Bernina Fan Club Archives

September 95

Sunday, September 17 - Saturday, September 23

Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 07:23:35 -0600
Subject: Re: Sergers &my question

>Dear Ginny,

In response to your question:
>I am thinking about the possibility of getting a serger. Tell me why I should
>get a Bernina (I already know why, but it is always fun to ask this question).
>currently 'drive' a 930 and would love to have a 2000DE. If I told you how we
>(my sister and I) have been figuring out how to come up with the money, you'd
>probably laugh.
I have had the Bernina 2000D for two years.  I had traded in a NewHome
serger that I had only owned for about 9 months.  I told my dealer I wanted
a serger that wouldn't make me cry.  I can't tell you how easy it is to
change feet, completely rethread, change needles, and clean the Bernina
2000.  I have sewn just about everything possible on it including the usual
t-shirts, bridesmaids dresses and short veils, formals with beading,
country curtains, and quilts (even denim crazy quilts).  I have also sewn
with all sorts of specialty thread and haven't found a task it wouldn't do

I have looked at the Bernina 200DCE with the cover stitch but am not
tempted to give up my current machine.  I currently use either the serger
blind stitch attachment or my Bernina 1630 plus a double needle for

I hope this helps.  Now I have a question.

I have been looking for a used Bernina to carry back and forth to classes,
to use when my 1630 goes in for cleaning/maintenance/upgrading and to have
for giving lessons to any of my three daughters or one grand-daughter.  I
have leads on:

1.  a Bernina 830 for $500
2.  a Bernina 1120 for $650
3.  a Bernina 930 (with a hard case) for $800

The 1630 and the 2000D are the first Berninas I have ever owned and I know
NOTHING about older Berninas.  I would be VERY grateful for any advice on
what is the best buy.

Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 11:46:48 -0400
Subject: Prices

I just bought a serger ruffler from Mr. Z, and was pleased with the service.
 However I did ask him to give me a price on a Deco 500, as my husband does
take business trips to his area.  Guess what?  His price was the same as my
dealer, MD Sew &Vac! (1299 for a demo)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 12:16:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 1530 vs 1630 Buttonholes

Having just had two brief demonstrations on the 1630, I am no authority, 
but I did get a helpful brochure listing the features of all 
currently-made Berninas.  You are correct--the 1530 and the 1630 have 8 
styles of buttonholes--the other 7 models offer 1 or 2 styles.  At my 
dealer's, there is just $300 difference in the 1530 and the 1630.  She 
keeps a very low inventory so has only the 1630 and the 1080 on the floor 
to show me.  I, therefore, can't try out the various machines in an 
effort to pick the one with the best stitch quality or the best 
buttonhole.  I did, however, briefly try out a friend's 1630 and it does 
make beautiful buttonholes and straight stitching.  Also the monogram 
letters were perfection.  So--one must make some assumptions.  If I buy a 
1630, it will have to be ordered and will arrive in about a week.  The 
dealer said she special orders everything.  I am going to assume all will 
go well when I place my order.  They have been in business for perhaps 20 
years, and do all repairs in the shop.  The only exception was when there 
was a factory upgrade and they then shipped a few machines to the factory 
for that work to be done.  If I happen to get a 1630, or any other model, 
which doesn't perform correctly, I am going to assume that they can fix 
it or replace that part right here in town.  Incidentally, the 1630 
buttonhole seemed easy to me--it sews downward on the left side, bartacks 
at the bottom, goes up very rapidly with a straight stitch (I think) on 
the right, bartacks at the top, then stitches the right side of the 
buttonhole.  Both sides are, therefore, sewn from top to bottom insuring 
matching stitch quality for the whole buttonhole.  My old Bernina
requires some tension adjustment on some fabrics to make perfect 
buttonholes.  I'm not all that fussy about blouse buttonholes and usually 
just let it do its thing.  I don't seem to have any trouble with jacket 
buttonholes and use buttonhole twist as a stitch filler.  I don't know if 
this is the way the 1530 makes buttonholes.  I am learning a lot on this 
Net.  Good luck to both of us in shopping.
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 09:40:07 -0700
Subject: Re: I bought my Deco 500, finally!

You wrote: 
called Madeira from a phone number    Their thread looks good too,
>has anyone used it.  As you can tell I am new to this.

I have used Maderia thread for about 5 years.  I prefer it to also any 
other thread.  The colors are very true and I have had no complaints 
about fading or shedding.  They offer a discount if you join the ETA 
(Embrodery Trade Association).  I also like Robinson-Anton textile 
thread.  Gunold + Stickma also has some nice threads.  Most of these 
places will send a color chart if requested.   PEGGY
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 95 16:42:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Price on a 1630

I really wonder if Bernina is aware of these concerns about dealers from
those of us who love the machines so much. I don't know how they stack up in
sales compared to comparable (is there anything comparable?) machines. I
just can't believe they are so far ahead of the pack that they can afford
the bad PR. And now with internet, the word will spread even faster than if
we were just gossiping with our neighbors or sewing friends.
We really need to talk to them directly to offer this feedback. Then if they
show they are uncaring, we really do have a problem.
Are there any independent service people, or are they all tied to
dealerships? I wonder if there is a directory of factory authorized/trained
service people?
My experience with Bernina dealers is extremely limited. But I think one
example of a friendly helpful shop is the one I went into in Rochester, NY,
this summer. I didn't at first tell them that I was just visiting. Just that
I had a 1530. And they knew that I hadn't bought it from them. They were so
friendly and courteous, and very helpful with my questions. I have a feeling
that they are like that with whoever comes in the door. I'd certainly
support them to the hilt if I lived anywhere near there.
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 95 17:21:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Good price on a 1630

 I wish I could become a Bernina dealer myself! There is only this one in the
whole state of New Mexico. Customer service/attitude aside, Albuquerque is a
long way to drive for anyone not living there.
I like your idea about talking to other machine dealers here, if only there
were some. ::groan:: Santa Fe is small, and there are only three fabric
stores here. HOF carries poor quality; another is way too pricey; and the
third one has good stuff, but open only 9-5 weekdays. So Saturday is the
only day I can go in there. There are a couple of really good ones in ABQ,
but again, driving that far for shopping really wipes out your day.
I will take your advice and write to Bernina. I also have the number for the
president of BNA and first chance I get to make a personal call on a
weekday, I'm going to call him. Not just to complain, but to see what I
could do on a positive note. Maybe they would authorize me to run a
dealership out of my studio (like Mr. Z does). At least then I could support
the people in northern NM and they wouldn't have to drive so far.
Thanks for your help!
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 95 17:22:00 UTC
Subject: 1530 vs 1630 Buttonholes

 I have the 1530 and I think the buttonholes are wonderful. It also sews the
buttons on for you very easily. The buttonholes take a little practice, but
they're not all that difficult. You just need to sit with the manual by the
machine the first few times. The only problem I have is getting it just the
right size for the button I'm using. Sometimes I have to do 5-6 practice
ones. I also like that you can put the buttonhole twist right on the foot
and it tucks it into the buttonhole nicely. I hardly ever make a buttonhole
without the twist. I keep the spool on the second spool holder on top of the
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 95 17:21:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Price on a 1630

 Very eloquently put! You said very clearly what I have been stumbling
around. I was a purchasing manager for 20 years, and my buyers were always
instructed to buy for price, availability, and quality. Never just for price
alone. And, all things being equal, we always bought from the "best" source -
- i.e., the one with the best service.
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 14:09:12 -0400
Subject: Babylock sergers

I know this is the Bernina, not the Babylock, list, but since the subscribers
to this list seem knowledgeable about many brands, I thought I'd ask my
question here.  Also, if I replace my present Babylock sewing machine with a
Bernina, I probably won't be able to trade the BL sewing machine in on the
Bernina, but can trade it in on a BL serger.  So my question is sort of

I was in my neighborhood Babylock/Singer dealer today looking, for the first
time, at the sergers.   There were two models in my price range--one was the
Protege, on sale for $499, and the other was the BL4-736D, on sale for $599.
 The salesman said that the two have similar features, and the Protege has a
couple of convenience features not on the other (like not having to change
the plate to make a rolled hem), but that the main difference was that the
Protege is made in Taiwan and the other in Japan.  He said the Protege would
be fine for me and the light duty I would give it, but that the Japanese
machines are more durable.  Thence the price difference.

Does anyone have a view on this subject or on these prices? 
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 95 17:22:00 UTC
Subject: Re: I bought my Deco 500, fina

 I recently purchased a Deco 500 and I've been using Sulky and Mettler
embroidery threads. I like them both a lot. I think the Sulky has more
sheen, so I tend not to mix the two in the same project unless it looks nice
to have two different finishes together. Nancy's notions has a 25% off sale
right now, and she has all the Sulky colors. Good time to stock up.
Would you mind posting the Madeira number? I'd really like to try their
thread, too. I have no local source for good threads, so I mail order in
large quantities so I always have what I need on hand.
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 13:00:08 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book

I moved shortly after getting my Bernina so, altho I had taken the basic 
class, I wanted something more to give me confidence.  I bought A 
Step-by-step Guide to your Bernina by Jan Saunders and really like it.  
Caveat:  I have a 1530 and this book, at least the edition I have, 
doesn't cover special differences of the 1530 or 1630.  But, it does 
cover the feet in detail with examples of work you can do with them.  It 
also has an chapter detailing the stitches.  And projects to do to use 
some of the capabilities of the machine.  I'm still getting new things 
out of it after a year.  And I reread it every so often to refresh myself 
on the things I tend to forget.  It's published by Chilton Books, ISBN is 

Hope this helps,

Liz C
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 95 18:55:00 UTC
Subject: The Quilt Scene in Miami

How does one find the archives?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 15:56:58 -0400
Subject: Mr. Zimmerman

I have been receiving this board for only a few days, and have to tell
everybody how much I have been enjoying it, This is my first message and I
hope I do it right!
I would like to know who this Mr. Zimmerman is and how do I find out his
prices, his phone number and or address. I have a 1630, 2000DE and a Brother
embroidery machine. Also have a wonderful dealer who is about five minutes
from my house. 
Thanks, Phyllis
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 16:01:33 -0400
Subject: Re: The Quilt Scene in Miami

Dear Pam,

I really found your message very funny.  When I first applied to be a bernina
Dealer some 12 + years ago, The question that was asked of me was could I
support the general sewing public.  They had had no experience with quilt stores
and I was a complete curiosity.  I had a hard time explaining that in a former
life I did make clothes and had taught sewing.  I was one of the very first
quilt stores to become a dealer.  My education as a quilt store dealer, was the
same as given to all the Bernina Dealers. 

Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 16:02:09 -0400
Subject: All dealerships are not created equal !!!

There is absolutely no way I can possibly compare a Bernina Dealer to any car
dealer. To become a Bernina Dealer today, I believe you must have over $35,000
to invest. Nothing is bought on time.  You own all the machines in your business
they are not a loan that is paid off when it is sold.  I frankly today would not
have the funds to be a dealer again.  Cars on the other hand are loaned to the
dealership until sold.  Then they are paid for.  It is extremely difficult to be
a Bernina Dealer cost wise and time wise. That is why you don't find them all
over the place.

No one but a Bernia Dealer can properly repair a Bernina.  Authentic parts are
not sold to anyother person except a Bernina Dealer.  There are special tools
manufactured in Switzerland that are made to fit only Berninas.  This was done
purposely to exclude other dealerships from servicing the Berninas.  If you take
your machine to another dealership to have it serviced, and parts not
manufactured by Bernina are installed in the machine, I believe that makes the
warrenty null and void.  These are some of the things that make buying a Bernina
something real special and not just another sewing machine.

Here is a very good example of Dealer loyality.  A woman who lived two blocks
from a Bernina Dealer (whom she liked) decided to save the almighty dollar.  She
traveled over one an hour to go to another dealer to buy her machine.  She saved
about $250. At the same time she forgot that the local gal was having a special
sale and when she went in the day after the sale to purchase a walking foot at
the wonderful price that had been advertized for the day before, the dealer
asked her when she had bought the machine since she had definately not bought it
from her.  When told what she did, The dealer said that she was sorry but the
sale was over and she couldn't honor the sale price after the day before.   If
she had bought the machine from her she would have given her the sale price. 
What did the gal lose to save $250.  Her time, she will have to travel that hour
for three times to get her lessons.  If she wants to participate in a Bernina
Club, it woun't be local,  Service - drive and hour. Etc.  Also she lost the
respect of her local dealer and probably will have to make that drive to even
buy her feet.

Now there was a note earlier about someone who is transferred all over the
country.  Please when you get unpacked, go visit your local Bernina Dealer. 99%
of the dealers in the USA will welcome you with open arms.  You should be
invited into the Bernina Club, you may have to pay a small club fee, but that is
sure worth it.  No dealer in their right mind would turn your business down. 
Even the little time spent in cleaning and servicing is worth it to get you as a
cuntomer.  You represent potential $'s in business buying all kinds of goodies,
and in a few years a possible trade-up.

