Bernina Fan Club Archives

September 95

Sunday, September 10 - Saturday, September 16

Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 10:20:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Good price for Deco 500

I am shopping for a Deco, and have gotten a price of $1499 from a local
dealer.  Is this a good price?  Please email me if you
have any input.  Thanks.

Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:32:13 PDT
Subject: Feet

I have finished the 1835 suit I was making for my husband.  Now 
I sew for me!!  Well me and my daughter, I am making quilted 
jackets,  the instructor recommends a walking foot.  I have 
some friends who told me not to buy the Bernina foot but to go 
to a generic foot.  I thought I read here that the basic 
consensus was that Bernina feet were better than the generic 
feet.  Help!!  Please give your opinions,  I am interested in 
many feet, can I get by with the cheaper feet or do you get 
what you pay for with Bernina?
Name: Sue W
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 08:49:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Club??


When I started to read your post I knew who you were talking about right 
away.  Glenn and Liz were wonderful Bernina dealers.  There aren't many 
dealers like that anymore.  I am surprised that very few dealers do in 
house repairs.  When you first bought your 930 the first requirement to 
be a dealer was to have a work shop to repair and service machines in 
house.  Things have really changed.  

I am also surprised that customers will take it for granted that it will 
take 3-8 weeks to get their machines back for repairs.  Shame on Bernina.

Edith P
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 16:31:00 UTC
Subject: Scanner width line

 Thanks so much for the tips re: embroidery machine. I definitely will try
the nylon bobbin thread on top. I get myself in a box and think I have to do
certain things certain ways, and if they don't work I don't always look for
a creative solution. Especially when I'm just learning something, as I am
with the embroidery machine.
I have been always doing my drawings on the computer. Either modify existing
clip art, or scan other in with the ScanJet and modify it. I'm terrible at
tracing -- can't seem to keep the wobbles out. :) But your recommendation of
using the Pigma pens gave me the idea of printing out my artwork with a very
fine line, trying to Deco-scan that, and then with the pen keep thickening
the line until I get the minimum that the Deco will scan.
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 20:41:31 -0500
Subject: LOL - #12 foot summary to date

Hi Everyone, 

Mea Culpa. It was brought to my attention that when I said that we'd start the 
Lessons On Line w/ the #12 foot, I negleted to say what the #12 foot was.  Okay, 
the #12 foot is the cording foot and below is the information that has been 
received to date.  Now, for 2 more questions about the LOL.  First, the LOL are 
being posted and sent to everyone on this list, you do not have to sign up for 
another list.  And for those w/o access to the web, I'll be summarizing the LOL 
in a posting such as this.  Okay, so here's the 

#12 Cording Foot LOL Summary

I looked up the #12 foot and I even have one! I bought it to do mock
trapunto. You use a double needle, high loft batting and a fairly simple
design. It seems to work pretty well, and is much easier than regular
trapunto. Sue M.

LOL Foot #12
I've used the #12 to put on cording.  Use a stitch somewhat away from the
cord to make the cording, then come in a little to put it on the one side of
what you are puting piping on, then come in a little more to finally sew all
pieces together.  Sews almost automatically, and you don't see your first two
sets of stitches in the final piped seam.

Also have used it to put on thick fancy threads on the top.  I put the thread
through the cording area and then zig/zag over it.  The #12 helps the thread
you are puting on top to stay within the zig/zag track.  You can make fancy
decoration by using the decorative stitches while doing this too.  Also use
invisible thread if you just want to see the decorative thread, but you can
get interesting effects by using contrasting thread and fancy stitches too.

Barb M 

I have used the bulky overlock foot for making and attaching piping as
previously described.  The 1630 also has a coded foot equivelant (#12C).  This
foot has a larger cut out on the underside, so it can sew larger sized piping.
The footprint also aligns with the wider spread between the feed dogs.  It will
accomadate the larger interior decorating piping and cordings used for pillows
and such.

Another use I have found for the # 12 foot is to apply cross-locked beads and
pearls when doing embelishing on wearable art, also the satin cord
(rat-tail).  It feeds through the groove easily.  Use either monofilament on
top and regular thread in the bobbin or with the cord use a matching or
contrasting color rayon or metallic on top and a zig-zag stitch.  You can get
a neat effect using the satin cord and a contrasting color thread.  I always
turn the handwheel for a couple of stitches to make sure I am clearing the
beads and not hitting the foot.  Have fun.


Shall we go a few more days then start a new topic? last call for 
questions/usage for the #12 foot


Sue T

PS:  And now for something totally off topic.  I've started another mailing list 
today.  This one is devoted to Singer Featherweights.  It's available in Digest 
mode only.  If interested, please send e-mail to
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 23:12:08 -0400
Subject: Re: My 1630 Died! &other

Patchy - Thanks for the info re: Mr. Zimmerman and his shop.  His prices
certainly look reasonable.  Sounds like you have the deco machine - did you
get it there? Can I ask what you paid?  Thanks. Hal
Subject: Consumer Bernina University
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 22:43:11 -0400

The dates, location, and schedule for Consumer Bernina University are
finally out!  To register you must contact Ann's Fabrics Sewing
Machine Centers at 617-828-2201.  They will send you a brochure and a
registration form.  The following information comes from their

Mary from Ann's Fabrics has agreed that we cyber-seamsters can have
some way to meet each other at CBU.  What fun!



