Bernina Fan Club Archives

September 1995 95

Sunday, September 24 - Saturday. September 30


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Date: 24 Sep 95 12:24:21 EDT
Subject: 930 / Needle down position

Sorry, there was no name.  In order to see if you have needle down position. tap
the heel end of you foot pedal.  If you tap the toe end you get a complete
cycle.  If you do have the needle up/needle down, the heel end tapped will give
you half cycle.

Sue
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Date: 24 Sep 95 12:24:25 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/24/95

$3399 is high for a 1530.  I paid $2499 for my 1630 less than 1 year ago. I
would check around, unless the dealer is exceptional.  Then she would be worth
the extra.

Sue
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Date: 24 Sep 95 12:24:23 EDT
Subject: Bernina Deco 500

Carol

How far are you from Fredericksburg?  Before you lay out the cash for the Deco,
go check out the POEM embroidery machine.  It hooks to your computer, uses a
regular scanner and you can use clip art from a graphics program.  There's a
really good dealer in Fredericksburg called "The Knit Pearl"  that carries them.
I love mine.  I"ve seen the others, and wouldn't trade in a heartbeat.Phone
1-703-371-6991

Sue
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 11:43:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina club survey

> Bernina Club Survey

> Name of dealership (optional): Bob's Bernina

> Location (town/city, state): Lawrence,KS

> Number of meetings each year: 10

> Cost per year: $20

> Location of meeting (e.g. in store, at local church or high school, in
>   someone's home): in store

> Approximate number of people at a club meeting: 5-10 (there is an
afternoon and an evening group)

> Length of club meeting (hours): 2

> Typical activities at club meeting (e.g. guest speaker, demo, 
>   hands-on sewing): demo + coffee &cookies

> Typical topics of club meetings (e.g. instruction in use of machine
>   and accessories,  fashion sewing techniques, quilting techniques,
>   home decorating projects, fabric embellishment, ...): every
other meeting concentrates on clothing construction,
with an emphasis on dressmaking and embellishment (embroidery,
sashiko) - no tailoring. The other meetings concentrate
on quilting. The use of different feet is shown and discussed.

> Describe sales promotions at club meetings: New products are
shown, but not pushed.

> Describe any additional benefits to Bernina Club members (e.g. free
>   lessons, discounts on purchases outside of meetings, etc.)?  10%
discount on any purchases in the store. Lessons are free with
machine purchase.

> Is your Bernina club well-organized with adequate facilities? The
meetings are held in the store in the same area where the demo
machines are. When a customer comes in, he/she has to navigate
along the walls. Lawrence is a small town, so that this is not too
much of a problem.


> Do the programs at meetings match your needs and interests? I
signed up for the club when I bought my machine (1030 three years
ago) and attended the meetings for one year. The meetings were 
an opportunity to learn about new feet and some techniques. I mostly 
sew clothes, home dec under duress, and lost interest in the 
meetings devoted to quilting, applique and embroidery. This only 
reflects my interests - the meetings were a great way to learn 
about many applications.

> How do you feel about the charges (if any) for joining (would be
>   willing to pay more, just right, too high)? The club fee was
reasonable.

> Comments: The meetings were exclusively demos, not hands on
lessons. The topics reflected the instructors' interests and skills.
Club members' participation was minimal, limited to questions
pertaining to the current topic. "Show and tell" was infrequent,
limited to "show" and praise, without much exchange of ideas between
the participants.
Lest this be construed as a scathing criticism of my local Bernina
club, I have to say that I am very satisfied with my dealer. He is
very helpful, the introductory lessons were an excellent expansion
of the manual, he does maintenance and repairs overnight, carries
Mettler thread in five weights, also DMC and Madeira embroidery
thread (good quality thread is behind my frequent visits to the 
store).
My comments are simply a reflection of diverging interests, and I am
sure that seamsters with other priorities find the meetings
stimulating.
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 12:55:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Deco Embroidery Cards

  Am I reading theis corectly??  If I buy a brother embroidery card it will
fit and work properly with a Deco or singer???  That sounds amazing to me!

Puzzled

Patty S
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 95 17:40:00 UTC
Subject: Re: DECO 500 Decision

I just found the number for George in Las Vegas. He's not a Bernina dealer,
but he has great prices on the cards for the Deco 500. Can't remember the
name of his shop, but just ask for George. He's always answered when I've
called so far.
 
        George
        1-702-368-0134
 
His prices for the cards are under $70, and if you order several he'll give
you a deal. He's kinda funny. He has an east coast accent and fits my
stereotype of the ones you see on tv all the time... "Have I got a deal for
you!". :)
 
                                Petchy
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 95 17:40:00 UTC
Subject: Re: DECO 500 Decision

Carol,
 I say go for it! But I am the impulsive shopper of all time, so best advised
to get a second opinion. :)
 
I did post about the cards and built-in designs (I think).
 
It does go through quite a bit of thread (more on the scanned designs). I
bought a big special thread collection of Sulky from Nancy's Notions, and
she's having a 25% off sale through the end of October. So if you can, you
should stock up on it. Sounds as if you, like me, have no real local sources
for these things. So I do tend to stock up.
 
It's my impression that you can sew on just about anything with it. From
lingerie to denim. I think I commented on stabilizers in my other post, too.
Towels apparently require something called Solvy to hold the nap down while
you embroider. I haven't found any yet, so can't comment on that. I have
some fingertip towels to do for a gift whenever I run across it. Nancy's
doesn't have it, but I have the number to get a Clotilde's catalog. I think
she has it.
 
Is it slow? Some designs do up in a few minutes, some take a long time. It's
covering every square inch of fabric, so I don't think you should expect it
to be really fast. Again, the scanned designs are slower because it seems to
use more thread.
 
The scanned designs are saved on little cards like the ones with the designs
on them. I understand the difference is that the "empty" ones have some kind
of processor in them. One comes with the machine, and extras are expensive.
I've just been deleting things when I don't want them anymore and using the
one over and over. They seem to hold a lot.
 
Good luck! I know you'll enjoy it.
 
                                Petchy
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 14:45:44 -0400
Subject: Re: DECO 500 &Mr. Zimmerman

Dear Petche,
Thanks for your input...9 mm is quite a wide line!  Most of the designs I
would want to scan would be horses and there probably would not be cards that
I want.  How do you save scanned designs?  Does the scanner have a memory or
do you have to buy blank cards?  Expecting it to save to computer disks is
probably to logical.  
My dealer is a mere 2 hours away so if I do buy it I will negotiate a price
on the phone...he does that...and make an appointment to go, have my lessons
and bring the machine home.  I will take a design and some fabric and stress
test the heck out of it.  I
want to be able to do cambray shirts....got a great source for OSHKOSH work
shirts for $14. ...towels. t shirts and sweats.  
I know I can get a brother cheaper  from the same dealer.  Do you think the
Bernina built in designs are worth the extra price?
I'm sure I'll think of some more questions later.  Can't wait till the store
opens tomorrow
Carol
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 15:56:44 -0400
Subject: Quilting Stitch

I had posted to the group the instructions for the quilting stitch that I had
been given quite some time ago, but had not really tried.  Now that I have
tried them, I would like to say that I have a new formula for you to try.  I
have a 1630 but this should work on any machine that has the feather stitch
and balance buttons.

Use the monofilament in the needle and silk-finish cotton to match the back
of your quilt.  Needle tension should be up to 9 and use the Walking Foot.
 Stitch length will be 4 and stitch width is 0.  The balance button is on +2.
 (I also tried it with +4 and I like those results; also tried it with minus
instead of plus balance and it looked good, too)  I think you just need to
play around with the tension and balance until you get the look you want for
the machine you are using.  

Give this a try and post your results to the group.  I think I'm going to try
using this stitch on a small wall-hanging and see what a finished product
looks like.  

Judy
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 17:24:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Why such big price differences?

I gather from all the posts in response to mine about the price of $3399 on
the 1530 that that is just the full list price of the machine.  The dealer I
went to did say that they would be having a pre-Christmas sale in November,
so it might be worth waiting till then.  I really would like to own this
machine, but not at that price.  There is one other Bernina dealer in my
area, but 20 as opposed to 2 miles away, so I might try there.  

I really don't want to go this route, but has anyone had a good experience
mail-ordering this sewing machine?  If so, from whom and at what price?  I
wouldn't mail order to save a couple of hundred dollars, but I might to save
fifteen hundred!
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Subject: Quilting Stitch on the 1630
Date: 24 Sep 1995 17:27:46 GMT

The neat quilting stitch described recently works on the 1630 also. The
equivalent feather stitch is D2/7 instead of G 2/7.

Incidentally, the  Bernina Advanced Guide Workbook, Supplement II, has a
conversion chart of the stitches on the 1630 with the stitches on the 1530
and the 1230 machines.
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Subject: Replacement of Teflon-Coated Feet
Date: 24 Sep 1995 17:30:33 GMT

If you have the 57C Teflon coated foot or the 56 Teflon coated foot, both
with the green Teflon, you may have them replaced free of charge at your
Bernina dealer if the coating has worn away. The 56 is an open toe embroidery
foot; the 57C is the same as the 1C for the 1630, except it is Teflon-coated.
For some reason Bernina used a green Teflon which is not holding up very
well. My dealer said to keep bringing them in for replacement until Bernina
has a better Teflon coating.
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 16:23:48 -0600
Subject: Re: Dirt on Bernina 930

>This is interesting. I have never heard of a 930 that does not have the needle
>down function.