Lastly I will check and see if I can get the formula for a 1530 for the quilting

I want to stress that I am no longer associated with Bernina, I own a 1230 not
even close to the newest, I am not on my local dealers payroll, I just love my
Bernina and think it still is the very best Machine on the market today
regardless of price. 
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 19:24:08 -0400
Subject: a second machine

I am considering buying a second machine for those times when my 1530 is
being difficult (it only happens when I have a deadline!) and to take to
class (I've dropped my 1530 too often, maybe that's why she can be difficult
at times...).  I have a major investment in extra feet however (most of my
work involves fabric manipulations).  Does anyone know which other models
those feet will fit on?  I don't have a local Bernina dealer so will be
looking on my own!

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 02:51:00 UTC
Subject: Prices

 That's great about your dealer giving such a wonderful price. Given the
choice, I'd take the local dealer.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 02:52:00 UTC
Subject: Re: I bought my DECO 500, fina

 Would you mind posting the addresses and/or phone numbers for the thread
sources you mentioned? I have no local source and like to stock up. What is
the ETA and how do you join?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 03:58:00 UTC
Subject: Babylock Serger

I wouldn't buy a cheaper serger just for the price, there are many
differences between them, the cheaper ones are made of cheaper materials,
are harder to replace parts for and require service far more often.
All sergers with a few exceptions are made by Juki in Japan, as one person
who has a juki serger, (I recently purchased my old one back from the person
I sold mine to) and a bernina serger, I love my Juki the best.  Now bernina
sergers are made by Juki so the quality should certainly be there.  I am one
person who doesn't happen to love her bernina serger, but there is now way
that I could afford to sell it now in order to get what I should have got in
the first place.  (I wanted a Baby lock) but my dealer, gave me such a great
price on the 2000de, that I couldn't turn it down.  I love everything about
the serger except for starting and stopping.  The threads for me when
starting and stopping should not unravel so easily, on my juki, they were
far more tight together, than they are on the bernina.
Any way, I don't consider my bernina a cheap serger, yes I paid under a
$1,000.00 for it, but I have never had problem one with it either.  I have
friends who opted for cheaper sergers and are sorry now they did, theirs
have been in and out of shops far to many times for me to count.  In todays
world of sewing, it is important whether you use the machine alot or not, to
purchase a good quality, durable machine.
I feel very bad, when I see my friends making an unwise choice.  Please
don't make the same mistake.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 06:21:00 UTC
Subject: Basic Bernina Book

Jeans asks for a basic Bernina book...
I use the Chilton book "A Step by Step Guide to your Bernina" as a basic
book.  You say that you have a 1230 (as I do) and this book does include the
1230 model in its discussion.  The "Know your Bernina" books do not.  Step
by Step Guide is by Jan Saunders.  It quite basic, kgoes through all the
stitches, has small exercises and projects to get you going, and several
tables of needles/fabric/etc. recommendations.
Now for a question of mine.  At the last month's Bernina Club at my local
dealer, we featured the buttonhole feet.  One thing that I particularly
liked doing was gathering using cord with the #3 buttonhole foot.  This is
described in the 1230 Bernina Guide that came with the sewing machine
entitled "Inspirational Sewing" on page 53.  In class I sat at the 1130 to
do the sample, and I don't remember which stitch number to use for this
exercise.  On p. 53 the stitch picture shown is the stitch we used in
Bernina Club, and it is in this booklet that came with my machine (which I
had never noticed before) BUT I cannot find this stitch on my machine.  I am
convinced it is not there, but must be on the 1130.  Can someone with an
1130 check this?  Do you have that stitch?  Which number is it?  I tried
every "practical stitch" (#s 2-12) and none work.  I am sure it was a stitch
that was chosen from the top row of the machine.  I will say that I have
since used #16 (the feather stitch) on the 1230 and gotten it to work fine,
but I still wonder what happened to this stitch.  Thanks in advance.
PS.  I've been reading the mailist for a couple weeks now.  I really enjoy
it.  Thanks to everyone.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 08:24:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/13/95

Hello!  Well, after weeks of debating and testing and sweating and
comparing *new Berninas - I have a chance to buy a 930!  I *vaguely
remember all the glowing testimonials from folks who love theirs and
wouldn't give it up even when they buy a new one, so could some kind
soul please give a quick refresher on what makes the 930 so super?
I actually prefer a mechanical machine, so I'm going to keep my 801,
and either get the 930 or the top-of-the-line mechanical.  Sure wish
I'd kept all the conversation about the 930's.  Thanks for the help. :^)

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 08:59:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Dealerships &Quilting Stitch


I don't normally like to respond or get involved in conversations pertaining
to dealership/customer loyalty issues and such, but this time it finally got
to me.  I would like to respond to some issues stated on earlier posts.

>>Car dealerships are not like Bernina because you have the cars on loan
until they are sold>>

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong!  My husband is a car dealer so I know this, not just
making it up as I go along. A Bernina dealership is no more than a business
that was granted the right to sell Bernina sewing machines at whatever profit
margin they choose.

>>It is extremely difficult to become a Bernina Dealer cost wise and time
wise.  This is why you don't find them all over the place.>>

Probably the reason you don't find alot of Bernina Dealers in your area is
because Bernina of America sets a radius vs people for its locations.   You
can have mega bucks and time but if Bernina of America decides that you would
be competition to another dealer... too bad!

>>For the story of the "gal" who drove an extra hour to save $250 .... she
won't be able to participate in the local Bernina Club, has lost respect of
her local dealer and will probably have to drive to even buy her feet.>>

What?!!!!  This person can buy at any dealership she chooses.  The purchase
of accessories can be done anywhere!!!!   And for the participation in
Bernina Club ... usually you can go to any Bernina Club anywhere as long as
you pay their dues.  Respect?  It's a two-way street!!!   

There are many wonderful Bernina Dealers (because they are people first!).
  I also know that there are some crummy ones.  But, it is the high-minded
attitude of some Bernina Dealers AND owners that is extremely irritating!!!!!

Now, on to sewing with our machines.  Someone wanted the settings for the
1530 and the quilting stitch.  They are as follows:

Feather Stitch  G2/7
Stitch Width         0
Stitch Length        4
Foot                   #8
Balance              +2
Upper Tension       7

Use monofilament thread in the needle, 50 wt. cotton in bobbin.

Sorry about the earlier rantings ..... but I'm still feeling irritated.
 Hmmmm.  time to stop, drink a cup of coffee and sew... just for the sheer
pleasure of it!

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 08:10 CST
Subject: Re[2]: Price on a 1630


I agree with what you say - up to a point.  There are exceptions.  I don't 
believe that you should buy from and support a local dealer just because they 
are a local dealer.  They must be a GOOD local dealer.  Why should I support 
someone who is rude, isn't helpful, and doesn't seem to know what they are doing
or even care.  This was the impression I got from my local dealer (20 miles 
away) after going in several times to look at machines.  I finally bought a 
Pfaff  because that dealer is friendly, knowledgeable, helpful, is everything a 
dealer ought to be - and the sewing machine is good!!

I have sinced purchased a Bernina also, because the Bernina had some other 
features that I still wanted.  But I didn't go back to the local dealer.  I 
firmly believe in supporting local businesses, but I also believe that they must
earn my business with good service and help!

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 09:23:22 -0400
Subject: Second machine


All of the feet from the 1530 will fit on the 1630.  The onlyl thing is that
you will be limited to a 5 mm stitch width.  I have a 1230 and a 1630 and
change the feet back and forth all of the time.  I have just started doing
fabric manipulations and many times, I find the 5mm feet gives me more
control on the 1630 as the cutout for the needle is smaller.  I use the #37
foot and the straight stitch throat plate for everything that uses the needle
in the center position, especially on a soft fabric.  Hope this helps.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 09:23:38 -0400
Subject: Re: a second machine


The feet for your 1530 will fit on almost any Bernina machine   If you want a
computerized machine such as what you're used to, a used 1130 or 1230 would
be good choices.  (1230 was my favorite machine ... wish many times I still
had it).  If you want a new computerized .... you can get good prices on the
1080 (it doesn't have the knee-lift, though), the 1090 is a great machine for
the money and then there is the 1260.

If you don't necessarily need/want the computerized, there are some
mechanical machines that might fill in for you.  The 1000 (bottom-line
mechanical) has a knee-lift and 7 utility stitches (plus buttonhole, of
course) and is on sale most of the time around $600.  

There is a wide range of machines.  Only you can decide what really seems
right for what you will use it for and only you can decide how much you can
spend.  It would be real easy for me to spend your money  :-)   My choice for
a second machine would be a used 1230. If I had the extra money .... a 1260.
 BUT, the 1090 would be enough for me as a second machine.  By the way, the
1090 and the 1080 have the same stitches on them.  The differences in these
two machines is that the 1090 has the hard carrying case, the slide on sewing
table, a basting &long stitch (I think), knee-lift, and the 1090 also has a
repeat buttonhole ability. 

Good luck and let us know,
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 09:28:55 -0400
Subject: Skipped stitches


Try using only one layer of felt with a stabilizer.  Have you checked your
needle?  If the needle is too small or dull, it will skip stitches.  The
machine "gremlins" only appear when we are faced with a very close deadline.
 Congratulations to your daughter on her Gold Award.  I was active in Girl
Scouts for 16 years (13 as an adult) in many capicities.  Neither of my girls
went that far, but they did enjoy scouting and learned a lot from it.  Hope
you made it in time.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 08:27 CST
Subject: Re: Debbie's Cabinet

     I'm looking for a good sewing machine cabinet and have been 
     interested in all of the comments regarding cabinets.  Do 
     any of you have sources for the different brands?  Who does 
     Create-A-Space and others that have been described.

Date: 18 Sep 95 09:33:44 EDT
Subject: Basic Bernina Book

I agree with everyone else Jan Saunders Book is really good. I've  had my 1080 a
little over a month and I've learned so much both from this group and the
Saunders book. If you are wondering where to get it the Clotilde catalog has it
for 16.00  1-800-772-2891.
Good luck!

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 09:39:37 -0400
Subject: Ruffler/gathering foot

Another trick in using this foot on either the serger or the sewing machine
is to hold ldyour finger behind the foot so the fabric doesn't feed through
so quickly.  It forces more fabric into the gathers.  Stop the machine before
you lift your finger to release the buildup of fabric and replace your finger
before starting the machine again.  I use this techinque to make miles of
ruffles for my square dance dresses.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 09:46:51 -0400
Subject: Babylock sergers


Our local dealer sells both Bernina and Babylock machines so I am familiar
with them.  He only carries the top of the line Babylocks sewing machine
(Essante), the embroidery machine (Espree) and the Eclipse and Protege
sergers.  The convenience of not having to change the plate to do the rolled
hem would lean me toward the Protege.  I know that it is one of the most
popular sellers currently here and the people that have them seem to really
like them. It has more desirable features for its price than many other
higher priced machines, such as the free arm capability.  If you maintain it
properly, it should give you years of good service.  Hope this helps.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 09:36:11 -0400
Subject: trip to Switzerland

Have a great time.  I was in Switzerland at this time last year.  I went with
a group of quilters and we stayed in the homes of other quilters.  The Swiss
met us at the airport with a tour bus and we did a 2 1/2 day tour of the
country and drove past the front door of the Bernina factory.  Didn't stop
but I did get to see where my baby was made.  Went to a quilt show at a
museum in Bergen and then on to the homes of our hostesses.  Stayed for
another 4 days and met so many nice people there.  I fell in love with that
country and would go back any time I could.  From there, our group took the
train to Vienna.  What an incredible journey.  The scenery was magnificent.
 I found the Austrians to be very friendly but then we were visiting with a
group with common interests.  I am expecting my Austrian hostess and her
husband to visit me in Sept. next year.  As I said, I found the people
friendly and really did enjoy my trip.  Hope you enjoy yours too.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 10:02:01 -0400
Subject: Shoulder pads

Just got a real neat tip about shoulder pads at out Bernina club a week ago.
 The topic was on sewing on silks and other designer fabrics.  She makes a
cover for her shoulder pads that is like a zipperless cover for a pillow
form.  Cut a piece of your fashion fabric the size of the shoulder pad plus a
seam for each one.  Then cut 2 pieces that are a half of the pad plus seams
and about 1" extra for the center for each one.  Finish the center edges with
a narrow hem, Sew the two half pieces to the whole piece, ovelaping the
centers in the center of the shoulder pad.  Turn and press.  Tack the cover
in place in the garment with the opening toward the body.  Then you can just
slip the shoulder pad in to wear and out to clean the garment.  No more
twisted, mangled shoulder pads.  They work like the envelope closing on a
pillow closing.  Hope you understand this.  I usually draw all kinds of
illustrations for my quilting classes to go along with the directions.  If
you don't understand this, ask and I will try to explain it better.