Dates: Saturday October 28 and Sunday October 29
Location: Holiday Inn in Taunton, Mass. (Taunton is southeast of
Local transportation: Boston-area attendees will be provided with
          transportation from both Ann's locations to the hotel.
Fees: For $195 you get 4 instruction workshops, 4 market workshops, 2
          hotel luncheons, morning and afternoon breaks, Saturday
          evening banquet featuring Designs by Bernina, transportation
          to/from Ann's Canton or Woburn locations


Saturday October 28

 7:30 -  8:15  Registration
 8:15 - 10:00  Classes (The Great Cover-Up or Beyond the Basics or 
                 The Shell Collection)
10:00 - 10:15  Coffee Break
10:15 - noon   Classes continue
 noon - 12:45  Lunch featuring Fasturn Trunk Show
12:45 -  1:30  Market Workshops (Perfect Pressing Techniques,
                 Simplifying the Bias Binder, Feet Sampling, The Ins
                 and Outs of Ann's Bernina Club, Embroidery Beyond
                 Belief )
 1:30 -  3:00  Classes (Contemporary Crazy Patch Work or By Polar
                 Demand or The Bernina Basics)
 3:00 -  3:15  Coffee Break
 3:15 -  5:15  Classes continue
 5:30 -  7:30  Dinner featuring Designs by Bernina

Sunday October 29

 7:30 -  8:15  Coffee
 8:15 - 10:00  Classes (Serger Access-ories or Japanese Embroidered
                 Sashiko Vest or The 1630 Library)
10:00 - 10:15  Coffee Break
10:15 - noon   Classes continue
 noon - 12:45  Lunch featuring Studen Show &Share
12:45 -  1:30  Market Workshops (Mastering the Ruffler, The Ins and
                 Outs of Ann's Serger Club, Ironing Solutions, Nifty
                 Notions, Open Sew)
 1:30 -  3:00  Classes (Memorabilia Wall Hanging or Contemporary
                 Connections or Reversible Puffing Strip Vest)
 3:00 -  3:15  Coffee Break
 3:15 -  5:15  Classes continue

Most of the classes have kit fees ($5 - $25).

The instructors will be Joyce Carter, Agnes Mercik, Elizabeth Lyness,
and Kathryn Dillon.

It will be possible to reserve a Bernina 1630 (check out the stitch
quality! :-)) and/or a serger to use during the weekend.

"The Sew-ers Emporium will be open throughout the Consumer Bernina
University.  Great discounts will be available.  If you need anything
in advance please call either store with your order.  It will be ready
for you when you arrive at the hotel."
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 03:15:00 UTC
Subject: feet

You get what you pay for with Bernina, their feet are definitely some of the
best on the market, well designed and quality built.  They are made out of
metal parts, and are durable.  As much as plastic feet are nice, they are
hard to see thru, and if they fall on the floor, and you can't find the
foot, be rest assured, that next time you walk on the floor, you will be
sure to step on the foot and break it, that won't happen with bernina feet.
With a few exceptions, all bernina feet come with how to use instructions
and have a white band on the upper part of the foot, this white band helps
with threading your needle.  You don't realize how much you depend on the
white until its not there to thread the needle.
I can't think of one foot I own, and I own most of the feet, that I don't
like.  To me the biggest waste of my money was the larger holed quilting
foot.  I just can't see the purpose with that foot and end up using my #9,
that is the one that is sold with the machine.
They are expensive, but you won't be replacing them down the line either.
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:30:33 -0400
Subject: Re: feet

Dear Sue,

Never but never use a generic foot on a Bernina.  The feet made by them are
the only ones that will give you superb performance.  Especially a walking
foot.  Just take a look at both feet and you can see the difference.  I used
to be a Bernina Dealer over 6 years ago, and I am not paid by Bernina or do I
have any afiliation with them anymore.  I just would not have any other
machine for myself.  Remember - you only get what you pay for.  That is why
only Bernina dealers are authorized to fix Bernina machines should 
they ever need it which is very rarely.   If you take your machine to anyone
else, they 
can't get Bernina parts and will substitute generic parts which will not
perform as well.

Off my soap box now.....Barbara S
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:44:56 BST
Subject: Machine failure

Dear All.  Ref Nancy's message of her machine stopping, mine 
did this a year or so ago and when I took it in, the machine 
man showed me a little "board" with wires enmeshed in it (I 
can't remember what you call it) and it had just "blown".  
You could see that it wasn't right.  He replaced the board 
and it has gone a treat ever since (it wasn't cheap).  Is 
this the same thing?  Let us know what your expert says, ok? 
 All the best from Alita
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 07:21:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Ruffler

I need to make 24 praire(SP) skirts by friday. Is the ruffler easy to
use(seems like it is a good excuse to get a new gadget for my 1630)?
Was planning to order it from Mr Zimmerman in PA.  Does anyone know how much
it costs and is it easy to use...Don't need a steep learning curve. It looks
easy enough in the Bernina guide book.
I seem to remember there was a ruffler for a serger.  Does anyone know
anything about that.  I have a bernina 334ds.  I need to make ruffles 2:1 and
with the differential feed can only get 1.5:1.  Would also like to ruffle
fabric and apply it in one step if possible.
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 08:22:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Mr. Zimmerman 

Hi MaryAnn! I'm originally from Memphis. My father-in-law lives on our farm
right outside of Nashville in Linden, TN as caretaker. I feel like I've met
a friend from "home"! 

I hope you get your new "feet"! Pun intended!

Pat Y.
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:24:06 -0500
Subject: Eureka!!

Success at last!!  I discovered the magic steps needed to use Sulky Sliver
thread.  I have been struggling along, usually only able to complete 2 or 3
very short lines of straight-stitch-with-the-feed-dogs-up-using-my-walking-foot
method with Sulky Sliver per evening.  Ugh.  I was going so slow with the
foot pedal.  Then I started playing around with that little icon on the screen
of my 1530 that indicateds machine speed.  I figured what the heck, I've tried
everything else.  I set the machine on the slowest speed (it's the icon with
the M designation - must be for machine, huh?) and then put the pedal to the
metal and got even, controlled stitches with *no* garbage underneath.  I also
got out my spare bobbin thing and loosened the bobbin tension and have the upper
tension set on 6.  I thread the bobbin through the little finger, and thread
the upper thread through the little wire thing on the handle.  I know these
tension settings are just opposite of what I've been told to use, but after
trial and error, they work for me.  I am using the metallica needle made by

When I am doing decorative sewing with unusual threads, or machine quilting, I
*always* do sample sewing before putting my quilt under the needle.  Someone
had mentioned doing a sample blind hem.  I think the "sample" approach is the
only way to go.  I've probably used up at least a spool of Sulky Sliver thread,
but my quilt project will look all the better for it.  I've been able to
find a method that works.  Your mileage may vary.