Ginny - when I first read about the 930 needle down function, I too thought
that perhaps mine was defective, or at least maybe it could be 'added'
somehow, but I soon learned differently. By now you have read a couple of
posts about the same thing - the earlier 930s do not have this function
that the later ones do - and I think someone said that the later ones
are called a 930S, or something along that line.
But I still love my 930, and am saving up for a serger rather than a
Bernina upgrade!

Betty S
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 95 23:05:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Help! I'm afraid of my new

Angel,
 
You said, we really should be afraid of her new machine?   LOL
 
Patches
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 19:53:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina DECO Cards

I usually buy my cards from Bernia dealer.  I stopped at a different store
that also sells Brother machines.  He had a large supply of cards.  More then
I can get from my Bernina dealer.  She usually only has one of each and has
to order them.  Also Bernina only has a few.  Brother has 16 at last count.
 I also got a Brother scanner.  $879.98 as compared to $1200 plus for the
Bernina.  I can't see the difference.  The cards work just great and look to
be from the same co.
KitRN
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 01:47:00 UTC
Subject: Bobbin Noise Continued

MB,
 It was my understanding that the machines have a 1 year warranty, and some
on here have mentioned getting two years. But I did think the first year
included everything except abuse, naturally. Do you have the paperwork you
got with your machine? Sounds like it's a good time to read it over. :)
 
                                Petchy
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Subject: Re: Looking for Boston Commons pattern
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 95 20:54:16 PDT

Thanks to everyone who responded to my Boston Commons question.

Today I was in Mt. View for a Fimo class learning to make boxes and bowls and 
this class just happened to be at my very favorite quilt shop, The Quilting 
Bee!!  

They have more quilt books than any other store I know of and sure enough,
right there on the shelf was a whole book entitled "Boston Commons", yep, it
was spelled with an "s" at the end as well.

The quilt on the cover had one row of square blocks, on point, right down the
middle, maybe eight of them or so.  Then surrounding this row was another 
color, this continues for six more rounds.  All the rounds are on point.  Then
there is a sold area about seven rounds wide.  Then the on point rounds begin
again for as many different rounds as required.  Hence a quilt with an oblong
design made to fit the bed perfectly clear to the floor.  I hope this helped
Valerie.


-- 
Jean P
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Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/21/95

Glad you caught the message, Jacque.  Hope that Patches and Sue Hager get it,
too.  The bad news is that Clotilde has it on back order!  I called and placed
an order and found that out-I guess we were not the only ones wanting a larger
binding foot!!  Pat
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 01:01:28 -0400
Subject: Re: What to Do

Peggy says, 

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Well of course you will have to decide if you want to keep your 830, but I
think your dealer is offering you a fair trade-in price at $350. I don't
think you would be able to sell it privately for much more. (And maybe less,
depending on interest in your area.) It seems to me that getting the 1630 for
$2500 with the  trade-in is a good deal; it's about the best price I've heard
of! I say go for it........... and let us know when you get your new machine!
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 00:57:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book

There have been a couple messages asking if there is a comparable "Step By
Step" book for the Bernina 1260 and 1530. Sorry, there isn't. Most of the
information from the book is applicable to these machines; however for ideas
about your particular model, I would see if your dealer carries a workbook
for it. The workbook will go beyond the manual that comes with your machine.
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 05:15:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Deco 500 &mr. Zimmerman

Carol,
 
There is a card that has animals. I'm not sure what animals because I didn't
have a need for that card.
 
The scanner is a hand scanner. You put the drawing in a depression in the
lid of the scanner (it separates from the scanner) and draw the scanner
across it with your hand. The scanner then saves the image to the card,
which you put into a slot in the side of the scanner. Once the design is
finished, you take the card to your Deco. The scanner does not interface to
the Deco, it is totally stand-alone. It would be nice to have it interfaced
to a PC, wouldn't it? I have an HP ScanJet color scanner and could make much
better scans with that if it did.
 
I don't know what the price difference between the Brother and Bernina is,
so can't answer your question about whether the built in designs are worth
the extra. Since the cards can be bought for under $70, I'd say that if the
difference is more than $70, it's not worth it. From what I understand, the
Brother and the Deco 500 are the same or very similar machines. It's just
that I have this "thing" for Berninas. :)
 
Good luck, and keep us posted! I'm very excited for you.
 
                                Petchy
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 07:47:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Help! I'm afraid of my new 1090 :-0

Yes, you can sew over pins but I definitely do not recommend the practice on
any sewing machine. If you nick a pin, you damage your needle which results
in poor stitches or damaged fabric. If you hit a pin, you break your needle
which can result in severe damage both to the bobbin area of the machine as
well as damage to the internal workings in the head. REAL BAD IDEA. You also
run the risk of hitting yourself in the eye with part of the broken needle.
All it takes is some retraining to remove pins before you reach them. 

Yes, you can use a double needle in all sizes up to but not including 6.0 mm
on your 1530. That size can only be used on the 1630. Double needles are used
for pintucking, decorative embroidery work, hemming, attaching narrow ribbons
and braids, etc. Lots of fun to use but be careful about the width setting of
your zigzag stitch so that you don't hit the foot and break the needle.

Fantasy stitches are stitches which you create from the built-in stitches
plus various functions including balance, continuous reverse, mirror image,
pattern elongation, etc. You can have a lot of fun and create an unlimited
number of stitches in this manner.  Perhaps we all should share some fantasy
stitches which we know about although in my experience, different machines
can react differently.

I hope that this has helped to clarify some information for you.

Francyne
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Subject: Re: Bernina 930 - Needle Down
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 07:20:13 -0500


I have a 930 too and not all of them have needle down capability, only
the newer ones.  To get it to the down position you tap your heel on
the foot pedal.  This will cause it to take half a stitch and stay in
the down position.  When I worked for a Bernina dealer (in '96) the
repairman could re-wire the older 930's to get needle down but it was
an inexact thing and he didn't recommend doing it.

On another note, I love my 930 but would like to get a machine that
has alphabet capabilities.  Don't want or need a 1630, anybody got any
suggestions for alternatives? TIA.

Margaret
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:37:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Solvy

Dear Petchy,
Solvy is a water soluble plastic stabilizer.  Nancy does have it, pg 57 item
D  She just doesn't call it Solvy.  BTW freezer paper makes a good
stabilizer.
It is not quite 7 AM and I have to wait 3 more hours till I can call my
dealer!  AGONY!
As I might have mentioned I got my old job back and over the winter it is
very time consuming....last winter I did 66 hours a week.  I will see what
kind of a deal he is offering with the 6 months to pay option.  It would be
nice to have for Christmas, but over the winter I won't have much time to use
it.  
I'll let you know.
I also thought the designs would look good on polar fleece.
Carol
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 11:11:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Dirt on Bernina 930

According to a dealer I spoke with just this past weekend, the needle tap
with the presserfoot was an upgrade that came out after the 930 was
introduced.  This was just one of the little upgrades that was added to the
production of the machine after the 930 line was introduced but still
top-of-the-line.
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Subject: RE: Bernina Digest 9/22/95
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 11:25:00 CDT

I recently read a posting from someone regarding finding a lightweight machine
just to haul around in the trunk and take to classes.  There is a new Singer
Featherweight that weighs around 15 pounds and costs less that $200.  I saw it
in a Spiegel catalog. It's really sleek-looking compared to all the other
(older) featherweights I've seen.  Has about 14 different stitches.

I am thinking of buying a 1260.  Are there any good books or manuals for 
this model?

Thanks,

Dannie
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:31:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Deco 500

Thanks, I will.  
I was not too impressed with the deal I was offered on the DECO 500. $2409
for a demo.(including the scanner.)
The price I was quoted on the POEM is 1599 plus 499 for the computer program.
 I would have to buy a scanner or use my faxed in images. ALSO the dealer is
1/2 hour away, not two hours!  She is checking if there might be a special
running, otherwise I think I will wait to buy till after the first of the
year.  I am thinking of starting a sewing business and it would be to my
advantage to wait.
Carol
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:43:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book

May I also suggest to those of you looking for a Basic Bernina Book that you
take a look at the Advanced Bernina Guide Book and Supplements.  This is the
most up to date instruction book on feet and techniques.  Just my 2 cents
worth.
Sue 
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Subject: Table ffrom Staple's
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:30:53 -0400

>Went to Staples (office supply store) to pick up school supplies, and was
>lucky enough to hit the jackpot!  Found a computer table for only $39.  Like
>Petchy, it has the drop down keyboard area. 

I did the same thing, Micki.  I got the white one.  This table is great.
You have a lot of room for quilts behind it.  I also make house banners and
needed the room for the flag to go behind the machine so my satin stitch
wouldn't bunch up.  I highly recommend this table to anyone.
Margaret G
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Subject: Walking Foot
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 11:03:00 PDT

HELP!! I bought the walking foot at the same time I bought my 1260 in June. 
  Love the 1260.  But the walking foot is another matter.  The first time I 
tried it to machine quilt a queen sized quilt with regular weight batting. 
 Every third stitch the walking foot would get caught in the quilt (under 
and at the back of the foot).   I had to lift the foot with my knee lifter 
after every second stitch.  Thank heaven for that knee lifter.  I thought 
maybe my quilt was too thick for the foot , but that's why I bought the 
foot.

Last night I was making one of those jazz jacket-type vests with NO batting 
and wanted to use the walking foot just to baste (with the basting stitch) 
the top part to the foundation piece.  It did the same thing, only this time 
it gathered the bottom piece of material and didn't baste, but made little 
stitches.  I love my new machine and have had no problems with it except for 
this foot. I think it's on right,  with the little lever on the right hooked 
around  the bar that goes up and down.