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 10:15:41 -0400
Subject: Skirts

Congratulations on getting your skirts made.  I was in a similar position
this past week.  I found out on the 15th of Aug that I was going to do the
sewing clinic and demo at our state square dance convention this past
weekend.  I had approx 4 weeks to get it all put together.  (the Singer
dealer that had done it for several years had backed out at the last min.)  I
made 3 outfits and several samples of embelishing ideas and a handout in time
to go to the conv. on Thur.  The presentation was on Sat. afternoon.  I did
one skirt/blouse set using a border print, light pink with violets from Daisy
Kingdom, and two using the 9 degree wedge ruler.  One of the wedge ruler
skirts is adapted from the Christmas tree skirt in the book "Quilts without
corners" but in dark, rich colors for the holiday (deep red, green, and gold
with metallic highlights).  The other used a striped print, also a Daisy
Kingdom fabric, in yellow and black with cherries on it.  I know it sounds
funky, but it is a pretty fabric.  I made it by cutting on the 45 degree
angle line so the stripes made a chevron or zigzag around the skirt.  I
embelished my husbands yellow shirt to match the skirt and blouse on which I
had used the scraps to make a zig-zag-pointed ruffle on it(a basic peasant
blouse).  We modeled it in the fashion show that day.  Then I told them how
to make it in the sewing clinic.  All day, people kept coming up to me and
asking how I had done it or wanted to get a closer look at how I had made the
ruffle.  It made me feel good that I had gotten it done on time and that the
other people liked it as well as I did.  I did it all on my trusty Berninas.
 I used this as the reason to upgrade my serger from a 334d to a 2000DE.
 What a difference that new serger made.  I just zipped through those rolled
hems without spending forever adjusting the tensions.  I even rolled the edge
of a stripe of the fabric on both sides with wooly extra and used it to make
a hairbow barrett to match the dress.  Now I will make them for my grand
daughters.  What a great feeling to have the pressure off for a while.

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 10:25:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book


The stitch that you are looking for is called the "gathering stitch" and it
was not included on the 1230.  So many people wanted the stitch that is was
put back on the 1260 when it was issued.  Since you don't have this stitch, I
would use the #6 foot, run a piece of gimp or heavy thread through the little
hole in the front, and do a zig-zag stitch over the gimp.  It will work just
as well as the gathering stitch method and will use half the amount of
thread.  After you have sewn your gathered seam,  you can pull the gimp out.

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 10:33:00 -0400
Subject: Deco 500

Could you please post the number for Maderia.  I have just bought the
Babylock Essante which has the same embroidery capability as the Deco 500 as
well as being a very good sewing machine.  Never fear.  I am still a Bernina
lover.  I have a 1630 and a serger.  I am interested in trying the Madeira
threads and they are not available easily in our area.  I can get Sulky and I
like it, but would like to try some of the others.  Thanks,
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 10:40:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: a second machine

Dear Lisa:  I would think that the 1530 feet would fit the other Bernina 
models, except perhaps the 1630.  When I was in the shop for a demo on the 
1630, the dealer said any of my present feet with the white strip behind 
the needle would fit the 1630.  I am assuming this is true of the other 
models as well.  I was also told that if my walking foot rode on top of 
the feed dogs, it was a good fit.  I haven't tried it with a 1630, but I 
will if I purchase a new machine.  To make sure, take a couple of your
favorite feet with you when shopping for that second machine.  The 1630 
is the only machine with the wider-stitch capability and some if the feet
have sensors to allow the needle to make that wide stitch.  If I were 
isolated from a dealer (mine is 5 minutes away and does repairs on the 
spot) I would definitely want a second machine.  He says the newer 
machines require more frequent adjustment.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 07:44:48 -0700
Subject: Re:  Mary Lou Nall Books for Bernina

A couple weeks ago I purchased a 1530 and a Serger 2000DCE. This
Serges has the cover stitch, and cost me $1000 more than the "free"
serger the dealer gives with the purchase of a Bernina Sewing 
machine. Now that I've used the serger I'm feeling I may have
made a poor decision in spending the extra $1000 for the cover stitch.

My mind is racing with the idea of asking my dealer if she would be
willing to exchange the 2000 DCE for the DE, and apply that $1000
toward a Deco 500 embroidery maching. 

Do any of you have an opinion on this? I can use a double needle
on my sewing machine to get the double row of stitching, but
this is not a good stitch for stretchy knits. Are there other
considerations I should think about?

Thanks to anyone who can share an opinion.

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 07:46:07 -0700
Subject: Re:  Mary Lou Nall Books for Bernina

My last message did not pertain to "Mary Lou Nall Books for Bernina"

I appologize if I lead anyone astray.

: )

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 09:50:36 +0000
Subject: Bernina dealer near Ithaca?

I would like to know the what Bernina dealer is located closest to 
Ithaca, New York.


John H
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 10:40:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: a second machine

Dear Lisa:  I would think that the 1530 feet would fit the other Bernina 
models, except perhaps the 1630.  When I was in the shop for a demo on the 
1630, the dealer said any of my present feet with the white strip behind 
the needle would fit the 1630.  I am assuming this is true of the other 
models as well.  I was also told that if my walking foot rode on top of 
the feed dogs, it was a good fit.  I haven't tried it with a 1630, but I 
will if I purchase a new machine.  To make sure, take a couple of your
favorite feet with you when shopping for that second machine.  The 1630 
is the only machine with the wider-stitch capability and some if the feet
have sensors to allow the needle to make that wide stitch.  If I were 
isolated from a dealer (mine is 5 minutes away and does repairs on the 
spot) I would definitely want a second machine.  He says the newer 
machines require more frequent adjustment.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:33:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book

I would like to second the recommendation for Jan Saunder's book, "Teach
Yourself To Sew Better -- A Step-By-Step Guide To Your Bernina." It includes
Berninas up through model 1230. Especially useful are the last chapters,
"Encyclopedia of Stitches and Presser Feet." You will find many suggestions
for how to use all those stitches (mostly practical applications, not so much
decorative) and what all the feet are good for.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:56:34 -0400
Subject: NH Quilt shop
>Hello all - 
I was in my local quilt shop yesterday, and overheard two 
others speaking of a quilt/fabric shop in the Lake Winnepisauke 
(sp ?) region of NH...Something like "Quilters Corner ?". 
Anyway - they are supposed to be huge, be open 7 am - midnight, 
and have a wonderful catalog...someone walking in and 
picking out 200 + bolts for fat quarters to be cut on the spot didn't 
even phase them... 
Sounds like time for a roadtrip, or at least a phone call for their 
Can anyone help with the correct name and/or location of this 
shop ? 
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 09:31:06 -0700
Subject: Looking for a reversible skirt zipper

I know this is the Bernina list, but you are all so helpful, I was hoping I
could intrude a little.  I am making a reversible pleated wool skirt, and
naively expected to pick up a reversible zipper at the local fabric store;
however, no one seems to carry such a thing!  75 miles away, I understand
they have something reversible, but it is heavy duty like for a sleeping
bag.  Does anyone know where I might find a lightweight reversible zipper?
Also, if you know of a more appropriate list, please reply with its email

BTW I have really enjoyed lurking on this list.  A lot of terrific
information passed back and forth!  I have had an 830 for 19 years and it
was a dream to sew on until a needle broke and somehow damaged the bobbin
mechanism.  Now it skips stitches in a most irregular and frustrating way,
mostly when sewing in a slow, stop-start manner, like turning a corner, etc.
I have had it in to the shop several times, but it still is ailing, poor baby.  

TIA for any information...psb

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 14:36:10 -0500
Subject: Re: 1530 vs 1630 buttonholes

I am curious.  What is a buttonhole twist?  I love my 1630's buttonhole 
capability.  I love getting that buttonhole just right and then memorizing
it so I can turn out the others with no effort at all and they all look so
uniform.  I think I have some fixation with nice-looking buttonholes.  I can
say that it was being able to memorize the buttonhole and the monogramming
that made me buy the 1630.

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 13:51:50 MDT
Subject: cub scouts

What amazing timing!  I am a new den leader for a tiger cub group 
(that's the first graders) and just before my first meeting Robbi 
posts neat info on how to sew badges etc.  Thanks a lot!

Robbi,  you also mentioned a den flag? I've heard about these,
but haven't seen any yet.  Does anybody have any suggestions on
new and interesting ways to make these?  As you can tell, this
is my first experience with all this and it is a bit overwhelming.
Thanks for any and all information-


Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 18:20:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Babylock Serger


I have no knowledge about Babylock sergers but I want to comment on the
convenience of not having to change the stitch plate. I own an old Bernina
serger that needs the stitch plate and presser foot changed when you do a
narrow roll hem as well as a 2000DE  that is simple to change. GO FOR THE
CONVENIENCE!  You have to change plenty of things (tensions, length, removing
left needle and unthreading) to do a narrow roll hem without having the added
bother of stitch plate and foot changing. Narrow roll hemming is one of the
most popular features of sergers because it is so fast, easy and pretty.

Hope this helps - Francyne
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 16:27:42 -0700
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book

You wrote: 
.. One thing that I particularly liked doing was gathering using cord 
with the #3 buttonhole foot..... Do you have that stitch?  Which number 
is it?


On the 1130, it is stitch #7.

I hope this helps!!


Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 19:31:28 -0400
Subject: 1230 missing stitches

On the 1130 you used stitch #7 (gathering stitch)  but the 1230 does not have
this stitch. It was removed to make room for the keyhole buttonhole. Don't
despair however because you can create this stitch by using stitch #16
(feather stitch) with a length of 0 and balance +25. (See how great fantasy
stitches are?)

Another stitch which the 1230's are lacking is the sewn out zigzag. You can
create it by using stitch #11 (honeycomb stitch) with a lenth of 0 and
balance +25.

Happy gathering -Francyne 
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 18:15:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book

The stitch you are looking for is called the gather stitch on the 1130 it 
was taken off to make room for the keyhole button hole.  It can be 
duplicated with the following instructions:

On the 1230 choose  stitch #16 
stitch length 0
Press the + balance button 25 times

Stitch #16 is the feather stitch

\_  _/\_  _/\_  _/\_
  \/    \/    \/    \

It looks something like the above.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 22:31:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Phone # for Madeira Thread


As you requested, the number to call for the Madeira sample kit and price
list is 603-528-2944.  They sent me three spools of thread and a bunch of
brochures.  You can also view their page on the internet by searching for
"Madeira" or I think the address is HTTP://WWW.STOCKO.COM/SFG/MADEIRA.HTML.

I plan to order some thread based on the feedback I am hearing.  

Date: 19 Sep 95 00:01:52 EDT
Subject: Babylock Serger


If you watch, Bernina quite often runs their lower end sergers for about$299.
And it doesn't have to have the plate removed to make a rolled hem.  Flip of a
switch, remove one needle, that's it.  Also, Bernina sergers take the same
needle as your sewing machine.  Also, don't be so sure that they won't take your
BL as a trade in.  Ask before you jump to that conclusion.  My dealer takes any

Date: 19 Sep 95 00:01:55 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/16/95


I don't believe you will hear anyhting about a new machine because the idea of
the 1630 is that it is upgradable, and that is what they will be doing instead
of coming out with a new machine, that's what I was told by to dealers I know.
That's why I traded up from 1130 to 1630.  Plus what your Deco does is not what
your 1630 does.  I also have a dedicated embroidery machine, and got it before I
got my 1630.  The 1630 is able to make designs that you can do like continuos
edging stites.  Although you could do something like embroidery it wouldn't be
like what you get from your Deco, because your Deco has a hoop that guides every
stitch for placement.  And if you did embroidery on your 1630, you would have to
put in EVERY stitch.  Do you really want to do that?  I don't think so.  For a
design that you can do continously down the front of a blouse? Probably yes.  

Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:50:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Mr. Zimmerman

             I am wondering if you have a wonderful dealer only 5 min away
why you would not support them with your business? How do you think they stay
in business if you go for price and just go to your dealer for education and
Bernina Club?        I know everyone is looking for a bargin but I think we
have to support our small bus. folks or we will be buying machines and
everything else in Walmart. Just a thought.....Pat R
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:29:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Applique Lessons
     Hi Liz, I taught in Tampa, Pakistan and Japan.  I just went back to 
     work so I am no longer teaching (I barely have enough time for my own
     quilts:(.)  I would be happy to show you how next time you are in the 
     area. We could also try doing some of the instructions via 
     eMail.  First of all what types of things do you want to do with it?
     What type of fabrics do you usually use.
     For me, I wanted to design my own pictorial quilts and piecing them 
     was to HARD and I was apt to make mistakes and the quilt wouldn't lay
     Sometimes I feel that the machine technique that I use is just so easy
     it isn't even quilting.  I draw my design out (usually just 3 x3) and 
     then trace the pattern on to freezer paper.   Cut the freezer paper 
     pattern out, iron it to the right side of the fabric, cut the fabric
     out adding 1/4 inch seam allowance (doesn't have to be accurate seam 
     allowance). I then use fabric glue to baste back those seam
     allowances.  It is easy to get smooth curves because the freezer paper
     is a crisp guide.  Be careful not to use to much glue it could seep 
     through to the right side of the fabric. Iron the piece, it stiffens
     those edges so that while you are sewing and handling the fabric, it
     keeps its shape.  Pin it to the background fabric and sew it down 
     using a hem stitch.  Adjust the hemstitch to be very short and very 
     narrow (just reaching into the appliqued fabric) I forgot remove the
     freezer paper before sewing.  I will get back to you on which foot and
     the actual stitch width and stitch length.  Most of this technique I
     got from Harriet Hargraves' Machine Applique.  The book was to books in 
     one. One is the button hole applique method which I hate. and the 
     other is called something like mock hand applique.  Let me know if
     this helps at all. and just let me know if you have any questions.
Date: 19 Sep 95 09:48:02 EDT
Subject: Albuquerque Bernina

IMHO The Albuquerque,NM Bernina center provides top notch customer service! If
anyone is trying to choose a dealer in this area, I will be glad to pass on my
opinions in email.
A satisfied customer(no affiliation).
Julie G
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:40:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Older Berninas

The 830, 930, and 1120 are all excellent machines, although the prices you
quoted seem a bit high. I just bought an 830 for my daughters to learn on,
for $350. It sews beautifully, with straight, zig-zag, blind hem, and some
satin-type decorative stitches. (I recently took it to a free-motion
embroidery class, and it kept up with all the top of the line Pfaffs that
were there.) It does not, however, have any "tri-motion" stitches; the back
and forth kind you would use for seaming and overcasting. For that, you would
need the 930 and up. The 930 also has an electronic foot pedal, that you can
tap for needle down (in later models). Otherwise the machine always stops
needle up. The 1120 is a computer machine, with all of the features and more
stitches than the two models previously mentioned.

I don't know how many "bells and whistles" you feel are necessary for your
lessons, or how much price is a consideration. You really can't go wrong with
any of them; however the Blue Book price on the 1120 is higher than the other
two. Hope this helps.......
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 15:44:40 -0400
Subject: dealerships

Hi all,

After lurking in the BFC for about 6 weeks and reading the horror stories
about dealers, I have to put in my two-cents worth.

Petchy has made mention of a dealer in Rochester, NY that she visited this
summer.  That dealer is Linda Fellows of the Bobbin Case here in Roch.  She
is everything that Petchy said and more.  I am somewhat of a novice sewer and
purchased a 1630 and the 2000 DE from her.  The guide lessons are unlimited
(until I get it right) and I never feel I can't go in the shop with any
question.  Linda (and Mimi and Shirley) are most helpful.  

Every month we have Bernina Club where Linda follows a guide from Bernina and
we hear about new products.  The emphasis is on a new foot each month.  In
addition to Bernina Club she has 1630 club every other month (because those
of us that have 1630's can do so many things others can't) and every other
month she has serger club.

That's my two-cents, but if there is an award for dealers she gets my

Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 16:34:22 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: All dealerships are not created equal!

Actually, I mentioned car dealerships from the point of view of the 
consumer, not the dealer.  I do understand that Bernina dealers have a 
lot more invested.  But, list price is incredibly flexible when buying a 
machine, at least at the different sewing machine dealers I visited in 
Austin.  Mentioning that I was looking at a competitor who had a lower 
price was enough to get several hundred knocked off the price, even tho 
what I was looking for was an explanation of the differences between the 
machines.  Since the only other time I've had a salesman do this was when 
I was buying a car, it sorta stuck in my mind.

Date: Tue, 19 Sep 95 23:43:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Dealships &Quilting Stitc

Well said, keep it up!
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 19:28:56 -0500
Subject: Re:  Quilting Stitch

>Now, on to sewing with our machines.  Someone wanted the settings for the
>1530 and the quilting stitch.  They are as follows:

Judy - Would you happen to have the setting for an 1130 for the quilting
stitch, too?  I'd really appreciate it!

Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 21:10:43 -0400
Subject: Re: DECO Embroidery Cards

I am looking to buy some DECO/Brother embroidery cards.  Does anyone know if
the Mr. Zimmerman everyone mentions sells them at a good price?  Also, are
the cards sold only under the Brother name or are they available through
Bernina dealers too?  I am confused as to what cards are available from who.
 Are there any cards only available through Bernina dealers?

Any information would be appreciated.

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 00:05:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/17/95

Definitely go for the Japanese made serger - even if you don't get  a specific
feature for it.  Sometimes there are inferior goods made on the Taiwan products
that won't hold up. All sergers are made in Japan, with the exception of the
Bernina 2000 (DE and DCE) which are made in Switzerland. 
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 00:13:38 -0400
Subject: Re: retreats

Is ther anyone out there that is from the Atlanta area that knows about a
quiet out of the way place, a cabin or inn where a small group of quilters
could have a quilting weekend.
If a quilt shop is near by if would be even better.

Thank you.

Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 23:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Bernina 807

Hi... I am looking for anyone whom has a Bernina 807
and would like to share any information and expertise
on this machine. I am at DBCELT@NCAL.KAIPERM.ORG and
my name is Esther Tsang at (510) 926-3964.  Please
write to me, and I would really like to get an owner
operating manual if anyone may share a copy.   Thanks.
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 10:21:54 BST
Subject: 930, and a question

Dear Everyone.  I have a Bernina 930 and can't tell you how 
it is better or worse than any other as it is the only 
Bernina I have owned but I can tell you I LOVE IT and it is 
a treat to sew on it.  The other thing is a dumb question 
but... what is a "serger"?  What does it do?  Why does 
everyone want/have one?  Thanks.  All the best from Alita   
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 09:11:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 1530 vs 1630 Buttonholes

Dear Lorrie:  Buttonhole twist is a heavy-duty thread.  Other threads 
would serve the purpose as well.  Don't know about the buttonhole foot in 
the newer machines--in my machine you loop the twist around the prong at 
the front of the buttonhole foot and leave two long tails under the foot 
and out the back--long enough to hold onto.  Make the buttonhole so that 
the zigzag of the stitching covers the twist but doesn't pierce it.  
After the buttonhole is stitched, pull gently on those tails at the back 
to make the loop at the front disappear, then cut the tails off.  You 
have, as a result, a strengthened buttonhole with more prominent ridges.
Choose a twist, or thread, in a color compatible with the garment fabric.
I can see that the 1530 or 1630 buttonhole might pierce the twist on the 
right side stitching, but that would still leave the left loose and you 
would be able to pull one tail to make the loop disappear.  I 
know this is confusing as written--perhaps your dealer or a 
friend could demonstrate.  It's a valuable technique for jacket-weight 
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 09:03:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: NH Quilt Shop

It's Keepsake Quilting, in Centre Harbor.  And it *is* terrific!

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:06:09 -0600
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book

Is there an equally good book for the 1260?  Mary
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 10:11:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: NH Quilt Shop

Bambi - The quilt shop you referred to is probably Keepsake Quilting, Route
25B, P.O. Box 1618, Centre Harbor, NH 03226-1618. Phone no. is 603-253-8731.
No 800 number that I know if, but I don't have their latest catalog. I don't
know their hours, but the catalog says they're open 7 days a week.

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 10:15:07 -0400
Subject: Re: NH Quilt Shop


The store I think you are referring to is Keepsake Quilting.  It is a
wonderful place, I was just there in August and spent several hours
there it is almost mind boggling just how many botls of fabric they
have, plus quilts on display and all sorts of other goodies!
It is worth the trip.  You can also get there catalog by contacting
them at:

                        Keepsake Quitling
                        Box 1618
                        Center Harbor, NH   03226-1618

                        Tel  (603) 253-8732

Hope you are able to visit them or at least send for a catalog.  You won't
be disappointed.  Also the staff are always more than helpful when either
calling them for customer service or visting the store.

Let me know how you like it!!

Happy Quilting!

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 10:05:12 -0400
Subject: Re: NH Quilt Shop

 Rt 25B
P.O. Box 1618
Centre Harbor, NH 03226-1618.
I am told there store is great, but have not been there.  Their phone # is
 603 253 8731
Wish they were closer!
Date: 20 Sep 95 11:29:15 EDT
Subject: Back from vacation!

Please reinstate me ASAP!  Missed all of the great input, but had a wonderful
vacation.  For all of those who asked me about ordering the bias binder plastic
foot-I am still waiting to hear from my dealer, but will post the info as soon
as I hear.  Pat
Subject: Re: 1530 vs 1630 Buttonholes 
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 95 08:34:21 -0400

Yes! The ability to memorize and exactly repeat buttonholes is one of
my favorite things about my 1630.  For some reason, buttonholes are
scary to me.  It is so nice to be able to practice on some scrap
(layers and interfacing to match the garment where the button hole
will be) until the size and style are a perfect match to the button.
Then I can measure twice (or three times, I have this fear about
putting the buttonholes in the wrong place and ruining my work beyond
the possibility of rescue by the corrective forces of creativity) and
run off perfect buttonholes in no time.

Buttonhole twist is a very heavy thread.  It is almost as thick as
lightweight crochet cotton.  More often than other kinds of thread,
buttonhole twist can be found in silk.  Yummy!

Debbie D
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 11:57:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book

In a message dated 95-09-20 07:58:40 EDT, you write:

>I would like to second the recommendation for Jan Saunder's book, "Teach
>Yourself To Sew Better -- A Step-By-Step Guide To Your Bernina." It includes
>Berninas up through model 1230. Especially useful are the last chapters,
>"Encyclopedia of Stitches and Presser Feet

Is there a book that covers the 1530 yet?  The manual is next-to-useless.
Subject: Parsons Cabinet
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 95 11:24:00 PDT

Liz -- I have not seen the cabinet you are thinking of, but I have a Parsons 
cabinet that I've had for about 10 years. It is good quality, but now that 
I've taken up machine quilting, I find myself wishing for a larger table, 
especially with table space behind the cabinet.

 When I have a large quilt to quilt, what I do now is move the cabinet out 
into the middle of the room and put card tables up on books to make them the 
same height as the cabinet surface both to my left and behind the machine. 
What a pain! Last time I left my sewing room in disrepair for a month until 
I completed the quilting. But if you have limited space, and/or  want to 
hide the machine when not in use then it may be worth it.

The other problem I have when the machine is set down into the cabinet is 
getting at the bobbin, and attaching the kneelift. There is a hinged panel 
on the front of mine that supports the flat surface, and I had to drill a 
hole in it to allow the kneelift to be used. Then when I need to change 
bobbins, I must either wriggle my hand into the gap after lifting out the 
flat surface (which is kindof tough if you have the walking foot on), or 
disconnect the kneelift and fold down the front panel on the cabinet. Either 
way its somewhat disconcerting. When I bought my 1090 a couple years ago, I 
was seriously looking for a machine with a top-loading bobbin just because 
of this problem. But you can't have it all, so I settled on the Bernina and 
live with the contortions. In short, if you have the space, for quilting I 
would go with a bigger table instead of a cabinet. 
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 11:25:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/18/95

I have what I hope is not a dumb question.  I bought a 1090 model in August,
and I just LOVE it.  On my old White machine,  I had a magnet strip to catch
pins off to the side of the presser foot.  Can I do that on this Bernina
without goofing up anything because of the magnet?  Can I wave a stronger
magnet pin catcher over the area to pick up the pins with out hurting
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 16:03:32 -0400
Subject: ITS HERE!!

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (jumping up and down for joy)

My 1090 came in today.  I'm ecstatic - We were told it wouldn't ship until
tomorrow.  I expected another week at least.

Now to rearrange the sewing room and pull that toy machine I bought the baby
out of the cupboard. . . . .

Later folks I've got a machine to get aquainted with. .

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 19:18:26 -0400
Subject: Re: NH Quilt Shop

Keepsake Quilting
Rt 25B
PO Box 1618
Centre Harbor, NH 03226-1618
1-800-865-9458  (24 hours, 7 days a week)

Summer hours through Sept. 5 were
Mon-Thurs 9-7
Fri - Sat 9-8
Sunday 9-6

Wonderful shop (I was there last month) and a wonderful catalog. Call them
for a catalog right away!! By the way - New Hampshire has no sales tax and if
they are out of something when you are there, they will ship it with no
shipping charges.