RE: the 1950's approach to housewifery.  I saved it to a file called crap.  I
have two student counselors and want to see their reaction to it.  They are
both engineering students.  More later.

Ida T
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:41:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Consumer University 

Dear Debbie:  Thank you so much for the info on Bernina Consumer 
University.  I would LOVE to go, but it's not likely I'll get that far 
from Florida.  I do hope that attendees who are on this net will share 
with us the information they get, and perhaps some of it will be 
appropriate for Lessons on Line.  The registration fee sounds like a good 
deal for all you get, and perhaps a great opportunity for machine and 
accessory purchase.  
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 08:34:39 CDT
Subject: Bernina #12 foot


I have a question about the #12 foot.  I recently purchased one and have
been using it to put on cording - it's great.  My question - the foot
has a "glass eye" on the top near where it attaches to the machine.  I've
never seen this on any other feet, and can't find any explanation in the
instructions.  I have an 1130 - is this perhaps a feature that is used 
on the 1630s?  

Curious in IL...		Ruth A
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 14:20:28 -0400
Subject: Using Sulky Sliver thread

Hi; this is my first message to the Bernina fan club.  I have loved reading all 
the wonderful info.  Lots of good stuff to store away!!

I have a question about Sulky Sliver thread.  I have used it with lightwt thread 
in the bobbin with okay results.  I have also used it with Sulky rayon in the 
bobbin and the Sliver on top and had some tension problems.  The tension was 
fluctuating alot; I was getting big loops on the bottom fabric.  I was working 
on a "Gypsy" vest (aka the Threads vest) and was making long runs of straight 
stitching and then setting the machine for reverse and making long runs again.  

I used a Metalfil needle and tried threading the eye of the bobin and leaving 
the bobbin eye unthreaded.  The main problem was the inconsistency of the 
stitches.  Anybody had this problem or offer any suggestions?  

Thanks,  Michele 
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:36:47 -0700 
Subject: Ruffler

I don't have the ruffler for my 'Nina, but I have used them on other
machines.  I found that there was a steep learning curve, although if
the ruffler works well on your machine (as the Bernina one no doubt
does) you can get good ruffles of various types.

You might consider buying the gathering foot instead.  It does less,
but it will gather quite well, and since with a prairie skirt you're
not too picky about the exact ratio, the gathering foot (which is a
lot cheaper than a ruffler, and much easier to use) would probably do
the trick.

-- Anne P
Date: 11 Sep 95 20:25:42 EDT
Subject: Copy of: guide lessons

I just bought a 1080 and so far I really like it. The problem is I went to a
dealer about 60 miles from here because I thought that it was the only one
around. Much to my dismay, the next week I got our new phone book and it listed
a new dealer that had just opened up a couple of months before and only about 15
miles away. Well the new dealer said that I could get a certificate of some kind
and take the guide lessons at her shop but the dealer I bought my machine from
refuses to cooperate. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Joanie S.
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:04:18 -0400
Subject: 1/8" ribbon problem

I have sewn on 1/8" ribbon with a double needle using fine embroidery or
darning thread using an open toe embroidery foot with a goove underneath
(#56). You could also use a braiding foot. The stitching really doesn't show.
 I used this for applying satin ribbon onto organza tucks in my daughter's
commmunion dress and it turned out beautifully.  Good luck!
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 16:49:34 -0400
Subject: Re: #12 foot

I posted on the Bernina list a couple of weeks ago regarding this but
apparently you did not pick it up.

The #12 foot is wonderful to zigzag over 1/8" elastic, or baby elastic, as it
is often called. You let the elastic run through the groove, hanging onto it
at the back until you get going. It is best not to cut the elastic to size
until you are through zigzagging. Then you can secure it at the first edge
with a few stitches and pull it up to gather the fabric to where you want it.
Then stitch over the second edge to secure.\

Mary M
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 14:09:30 -0700
Subject: Brookline, MA...thanks 4 the advice

Hello everyone,
I want to thank you all for the generous feedback on moving to Boston.  
We found a place to rent this weekend in a whirlwind trip into town w/ 
2 days to look for a place.  We will be renting in Brookline near 
Brookline Village until we can get our bearings and look for something 
longer term.  Except for the driving, it looks like a great city to 
live in!

If I could impose on your kindness just a little more, I would really 
love to hear your advice on restaurants, shopping, etc in the Brookline 

Again- many, many thanks for the replies to my earlier post especially 
to Lois C, Debbie D and LCW for your very valuable 

Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 15:45:18 -0400
Subject: in-house repairs

Bernina still requires a Bernina trained mechanic for each dealership- that
has not changed. Perhaps you were mislead by so many postings about machines
being sent back to Bernina for updating, etc. Some repairs must be done by
the mechanics in Illinois when it requires knowledge or equipment which is
beyond the ability of a particular dealer at a particular time. Mechanics are
not born, they must learn their trade and it takes time to become proficient
with the complicated inner workings of today's computerized machinery. In
some cases, Bernina requires the machine to be sent in as well. There is a
vast difference in the sizes and ages of Bernina dealerships. The longer that
a mechanic has repaired machines and the higher the volume of repairs, the
more proficient he/she becomes. Bernina mechanics have often been compared to
the Maytag repairman who sits around all day waiting for a call.Compared to
other brands of machines, they need little servicing beyond the comprehensive
clean, oil and adjust.

Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 08:39:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina #12 foot - LOL 

Hi Ruth,

The way I understand it is that the eye makes it a coded foot for the 1630.
This allows the 1630 to know that it has a foot attached that allows the needle
to make a stitch up to 9 mm wide.  Notice how wide the cutout is on the #12 
foot.  If I have misinterpreted someone please speak up because it seems like 
after 18 months I am still learning about my 1630.  That's what keeps it
interesting.  Happy Sewing.