1) does anyone else have this problem?
2) Can you use the walking foot to baste?
3) Do I have to lower the feed dogs? (I didn't think I should)

I thought I should ask you all first, since this group is so knowledgeable 
about using the Bernina, and then call my dealer, who's kind of far away, 
and if I'm doing something dumb I don't want to waste her time or mine.
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Subject: Re[2]: Help! I'm afraid of my new 1090 :-0

     Francyne, I think it would be a great idea to share Fantasy 
     stitches.  Even tho they may react a little differently on 
     different machines, it would be a good starting point for us 
     "slower folk" to start and the stitches could be adjusted or 
     changed as we desire.  We always welcome new ideas and 
     stimulation.  Perhaps we can have our very own Bernina Club 
     lessons right here!
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Subject: Re: Walking Foot  
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 17:39:19 -0400

No, you shouldn't drop the feed dogs.  The whole idea is that the
walking foot advances the material on top at the same rate as the feed
dogs advance the bottom layer.

It sounds like the walking foot is resting on top of the fabric, but
instead of advancing the top layer, the feeder is stationary and is
being pressed down hard onto the surface of your quilt.  That would
explain the short stitches on top while the bottom was being scrunched
up.  It would also explain the foot getting caught.

I have a walking foot (the one for the 1630) and also had problems the
first time I used it.  It didn't get caught on anything, but the
stitches were really short unless I pulled the quilt along the table
towards the needle.  The quilt had regular weight batting, was only
crib-sized, and yes, I had rolled up the parts I wasn't sewing on.
Then, at a Bernina Club meeting, I learned that you have to be really
careful to attach the foot properly.  There's a little arm with a slot
at the end near the top of the foot.  The slot fits around the little
horizontal bar that sticks out to the right at the end of the needle
shaft.  (The bar has the screw that holds the needle in place at its
end.)  I bet I had the foot on wrong when I first used it, because it
is working so much better now.  

From your description it sounds like you have the walking foot on
right, but perhaps you should double check?  The bar and slot transmit
the motion of the shaft to the fabric advancing mechanism inside the
walking foot.  If the arm on the walking foot was put on so it was
below the bar instead of level with it (with the bar in the slot), you
might get just the symptoms you describe.

Debbie D
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 21:18:00 UTC
Subject: Bobbin Noise Continued

Sue,
 
I really would like this to go to her privately.  Is it possible you can
send it that way, I couldn't find her e-mail address, and recognizing the
fact that there are dealers on this board, I would rather have this sent
this way, If it isn't able to go this way, Please delete it.  Thanks,
 
Patches
 
Mb,
 
I would definitely take it back to the dealer you bought it from.  If he
still chooses to ignore your requests to have it fixed after having been to
someone else, then ask for you money back and you will purchase a machine
elsewhere, so that you can have better service.  It seems to me that you
service man, just wants to hold off until your repairs get so awful that he
has to send it to bernina.
 
If he still persists that nothing is wrong, then sue him, its my guess that
that little piece of paper will show you are serious.  It only takes the
threat of having his store being sued for not giving good service because it
would get around by word of mouth, and that is enough for any business to
think about the kind of service you are getting.
 
Patches
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 18:56:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book
> take a look at the Advanced Bernina Guide Book and Supplements.  This is
the
> most up to date instruction book on feet and techniques.  Just my 2 cents

Sue: Make that 4 cents! I heartily agree about the Guide book &supps. I
have em, use em to pieces, and love em! 

Robin 
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 00:22:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina DECO cards

Kit,
 I'm having a ball with those cards.
 
We have a woman in our office who is a caregiver at an AIDS hospice here in
Santa Fe. We have a very large gay population here, and a high incidence of
AIDS. It's important that these people not feel ostracized in their fight
for life, and she does a wonderful job of comforting and caring for them
totally on her own time.
 
The reason I'm telling about her is that today we had an "incident." One of
the agents has been steadily declining mentally, but physically he isn't too
bad yet. Today he was very confused and obviously suffering from some sort
of dementia. We tried to comfort him and gave him lots of hugs, but he just
wouldn't snap out of it. Clare took him to the hospital for evaluation.
Tests and scans have confirmed that it is a psychiatric problem and he has
been admitted for treatment. This follows months and months of her taking
care of another of the agents who is in the final stages of AIDS, and can no
longer work.
 
The others at the office asked if I could make up a little badge for Clare
with a heart outline and a red cross in the middle. So that's what I'll do
tonight, and tomorrow we'll pin it on her. She's fun to work with. She's a
very hyper Type-A with a great personality and sense of humor. She's a very
successful agent, but works very hard to stay that way. Even with her
workload she has time for those in need.
 
Sorry to be so off topic, but when something really touches me it's hard for
me not to share. :)
 
                                Petchy
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 00:23:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Help! I'm afraid of my new

Francyne,
 I would love to hear about the fantasy stitches. This is a new concept for
me. I'm not the adventurous type, unfortunately, so thrive off of other
people's originality.
 
                                Petchy
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Date:          Mon, 25 Sep 1995 20:36:14 +0000
Subject:       help

I want to help my mother find something
for her 1530 Bernina. She told me that she needs
a plastic surround for the base. When she told 
me this, in the some breath, she said that Harriet
Hargrave and Georgia Bonesteel have them on their
machines so someone out there is making
them. Now, she did get a blank from her dealer but
 my dad broke it, that is a whole story in itself, so that
is not an option. "What to do??"

I want to make this sort so if you can help,
or know some one that can, write me.

THANK YOU!
Mike :-)
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 00:23:00 UTC
Subject: Solvey

Carol,
 Thanks for the info on Nancy's version of Solvey. I finally found my catalog
yesterday. Was panicked when it turned up missing a week ago. :)
 
I've seen people on GEnie talking about embroidery on polar fleece, but
couldn't recite it back to you. I'll be they'd look great on there, though.
 
The credit is probably from the Bernina card. It's a great promotion that
they offer. It just takes discipline to put that money away so you can pay
off the bill when the term is up.
 
                                Petchy
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Subject: Re: Quilting Stitch
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 95 20:15:35 PDT

Thanks Judy for re-posting about this stitch.  I'll be trying it as soon
as my company is gone.  :0}

I have another question regarding this.  I am about to begin quilting my
tumbling block pullover fabric to the backing fabric.  They call for using
monofilament in top and cotton in the bottom also. 

Do you folks really recommend monofilament on top for clothing that will be
washed over and over, hopefully???  If the shelf life of this thread is
only a couple of years, as I have read, who knows how old it is when you buy 
it and how can it with stand all that washing over time.  This top took hours
just to prepare the fabric, not to mention the rest of the project.

Thanks for any comments, 

-- 
Jean P
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 01:44:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/24/95

I have a Bernina 930 that was one of the first that came out and does NOT
have a needle DOWN switch, button, bell, or foot-what-ever.  I was really
pleased to get a machine that would always stop with the needle up as before
it was just luck if it stopped anywhere you wanted it to.  I found out after
my machine had served me well for a good while that the needle down tap-
plate was available on the first machines.  BUT there was no way to upgrade
my machine according to my dealer who has always given me good service on
this machine.  I love it even if it does NOT stop with the needle down as I
would like it to do in machine embroidery and quilting.  And this is not a
statement invitation to the lady in New Mexico (the dealer) who apparently
thinks that she or another dealer have a lock on facts about the Berninas.
I have a 1230 still in the box waiting until I get ready to give it the time
needed to learn how to use it and partly because I love my 930!
 
Nikki
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Subject: Re: Deco 500 &mr. Zimmerman
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 95 20:33:57 PDT

Hi Carol;

Don't mean to stick my nose into your business but, Friday I was at my
Sew &Vac dealer with an out of town friend who's interested in a Bernina
1530 and a serger.  So we also got the demo for the Deco machines, both
Brothers and Bernina.  We were told that Bernina is far superior as it will
turn the hoop any direction and the Brothers won't.  There were a few other
things also which I don't remember.  Also the newest New Home combo machine, 
which they also sell is full of bugs.  Hope this helps.

-- 
Jean P
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:59:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/23/95

If you are thinking of privately selling your Bernina or Serger, I would like
to suggest that you post it at your local quilting store.  Then you won't
have just anyone coming in off the street.  You will probably get someone who
sews and knows what they are looking for.  I bought my 1090 used this way in
August.  Since we were both quilters, we immediately started talking patterns
and doing a show and tell.  We found out that we know some quilters in
common, even though we live in different cities.  The store that we went
through knew both of us.  I had no qualms about purchasing this machine from
her.
Another idea would be to contact your local quilt guild and ask them to list
it in their newsletter, or mention it for sale at their next meeting.
Quilters tend to be very nice,  honest people -- with a bad fabric addiction
   : )
Donna
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 02:27:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Help! I'm afraid of my new

Francine,
 
Great idea, I have quite a few designs from my 1230 that I have designed.
Lets have a share athon.
 
Patches
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:49:08 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: 930 Needle Down Position

Barbara - You probably don't have a 930 you may have what I have and it 
is a 931 and it does not have needle down.