I have no affiliation with this business - I am just a very happy customer.

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 95 23:20:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Mary Lou Nall Books for Be

If it has not been 30 days, most dealers will give your money back in that
time span, I am sure she would be willing to trade with you, but you would
have to have all the reasons as to why you don't like it in hand.
I hope it words out for you.
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 20:47:57 -0400
Subject: Dirt on Bernina 930

For Elaine J:

You inquired about the characteristics of a 930.    I've had one for about 10
years, and everyone is probably sick of hearing about how much I've enjoyed
it, but here goes a plug for the 930 (!):

The 930 was the top of the line machine at one time.  It is a heavy duty
machine, very pretty, with a two speed motor.  The machine has a button holer
which consists of putting on a buttonhole foot and rotating a dial around the
five step buttonhole process.  The machine makes square edged buttonholes.
 The 930 has a great basting stitch which I use a lot.  It has a good quality
straight stitch.  It has about 20 other stitches, about half of the utility
type and half decorative.  Several of the stitches go back and forth when you
sew, for stretch applications.  I particularly like that the bobbin winder
has a hatch type cover on the top so the bobbin winder doesn't stick out.
 The machine has a knee lift, which I use every minute I've sewn, and also
has the needle down option.  In other words, you can just tap the presser
foot and the needle will go into the fabric in a down position.  This is a
REALLY nice feature, especially if you machine piece quilts.  The machine has
a really nice case which holds everything associated with it.  It is a free
arm machine, with a slide on table bed that will make the sewing area flat.
 The needle has a two positions available to the left and right of the center
position.  This works nicely with an edge stitch foot, I have used that one a
lot.  I also use a walking foot with the machine and it works well.  I have
had good luck using generic feet such as Nancy Z's Catalog sells - piping
foot, little foot.  

I have used my machine a tremendous amount for all kinds of sewing.  I sew
clothes for myself for work, I've done home decor stuff (drapes, curtains,
pillows, etc), crafts, quilting.  And it has stood up to everything.  

Instead of upgrading my 930 I have a really nice serger and just bought an
embroidery machine.  I think this will bring me to the modern ages!  So, I
plan to just hold onto it.  I would recommend this machine if it looks like
it will fit your needs.  I have a hard time justifying upgrading when I don't
think I've used all the stitches I've got!

Please let me know if you have any more questions.  I'd be glad to help.

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 21:01:58 -0400
Subject: Re:Mr. Zimmerman

Ervin Zimmerman
Hinkletown Sewing
232 Wanner Rd.
Ephrata, Pa 17522

Hope this helps.
Date: 20 Sep 95 21:52:05 EDT
Subject: NH Quilt Shop

I'm sure someone has told you already that it is Keepsake Quilting in Centre
Harbor. They have a mail order catalog but it doesn't prepare you for the store
itself. Plan to spend a couple of hours there, it's pretty overwhelming at
first. I made the mistake of going with my mother and her friend (both
non-quilters) but I was visiting them so what could I say? Stay home?  Anyway
after about an hour they were totally bored and I could have stayed all day.
There is a great front porch for vistors or husbands to just relax on while you
If you want to order the catalog before you go so you can have a preview peek at
all they offer, call 1-800-865-9458. It takes about two weeks to get it.

Have fun! I probably won't get back up there till next summer.

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 22:47:34 -0400
Subject: $3399 for a 1530?

A salesperson at a Bernina dealer in my area (the first I've actually looked
at) quoted me $3399 for a 1530.  This seems really high.  She did say that
there was going to be a pre-Christmas sale starting in November, but didn't
know what the sale price would be.  What kind of price should I expect to pay
for this machine?  I'm not going to drive a hundred miles or mail order from
Timbuktu to get the absolutely lowest price available, but I don't want to
pay an unreasonably high price, either.  I would be interested in your
informed opinions of what a reasonable price range is for this machine.
Date: 20 Sep 95 23:31:28 EDT
Subject: NH Quilt Shop


The NH quilt shop is Keepsake Quilting, in Centre Harbor NH:
P.O. BOX 1618

PH: (603) 253-8731
FX: (603) 253-8346


The place is huge and fun.

Ginny J
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 01:06:53 -0400
Subject: Deco Embroidery Cards

 Deco, Singer and Brother embroidery machines are all made by the same
company...Brother. What fits one will fit the others. The difference in the
machines is some of the patterns that are built into the machines. Also the
prices on the cards.... Bernina and Singer sell theirs for $89.00, Brother
sells the very same cards for $79.00. I find this price difference very
strange since Brother is sold by local dealers the same as Bernina. TTYS,
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 05:09:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book

Wow, Edith,
You are good, I didn't realize that was the stitch she was wondering about
and when I saw  your drawing, I thought, now I know why that stitch wasn't
there.  Thanks, I had missed it to.  I appreciate knowing how you got that
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 05:09:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/17/95

thats odd, my bernie dealer told me that bernina sergers were made by Juki.
Can someone clarify this for us.  I will check again if not.
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 20:41:31 -0700
Subject: Re: NH Quilt Shop


The store is called Keepsake Quilting. You may know their catalog. They are
located on Route 25B, Centre Harbor, New Hampshire 03226.

Their phone number is 603-253-8731.

I'm not sure about their hours but they are definitely the store you heard
about. They are located on the north shore of Lake Winnespesake. They are
huge. I casually stopped in one day and ended up spending $150 before I
left. It is quilter's heaven!


P.S. I just ordered my mother's birthday present from them and they were
more than happy to send it to her directly in Canada. They sure do
understand customer service.
Subject: Quilting Stitch??
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 0:43:45 PDT

> >Now, on to sewing with our machines.  Someone wanted the settings for the
> >1530 and the quilting stitch.  They are as follows:


I am the one wanting this info for the 1530.  But nothing ever followed.
Could the person that posted this please do it again?  Thanks much.  :0}
Jean P
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 07:01:40 -0400
Subject: TV, Movies &Bernina

I just read that the Bernina 1031 will be in the upcoming feature film, "How
to Make an American Quilt" from Amblin Entertainment (a Steven Speilburg
production company), based on the poopular novel of the same name by Whitney
Otto.  The film is scheduled for a Christmas season release and it stars
Winona Ryder among others.  I've seen the advertisements for this movie and
it looks as though it is going to be good.

Also, the 1630 and the 1001 will be on "Picket Fences".  It will be shown on
Friday,  September 29th.

I got this information off of a flyer that I received from my local Bernina
dealer.  I couldn't remember seing this posted already, so I thought I'd send
it along if anyone is interested.

Have a great day!   :-)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 07:38:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/19/95

Bambi asks about a quilt shop in NH ...

I think she may mean Keepsake.  Fabulous place on Route 25 at Center Harbor.
Wonderful selection of fabrics (some 5000 bolts) and quilts for sale as
well.  Worth a trip, especially when fall colors are coming along.  

BTW, for those of you who do not know about PineTree Quiltworks ... E-mail
me for a free catalog chock full of quilting notions of all types at a 20%
discount.  Not for a moment does PineTree take the place of Keepsake!
You've got to see that place to believe it!

Subject: Bernina club survey
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 07:53:02 -0400

After hearing many people on this mailinglist say that their dealers
charged nothing or a nominal fee (maybe $25/year) for Bernina club, I
told my dealer about this and suggested that perhaps her $100/year
charge was high.  Well!  Her response was to tell me that the Bernina
clubs that are so much less expensive than hers "probably meet around
a kitchen table, you wouldn't like it."  

Good grief!  This reminded me of the time the car salesman asked me
why I was trying to bargain with him over the price of a new car.
"When you go to a department store to buy a dress, you don't try to
bargain about the price, do you?"  Why do some people feel they can
get away with treating you as if you were stupid and dependent on them
for any facts?

I admit to feeling insulted and annoyed.  However, the best way to
negotiate a price is with irrefutable facts.  I rather suspect that
most Bernina Clubs are more-or-less like my dealer's: some number of
sewers meet once a month in a space in the store that is set up to
accomodate demos or classes.  But that's only what I suspect, not
something I know for sure.  

I'd like to ask your help in collecting some facts about Bernina Club
around the country to present to my dealer and share with everyone
here on the mailinglist.  Perhaps you will hear about a wonderful
Bernina Club in your area, or good ideas for your club.  Or perhaps,
like me, you'll want to share the results with *your* dealer.  The
best way to keep local dealers in business is to help them to provide
the good service that we all want.

If you'd like to help, please fill out the following survey.  I'll
post the results in a week or so:

Bernina Club Survey

Name of dealership (optional):
Location (town/city, state):
Number of meetings each year:
Cost per year:
Location of meeting (e.g. in store, at local church or high school, in
  someone's home)
Approximate number of people at a club meeting:
Length of club meeting (hours):
Typical activities at club meeting (e.g. guest speaker, demo, hands-on sewing):
Typical topics of club meetings (e.g. instruction in use of machine
  and accessories,  fashion sewing techniques, quilting techniques,
  home decorating projects, fabric embellishment, ...)
Describe sales promotions at club meetings:
Describe any additional benefits to Bernina Club members (e.g. free
  lessons, discounts on purchases outside of meetings, etc.)?  
Is your Bernina club well-organized with adequate facilities?
Do the programs at meetings match your needs and interests?
How do you feel about the charges (if any) for joining (would be
  willing to pay more, just right, too high)?


Debbie D
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 08:50:41 -0400
Subject: Gathering Stitch on 1230:  sure thing!

Judu ( wrote

When I got my 1230 (after owning a 1090), I was surprised to see that they
had 'taken away' the gathering stitch (silly, my 1230 is 4 yrs older than my
1090 was...:)

Well, my approach with technology in general is 'don't let the machine give
you NO for an answer'.  So I monkeyed around with the 1230's stitches and
looked for candidates that could be reshaped to a gathering stitch...


See that feather stitch?  well, give it +30 (I've gone to +35) and guess
what?  gathering stitch is back.

Note: that by using such a large positive balance increase, the stitch
length setting becomes irrelevant.  You can actually get the gathering
stitch with a stitch length of zero. This incidentally means that you have
less (actually little) stitch  length control on your gathering stitch.  Not
as good as a bonified gath. stitch but better than none :)

Good move!

Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:05:02 -0400
Subject: Mr. Z. and Madeira 

The address and phone number for Mr. Zimmerman is: 
      Mr Erwin Zimmerman (Mennonite farmer &Bernina Dealer) 
      Hinkletown Sewing Machines
      232 Wanner Rd.
      Ephrata, Pa  17522          Tel:    717 - 354-0204

The toll free number for Madeira Threads is:   1-800-225-3001

When I called they were very nice and courteous. The lady I talked to said it
would help when you call to have the name and # of your machine. (1630. 1530.
etc.)  Also if and what kind of embroiderie machine that you have. This helps
them to put together the type or sample packet that will be best for your

Hope this helps with questions regarding Mr. Zimmerman and Madira thread.
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 20:46:35 EDT
Subject: Dealer Loyalty

To continue on with the subject of dealer loyalty, or not---

We had a wonderful Bernina dealer in our small town who offered 
classes, good technical service, quality notions, and a great 
atmosphere.  After three years, they closed because there was not 
enough business.  When they announced the closing, we all wished 
there was some way we could help to keep it open, but of course it 
was too late.  I know many of us, if we could have a second chance, 
would make every purchase we could at that shop even if it meant 
spending more.

On September 28th we are going to have the first meeting of a new 
sewing club which will be held at a local church.  The nucleus of 
this group will be from those of us who met at the former dealership. 
 We hope we can make it work, but it is difficult on our own.

So, the moral of the story is:  If you have a good Bernina dealer, 
support them in every way you.  Make all of your purchases from them. 
  If you don't have a good dealer, then by all means shop around for 
the best price.

Sandy H
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 15:07:31 -0400
Subject: Ruffler attachment

Regarding the recent discussions on the ruffler attachment, I have found a
booklet called Learning and Using your Ruffler; Basic Instructions and
Projects by Leota Black. She also has one on the Hemmers. These are not
Bernina specific; they are generic, but are very detailed in regard to the
use of these items because basically they perform the same way on any
machine. Your sewing machine dealer may have these booklets in stock.
Otherwise, you can contact the author at UltraDelight (the name of her
company), Rt. 1, Box 117, Wheeler, TX 79096. I do not have a phone number but
you might be able to get it from information, either under her name or that
of the company. As I understand it, she also has patterns she has designed,
as well as these books, so perhaps you would want to send a SASE to her to
get the whole listing.