I have a question about the #12 foot.  I recently purchased one and have
been using it to put on cording - it's great.  My question - the foot
has a "glass eye" on the top near where it attaches to the machine.  I've
never seen this on any other feet, and can't find any explanation in the
instructions.  I have an 1130 - is this perhaps a feature that is used 
on the 1630s?  

Curious in IL...		Ruth A
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:03:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina #12 foot - LOL

Hi Ruth,

There are two #12's made by Bernina.  The one with the large glass coded eye
is for the 1630 machine ... is lets the machine know that it can swing 9 mm
and also has the wider foot &toes.  The one made for your 1130 would not
have this. The coded one that you purchased will work fine, but if you don't
plan to get the 1630 in the future, I would get the 5mm feet so that they
ride the feed-dogs properly for your machine.

Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:26:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/9/95

Mary Beth,

>Subject: Bobbin Noise - Problem?
>My 1260 has developed a rather loud noise, which I have tracked down to the
>bobbins rattling in the bobbin case.  Doesn't seem to be dependent on what
>bobbins I use -- I have both brand new ones and old ones (even a few solid
>wall ones).

I had a similar 'problem' (or rather 'condition') on my 1090 when I first
bought it.  The bobbin case clattered noticeably, especially after an hour
or so of sewing.  These 'notes' may help diagnose your 1260:

- the finger (in the hook) race that holds the bobbin case was not quite
perpendicular to the plane in which the oscillation occurs.  That resulted
in a rattling of the bobbin case (my dealer then mailed me a replacement
hook and that solved the problem)

- putting a small drop of oil on that finger means smoother movement between
it and the bobbin case (mine got noisier after an hour of sewing or so when
that droplet got spun out of there)

- have you tried running the machine without bobbin case in place?  Without
hook in place?

My bet is that the bobbin case finger may be out of line.

Good luck with finding the bug


P.S.:  BTW, After I first paid attention to the clatter, I found that the
noise had gotten louder just from listening to it...
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:14:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Ruffler

Well I ordered a ruffler for my 334ds serger.  It should come today....great
service from Mr Z.  It wasn't expensive...should come to about $25.  We'll
see how it works.  It was time for a new gadget.
I do have a gathering foot for the 1630..actuallyit was for an older machine
but it fits...but it doesn't give me the fullness I want, even with the
stitch lengthened and the tension tightened.  Also tried zigzag and bastine
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:56:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Misc comments

Changing needles every eight hours is a bare minimum.  It make a big
difference what type of sewing you are doing, what threads you are using and
what fabric you are sewing on.
Some guidelines I use are:  Garment construction is not as hard on a needle
as embroidery/embelishment work.  Natural fibers are not going to dull the
needle as quickly as synthetics.  
Naturally, if you hit a pin and burr the needle you should change it
immediately.  Some machines have a very close tolerance between the needle
and hook system and if your needle is the least bit burred you will have
problems.  Also, don't assume that a "new" needle is perfect.  I have found
that the percentage of bad needles in a package of "new" needles is higher
than you would like to believe.
Hope this helps.
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 09:02:05 -0700
Subject: Re: Dealer in Phoenix

The best dealer in Phoenix is the Quilted Apple, 3043 N.24th St. 956-0904.
Val Sparks is the gal to talk to.
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 08:51:30 MDT
Subject: Re: Bridal Veil Edging

Settings I referred to last week are as follows:

#3 foot, W 3-1/2, L-1;  As I indicated this works great on heirloom sewing -
I have an 1130;  When sewing have the edge of the fabric just to the right
of the centre of the foot and it should roll nicely and give a very
professional rolled edge.

When I took my lessons it was suggested to try widths between 3-1/2 and 4
and lengths between 1/2 and 1.  For the 1130 I found the above settings the

Good Luck!
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 13:23:53 -0400
Subject: #12 foot LOL

Ruth - The glass eye on your #12 foot is a prism which is read by the 1630
and allows the machine to stitch in 9 mm. There is another #12 foot which is
not as wide and the channel is not as deep which is made for all other models
and does not have the prism.

I hope that this clears up your confusion - Francyne
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 14:47:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Using Sulky Sliver Thread

I saw the post on Sulky Sliver and i just couldn't resist a comment or two.
 I LOVE Sliver!  I have never had any troble with it and I don't even need a
metafil needle.  I just drop the tension on my trusty 1530 to 4.5 and go!  

The other thing I've done with Sliver was to use it in the bobbin.  I have
since been told that you can't do this because the Sliver breaks too easily
but it worked fine for me.  I used a matching color of regular thread for the
top thread.  I was doing some machine reverse applique and wanted to follow a
complicated pattern.  I put the Sliver in the bobbin and followed the lines I
had drawn on paper but I used it on the back side of the project.  I used a
very narrow zigzag.   It seemed that no matter how hard I tried I could never
get all the paper out afterwards and it doesn't show on back!  Worked like a
charm and my piece was accepted in the Hoffman Challenge last year.

Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 13:44:30 MDT
Subject: French Terry

In the August/September edition of Threads there was an article on a silk
bathrobe lined with french terry - Anyone have any idea of the cost per yard
of french terry.  Stonemountain &Daughter Fabrics in Berkley as well as
another source was mentioned.  Anyone know of any Canadian dealers that
carry it?

Thanks in advance!
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 16:44:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Ruffler

Well, the serger ruffler arrived.  It's very easy to use but on calico only
does 1.5:1.  It does do a slick job of ruffeling the fabric and sewing it on
to the skirt in one pass, though.
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 17:38:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Club??