Claudia
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Subject: Re: Bernina Club??
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 21:49:13 PDT

Hi Edith;

My best friend and old sewing buddie is here in town from Cottage Grove
Oregon and she reminded me that Liz and Glen are living in Dallas Oregon.  
For the life of me I could not remember it when I wanted to answer you. :0}

-- 
Jean P
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Date:          Tue, 26 Sep 1995 07:50:35 EST5DST
Subject:       Re: Walking Foot

Jamie, you need to have your walking foot modified by Harriet 
Hargrave's repairman. He files down the middle plastic piece under 
the foot, which is catching on your fabric. He'll also remove the bar 
across the front of the foot so you can see where you're going. He 
charges $12 for this and it's worth it. Unfortunately I don't have 
the address with me here at work, but I'm sure someone else will give 
it to you.
Linda
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:12:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: What to do

This is about the decision to trade in the 830 for a higher priced 
machine with more doodads.  I feel you should keep the 830 and get the 
other new machine.  Then wait for perhaps a 930 if you want the needle 
down feature. I say this because my 830 is a workhorse and has been since 
it was purchased new in 1975.  If you need a lot of embroidery stitches 
perhaps you need the newer model.  The only thing I wish I could master 
on the 830 is stitches for stretchable knit fabrics and wispy fabrics.  
If someone could teach me how to work with those very well with the 830 I 
don't think I will ever need to upgrade.

Just my humble .02.

Joyce 
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:24:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Babylock serger

Lisa,

I have the Bernina 2000DE serger.  It is the first serger I have ever owned.
It has never let me down.  I love the self adjusting tension.  I have a friend
who has a singer 5 cone serger and she hates it.  She always has to fiddle
with the tension.  That's something I don't have to do.

According to my owner's manual, my 1530 is Swiss made.  I question your
dealers information, as well as his prices.

Ida T
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:06:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Walking Foot

Dear Jamie:  Your walking foot appears to be working "correctly."  It is 
a design flaw which Bernina and others ought to correct.  The walking 
foot is a real help in machine quilting, but needs to be modified.  A few 
dealers throughout the country do this for a nominal fee. Please email if 
you want the address I have (no affiliation).  The modification, which I 
am about to request also, will shave off that little plastic square 
underneath and open up the metal area in front of the needle.  Those who 
have had this done say it makes a huge difference.  If you are handy, 
you can do the plastic modification yourself, but I don't want to try for 
fear I would ruin the foot.  I have been using my walking foot for 
applying sashing to blocks and it is driving me c r a z y with its stalls.
My dealer doesn't know what I'm talking about so it's the users who need 
to complain to Bernina.  As to the other parts of your question--don't 
lower your feed dogs; and I don't know about the basting stitch with the 
walking foot since my old machine doesn't have that capability.
    Myra
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:57:05 -0400
Subject: Jan Saunders book

     I just ordered A Step by Step Guide to your Bernina by Jan Saunders.  I
ordered it from the publisher, Chilton, and mentioned that I had heard that
it was out of print but was informed that the book is not out of print.  They
have plenty of copies (around 300).  Chilton's phone number is (610)964-4000
and the price is $19.95 plus $2.50 for shipping (as previously posted here).
 I hope the person who took Jean's order was mistaken and not the one who
took my order.  Anyway I probably wouldn't have ordered this soon if I hadn't
thought that the book would soon be unavailable.  I'm glad mine's on the way
now though.  I'm really looking forward to book that you all have so highly
recommended.  
     
Candy B
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 12:21:19 -0400
Subject: Re[2]: Help, I'm afraid of my 1090

I love the idea of an on-line Bernina Club.  And for the present, could you
remember us with the 830's.  The more I research, the more I think I will
keep my old workhorse.

******************************************************************************
Peggy Q
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 12:37:07 -0400
Subject: 1630

Hello, this note is to B. Mitchell, I tried to e-mail privately but my
message got bounced.  I would be interested in learning what it was about
the 1630 you hated so much.  I've not heard any negatives and I would like
to hear other views before I invest in such an expensive upgrade.  Thanks.

******************************************************************************
Peggy Q
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:59:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Club Survey

After attending the first meeting of the year (Sept.-May) of my Bernina club
today, I thought I'd writie to add my info. The club meets once a month for
two hours in the back of the store. It cost $20 a year and there are about 20
people at each meeting. The sessions are only demo (since there's no space
for machines), but there is a video camera/tv setup so you can easily see
what is being demonstrated. We are always given several printed sheets
covering the info that will be presented. As to the subject matter, I'd have
to say it seems to cover all aspects of sewing. Today we learned about sewing
on snaps and fasteners and also about doing cross stitch by machine. I think
the teacher is excellent, the class is well organized, and well presented. We
have a drawing for a door prize at each meeting, different coupons for each
month, and a 15% discount on purchases. The dealer is Sinnamon/Knights in
Colonie, New York.Sue M.
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 19:23:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Deco

I bought some white linen and wrapped the edges on the surger (Bernina) with
White high loft thread then proceded to embroidery designs from the #9 card
that I got at the Brother dealer.  they are just beautiful.  I plan to use
them (napkins) in the dining room.  I am using pastels in the flower designs.
 Unbeliebable.  I am having so much fun.  i did some baby shirts with small
animals for my new grandbaby.  Also I put names on the grandkids backpacks
for school.  they were thrilled.  Any one have any other ideas?
Kit
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:52:36 -0700
Subject: ??'s:   dress forms, pressers

you had recommendations based on your own experiences.  I have seen the 
Dritz "My Double" dress forms and it looks like they are easily 
adjustable.  I'm not quite sure how the molded forms work, what happens 
when you lose or gain inches?

    i am also considering the purchase of a presser iron and would love 
to hear the pros and cons of the various models like the Singer Magic 
Steam Press and of the choice between pressers and other iron options 
for sewers.
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 04:15:00 UTC
Subject: Re: quilt Stitch

Jean,
 
I saw your same post today on the wearables list?  hehehe
 
Anyway, yes, using monofilament thread, will not hurt your wearable.  I have
used it for several years and have never once had a problem with it
especially with mutiple washings.
 
I know Harriet uses this in her quilts, and she washes every single one of
them in the washer. I don't think she has had any problems either.
 
hope this helps,
 
Patches
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:57:50 -0700
Subject: BOA coming on-line ?

Our District Manager was here in Albuquerque this week.  We showed her all of
the communication from the BFC on internet and from the other on-line
services, compuserve and AOL. We urged her to support BOA getting on-line.  We
also sent the communications to the President of BOA and strongly suggested
that BOA come on line. We believe it will happen. When it will happen and how
they will become involved will be up to BOA. The rapid growth of on-line
participation got ahead of the planning process that was being discussed about
getting on line.
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 08:06 CST
Subject: Block Base

     Oh Lynn, I sympathize with you.  My copy of Block Base 
     arrived last night and I leave Saturday a.m. for a week of 
     vacation.  I did get it loaded and took a little peek, but 
     have too much to do to play with it now.
     
     However, my week's vacation is a quilting workshop, so I 
     hope to have learned new skills (from Harriet) and can come 
     home and combine those with new ideas from Block Base and be 
     really inspired!  Wow, this much inspiration may kill me!  
     But what a way to go!
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:32:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fantasy stitches and machine interface

The very term makes me smile (with a bit of irony...).  While I have had
fun on my 1090 and 1230 'tweaking' the stitches, the expression 'fantasy
stitches' was obviously coined in the days when machine embroidery was
embryonic.  Compared to a 1630's ability, the wiry embroidery of my 1230
(even with much tweaking) pales.  I don't mind a bit btw...

This is no news, but Jackie Dodson's 'Know your Bernina' is the reference
for fantasy stitches.  It uses the 1130 stitch set. I just wrote my 1090
stitch number equivalents (and then my 1230's) in the book next to the
originals.  Most of the tweaked stitches are not something I'd use on real
projects but then some come out really interesting.  Some very nice
fagotting stitches for instance.

What I would like to see in a Bernina is a screen (a la 1530) that shows
you the stitch as it is being modified.  Bernina is definitely behind the
cutting edge there.  Husqvarna and Pfaff already show you stitches as
modified on their displays.  There is nothing 'intuitive' about using
Mirror Image/+35/Permanent reverse on a stitch to make it come out
completely differently :)  It takes some fooling around to start getting a
feel for the process and then, many stitches just disintegrate as you
tweak them. Just a thought.

I guess no book will cover all the possible stitches.  The rest is really
play!  Spray starch and muslin-on-sale, here we go!

Sylvain
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:41:13 -0400
Subject: New 1260 owner

Hi everyone,

I'm a proud new owner of a 1260 - boy am I excited! Now if only
I had the time to play with it more. I'm interested in doing
machine quilting with it and I've been reading all the pointers
that people have been giving on this mailing list. Havent tried it
yet, and maybe I should get a copy of Harriet Hargrave's book before 
I ask people questions! 

Well, just thought I'd share my excitement!

Preethi
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:17:52 -0400
Subject: Walking Foot

Since the walking foot is a current topic, I am sending this again since I
didn't receive an answer from my original post.  It does NOT hava a "glass
eye"...do any of them?  Did I get a "fast one pulled on me", or is this the
only one available?

I have walking foot #006 327 5000.  Is this the one that is preferred for
the 1630 or is it the original?  I only tried it once......just seemed to
get in my way.... awkward, cumbersome, etc.  I was used to the attached
Pfaff walking foot which is hardly noticable.  I admit I haven't really
given the Bernina foot a fair chance.  Are there folks that put it on,
leave it on, and get used to it when doing all straight line stitching?

Liz
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 16:57 CST
Subject: Re: BOA Coming On-line?

     Thanks for your assistance in getting BOA on-line.  I hope 
     this will be a fruitful and positive experience which will 
     be beneficial to the consumers, to the dealers, and to 
     Bernina.  It's such a wonderful product - we all love them 
     or we wouldn't be here and be so vocal!
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 00:02:00 UTC
Subject: Jan Sander's book

I'm wondering if Jan Saunder's book would be helpful to me with my 1530?
I've wanted some kind of guide, but was led to believe by friends that the
Bernina advanced guide (not sure of the official name) doesn't help much
with the 1530.
 