Mary M
Subject: Deco 500 &Mr. Zimmerman
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 15:42:03 -0400

Hi, all.  Well, I bought the Deco 500 for myself today.  I got it from Mr.
Zimmerman who's shop is just up the county from me.  I mentioned the
Internet and the fact that we have been discussing him and he is aware of
it.  He asked me to please pass this message on to you folks.  He said that
he cannot do mail order, so please don't ask him to do so.  He is always
happy to see anyone in the shop and to make a sale, of course.  But he
thinks it would be better to support your local dealer rather than someone
from far away.  I personally think he has been catching some heat from other
dealers.  Also, they are members of the plain sect Old Order Mennonite.
Like the Amish, they are uncomfortable with stardom.  He just wants to be
thought of as a good Christian, a decent man and a good Bernina dealer, in
that order.  So, I guess the old bottom line is, buy from him if you are
here or at a quilt show, but he can't (and won't) sell mail-order.
BTW,  I can't wait to get my machine set up and play with it!
Margaret G
Subject: Re: 1530 vs 1630 Buttonholes
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 13:13:14 PDT

>I can see that the 1530 or 1630 buttonhole might pierce the twist on the 
>right side stitching, but that would still leave the left loose and you 
>would be able to pull one tail to make the loop disappear. piercing problem here, you can still pull both tails.  :0}
Jean P
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 16:39:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Babylock Serger

I went looking at sergers yesterday after hearing all the wonderful things
from all of you. I went to an independent dealer and he recommended Janome
over Pfaff. (He also told me my 1530 is made by Brother, not Bernina.  Is
this true?)   He recommended a 4 thread serger over a 5 also.  Does anyone
have a favorite serger or any recommendations?  The prices quoted seemed a
bit high (~$999) but I want a top end machine.  I've never even used a serger
before so don't know what I'm looking for except simplicity of use.  Also he
had a never been used Bernina 930 for $900.  This sounded high, too! 
Subject: Looking for Boston Commons pattern
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 13:23:29 PDT

Hi Everyoone;

I have a quilter friend who is not a computer person who has ask me if I
could locate a pattern and a description of a pattern called Boston Commons.
I am under the impression that Boston Commoms is similar to Around The World
except that the fabric pieces are oblong instead of square.

Any help would be appreciated, TIA,
Jean P
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 11:43:03 -0400
Subject: What to Do

Many of you may have seen my post on the wearable arts list, but I am
considering upgrading to the 1630 from my 830.  My biggest question at the
moment is:  Should I sell my 830 outright, trade it in, or hang on to it?
The dealer that I have talke to offered me blue book of $230 for my
machine.  I have the cut and sew attachment, the walking foot, and several
specialty feet.  With the instruction manual and the feet included in the
trade she is offering $350.  Is this a good price or should I haggle for
more?  Any input would be appreciated.  By the way, she offered the machine
for $2500 with the trade is that?

Peggy Q
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 22:33:30 -0400
Subject: Help!  I'm afraid of my new 1090 :-o

Hi all,

I thought after nearlly 2 mos on this list I'd be a pro the first day.  (yeah
right)  My  baby came home yesterday.  I have yet to sew a seam.  I've found
a few spare minutes to play but thats all.

My book seems kind of brief.  I have more questions now than when I picked it
up.  What are "fantasy stiches"?  Does it sew over pins?  Is that bad or ok?
 Does the 1090 take a double needle?  What would I need it for?  I do mostly
quilting lately but used to sew clothes before my second baby.  (like the
shock of going from a size 5 to a size 10 has made me completly confused as
to what looks good on me).  I am not sure when my guide class will be.
 Sometime in the next couple of weeks.

Any tips would help.


Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 22:57:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Club??

Jane - In response to your question re: other Bernina Clubs, we have a
fantastic dealer here who always has a wonderful schedule of events and
projects for our monthly meetings.  Basically, it's a demonstration of a
project that's done, which would be showing a new technique or using some new
"technology".  They usually then have kits made up - we've done stuff such as
heirloom sewing projects, cut work, applique on the bale cotton fabric, etc.
 This year's first meeeting will be the corrugated cardboard quilting.
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 23:25:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Quilting Stitch

Several people had also requested the quilting stitch for their 1130.
 Actually, the setting would be the same as I had posted for the 1530.  The
settings for the 1130 are as follows:

Feather Stitch #16
Stitch Width  0
Stitch length  4
Foot    #8
Balance   +2
Upper tension   7

Use monofilament thread in the needle, 50 wt. coton in the bobbin.  Top
tension must be tightened as shown above.

Hope this helps,
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 00:00:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina DECO Cards

Mr Zimmrman sells these card from 59.95 to 79.95.  I talked with his store
about them today.  I don't know if any of them are Brother Cards

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 00:00:54 -0400
Subject: Re: dealerships

It sounds to me like Linda at the just the kind of dealer I have
been trying to discribe and the kind of dealer that I had met at all the Bernina
functions that I attended in the 6 years I spent as a dealer.  The good ones
really out weight the bad 10 to 1.  There are always a few that spoil it for
many.  A really good shop like that is worth it's weight in Berninas and no
discount can compensate for what you will receive from them.
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 21:17:55 -0700
Subject: 1530 Price

Hmmmmm..... $3399 seems a bit high to me, too, but then I haven't priced
machines recently.  I bought my 1530 a little over 2 years ago (7/93) for
$1,950 and this INCLUDED a walking foot and a #37 foot (plus all the other
feet included).  The dealer also gave me a NEW ruffler attachment in
exchange for my old one.  I did have a trade-in, a Pfaff 1222 that was 20
years old and starting to fail (the Pfaff folks were having problems finding
some part that was gradually wearing down). I think (but don't quote me on
this) that the "list" price was somewhere around $3,400 or $3,600 at the
time I bought mine.  The local Everett, WA dealer is real good about
bargaining and they wanted my business and bid again another dealer in
Lynnwood (about 10 miles further south).

Hope this helps....sorry the info isn't more current.  On the bright side, I
have NEVER EVER regretted getting this machine!!!!  It was a bit traumatic
trading in my old friend the Pfaff, but it was time to update and I am
sooooooooo glad I did.  As others have mentioned, the buttonhole memory is
fantastic and I have yet to find a feature that I'm not happy with.

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 04:39:00 UTC
Subject: Deco Embroidery Cards

I got most of my cards from a guy named George in Las Vegas for under $70
each. Mr. Zimmerman sells them for about $75 each.
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 04:38:00 UTC
Subject: $3399 for a 1530

 I paid about $2700 for my 1530.
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 06:50:00 UTC
Subject: $3399 for a 1530

#3399.  is way too high.  I think some pay that for the 1630 actually.
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 07:08:17 -0400
Subject: Re: 930, and a question

Dear Alita,
A serger is also called an overlock machine.  It is a home version of an
industrial machine that uses one or two needles and two or three loopers, no
bobbins.  It is used to sew seams or to overcast seams that you have sewn
with a straight stitch.  They sew much faster than a conventional sewing
machine.  I do most of my sewing on my serger, but you can't do buttonholes
or most topstitching. You can do great decorative edges and rolled hems.  
I have a Bernina 334ds which has differential feed.  It prevents stretched
seams on bias or knits or will gather at about a 1.5:1 ratio. ( I was the
person doing skirts last week.)
There are much fancier sergers on the market, but I have had this one for
almost five years and it has been easy to use and very reliable.
Do you have any friends who own Connemara ponies?  They are my other hobby.
 I would love to hear from any one with Connemaras and internet access.
I guess you got the remains of the hurricains that missed us.  We are short
about 12 inches of rain this year but it's raining today
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 08:25:19 -0500
Subject: Re:  cabinet

I have not had my Bernina, 1530 very long (since June),and since I couldn't
afford a cabinet right now, I found a very nice table at Sam's store.  It
is 4 feet long and 2 feet deep.  It has folding legs and is adjustable in
height so I can put it at a comfortable level for me. I think it was about
$39.00.  I wouldn't mind having another one to use for cutting fabric.(if I
could keep it clear of all my stuff).

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 06:14:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Re [2]: Price on a 1630

I absoluth\ly agree with you.  My local dealer for years was Vienna Sew &
Vac.  I bought 1 machine from him and never heard another word from him.
 Classes? Support? HAH.  Now I go to Md Sew &Vac.  It's a 2 hour drive each
way, but I know I'll get what I want.  Good prices, fair trade, and my
questions answered.
I'm going to buy a deco 500 when I get the money.
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:17:17 -0400
Subject: Sale prices on machines

I would expect to get a 20-25% discount off full list on a machine during a

If money is tight, consider buying a demo which is often discounted more, or
if even tighter, but you want to get into a Bernina consider a used machine.
I bought a used serger and I am very happy I did so, because it turns out
that I don't use it much. I bought a 334ds, it's not that I don't like the
serger, I don't sew clothes very often. But when I use it, I am sure happy to
have it.

I would like to know if any of you have a light machine that you can take to
classes, besides a featherweight. I have a 1630, so I need something that  I
won't be annoyed by, but it doesn't need many features. I would like
something that can be left in trunk of my car between classes.Any ideas? 

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:20:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Club Survey

>If you'd like to help, please fill out the following survey.  I'll
>post the results in a week or so:

Can't contribute.  I bought my machine from someone who closed her shop the
day I purchased mine (good price, etc.)  Therefore, I am the most
under-educated 1630 Bernina owner around.  No one close enough to consider
going to their BC.

Liz T
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:19:04 -0400
Subject: Re: TV, Movies &Bernina

Hi Gang - I've never responded to my own post before, but when it came back
and I was scanning over it again I saw the typo "poopular" novel.  I laughed
out loud!!!!  It really was a typo cause I don't know the novel so I couldn't
say it was "poop".  Sorry....

Have a great day!
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:23:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Quilting Stitch??

Hi Jean,

Sorry you didn't get the rest of the message.  How dare it hide from you, but
never fear, I'll post it again.  :-)

Feather Stitch for the 1530 is G2/7
Stitch Width  0
Stitch length    4
Foot   #8
Balance  +2
Upper Tension   7

use monofilament thread in the needle, 50 wt. cotton in bobbin.  Top tension
must be tightened.

Hope it works for ya,
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 08:20:28 -0700
Subject: Re: Bernina Club Survey

>Bernina Club Survey
>Name of dealership (optional):GENIA'S
>Location (town/city, state):FARRAGUT, TENNESSEE
>Number of meetings each year:6 OR MORE
>Cost per year:$35
>Location of meeting (e.g. in store, at local church or high school, in
>Approximate number of people at a club meeting:20 TO 50
>Length of club meeting (hours):3 HOURS
>Typical activities at club meeting (e.g. guest speaker, demo, hands-on 
>Typical topics of club meetings (e.g. instruction in use of machine
>  and accessories,  fashion sewing techniques, quilting techniques,
>  home decorating projects, fabric embellishment, ...)
>Describe sales promotions at club meetings:ALWAYS BUT VERY INFORMATIVE 
>Describe any additional benefits to Bernina Club members (e.g. free
>  lessons, discounts on purchases outside of meetings, etc.)?  
>Is your Bernina club well-organized with adequate facilities?VERY

>Do the programs at meetings match your needs and interests?YES
>How do you feel about the charges (if any) for joining (would be
>  willing to pay more, just right, too high)?OUTSTANDING

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 09:43:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Bernina Club Survey

Linda's Sewing Center
Corvallis, Oregon
9 meetings per year
$30 per year
In the classroom of the store
about 20 people
Usually a demo, sometimes a guest speaker or trunk show
Mostly clothing construction or embellishment, sometimes home dec
No real sales promotion, other than showing new products
drawing for a 20% of coupon at each meeting, 1st crack at new merchandise
always well organized and the facilities are nice
since I only do clothing construction, the classes are just right for me
  also, I'm very interested in new products
I think it's a bargain.
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 12:48:18 -0400
Subject: Bernina book

WARNING!  The book that many of you recommended---A Step by Step Guide to
your Bernina by Jan Saunders--is out of print.  I was able to find a copy by
calling the publisher directly.  The publisher is Chilton in Radnor, PA; the
phone number is (610)-964-4000.  The list price is $ 19.95 and they charged
an additional $2.50 for postage and handling.  I expect there is also 6%
sales tax for people who, like me, live in Pennsylvania.  
  I don't know how many copies they had left, the woman I spoke to just said
"a few."
She said that I should have it late next week, just in time for a weekend of
fun .
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 09:56:50 -0600
Subject: Re: Dirt on Bernina 930

>has the needle down option.  In other words, you can just tap the presser
>foot and the needle will go into the fabric in a down position.  This is a
REALLY nice feature, especially if you machine piece quilts.  