Hi Shelley,
I love what you are doing with Bernina club, because it gives us so many
different ideas on sewing projects, how to sew, etc. I am always inspired
with new ideas for projects, either to begin soon, or to store away for later
When I bought my 1090 at the Ice House (before SQA opened), I drove 90 miles
for Bernina club about 3 times. Then, I realized that she wasn't doing much,
other than demo a foot or 2, and that it wasn't worth my time, even without
the drive.
I, for one, end up buying more fabric, etc. from SQA because of ideas from
you (&sometimes from the Internet), but being drawn into the store for the
Lately, I haven't had time to prepare for the projects or bring my machine,
but that doesn't mean that I learn any less. Some people have to try it
themselves on their own machines to learn it enough to use the technique, or
it is lost. Different people learn differently. Luckily, I can learn either
Please keep up the great work!
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 22:51:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/11/95

The #12  foot with the "eye" is designed for the 1630 so the machine can read
the full 9mm width of the feed dog.Your 1130 has only a 5mm feed dog base.
The 12 foot has a C after the number.You can use the foot on your machine but
will hang over your feed dogs. 
Subject: Re: Copy of : guide lessons
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 21:16:26 PDT


Why don't you contact the main Bernina office.  

What is that address and phone number again folks??  
This time I will write it in my book I promise. ;-/
Jean P
Subject: Looking for Lab. dog profile or back view!
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 21:37:58 PDT 

Hi Everyone;

I am looking for a Lab. dog profile.  I really would prefer a back view
but a side profile would do.  I want to enlarge this to about 14 inches
for the front of a sweatshirt for a friend.

I did this with a cat for myself, using the pink, teal, purple cat fabric
that has been so popular in several colors.  I just used a light fusible
then a satin stitch to applique the shirt front and added whiskers by hand.

Then much to my surprise I found this fabric with dogs and can't find the
right dog pattern.

Thanks for any help,
Jean P
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 02:27:13 -0400
Subject: Bernina Consumer University

Can you tell me if there is a Bernina Consumer University being planned?  I
attended the one held in the San Francisco Bay Area several years ago and
loved it.  If information is available, I'd appreciate receiving it.  Please
Patricia Dal Porto, 4233 Callan Blvd., Daly City, CA 94015

Thank you very much.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 07:57:45 -0400
Subject: sewing on badges

My husband is a den leader for my sons cub scout den, and I am a brownie
leader. Whenever my Brownie troop earns badges I sew them on their sashes for
them. I put invisible thread in the needle, pin the badges in place with big
quilt pins (but remove them before sewing) and just zig zag quickly around
the outside of the badge. On a few occasions, when I had a kid who needed a
whole bunch sewn on and left them overnight, I have embroidered the girls
name on the inside of the sash, behind where a badge will be. The badge hides
the wrong side of the name embroidery. 

Today my husband went to the Boy Scout store and bought himself a new shirt
for his pack meetings. (I call him Ranger Bob when he wears it). The
saleslady mentioned something about sewing on all the badges, and he told her
that his wife does it on her machine because it sews sideways. She said "Ah,
she must have a Bernina!"

I didn't bother to tell him that I don't use the sideways for that. I do find
however that I get a lot of mileage for very little labor if I use the
lettering on my machine for scout purposes. My husband loves when I put all
the boy's names on their den flag. Last year someone commented on how nice it
looked, and my husband said "It should, I could have bought a small car for
what we paid for that machine."

That bump that sticks out the top of some of the newer feet is for people
with 1630's. It tells the machine that the foot is wider, and it's ok to let
the needle swing the full width(9mm). When the machine doesn't see the bump
(actually a mirror of some sort) it keeps the swing within the 5mm range so
the needle doesn't break. The "fat" feet will work on 1530's and maybe 12
30's and 60's. They just might not be worth paying the extra money for. The
"fat" #12 seems to be a combination of the old #12 and the new #21, so you
might want to try it. My friend did on her 1530 and is happy. 

Date: 12 Sep 95 23:21:19 EDT
Subject: Feet

Sue W 

In some cases you can get away with a generic foot but there are 2 that I know
for sure are worth the money, even though they are pricey.  The walking foot is
one and the ruffler is the other.  I own 9 generic rufflers, and when ever I
would do ruffles I would get one out and after ruffling for awhile out of the
blue it would just stop.  One day I had a large project I had to get done and
this happened to me 5 times.  I was so mad I called a friend who had been trying
to tell me the Bernina ruffler was the best, even though it is almost identicle.
I borrowed hers and finished the job, and borrowed it two other times before I
was convinced.  I waited for a sale and got it when it was 25% off.  I used to
own a generic walking foot, I gave it to my mom
she has my Pfaff and doesn't sew a whole lot.  I do, and wouldn't trade or lend
that foot, except to that one friend.  On feet that I might use just once in a
while I do use some generic feet, but on the whole, You get what you pay for.
Just wait for a sal, or give family alist of feet they can get you for birthday,
mother's day, anniversary, and don't forget, Xmas is coming.

Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 08:28 CST
Subject: Re[2]: Bernina Digest 9/6/95

     Thanks for the information.  I do know the Quilted Apple and 
     will be sure to go by and check out accessories with Val.
     Thanks again.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 08:57:51 -0500
Subject: Fwd: Re: Mr. Zimmerman

hope you get this ok.  This is the first time I've ever done this.  good
on the 24 skirts.  
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 12:23:00 UTC
Subject: Does anyone have?

Hi all,
does anyone out there also have a babylock, blind hemmer, I think that mine
is having fits?  I have broken 3 needles in a row.  and it does seem to be
making a clanking noise when it runs.  Is there anywhere that you can clean
and oil this machine?  My pamphlet does say there is a spot.  Will take it
in to be cleaned, but wondered if anyone knew first.  Thanks,
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 12:22:00 UTC
Subject: Copy of : guide lessons

I didn't see the latter part of your message, but is it the dealer who is 60
miles away who refuses to cooperate, what you could do is, give the dealer
who is 15 miles from you, new business, and only do the business you need to
at the other.  If you are taking your classes, you can go ahead and take
them at the 60 mile dealer, that is only an hour's drive, (I drive farther
than that, and do have a dealer closer, but I like the farther one better)
Let him know, that his refusal to cooperate, has made you have bad feelings
for him, and that you will be bringing your machine in only for the warranty
work if it is ever required.  You can use the closer dealer, for your
bernina needs.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:12:19 -0400
Subject: Sewing Machine Cabinet-Help

I am seriously considering buying an oak J. T. Parsons sewing cabinet
endorsed by Martha Pullen. (latest Sew Beautiful magazine, p. 106)  I
haven't looked at a sewing cabinet in years, but my new sewing room
deserves something less primitive than what I am currently using!!!  I will
have to buy this sight-unseen, but it looks good in the ad.