                                Petchy
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 00:03:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Quilting Stitch

Speaking of Harriet, where is she? I haven't seen her on here in ages.
 
Patches,
 Do you mean that she uses the monofilament thread to do the stitches that go
all the way through the layers of the quilt? As someone just starting to
learn quilting, pardon me if I have the terminology all mess up. :)
 
                                Petchy
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 00:02:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Deco

Kit,
 One idea I thought I might try on the Deco would use the large floral card.
There is a design of grapes and grape leaves on it. I want to get a nice
crisp piece of white linen and embroider those grapes on it in white thread
(haven't decided which one yet). It would be a wrap for a wine bottle. You
know, when it comes out of the ice bucket all wet? I thought it would be
nice to present it already wrapped around a bottle of wine. I like white on
white. :)
 
                                Petchy
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:41:52 -0400
Subject: machine for a 5 yr old?

Hi all,

My 5 (almost) yr old son wants to learn to sew.  DH has no problem w/ this
his dad was a taylor.  He also wants his own machine.

I have mixed feelings - I will teach him.  In fact I bought one of the fall
pattern panels to make a scarecrow w/ him for his class teacher in Oct/Nov.
 But is he old enough to realize that a sewing machine is NOT a toy even if
its his.

If I do get him one what to get.  Singer makes a "toy" lockstich machine that
is battery operated w/ 2 speeds and a bobbin winder for about $45.  Would
that be best geared to his age level or should I spend the same elseware on a
real machine.  If so what??  Singer also make the "tiny taylor" for near the
same price.  What other machine manufactures make small machines that aren't
real expensive?  (I think because of his age the small size is important)

He is my oldest so I have not had to go through this before.  Would love
input from those of you who have survived this hurdle.

Pam
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 21:36:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina DECO cards

  Does the brother scanner work with the Deco?   What is the difference if
any between the machines?

Patty S
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 00:26:46 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/26/95

Hi everyone.  First of all I want to tell everyone how much I enjoy 
this newsletter.  It is really nice to see that so many people enjoy 
home sewing.  Around here I seem to be almost the only one who sews 
any more.  

I went to the Los Angeles County Fair last weekend and now I am the 
proud owner of two Bernina's.  I have a 1230 and just bought a 
Bernette.  I am sure I will get lots of use out of it, as I am an 
avid baby quilter and sew almost every day.

Does anyone out there have the formulas for some embroidery stitches 
they would like to share?  I work long hours and sometimes it is 
impossible to go to my local Bernina store for club meetings.

Thanks to everyone.

P.S.  Jack Handey, I really enjoy your "Deep Thoughts"  keep up the 
good work!
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 05:28:00 UTC
Subject: Re: BOA Coming On-Line?

Does anyone not realize that Bernina is all ready making an attempt, they do
have a web page underconstruction.
 
Petch,
 
The monofilament thread goes in the top or the needle, and you put cotton
thread, I think it is size 50 in the bobbin.
 
Patches
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 06:57:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Deco 500

Thanks, Sue!
I looked at the POEM and I do think I am going to buy it.  I like the multi
directional stitching, rather than the strictly parallel stitches of the
Bernina and the fine outlining.  
With the CSII software it is $1500 (special Promo) and I can buy a generic
 scanner, not a bernina scanner.  I need to get more details about using
thread on a spool rather than the bobbins that fit in the machine.
Linda is a half hour away, not two hours like my Bernina dealer.  
carol
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:46:22 -0400
Subject: Deco, dress forms, pressers

I am working right now on a wall hanging using my Brother embroidery machine.
It is an attic window design and has Christmas trees etc in the windows. I
have made several bibs for my new grandson which turned out great! Your idea
for the linen napkins is wonderful. What a wonderful Christmas present for
someone. Have you thought of making a tablecloth to match?
     I have a "Kwik Fit" dress form, have had it about five years. Very easy
to change sizes on it. I like it very much and highly recommend it. Bought it
at House of Fabrics.
     Also have a Singer Magic Steam press. It will iron with steam or dry.
Love it but the only problem is that it tends to run hot, ( I turn the dial a
bit lower) and when the days are really hot and humid I don't use it because
it puts out so much heat. Wonderful in the winter though! Fantastic when
using fusable web.
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:23:53 -0400
Subject: double needles

I would like to comment that I believe many of the machines have a button you
can push telling the machine you are using a double needle. This reduces the
swing of the needle so you don't break it. It can also be used to reduce the
size of a decorative stitch using a single needle.

Secondly I would like to tell you that I used to sew over pins with wild
abandon until the day my Pfaff hit a pin and parts flew out the side. It was
upsetting, although somewhat comical at the time. Luckily my dealer was able
to put it back together. That day I began thinking that my Pfaff seemed to be
breaking on an annual basis and that perhaps the next time something wierd
happened I was going to check into a new Bernina. I bought it from the dealer
who fixed my Pfaff, because he is a good mechanic. 

I am very careful not to sew over pins now, in order to avoid parts flying
out of the side of my 1630 which would be REALLY UPSETTING. And, I have
noticed, that pins in a seam will throw off the line of stitching. It seems
to create a drag or something on the foot.

Also, I think the newest version of Harriet Hargrave's quilting book
discusses the modifications to the walking foot. If you are thinking of
having this done, you should consider buying the book (or using your local
library) and bringing the explaination to your local dealer. 

And on another topic. Someone asked about alphabet capabilities: I have a
1630 and am unimpressed with the alphabets built into it. I don't own any
keys yet, but if and when an alphabet key becomes available I would be first
in line. On the otherhand, I really like the alphabet that my friend Mary
McManus is getting on her Deco 500. 

RobbiE
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:45:35 -0400
Subject: Favorite Quilt Shop

Mine is Bearly Stitchin', Pasadena, Calif.

Lots of classes, fabric, patterns and help when needed

Anne W
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Subject: kids sewing
Date: 28 Sep 95 13:47:53 -0700

I'm teaching my 7 year old to sew on my Elna (10 year old machine was
top of the line at the time).  I have a smaller Kenmore but the Elna
sews much better so I decided to teach her on a good machine that would
not frustrate her.  I would like to get a new machine for myself so that
I don't have to interrupt the project I'm doing on the machine and
rethread and put in a new needle so she can sew.  My daughter is small
but I don't think she needs a small machine.  Just my opinion.
  If you are interested I got a book and kit for teaching kids to sew
that I'm pleased with.  E-mail for the name.  Terri
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:16:45 -0400
Subject: RE: Jan Saunders Book

Hi all,

I too have ordered the book.  It is available from Clotilde for $16.00.  I
was worried I couldn't get it due to the discontinuation but they have it.

Clotilde # is 1 800 772 2891

No affiliation.

I can't wait to see it.  My guide class isn't until Oct 30 so....

Pam
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:16:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Double needles

ROFLOL Robbie,

Have you considered a quilt of your Pfaff spitting parts?? It would be quite
a hit I'll bet.

Thanks for the advice.

Pam
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Subject: Re: 930, and a question
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 21:50:23 +0100

> The other thing is a dumb question 
> but... what is a "serger"?  What does it do?  Why does 
> everyone want/have one?  

Alita, I think that we call them over-lockers here in the UK and I think
they are used mainly on knitted fabrics and jerseys. I have often wondered
if I am missing out on something really useful by not having one - so will
be interested in the replies you get! Isn't it strange home different names
evolve for the same thing (even in a common language) - fabrics vary
tremendously (muslin and calico, for instance) and I'd love to know what
freezer paper is called here. 

Serger and 1630 owners, I am about to sew some polar fleece tops for
Christmas - will the overlock stitches on the 1630 do as good a job and do I
need the special foot? (I'm a novice dressmaker).

By the way, Alita, I visited Norwich at the weekend - one of my favourite
cities! It's great to find someone else on the BFC so close to home.

Nita 
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:37:30 -0700
Subject: Machine for a 5 year old

I bought the Singer model (about ten years ago, so it was different, but the
price was the same).  We really couldn't get it to work properly, wind
bobbins or sew at all decently, not even close.  So, I don't recommend a
"toy" sewing machine.  Be sure to test out anything with real fabrics and
thread.  If you can get it to wind a bobbin and to sew with adequate
tension, it might be worth the price.  I returned my in great disgust.

My older sister learned how to sew when she was five from my mother, on a
real sewing machine.  She became extremely proficient at an early age.
Obviously, there are dangers that would need to be addressed if you went
this route.  You would need to always be with him for the first several
years, probably.

How about hand sewing?  That's what I taught my daughter instead of machine
stitching.  
~~Kathryn F
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:23:21 -0400
Subject: Swiss Bernina on www

Yesterday I discovered that Swiss Bernina has a WWW page. It is still very
much under construction but you might want to make a note to check it out in
the next few weeks. The address is: http://www.bernina.com/

You can choose which language you want: English, German or French.

Happy browsing - Francyne
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:23:36 -0400
Subject: Re: ?? Dress forms, pressers

The Bernette Pro Glide Plus iron is marvelous! More steam than any other iron
short of a gravity feed iron which costs about twice as much. The temperature
control is very accurate unlike other irons. Cotton really means cotton so be
careful at first where you dial the temperature until you get used to itl The
burst of steam is excellent. The sole plate does not scratch and glides
easily across the fabric. The anti-scaling device allows you to dissolve
mineral build-up and also to flush small particles out of the steam vents.
Check it out at your Bernina dealer.

I own a Bernette press which is no longer made so I can't comment on other
brands. I don't use it for ironing anything but flat pieces and for fusing
interfacings.

The Dritz My Double dress form works very well. Be sure to buy the correct
size now that they have several options available.