I too have a 930 which I love - but not all 930s have the needle down
function (unfortunately mine doesn't) 
Betty S
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:33:51 -0400
Subject: Re:Price of 1530

The price you were quoted, over $3300, is high. I have been quoted prices
ranging from 1899 for a demo jodel to $2199 list price. Hope this helps.
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 15:39:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Club Survey

>Bernina Club Survey
>Name of dealership (optional):
Sew Biz
>Location (town/city, state):
Radford, Virginia
>Number of meetings each year:
10, one meeting time in the afternoon and repeated in the evening for
Bernina owners unable to attend during the day!
>Cost per year:
$25, payable aytime
>Location of meeting (e.g. in store, at local church or high school, in
>  someone's home)
In the classroom facility located within the store, wonderful large room
that can accommodate up to about 30 people seminar setting, but about 15
with machines and good working area
>Approximate number of people at a club meeting:
about 10, it really depends because of the two separate meeting times
>Length of club meeting (hours):
usually about two hours, but we sometimes linger after the fact and shop
around, Mary Ann is wonderful about not running us off until we have done
our shopping, too
>Typical activities at club meeting (e.g. guest speaker, demo, hands-on sewing):
at times a speaker, always a demo, we usually bring our machines and do
hands-on sewing from project kits, we are giving a supply list before the
meeting to assemble the packet or we can pick up the stuff at the shop
prior to the club meeting
>Typical topics of club meetings (e.g. instruction in use of machine
>  and accessories,  fashion sewing techniques, quilting techniques,
>  home decorating projects, fabric embellishment, ...)
The club is designed to teach how to use a special foot or accessory, to
try out new types of threads or sewing aids, or otherwise to expand sewing
>Describe sales promotions at club meetings:
We are fortunate to have three Bernina dealers within a 60-mile radius.
They all are competive with one another, and usually all run their sales at
the same time.
>Describe any additional benefits to Bernina Club members (e.g. free
>  lessons, discounts on purchases outside of meetings, etc.)?
Just this past weekend I attended a fashion shop and all attendees received
a 20% discount on anything in the shop (except the machines and classes),
it was good for an entire week.  As mentioned about, the prices are
competitive, but she will "deal" with you.
>Is your Bernina club well-organized with adequate facilities?
Very well organized.  And, if you are shopping for a machine, if you phone
ahead and they have the particular model of machine on their floor, you can
reserve the machine for club work.  That way you really get to give the
machine a trial run on a real project before you buy it.
>Do the programs at meetings match your needs and interests?
Yes, although I admit that I have been delinquent of late because I am
currently the owner of an 830 and most of the club members have much
higher-up machines.....I have the 1630 on my wish list.
>How do you feel about the charges (if any) for joining (would be
>  willing to pay more, just right, too high)?
Referring to the comment above, I would like to save as much money as I can
to apply to the 1630 so I would say that our fees are just right.
Peggy Q
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:46:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Second Machine

I had a 1530 before I bought my 1630.  All the feet that I bought for the
1530 work on the 1630, including the eyelet maker and the walking foot.  I
have purchased a new # 10 foot that is made specifically for the 1630.  
I have had the 1630 for 2 years and except for one problem a month after I
got it It has been great.
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 95 00:29:00 UTC
Subject: Deco 500 &Mr. Zimmerman

 A little correction on Mr. Z and mail order. He can't mail order machines
because of his dealer contract with Bernina. But he CAN and does mail order
accessories. He's happy to send feet, cards for the Deco 500, etc. I've
bought from him many times. He takes phone orders, and will accept Visa or
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 22:31:58 -0400
Subject: Re: LOL #12 foot

Question from a novice:  What's the difference between the #12 cording foot
and the #38 piping foot?  They both do piping, but if I were thinking about
buying,  it looks like I would be duplicating a foot and that my better
option would be to only buy the #12C for my 1630.  Can I have some feedback,
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 95 01:40:00 UTC
Subject: Help! I'm afraid of my new 109

 You definitely don't want to sew over pins. That's something they really
stress. And I played with mine quite a bit before I worked up the nerve to
actually make a garment. Those machines are kind of intimidating at first,
The books aren't very good, are they? They aren't really step by step and
the pictures aren't very good. I've done a lot of trial and error -- with
emphasis on the error.
Don't know about double needles, but I'd assume if the machine will do zig-
zag, the foot is wide enough to take the double needle.
Date: 22 Sep 95 23:48:26 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/20/95


The magnet that you stich to the sewing machine to catch pins is ok to use, it
will not mess up any of the computer components.  I asked 2 Bernina dealers the
same question when I bought my 1130, and then again when I bought my 1630.

Date: 22 Sep 95 23:48:23 EDT
Subject: Bernina Club Survey


The Bernina Club I belong to is in Glen Burnie, Md., aproximately 20-35 ladies
in my class, and she also has another one on Mon. night with about the same
amount.  They last 1 1/2-2 hours, they are usually demo type and she (the dealer
or another instructor) demo a foot or attachment with a tecnique.  What she
demonstrates that day you can purchase for 20% off and any notions used in the
process.  We also get 10% anytime we come to the store as a privelege of a
member.  10 meetings per year. some are Sit 'n' Sew . The club cost $50 per year
and if you pay in advance you get a $10 gift certificate. I have been sewing for
37 years and do so for a living, and feel the Club is well worth taking the time
out of my schedule, or I wouldn't go.  Seeing and sharing with other sewers get
your creative juices flowing.  It's in the back room of the store.  Shirley is
so good and so informative I would easily travel 50 miles to go to Club.

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 23:50:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Club Survey

In a message dated 95-09-22 09:11:19 EDT, you write:

>Name of dealership (optional):  Quilted Hearts
>Location (town/city, state):  Gainesville, GA
>Number of meetings each year: 12
>Cost per year: free with machine or $2.00 @ mo
>Location of meeting (e.g. in store, at local church or high school, in
>  someone's home)    in the store
>Approximate number of people at a club meeting:  8 - 10
>Length of club meeting (hours):  1 hr.  longer would be better.
>Typical activities at club meeting (e.g. guest speaker, demo, hands-on
>sewing):  demo sometimes disappointed
>Typical topics of club meetings (e.g. instruction in use of machine
>  and accessories,  fashion sewing techniques, quilting techniques,
>  home decorating projects, fabric embellishment, ...)    all of the above
>Describe sales promotions at club meetings:   yes,  the last time the demo
was 20 minutes and the promotion was 45 minutes.
>Describe any additional benefits to Bernina Club members (e.g. free
>  lessons, discounts on purchases outside of meetings, etc.)?    free for
new buyers
>Is your Bernina club well-organized with adequate facilities?    yes
>Do the programs at meetings match your needs and interests?  It's ok, but I
believe it could better.  More showing how and hands on would be a better way
to teach,  also it should be about two hrs. especially if the promotion is 45
>How do you feel about the charges (if any) for joining (would be
>  willing to pay more, just right, too high)?  would be willing to pay more
if the instruction was better.  too high for what we got.  I have drive for
one hr to get there

Date: 22 Sep 95 23:48:28 EDT
Subject: 2000 DCE Serger


I just bought the 2000 DCE and I love it.  You won't get the same look from a
double needle	
it's wider.  I tried this machine and also the Elna w/coverstitch.  I had heard
so many good things about the Elna I felt I had to give them both a test drive.
The Bernina took HEAVY denium as easy as it did tricot.  But the Elna's
coverstitch looks like a double needle(real close together) and when I gave it
denium it couldn't take it, not even thin denium.  It skipped stitches all over
the place.  Bernina never skipped one.  And when you use a coverstitch your hems
lay nice and flat.  They don't when you serge and then straight stitch(and then
they don't stretch).  I'll get off my soapbox.

Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 00:19:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Club Survey

In a message dated 95-09-22 12:17:06 EDT, you write:

>Bernina Club Survey
>Name of dealership (optional): Fabrics Unique
>Location (town/city, state): Williamsburg, VA
>Number of meetings each year: 12
>Cost per year: $150
>Location of meeting (e.g. in store, at local church or high school, in
>  someone's home) tiny room in back of store
>Approximate number of people at a club meeting:6-12
>Length of club meeting (hours):2-3
>Typical activities at club meeting (e.g. guest speaker, demo, hands-on
>sewing): demo and hands-on sewing, material provided for project involving
the foot/attachment discussed that month (hence the outrageous fee), discount
of the month's foot/attachment
>Typical topics of club meetings (e.g. instruction in use of machine
>  and accessories,  fashion sewing techniques, quilting techniques,
>  home decorating projects, fabric embellishment, ...) we did a scrunched
vest couched with decorative threads, an ultrasuede purse, some round tops
for jars, etc
>Describe sales promotions at club meetings:featured foot/attachment 25% off 
>Describe any additional benefits to Bernina Club members (e.g. free
>  lessons, discounts on purchases outside of meetings, etc.)?  10% discount
on very inflated prices
>Is your Bernina club well-organized with adequate facilities? so-so
>Do the programs at meetings match your needs and interests?sometimes yes,
sometimes no
>How do you feel about the charges (if any) for joining (would be
>  willing to pay more, just right, too high)? way too high!
>Comments: glad to leave the area!
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 95 03:54:00 UTC
Subject: Looking for Boston Commons pat

I know that the deco 500 is made by brother, but other than that,  All
sewing machines are made by bernina.  The embroidery features may be made by
brother tho, but for the most part, all bernina machines are made by Bernina.
Subject: Re: $3399 for a 1530
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 22:38:58 PDT

I went shopping with a friend visiting from another state today.  We priced 
the 1530 Bernina at $1750 which is about $300 less than I paid a year ago.
Yikes, even a 1630 should not cost that much money.  :-/
Jean P
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 02:20:03 -0400
Subject: Re: 930 Needle Down Position

For do you get your 930 to do the needle down????  When I touch
the foot pedal mine automatically makes one stitch and ends with the needle
up.  I just tried to "force" the down position, but could only do it when I
short cycled the stitch.  Please, please, please tell me how to do this since
it is my one greatest frustration with the 930...and yes, I bought it because
the needle would be in the UP position and now I want a choice...
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 01:36:02 -0500
Subject: Re: What to do

>Many of you may have seen my post on the wearable arts list, but I am
>considering upgrading to the 1630 from my 830.  My biggest question at the
>moment is:  Should I sell my 830 outright, trade it in, or hang on to it?

Peggy - I think part of the decision should be based on whether you take a
lot of sewing/quilting classes that require you to provide a machine.  If it
were me, I'd love to have another machine (I have an 1130) to haul to
classes.   It would be worth the $250 to me not to have to take my "baby"
everywhere I go!  Hope this helps!

Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 07:26:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/21/95

Sandy, you are right.  It is important to support your Bernina dealer.  You
never know when they could leave you.  I remember what it was like without
one and I would never want to go back to that again!
I'm still thinking about trading down to a 1530>  
Guess I'll be thinking about it for a while.

Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 08:48:21 -0400
Subject: Bernina's and magnets

Yes, you can use magnetic pincushions and seam guides on the Bernina. No
problem. The circuit boards are at the end of the machines by the hand wheel
so just be careful what you on that side. Any heat source such as a lamp
should not be used in this area because your circuit boards do not like heat
and they will make your machine do crazy things.

Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 10:21:35 -0400
Subject: Projects made with DECO

I would be interested in hearing about projects people have made with the
DECO, particularly ones that aren't necessarily for children.  I am trying to
get ideas for things to make, etc.  No kids, so that eliminates a lot of
potential uses right there!  However, my two dogs already have nice bandanas
with their names on them.......goodness knows that justifies the money I paid
for the Deco alone!!!(only kidding.....)
Any ideas you have would be very welcome.

Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 11:04:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Deco 500 &Mr. Zimmerman

Dear Margaret,
Yes, that does seem to be rain comming fron the west, we need it here, too.
 Last night we got a cold front and the temperature went from 90 yesterday to
in the 50's this morning.  And we did get rain.
I am anxious to know how you  and everyone else likes the Deco 500.  Do you
think the extra Bernina designs that are built in are worth it, as compared
to the Baby lock and Brother?  Are there any Christmas designs? Did you get
the scanner?  I have seen the Deco and scanner advertised here for $2300 or
 I think I just got my old job back and if so I will treat myself to one with
the profits, but I won't get it until the spring.  It's a seasonal job,
October to April, and so time consuming that there is no point in buying it
while it lasts.....unless I find a good sale
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 11:48:01 -0400
Subject: Oily 1090

Hi all,

I've had a chance to play w/my new machine a little.  When I start it up the
first inch or so of stiching looks like there is oil on the thread.  Is this
normal break in for a new machine??  I have NOT oiled it.

Has anyone else had this occur?  What do I do about it?