I am not sure about the wisdom of putting my machine in a cabinet (Burnina
1630)  I need some feedback......will it help or hinder quilting/home deco
projects?  What about an electric lift?  Do any of you have a J. T. Parsons
cabinet? Aside from the money, which is a completely different issue!!!,
any comments would be greatly appreciated.  I really need to make a
decision on this room immediately.  I doubt if anyone wants to volunteer to
come help me with the re-model, but maybe you could volunteer your
collective wisdom to help me get at least one more decision out of the way.

Liz-tired of a house in chaos and workers who don't show up
Date: 13 Sep 95 10:54:27 EDT
Subject: Re: Bridal Veil Edging


I'll let you know how it goes.

Date: 13 Sep 95 11:00:50 EDT
Subject: Bridal veil again, #12 foot?

Hi again,

Thanks for all your help on the bridal veil edge.  Does anyone know if I could
use the #12 foot to sew pearls on the edge of the veils. This sure would save me
alot of time when someone orders pearls!!!  I wonder if it would "eat" the
fabric because it's so delicate?

Bye for now,

Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 14:37:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 1630 quilting stitch question

I visited a friend yesterday who has a new 1630.  I am really spoiled 
now.  I was able to sit and try it out, briefly.  It sews with a 
beautiful stitch and works like a dream.  She asked me if I would ask the 
Bernina Fan Club about the quilting stitch.  She didn't show me the 
problem, but said that it is too long a stitch for her taste.  Is there a 
way to shorten it?  She's only had her 1630 a short time, and I have 
never used one before so we are both real beginners.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 12:38:20 -0600
Subject: LOL - Foot #12
     I hope this isn't too late.  I've been on vacation, so have just now 
     gotten caught up with the digests.
     Anyway, I have been using my #12 foot to put in the big tooth 
     (plastic?) zippers.  The cut-out rides right along the teeth, and I 
     offset the needle to the left or right so I get a very close stitch.  
     My zipper doesn't slip or slide - it's been great since I tried it!
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 19:17:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Ruffler

A trick that I have used with the gathering foot for the sewing machine is to
put paper in the slot and pull on it as I sew. This is the technique that you
use when attaching a straight piece to the piece that you are gathering. The
more that you pull on the fabric (paper in this case) the more gathering that
you get. Just pull off the paper afterwards. I like to use adding machine
roll paper for this.

On your serger, you probably need to play with your tensions to get a tighter
gather. How about increasing the needle tension?

Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 18:37:30 -0500
Subject: Price on a 1630

Would someone please tell me what is a good price on a new 1630.  No trade in.
Thanks so much
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 02:04:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/12/95

Sue and Everyone,
    I goofed up the computer including Aladdin on Genie over the weekend and
lost 10 messages on Saturday...from Friday and Possibly Thursday.  If anyone
wrote me about that time, please resend as those are gone.  I can receive
messages but cannot reply to messages on Genie.  I can send and receive e-
mail at this time.  If I had a message from England in that group, I need
you to resend.  Thanks.
Petchy,  Now you say the giant Bernina quilting foot is not necessary.  Just
when I bought one last week.  And Ruthie was out of the Burda Tracing
Wheels.  Will keep an eye out for reorders if you still want one.
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 04:22:00 UTC
Subject: #12 foot LOL

What a marvelous idea.  Zippers and the #12 foot.  I love it, thanks,
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 23:26:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Good Deco Price

I still need information on what is a good price to pay for a Deco, can
anyone help?  
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 07:21:01 -0400
Subject: Post note 

Hi everyone,  I will be traveling to Switzerland on Sept. 19 - 29 and would
very much like to visit the Bernina factory.  Does anyone know what city this
is located in and has anyone ever visited the factory before?  Thanks for your
answers ahead of time.

                Carol N
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine cabinet - Help  
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 07:50:03 -0400

I have one of those assemble-it-yourself, white laminate sewing
cabinets that don't have a lift mechanism but do have a storage area
(a door that reveals a drawer and a large cubby hole) on the lower
left and a depressed area on top for your sewing machine.  There is a
cut-out that fits in the depression and around the base of the sewing
machine.  The arm of your sewing machine is level with the table,
which is quite large.  There are wheels on its base.  The design
easily accomodates a Bernina knee-lift.

I really like this cabinet and wouldn't change anything about it.
Fabric is well-supported and slides well on the surface.  The storage
area is adequate for my Bernina's hard case, goody box, and
documentation (Advanced Guide, 1630 library).  The drawer holds my
decorative threads, odds and ends of bindings, elastic, etc.  The
laminate surface doesn't scratch like wood can.  It is easy to keep it
clean (a must when living with three active cats).

I don't remember the name of the manufacturer, but remember paying
about $250 for the cabinet.  It's made a world of difference to me -
so much better than setting up on the dining room table!  

Debbie D
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 09:13:16 -0500
Subject: Re:  Sewing Machine cabinet - Help


I have a Horn cabinet and I know a couple of people who have other cabinets.
We all seem to be happy with them.  Mine has a drop leaf so that when I am
machine quilting I can extend my sewing area.  The lowering mechanisms in all
three are different and that is why I am responding to you message.  My cabinet
has some kind of manual thing that you have to bolt your machine in and then
manually lower the thing and put a square in the hole that you just made so
that the surface is smooth and flat.

Friend #1 has a spring lever lowering mechanism.  Just push downward on the
machine and somehow it lowers.  Push again and it rises.

Friend #2 has an electric lowering mechanism that works well.  However, you will
already have a power cord and a foot pedal cord.  Do you also want an electric
cord for the lowering doodad?