Francyne
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:35:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Machine for a 5 year old

Pam: My daughter started sewing lessons (no---not from me!) at age 5. They
used regular sized sewing machines with no problem...well, they had to put
the foot pedal on a box so they could reach it comfortably...also turned the
foot pedal around, so the high part was at their toe..easier for them to
control that way for some reason. This teacher had purchased 3 of the
SImplicity machines for the kids to use there, but they were very unhappy
with them..tension, bobbin thread balling up, etc. She ended up after a year
getting new machines, but I haven't paid attention what type. She sews at
home on either a Singer I have (about 15 years old, 17 stitches...not a TOL,
but not a dirt cheapie) or occasionally on my 1260. I let her use the 1260
for things I know the singer doesn't like (G), or for spcialty stitches/feet
I have that she needs. She is 8 now and sews fairly well...he clothing
construction abilities are better than mine at this point I'd say...I am
mainly a quilter.
Robin
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:16:48 -0400
Subject: I have no fear....

Hi all

Thanks for the support.  Especially Francyne - were you a dealer in another
life??

The fantasy stiches swap sounds fun - I'll let you know if I find any.  I
have discovered how much fun a machine that doesn't fight back can be.

Now I just have to break this habit of pulling the fabric left to compensate
for my (ex) machine pulling it right.....

Pam

Nine more sewing days till my trip to Ireland.  (Think I can conquer the
fabric addiction or should I bring an empty suitcase?)
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:31:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: "little" iron

I recently went to a quilting class where most of the women had small irons 
and homemade ironing pads.  I can make the ironing pad, but I have never 
seen the small irons for sale anywhere and at the time didn't think to ask 
them where they got them.  I haven't seen the irons in any of the catalogs, 
but maybe missed them.  Do any of you know what brands they might be and 
where I might find them.  I'm want to ask for one for my birthday and don't 
know what to ask for!!  Thanks in advance for your help.

Verna W
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 20:35:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Walking Foot

In a message dated 95-09-28 06:44:50 EDT, you write:

>Since the walking foot is a current topic, I am sending this again since I
>didn't receive an answer from my original post.  It does NOT hava a "glass
>eye"...do any of them?  Did I get a "fast one pulled on me", or is this the
>only one available?
>I have walking foot #006 327 5000.  Is this the one that is preferred for
>the 1630 or is it the original? 
===========================================================
Liz,
I just bought mine last week for the 1630, on my box the number is #003 208
7000 and I suspect mine is the new one, NOT the original one, but I'd also
like to know the difference between your number and mine.  I don't have a
glass eye on mine.  I haven't used mine yet.
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 00:27:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina DECO Cards

Patty,
 I can't answer your question about the Brother scanner working "with" the
Bernina Deco directly, but I wanted to mention that the scanner is a stand-
alone item. It' doesn't interface with the machine at all. You take the card
out of the scanner when you are through scanning and put it into the Deco.
So if the cards are compatible, that's all that counts. I think they are,
but will let someone who knows a lot more than I do confirm that.
 
                                Petchy
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 21:04:32 -0400
Subject: re: help (plastic "surround")

Mike--maybe what your mother is referring to is the lucite sewing table that
fits around the free-arm of the machine.  I don't have one, but I saw it
advertised in the Clotilde's catalog (I don't have the number, but it should
be in the 800 directory).

Pam
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 20:02:44 -0600
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/21/95

>If you'd like to help, please fill out the following survey.  I'll
>post the results in a week or so:

>Bernina Club Survey

>Name of dealership (optional):Bernina Sewing Center
>Location (town/city, state):  Englewood , Colorado
>Number of meetings each year:12
>Cost per year:  $25.00
>Location of meeting (e.g. in store, at local church or high school, in
>  someone's home)  Store
>Approximate number of people at a club meeting: 30 to 40 ?
>Length of club meeting (hours):  2 hours
>Typical activities at club meeting (e.g. guest speaker, demo, hands-on sewing):

A typical meeting is instruction on feet, maybe a technic to use on the machine
you may have wanted to try but no courage to do, annoucements of upcoming 
events ( even shows around the area!)  I especially like the x-mas ideas:>

>Typical topics of club meetings (e.g. instruction in use of machine
>  and accessories,  fashion sewing techniques, quilting techniques,
>  home decorating projects, fabric embellishment, ...)

Our dealers have so far done all of the above

>Describe sales promotions at club meetings: Yes and they don't tell when you 
are getting something special for x-mas either, they also have you fill out a 
wish list card!  That way DH gets just what you'd like:>

>Describe any additional benefits to Bernina Club members (e.g. free
>  lessons, discounts on purchases outside of meetings, etc.)? 

They always have room for guests 

>Is your Bernina club well-organized with adequate facilities?

It's organized and so popular that they have had to add an extra time
 period in the last few months

>Do the programs at meetings match your needs and interests?  

Sometimes it's something I've seen before, but with a twist, i find i sew a lot 
more after going to a bernina club, it's invigerating

>How do you feel about the charges (if any) for joining (would be
>  willing to pay more, just right, too high)?
>Comments:
I would say at my current income it's just right, but I worry that some people 
 feel they can afford an extra $.02 a month let alone a dollar or two . So maybe 
that keeps them away.  But it's worth every penny just for inspiration.
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:02:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina DECO cards

Does the scanner for the Brother embroidery machine work with the Bernina
Deco?
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:27:57 -0400
Subject: Re: BOA online

I have had no problems with my dealer or otherwise.  I feel very lucky after
hearing all the stories from across the country.

Just as an information tidbit - my mom was out machine shopping (she's an
Elna fan) and mentioned to the shop that her daugter was buying a Bernina.
 He deals both Elna and Bernina and something else I forget what.  He told
her that he would recomend a top of the line Elna over the Bernina because
the machines were comparable and Elna has great support.  This from a dealer.

I'm not reccomending we change loyalties here it is just interesting in light
of our recent discussions that even the dealers recognize the difference in
the company's response to customer concerns.

Pam
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:44:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Jan Sanders Book

Dear Petchy,
The Advanced Bernina Guide book is a wonderful resource for any Bernina
owner.  It show the feet and how to use them.  Names of stitches and pictures
of what they look like in the techniques are used to keep it usalble for all
machines.  I use mine for reference quite often and find it very helpful.
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:44:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Walking Foot

The 1630 walking foot is No. 003 208 70000.  There is no glass eye, however
the toes of the feet are larger.  This is now the only walking foot being
made and it is designed to work on all Bernina models.  I do not leave mine
on all of the time.  It is a little tricky to get on but once you figure out
the combination it is a breeze.  It is much easier to show than to explain
but here goes:  Hold foot behind machine with white part to the left and toes
to the right.  Tilt attachment forward placing post into hole.  At the same
time slip black fork over needle clamp and rotate toes to front.  Does that
make any sense?  Let me know how you do.
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:44:18 -0400
Subject: Re: ?? Dress forms, pressers

Also check out the Euro-Pro.  It has a steam generator and a vaccuum table.
 Quite unique!
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 21:11:06 -0700
Subject: Pam's trip to Ireland...

>Pam
>
>Nine more sewing days till my trip to Ireland.  (Think I can conquer the
>fabric addiction or should I bring an empty suitcase?)

Definitely bring and empty suitcase. No contest!

Lynn
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:44:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Walking Foot

I recently asked a Bernina Training consultant about this modification to the
walking foot.  It make suit the quilter but may not work as well for other
applications.  Also please be advised that any modification to the foot
invalidates the warranty.
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 06:09:00 UTC
Subject: various replies

Well, this is my first attempt to post a letter to the Bernina Fan Club. I
hope it works. I have enjoyed reading your posts the past couple of days,
and I must say it's been a treat to open my virtual mailbox everyday and
find so many Bernina messages.
 
Here are some replies:
 
Margaret: The 1260 or a used 1230 would give you
alphabets. The 1260 has more than the 1230.
 
Jamie:  About your misbehaving walking foot -- Maybe it's
defective. I got one with my new 1090 and haven't had any problems.
(Though I haven't used it on anything as large as a queen sized quilt yet.)
You do have to use a longer stitch than usual and you may have to adjust
the tension a bit. But it only took me a few minutes of experimenting to
get it the way I wanted.
 
Just a thought: I think I heard that there is a slightly different model of
the walking foot for the 1650 because the feed dogs are wider. Might you
have accidently been sold the wrong walking foot for your machine? Good
luck.
 
Preethi: Yes, Harriet Hargrave's book on machine quilting is invaluable! Do
get it. The information on various battings is especially helpful.
 
Petchy: The monofiliment nylon thread is used only on the top. Cotton
sewing thread is used in the bobbin. And yes, it is used for the actual
quilting, the stitches that go through all the layers of the quilt. (Of
course, you can also use cotton thread both above and below. That's what
I've always done so far.
 
Pam: I would hesitate to buy a toy sewing machine because I would expect
that the quality would be rather poor, and it is frustrating for small
people to have to work with poor tools. Actually, I would hold off on
buying him his own machine. Unless your machine is very delicate, I'd
teach him to use yours. I find that children learn to be more careful with a
tool when told "This is Mommy's machine and you may use it if you are
very good and careful. It is NOT a toy." Also, a five year old's interest in
something like sewing may quickly evaporate, and you may regret having
bought him something as expensive as a sewing machine.  If the interest
continues you could always buy him his own machine later.
 