In rags - We pressure spray and paint the house this weekend....
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 1530 Price

I have not been doing too well in pricing a new machine either.  I 
believe the full price of a new 1630 is $3690, and the 1530 is about $300 
less.  So $3399 for a 1530 is probably just the full list price.  My 
dealer cuts that full price only on the basis of a trade-in, so she gave 
me the price of $2990 with my 801 trade-in.  If I want to deal locally, 
that will probably be it.  Another arrangement I could get would be to 
pay full price for the 1630 and she will throw in the serger--not the top 
of the line but I next to it.  Then I would sell my old Bernina 
privately.  I doubt I could get more than $300 for it.  It would also 
force me into a model serger I might not choose if I were to buy it 
outright.  I was told by a friend that she could have saved $200 by 
driving 100 miles away--hardly worth it when you would lose the service, 
lessons, and Bernina Club.  And they do give good service!  When I asked 
about future sales, she said this WAS a sale price.  So, while prices do 
seem to vary across the country, all in all, you come out about the same.
Furthermore, if I trade in my old serger separately, again, I would get a 
trade-in.  I am also reluctant about selling privately--ads in paper, 
people coming to the house, etc.  I'd like a quick, clean resolution to 
the whole arrangement.  Lucky are you who have more than one available 
Bernina dealer.  It would give you a choice some of us don't have.
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 95 15:49:00 UTC
Subject: 1530 Price

I paid $2700 for my 1530 machine this past April. I've seen prices cheaper
than that posted here and on GEnie, but not hugely cheaper. A few hundred
dollars maybe. I had a price list here that showed the list prices, but I
can't find it at the moment.
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 14:13:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Book

I happen to have the book in question, but I own a 1260.  I know the book
doesn't cover the 1260, but I wonder if the differences are significant
enough to worry about--or maybe if someone knows what I should look out for
they could tell me...TIA,
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 14:50:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/19/95


I just read your posting today.  I have a 1090 and love it also.  I was told
not to ever
use anything magnetic around my machine because of the computer.  If you hear
anything different let me know.

1090's are great.

Angel R
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 14:59:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Babylock serger

I have had my Bernina 334ds serger for 5 years It is EASY to use....I hardly
ever rethread the loopers and when I do they are easy to thread....And
tension adjustment is no problem....Most items take 5-5-3-5(the 3 is the
Wolly nylon in the upper looper)  I have used Sulky and ribbon thread in the
loopers with great success.  The rolled hem is easy...remove the left needle
and reduce the upper looper tension, increase the lower, and flip the lever.
It has been in the shop once....I wasn't watching what I was unscrewing! and
like the energizer bunny it keeps going and going and going!
The machine has been superceded by fancier machines so your dealer might have
one used that he took in trade.
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 14:50:39 -0400
Subject: Re: IT'S HERE!!

You are going to love your 1090.  I'm a proud owner since Feb. and mostly
quilt with mine.  It is wonderful.

Angel R
Date: 23 Sep 95 15:20:31 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/21/95

I promised you all that I would let you know about the plastic bias binder that
makes up to 1 inch plus binding, suitable for quilts.  My dealer is planning to
order it, but in the meantime I spotted it in the latest catalog from
Clotilde-Fall '95, page 7.  It is new to the catalog, costs $12.00.  Phone #
800-772-2891.  It looks exactly like the one I tried out.  Remember you will
need the long adaptor in order to use it on a Bernina.  It seemed to operate
smoothly on my 1630, but of course I did not actually try to bind a full size
quilt-just a block size quilt with a front, thin batting, and a back.  Hope this
helps.  Pat
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 16:57:43 -0400
Subject: Quilt stores in Toronto

I will be ging to Toronto in October. Can anyone recommend any good
quilting stores for me to visit? Appreciate any suggestions.

Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 17:40:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Help! I'm afraid of my new 1090 :-0


You really should be afraid of your new machine.  I have one and it's
Just put some fabric in it and go.  I first went through all of my stitches
the book.  It's a little vague but ok.  Be sure to take the class I found
them very
informative.  Don't be afraid to give your dealer a call with questions.  I
had to 
call mine recently and how to make buttonholes on polarfleece.  She was
helpful.  I'll try to help some if I can.  It's fun to have a new toy.

Angel R
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 95 22:24:00 UTC
Subject: Re: cabinet

For my 1530 I dug a computer table out of storage. :) I really like it. It's
almost square on top (about3-1/2 to 4 feet), with the little lowering
thingie for the keyboard. I put the machine on that, which puts it at a nice
height for sewing. Because the top is so big, it gives me lots of space to
spread my sewing out behind the machine. We've had it for several years, and
I don't remember how much it cost, but we got it at one of the discount
warehouse stores and I'd guess it was well less than $100 or I wouldn't have
bought it.
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 95 01:05:00 UTC
Subject: Re: TV, Movies &Berninas

Did you know that 2 berninas will be featured in the upcoming Picket fences
show next friday nite?
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 21:46:45 -0400
Subject: Re: DECO and Mr. Zimmerman

Do you know if Mr. Zimmerman will sell the scanner to the DECO?  I know he
won't mail order machines, but is a scanner considered an accessory or a

I just ordered the #1 and #8 cards from him and they were $74.00.

Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 22:15:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Help! I'm afraid of my 1090

Thanks Petchy,

The double needle thing is just a curiosity really....They mentioned it at
the shop but later I noticed the book says nothing about it.  Guess I'll find

I wasn't sure about the pin thing....years ago the "good" machines sewed over
pins.  Then more recently I have heard that it's a bad thing even if your
machine allegedly does so.....

I do love this machine...but it is a big BIg step up from my Kenmore.  (which
now has a loving home with my sister who used to come to my house to sew on
it.)  All the bells and whistles are a bit intimidating.  (wonder how long it
will take me to get up the nerve to touch my 1630 when I get it.......{thats
a couple years off tho})

Date: 24 Sep 95 00:39:31 EDT
Subject: RE: Dirt on Bernina 930

>> but not all 930s have the needle down function (unfortunately mine doesn't)

This is interesting. I have never heard of a 930 that does not have the needle
down function. On my 930 if I tap the 'heel' end of my foot peddle the needle
drops down. I must admit I hope your not reading this and thinking "well, I
should know my own machine". Could it be that you have a short in your foot

Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:13:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Basic Bernina Book

Get the Jacket Jazz books.  Very informative, give good information on
garment construction, and you come out with something you can use, plus good
quilt-related tips.
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 95 13:08:00 UTC
Subject: Projects made with DECO

 I've been thinking that I should put a big "P" on everything I own a la
Laverne on Laverne and Shirley. :>
One of the things I have in mind is the white grapeleaf motif on white linen
to create a wine bottle wrap (you know, when you take it out of the wine
bucket and it's dripping and cold).
Another is barbeque aprons done in denim and sewn with red thread. The
pattern I use has two big divided pockets (on the bib and at the belly) that
beg for an embroidered design. Some of the "juvenile" designs realy look
cute on these. There is a knife/fork/spoon design on one card that I like,
and other food items, etc. It only takes me about an hour or less to whip
one of these up and they make a most welcome gift.
Every day I think of something new I want to try with this machine. If I
didn't have to work, I'm sure I would have churned out a mountain of things
by now. Darn job really cuts into my creative time. :)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 95 13:08:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Deco 500 &Mr. Zimmerman

 I just got the Deco 500 and scanner very recently. I'm still very much in
the experimentation stage. I have purchased the optional hoops and most of
the cards (Brother and Bernina) available for it. I haven't worked my way
through all of the designs, but the ones I've used I've been thrilled with.
The ones built in to the machine are nice and there is a good variety. There
is a card of holiday designs that is really neat. The large floral card is
wonderful, but I haven't tried to use it yet. I'm chicken because it
requires rehooping on the large hoop to complete the designs, but very soon
I'll be tackling it. There is a grape leaf motif that I think would look
stunning in white on white linen as a wine bottle wrap. Others that are
great, too, but that's the immediate one I want to make as a gift for a wine
drinker friend.
I've made some outfits for my grandchildren and used it to put designs on
those. The outfits are just too cute for words. :)
The scanner is lots of fun, but everyone I've talked to on GEnie agrees that
the designs sewn from it take mega amounts of thread. The drawback is that
lines must be 9 mm (about 1 point on the pica/point system) in thickness, so
outlined designs have a very thick outline. Many times it's better to just
do designs with no outline needed.
Another hint is to use plenty of stabilizer. Depending on the fabric and the
coverage, sometimes it takes 3 layers of stabilizer to keep the design from
bunching. Also, it's important to hoop the fabric tight and well. Once my
fabric is in, and before I tighten it completely, I make sure that the
grains of the fabric are really straight before I tighten it.
Now, these things may be perfectly obvious to many, but without classes (I
bought it from Mr. Z and a friend picked it up for me) I've had to rely on
trial and error and the help of my friends on GEnie. So far, so good. I
really like it a lot and don't regret getting it. In retrospect, though, I
think I could have lived without the scanner. Maybe as time goes on and I
get better with it, I'll be glad I got it.
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:26:16 -0400
Subject: Re: cabinet

>For my 1530 I dug a computer table out of storage.

Great minds think alike on this!!  After buying my 1090, there was no way I
could afford a special cabinet.  And sewing on the dining room table was
getting a little out of control.  Family hasn't eaten there in months.  LOL

Went to Staples (office supply store) to pick up school supplies, and was
lucky enough to hit the jackpot!  Found a computer table for only $39.  Like
Petchy, it has the drop down keyboard area.  Fits the machine wonderfully.
 It's a smaller version of a banquet table, 3' x 5', so it has lots of room
for me when I start machine quilting. 
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 06:50:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: 930 Needle Down Position

The first 930's did not have the needle down option.  If your thread
cutter is not on the free arm cover.  (A small round silver thing above
the needle plate and to the left.) If you do not have this you probably do
not have needle down feature.  If you do press with your heel on the foot
control once and the needle should come down.  If not you will have to do
it by hand. 

Edith P
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 10:16:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Deco 500 decision

OK folks, I know I said that I wasn't going to do this now, but times do
Yesterday, I got my old job back.  It's considered seasonal, through April
17, but that's no problem as I live on a small farm and summers are busy.
Well at 20 acres it's a reall small farm, but I do most of the work for my
five horses(2 in foal) and the garden and contract mowing for the neighbors ,
and those 24 skirts for the color guard
So, today I get my Sunday paper and there is an add from my local dealer.
 Biggest sale ever!  No interest no payments for six months!  Six days
left!(closed Sundays...bummer)
Shall I go for it and buy the deco 500 and scanner?
What are Bernina's special built in designs and are they worth it?  My kids
are teenagers.  
Does it have Christmas designs or are they extra cards?
How much thread does it use?
Are the designs to heavy to use on t shirts?
Anyone do sweatshirts?  Towels?
I hear it is real slow.
The dealer that I call Local is actually 2 hours away so I would like to know
more before I schlep up there.
How do you save scanned designs?
You may perhaps be able to tell that I am excited...Too much good news for
one 24 hour period
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 10:52:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/23/95


         I owne a 1090   bernina  and love it too.I want to know about
hemmers ,I need it to hem  around my flags . Does anyone know if foot #63 is
what I need.Its ajustable? I fold on the sides 1" and the bottom 2". please
let me know 

Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 11:23:04 -0400
Subject: Re: 930 Needle Down Position

To get my needle down all I have to do is tap the foot pedal once and the needle
stops in the fabric.  It is interesting that on the 9/22 digest Betty wrote that
her 930 didn't have needle down!  So apparently not all of them came with that
feature.  So if you are looking for a used one this may be an important thing to
clarify before you buy it if it is a feature you want.  The funny thing is I
didn't have a clue about this feature when I bought the machine, so I really
lucked out since I have used it so much.
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 11:36:28 -0400
Subject: bobbin noise continued

Took my 1260 to a recommended service/dealer in our area (about 1 1/2 hours
away).  He poked at the machine and recommends replacing the gears and the
bobbin area itself (the part that holds the hook!).  He feels Bernina *will*
warranty the gears and *may* warranty the bobbin area.... I would have to pay

The other interesting thing was, I had just cleaned and oiled the machine
(wouldn't do to bring a dirty machine in, eh? :-D) and he re oiled it.  He
told me tht oiling it alone reduced much of the noise and that I could oil it
every 4-5 hours rather than the 8 you usually hear.  This really surprises me
since I had always understood that too much oil was just as bad as not
enough, not to mention messy.

So I brought it home to think about it and set it up last night to sew.
 Definitely quieter -- for about 2 hours.  Then noise appears gradually.  I
finally took it all apart and oiled with a reduction in noise.

Will be considering the replacement....Seems impossible that I bought this
machine in January.  Think I will go to my point of sales dealer and press
the point re the noise.
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 07:17:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: $3399 for a 1530

> Subject: $3399 for a 1530?
> at) quoted me $3399 for a 1530.  This seems really high.  She did say that

I think it's *awfully* high.  It's not the top-of-the-line anymore (that 
doesn't make it an inadequate machine. I love mine) and shouldn't command 
top-of-the-line prices.  Mine, on sale, was about half that.


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