Comment.  Do any of the lowering mechanisms affect sewing or quilting?  None of
us really know.  Why?  We never lower the things.  My Bernina is up and 
available *ALL* the time.  I wouldn't make my decision on a cabinet based on the
lowering device.  It might be a way to mark up the price.  Now if you tend to
clean house daily and put away all your sewing stuff then a lowering gadget
might sway you one way or the other.  

Oh, one other thing.  I have never bolted my machine into my cabinet.  Thereis
a little shelf thing that the machine sits quite nicely on, and since I never
lower it, I don't need it bolted.  I did have to buy a modified knee lever from
Bernina to accomodate the cabinet, and that is something for you to consider.

Will your knee lift fit into the cabinet you are considering.  I also bought
a special plastic insert, so that I have a one plane surface area.  Then there
are two components, one for a serger, and one a set of drawers that I bought
with the cabinet.  Theoretically, both components fit under the sewing cabinet
when all is put away.  I think this has happened once.  I like to keep my stuff
out for those rare boughts with insomnia, or during lunch hour, or whenever
the spirit moves me to sew.

Be sure to get a nice office chair with a pneumatic lift to go with your new
cabinet.  You won't regret it.


Ida T
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine cabinet - Help  
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 11:04:55 PDT

I have a Parsons cabinet from about 15 years ago when the lifts were
mechanical, I don't know how the electric version works.  The lift
arrangement is nice because I can raise the machine when I want to get at
the freearm, and lower it for most things when I want a large flat bed.
Then I can drop the machine entirely and make the cabinet flat on top when
I need to make the machine disappear (when the room becomes a bedroom for
visitors).  When I quilt, I have to pull the cabinet away from the wall so
the extra material goes down the back.  My model has the machine sit
roughly in the middle with drawers on the right--I wish I had a little
more room to the left of the machine for my legs.  So look at the
particular arrangement of drawers, etc.  My cabinet has 4 drawers which
used to hold all my supplies, but I've now over-flowed them all.  It came
with a piece of wood to form the bed around the 830 I had originally.
When I got my 1630, my dealer had a sheet of hard plastic formed properly
for the 1630 shape.

The drawback is if you want to take the machine anywhere you have to
unscrew it from the lift (one screw), so it takes a couple of minutes.
Date: 14 Sep 95 14:26:01 EDT
Subject: Mr. Z's address

Would someone please post Mr. Z's address again. I was "cleaning house" and
deleated the past Bernina Digests<---big DUH. I would like to add his name to my
growing card file of craft sources.


Date: 14 Sep 95 14:40:48 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/13/95

I called the Bernina office and they told me you have to be 100 miles away from
the dealer to change where you get your guide lessons. I guess I'm stuck.

Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 11:36:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine cabinet - Help

Hi Liz!

In regards to a cabinet, my best advice is to check on the accessibility of
the bobbin case. My past experience with Parsons was very frustrating because
I had to remove the insert and then try to get my hand (which really isn't
very large) down and around to remove and replace the bobbin case. The
electric lift was better but you still had to interrupt everything and bring
your machine to it's highest position (free-arm height) in order to get at
the bobbin. I much prefer the cabinets made by Horn because there is an open
space in front of the machine that you can reach in straight ahead to get to
the bobbin case. Horn does not have an electric lift that I know of but they
do have a wonderful mechanical one which works very well and does not require

Good luck with your decision - Francyne
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 10:23:53 PDT
Subject: Feet Bought

Thanks for your opinions about the Bernina feet.  I called Mr. 
Zimmermen and ordered 5.  His price are just SO GOOD!! :-).  I 
am eagerly awaiting the arrival of my walking foot.
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 17:03:20 -0400
Subject: Re: 1630 Quilting Stitch &1230 &1260

Here is a formula that my Bernina Dealer gave me to machine quilt Quilts.  I
have tried it and it is very controlable especially for designs.  Give it a
try if you have the machine 
that is noted.

#1230 &#1260

Monofiliment thread in the needle. 50wt. cotten in the bobbin.  #16 stitch,
width 0,
length 4, Foot # 8, Balance +2, upper tension between 7 to  8 1/2.


Same threads as above top and bottom.  Feather D 2, Stitch #7, width 0,
Length 4, 
F-8, Balance +2 vertical, upper tension T 7.

Have fun......Barbara
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:23:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine Cabinet - Help

I purchased a cabinet for my bernina 1230 last year. The "lowering" mechanism
is for "storing" the machine or "setting" it up for sewing. It (or at least
mine) doesn't affect the sewing at all. It is simply for raising and lowering
the machine. My knee lift fits nicely into the sewing machine, as always.

I really like the cabinet because it gives me much more sewing room.

I highly recommend one!

Pat Y.
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 17:03:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Price on a 1630

As a former Bernina Dealer (6years ago) I feel so sad when I see questions
pertaining to what the best price for a Bernina is.  A Bernina should always
with no exception be purchased from your local dealer.  That is the person who
is authorized and has been paid by Bernina to teach your many hours of guide
lessons.  It is also the only dealer who will make the repairs on your Bernina
with out charging.  If you buy your machine from another area, and want guide
lessons locally, the dealer who sold the machine must pay I believe #300.00 to
the local dealer to do so. That dealer is of course not going to do it.  Your
local dealer having not sold the machine to you is under no obligation to do any
service or repair on it.  The cost of this for the first two years is also built
into the selling price.   Why should that dealer take up his precious time to
service a machine they didn't sell.

A Bernina Dealer spends tens of thousands of dollars to become a dealer and each
one must  continue their education by attending the Bernina Universitys that are
set up every year and also the other somewhat local training sessions that are
held sometimes quarterly. This is also very expensive.  Hotel rooms, food , new
tools, etc. Customers have no idea just what it takes to make a good dealer. 
There usually is just a hundred or so dollars difference in the prices between
dealers sometimes even less than that.  The headaches and bad feelings that can
occur by buying out of the territory to me is just not worth it.