 Mary 
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:02:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Machine for a 5 year old

My son loved to sew on my machine when he was about that age (he's now 12 and
sewing is no longer "cool"). He was always very careful and never had any
problems. He used to use my 1970's Kenmore and couldn't understand why when I
got my Bernina I wouldn't let him use it more often. I think you're better
off buying an older machine rather than a toy. I don't know about the
lockstitch you mentioned but avoid the Tiny Tailor - it runs whenever the
switch is on and scared me (there's no foot control). I think an older
machine would be nice and sturdy and you wouldn't worry so much about him
hurting himself or the machine. Good Luck. Sue M.
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:31:11 -0400
Subject: Re: quilting stitch

Pia, (and other 1080./1090 owners),

The quilting stitch we have been talking about can't be done on your machine
(I'm sorry) cause you don't have the feather stitch (bummer!).  Not to worry
though, cause I don't think I would use it that often.  Pia, you had asked
about why we would set the top tension high..... it is to pull the bobbin
thread to the top, thus is would give a hand-quilted look since we are using
the monofilament on top.  

By the way, for all 1080/1090 machine owners... Bernina publishes literature
on a lot of other machines that do fantasy stitches that you could maybe use
for your machines, you would just have to see if you have those stiches on
your machine (the numbers would be different, just look for the stitch).
 Also, I have put together about 4 pages of fantasy stitches and motifs for
the 1080/1090 machines.  If you would like a copy, just let me know and I'll
be glad to send you a copy via snail mail.

Have a great day folks!
Judy
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:20 CST
Subject: Re[2]: Jan Sander's Book

     I, too, called Chilton and was told that the book IS still 
     in print and available.  I had the local book store order 
     it.
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Date:          Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:31:49 EST5DST
Subject:       Re: "little" iron

These are called "travel irons" and can be bought most anywhere that 
sell small house-hold appliances, like Wallmart
Linda
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 11:46:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Club Survey

I was just at the S.E.W. in Albany a couple of weeks ago ..Did we meet ? It
was a great semminar, I hope it will continue to grow. The shop also has
great fabric....I always leave a part of my pay check there.Pat R
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 11:48:37 -0700
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/27/95

Pam

Sounds like we're in the same boat.  I have a 6 year old that is dying to
learn so sew.  I found an old Bernina that is a small size, I think it's a
700 or 730.  They didn't make them very long is my understanding but they
are downsized and have the Bernina tension and can use all the feet from my
930. It only does straight and zig-zag but that's enough.  I don't have it
yet, i have to make one more payment.  I thought my daughter could use a
lesson in the concept of saving and waiting to go with the new machine.  She
really wanted something "small" and this way we can share feet when we sew.

e-mail me directly - i'd like to know what projects you do and i'll tell you
about my successes and failures.

my email address is lbarnum@ix.netcom.com

i'd love to teach my sons but i only have 2 daughters

good luck -- another option might be the "quilter's machines" and i'm not
the expert there.

linda
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Subject: 
Date: 29 Sep 1995 14:32:43 GMT

The Bernina walking foot for the 1630 is part number 003 208 70 00; believe me
the correct foot makes a big, big difference.  I had a 1530 previous to
buying the 1630 and thought I could use the 1530 walking foot on the 1630. 
Since the feed dogs are further apart on the 1630 than on the 1530, the 1530
walking foot does not work well at all on the 1630. Incidentally, the 1630
walking foot was one of the first additional feet that Bernina brought out,
primarily because it does make such a big difference.  One of the other ones
is the edge stitch foot; the 1530 edge stitch foot does not work well on the
1630.  The 1630-coded version works great.
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 15:42:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Machine for a 5 year old

Pam-
I taught my 6 year old how to sew this summer. She didn't ask for her own
machine and I didn't offer! But I really appreciated the slow speed control
on my 1630 so she couldn't go at supersonic speeds. I've always found it
_easier_ to sew on my Berninas than the cheap machine I had previously.
Smoother starts and no thread balling up on the bottom of the fabric. These
things annoy us, but they're more than a small kid can handle. Remember: this
is supposed to be fun for the kids.

My daughter really, really likes "I'll Teach Myself to Sew: Sewing Machine
Fun." Probably that's the important thing. But the projects all involve
sewing wrong sides together and visible seams. Doesn't bother her, but it
rubs me the wrong way. Am I being too fussy here?

A former lurker,
Lois
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 17:25:32 -0400
Subject: Re: BOA Online

> even the dealers recognize the difference in the company's response to
>customer concerns.

I think we are going to hear more and more comments like this...very revealing!

Liz
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 23:18:20 -0400
Subject: 1/4 " Foot

I have read a lot of comments about the #37 1/4" foot.  I presently use the
Little Foot which works fine but doesn't always give a lot of control under
the presser foot.  Am interested in the #37 for my 930.  Does anyone know if
the #37 will work on my machine?

Barbara
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 23:42:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Help! Afraid of new machine

Patches,

I didn't mean to say she should be afraid of her new machine.  I love my 1090 and
am very happy with it.  I recently got a serger it's a used one.  I think it is
a 234 I haven't read anything on BFC about this one.  If anyone has any info for
me please let me know.

Angel
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 23:48:20 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Club Survey

Debbie,

>
>Name of dealership (optional): Country Stiches

>Location (town/city, state): Coral Springs, FL

>Number of meetings each year:     11

>Cost per year:      $5 per meeting

>Location of meeting (e.g. in store, at local church or high school, in
>  someone's home)             In Store Classroom

>Approximate number of people at a club meeting:         20-25 (also have an
AM meeting

>Length of club meeting (hours): 1 1/2 hours (7 - 8:30)
>Typical activities at club meeting (e.g. guest speaker, demo, hands-on
>sewing):  I've only been to the first one - It was a lecture on needles -
next is a demo on applique and in Nov a "party" meeting.

>Typical topics of club meetings (e.g. instruction in use of machine
>  and accessories,  fashion sewing techniques, quilting techniques,
>  home decorating projects, fabric embellishment, ...)              A mix of
sewing / embellishing and quilting information - complemented by show &tell
at the end so people can see what others are working on / have done.
>Describe sales promotions at club meetings:       Items featured are offered
but not pushed.
>Describe any additional benefits to Bernina Club members (e.g. free
>  lessons, discounts on purchases outside of meetings, etc.)?        We get
a 10% discount on purchases that nite and it's great for me as they keep 9-5
hours but after Club you may shop.  They will even cut fabric.  This is the
only time I can go without my kids.

>Is your Bernina club well-organized with adequate facilities?          Yes

>Do the programs at meetings match your needs and interests?        I don't
know yet - I think so.
>How do you feel about the charges (if any) for joining (would be
>  willing to pay more, just right, too high)?         It's reasonable to me.
 They post class topics in advance and rather than collect a yearly fee you
pay as you go.  People who have used up their free year can come when they
are interested and skip those that don't appeal.

>Comments:          So far I'm really pleased and excited.  Needles seemed
boring but little did I know what could be done with some of them.  ALSO:
 they didn't have a foot I wanted and offered to order it but when I
mentioned I had a time crunch they cheerfully recomended another dealer who
has a sewing/repair shop operation and stocks nearly everything!!!!

Pam
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Subject: Re: "little" iron
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 22:05:49 PDT

Hi Verna;

These lil' guys are travel irons, and I am sure you can purchase them in
deparments stores.  Or any place that sells travel items.  I dug mine out
to take to classes and even use it at home sometimes now.  :0}  Good luck!

-- 
Jean P
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 09:06:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/28/95

Hello everyone!

Just had to tell you that I upgraded my 6-mo old 1001 for a 1090S on 
Thursday. Can't wait to try it. My dealer has an upgrade policy that you 
pay the difference between the cost of the first machine and the second 
if you upgrade within 6 month of purchase. Although I found the 1001 to 
be much superior to my 25-year old Kenmore, once I started machine 
quilting, not having the needle-down capability drove me crazy. I also 
wanted the basting stitch plus some of the decorative stitches like the
hemstitch. When I bought the 1001 last May, i did so with then intent of 
upgrading if I needed (wanted) more features. I think this is a great way 
to do business - plus I get a full 12 months of Bernina Club with my upgrade.
I also wanted to let you know how helpful everyones comments have been on 
the features of various Bernina models - you all helped me decide to go 
for the 1090 rather than the 1260 (of course, I can upgrade in 6 months 
--you never know!)

Well, I'm off to hear Elly Sienkiewicz speak on the History &Symbolism 
of Quilting at a program sponsored by the South Florida Historical Museum 
and The Quilt Scene (which also happens to be my Bernina dealer - no 
affiliation). Otherwise I'd be sewing -- I have a few more pillows to 
finish for the Church Bazaar next Saturday.

Best to you all,
Sharyn L
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 10:03:51 -0400
Subject: Re: quilting stitch

Rejoice, you 1080 and 1090 owners!!  You CAN do the quilting stitch - just
use the honeycomb stitch with the same settings instead of the feather
stitch.  I get the best results with the honeycomb on the 1080, 1090, 1260
and 1530.  I use the feather stitch on the 1630.  Have fun!

Shelley
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 08:13:53 -0600
Subject: Re: 1/4" foot

.  Am interested in the #37 for my 930.  Does anyone know if
>the #37 will work on my machine?

Yes - the #37 foot works fine on my 930! Betty S
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 11:56:47 -0400
Subject: hooking up 1630 to Mac 486 card

I am wondering if you can hook up the 1630 to the 486 card that you can buy
for PowerMacs. Has anyone done this? 

RobbiE
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 12:36:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Walking Foot

The box that my walking foot came in says: 006 330 7000. Now we have at least
3 different part numbers reported. I know that my foot is not for the 1630.
It was the first walking foot that came with the seam guide attachment.  The
newest version made for the 1630 and now the standard foot does not have a
prism. It is wider to accomodate the wider feed dogs and there is less metal
in the center of the foot so that you can see where you are stitching.

Francyne
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 12:32:13 -0400
Subject: Fantasy Stitches

Hello everyone!

 I haven't been ignoring you about fantasy stitches. I have been searching
for my notes and have not been very successful at this point. One stitch that
I have found utilizes the honeycomb stitch which is A1/9 on both the 1530 and
1630. The only change is to use a vertical balance of 12 with the arrows
pointing toward each other which means that you are squeezing the stitch
closer together. 1230 people use stitch #11 and push the minus balance button
12 times. If sewn with metallic thread, this stitch should look like braid.
1130 people the stitch is #13.

I'll keep looking for more ideas - Francyne
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95 16:46:00 UTC
Subject: RE; Help, I'm afraid..

Angel,
 
I knew you had made a typo, it was so cute, I just had to respond.
 
The 234 ds serger, that is a good serger, and I do wish I had kept mine now.
It really did a nice job for me, What else did you need to do about it.
 
Patches
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Date: 30 Sep 95 13:18:39 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/29/95

Reply to Barbara:

>>Am interested in the #37 for my 930.  Does anyone know if
the #37 will work on my machine?

Yes, that was the first new foot I got for my 930 in several years. Works 
fine! It now gets used on a 1530, though 

Meredith
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 08:55:58 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Learnin' to sew

I was 7 years old when my Mom sent me to sewing school that summer (kept
me out of trouble).  I learned how to draft 2 things--aloha and hobo
shirts (the rage).  Today, only glimpses of that summer can be recalled. 
Maybe my mom was a rare breed.  I just cannot remember her being concerned
that I would hurt myself on her sewing machine.  

My dad constructed a box so I could reach the foot pedal.  I'm 5'2" so you
can imagine how teeny-tiny I WAS at 7 yrs.  Since I couldn't lift the
machine out of the cabinet, she left it open.  

As far back as I can remember, threading the machine and filling the
bobbins were my jobs (remember feeling very important).  I started to do
simple mending by the time I turned 5 or was it 6? 

What started it was the day she noticed a heavily sewn test scrap in the
trash bin.  There went my sneaky secret and my next job was simple
mending.  The big DON'T was her fabric scissors.  She gave me one of my
own.  The big DO was guide the fabric, not your fingers as it moves
towards the needle, NO PINS, needle-up to remove fabric and food or drink
accidents around the machine may cause severe damage to the machine.  That's 
all she said.

My sister wasn't interested in sewing; I wasn't interested in her dolls.  
But I liked making doll clothes.  So between the 2 of us, she designed 
and I sewed.  Fun part was discussing styles.  These sister memories 
always fill my heart.

This isn't anything Bernina.  Concerns over your babies hurting themselves
in sewing triggered past memories.  I think Mom instinctively trusted me
to know what hurts and how to avoid it, but she never voiced it.  Learning
to sew is fascinating and a wonderful bond.  In peering into these past
memories, I would have puffed with pride if she said "You've been watching
me sew.  I trust you and know that you won't hurt yourself operating the
sewing machine."   She didn't say that but because she gave me freedom to 
use the sewing machine, I still enjoyed her trust.

CiCi
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 15:21:48 -0400
Subject: Re: "little" iron

I don't know if this is what you are talking about, but I purchased a small
travel iron at a garage sale to take to workshops with me. It works really
well, even can be used as a steam iron, too. Hope this helps. Sue M.
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 15:59:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Machine for 5 yo

My Mother and I had my neice sewing when she was about 5 or 6.  We were
Bernina-less at the time, so had her use our Singer Featherweights.  They can
sew very slowly which was very useful.

In fact, when we did our first project with Katie, she sat on my lap and
"steered" while I worked the foot pedal.  We had a nice talk before we
started about how sharp the needle was and how fast it went.  I had her feel
the working end of the needle and showed her where to place her hands on the
fabric.

It went great and she's gone on to other sewing/quilting projects as has her
little brother now.

I don't think I'd hesitate to do the same thing with my 1260, especially
using the 1/2 speed selection.  I guess I don't see myself letting a child
that young use any sewing machine without direct supervision.  

Mary Beth G
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 18:15:20 -0400
Subject: Bernina of Switzerland website

I see that Bernina of Switzerland is setting up its own website!  I don't
remember the internet addresss, but there is a hypertext link to it from the
Bernina Fan Club homepage.  It's still under construction, but I think it
will be an exciting development.  Does anyone know if any of the other major
sewing machine makers have their own websites, and if so what are the
internet addresses?

Pam
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95 18:28:41 MDT
Subject: buttonholes -- AARGH!!

My 1530 has always made perfect buttonholes.  Until today.
I was finishing a vest for my 8 year old niece, and when I tried
to make the buttonholes, the vest would not feed through the machine.

At first I thought that the polyester lining was too slick, so I 
put tear awat stabilizer underneath.  That didn't help.

Then I thought the vest might be too thick, so I folded a piece
of fabric to the same thickness as the vest, and butted it up
against the presserfoot.  That didn't work.

The bobbin thread was through that little eye on the bonnin, and
everything else was just like I always had it.  The test buttonholes
on thick (although NOT lined) material were great.  I was using the 
automatic buttonhole foot, with the glass eye,  both for tests and
the real thing.

Other than the buttonholes, the vest is really cute and I hate to
give up on it.  Any suggestions?  does anyone else have this problem
with lining?  All help is GREATLY appreciated!

Debbie
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 21:08:11 EDT
Subject: Rotary Mat

Has anyone had any success in straightening a warped rotary mat?  I 
was always so careful with mine until the one time I forgot and left 
it in the car.  I am ready to toss it, but thought I would make one 
last effort and ask here.
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 21:06:48 EDT
Subject: Bernina Factory 

Thought you all might like an update on the where-abouts of my 1630 
since it became so seriously ill and,  in fact, died on August 25, 
1995.  I certainly appreciated all of the notes of sympathy and have 
eaten a lot of chocolates, as suggested, and even got my house 
cleaned during this mourning period.

Update:

On August 25 I delivered my powerless 1630 to the dealer.  The 
technician did not know what the problem was.  It was sent back to 
Bernina where they "repaired" a circuit board and returned it to the 
dealer.  The dealer routinely runs the machine for an hour before 
giving it back to the customer.  After 20 minutes, it died again.  
The dealer then returned it to Bernina where they "repaired" a 
circuit board and returned it to the dealer.  The dealer found a loud 
"klunking" sound and after some conversation with the powers to be at 
Bernina, was instructed to return the board and when they received 
the old one, they would send a new one (a lot of trust here, don't 
you think?).  Does anyone but Bernina "repair" circuit boards?  Seems 
strange.  So, I am still waiting, and waiting, and waiting------------
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Sandy--still depressed!
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Date: Sun,  1 Oct 95 01:44:00 UTC
Subject: Deco

Red,
 I love the Deco, too! I spent the whole afternoon doing up swap pieces for a
swap I'm in on GEnie. Then I experimented with a couple of the cards (I've
already bought a lot of them). I want to make an apron for a special friend
who vends at rubber stamp shows. He always wears an apron filled with the
pins people at the shows give him (made using rubber stamps--there's a lot
of pin exchanging at those). He's from Las Vegas, so I made up an emblem all
done in metallic threads with the name of his company and his name within
it. It worked out great. So now I have to put it on a bib pocket for the
apron. I'm going to make the apron out of fairly heavy denim. He's a big
Elvis fan so I'm thinking of making the lower (belly level) pocket out of
some splashy Elvis fabric that I found at WalMart.
 
I have a list a mile long of things I want to make for people using the
Deco. Even have fantasies about putting a big "P" on all my clothes, like in
Laverne and Shirley. :)
 
                                Petchy
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95 22:46:49 -0500
Subject: My, how things have changed ! : )

Hi Everyone, 

I've been working on restoring several old sewing machines that I inherited and 
I found a price list for accessories from the back of the manual for a 1920 
National cabinet machine.  I'm sending it to the Bernina list as well as the 
Featherweight Fanatics, just to put some perspective on the prices we 'nina fans 
pay for our accessories.  Also makes FW fans realize just how much the value of 
our old machines have increased.  I've estimating 13,000% increase for the oil 
cans  =:0

Ruffler - 1.50
Tucker - 1.50
Foot Hemmer Sets, including Binder - .75
Braider Foot	 - .25
Thread Cutter - .05
Hemmer and Feller - .30
Presser Foot - .25
Bobbin Case - 1.25
Needles, all sizes, per dozen	 - .30
Guide Thumb Screw - .10
Oil Can - .15
Bobbins, ea - .05
Screw Driver - .15
Shuttle Screw Driver - .10
Quilter - .05
Edge Stitcher - .50

Enjoy

Thanks, 
Sue T
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Date: Sun,  1 Oct 95 02:41:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/28/95

Verna,
   Would you share the directions for making an ironing pad like used at the
sewing class or club meeting you attended?  I wish I knew what irons they
were using.  I have a couple of old irons I take to classes and DH has a
Rowenta for home, but doesn't like for me to use it 
 
      Nikki
 
Nita,
    I have your Jacket Jazz Book and Jacket Jazz Encore in front of me.
Advise me if I should send them by ship; otherwise I will ship them airmail
on Monday.
 
       Nikki
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 23:17:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/19/95

I didn't think the extra money is worth the cover stitch.  If you will wind a
bobbin with
Wooly Nylon thread and use your double needle as normal (with normal thread)
you will find it will "stretch" with the knits without pulling out.   Wind
your wooly nylon on a bobbin, but wind it slow so as not to wind the
"stretch" out of it.  Good luck.


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