My biggest compition was Mr. Zimmerman who is the largest Bernina Dealer in the
U.S. It was very tough for me to compete with him.  He was 45 minutes away from
me.  I had rent.  He had a chicken house on his farm.  But I had Fabric, and
when the person bought a Bernina from me, I offered a terriffic discount to them
for fabric like 25% for a period of time and also they would become a member of
the Bag Lady club. They received a large Canvas bag with our quilt patch logo on
it and the Bag Lady lingo. The only way to get it was to buy a machine from me. 
Needless to say there were times that  I probably lost money on the sale.

Mr. Zimmerman buys his machines in such quantity that he receives special
discounts that other dealers can't get.  He also has sub dealers to whom he
sells these machines to which also ups his sales and profits.

I'm so sorry to have used up so much space with this but so many Bernina
customers have no idea what goes into being a dealer and think only of the $'s
involved.  I am no longer associated with Bernina so I have nothing to gain from
this note.

I sold a machine at break even prices and no profit in order to get the
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:59:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Post Note

Bernina is located in Zurick. I went there in 1984.  I wanted to buy a
Bernina then and thought I could get it cheaper.  At that time, the machine
itself would have been less, much less,  but to get it converted from 220 to
110 electricity, the duty to bring it here, it just wasn't worth it.  Also
the dealer was unable to talk  with me in English,  His English was very
poor.  My German was worse.  It felt like it was a bad experience.  

I was in Vienna, Austria last week.  I went to a fabric store that sold
Bernina accessories and I found the same problem with language.  Swiss speak
more English than Austrians.
Austrians don't seem to like Americans.

Most of the yong people in Europe can speak English fluently.

Have a great time

Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 23:44:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine Cabinet - Help

>  My cabinet has some kind of manual thing that you have to bolt your
machine in and then
>manually lower the thing and put a square in the hole that you just made so
>that the surface is smooth and flat.

>Comment.  Do any of the lowering mechanisms affect sewing or quilting?  None of
>us really know.  Why?  We never lower the things.  My Bernina is up and 
>available *ALL* the time. 

Ida - I think my cabinet is very similar to yours, but made by Roberts.  It
has a wooden insert also--which makes the machine a flatbed with a large
working surface.  But it looks like the main difference between us is I
raise and lower mine all the time (it's manual--wish I had the electric
model but didn't want to spend the extra money to get it)!  To use the free
arm, I raise the machine (and also to change the bobbin).  I use mine daily

How do you use your free arm if you don't raise the platform the machine
sits on/is bolted to?  Or is it always in flatbed mode because you use the
flatbed attachment and you have to take the attachment off for free-arm use?
I only use my flatbed attachment  when I take the machine to a class.  (BTW,
I have an 1130--am not sure if newer models still come with them?)

Just curious!

Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 23:51:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine Cabinet - Help!

 When I quilt, I have to pull the cabinet away from the wall so
>the extra material goes down the back. 

Mine is already away from the wall so I pull the ironing board over (minus
the iron, of course!) and set it immediately behind the cabinet to give me
extra surface area to hold the weight of the quilt.  It works great!

Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 22:26:00 -0600
Subject: Bernina Digest 9/9/95 

Dear Bernina lovers,

Our Bernina club this month will be December Holidays in September, Lots of 
articles that members have made on hand, treats and coffee  :>
Our dealer does this once a year and early enough that you can 
be inspired to get ready for the holidays. Then by  October the recipes for 
treats that were brought to taste in September, are put into a small cookbook
for all to try. It's great fun for all. 

Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 22:48:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Post Note 
Steckborne at the base of Piz (Mt) Bernina.  Never been there. I believe 
they give tours on certain day's.  Enjoy your trip.
Edith P
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 95 01:04:15 PDT
Subject: Skipped Stitches


I want to throw my 1630 out of the window!

My daughter is recieving her Girl Scout Gold Award on Saturday and 
I thought I would use the embroidery designs and block alphabet
on blue felt (doubled) to make "Thank You's".

My trial runs with good thread skipped badly all along the bottom
of the letters, not forming them correctly.  I played with tension,
thread, and on muslin with "tear-away", but had no luck.  What a
am I doing wrong?  I was using a metallica needle,  even using
a hoop!

From Jill, walking 12 miles per week
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 06:29:12 -0400
Subject: Skirts are DONE

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about serger ruffles.
I did buy the attatchment for my 334ds.  You also have to get the base to
attatch it to the machine.  Total cost including shipping was $25.
I used a wide stitch as opposed to the narrow one the flyer recommended.  Set
the differential feed to 2, the stitch length to 4 and the needle and lower
looper tensions to 9.
The fabric to be ruffled goes on the bottom abd the skirt fabric on top.  I
held that back with my right hand and pushed the ruffles through with my
left.  With a little practice it worked pretty well!

That is my contribution to the Spotsy ColorGuard this year!
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 95 09:51 CST
Subject: Re[2]: Bernina Digest 9/13/95

     I bought my 1090 over 100 miles away, and when I went in to 
     pick it up they informed me that I could not take the 
     machine until I had either had some instruction from them or 
     paid them $100 to transfer my lessons to a dealer closer to 
     home.  I had not been told this prior to picking it up.
     Needless to say, my husband wasn't very patient standing 
     outside for 2 hours or so while I got a crash course in 
     order to save the $100.  I do think the lessons are very 
     important, but I don't think this is the way to go about it! 
      There must be a better solution.
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 12:13:48 -0700
Subject: mr zimmerman and other stuff

>Thanks for your opinions about the Bernina feet.  I called Mr. 
>Zimmermen and ordered 5.  His price are just SO GOOD!! 

Does anyone know what Mr. Zimmerman charges for shipping/handling?

>Monofiliment thread in the needle. 50wt. cotten in the bobbin.  #16 
>stitch, width 0,length 4, Foot # 8, Balance +2, upper tension between

What -exactly- does the balance thingy do anyway?  I played with it 
when I took my classes - something like +24 made a pattern look like 
scissors or a heart or something.  Not a something that's of any value 
to me, obviously!  This message above is the first time I've seen the 
balance mentioned along with machine quilting; enlightenment, anyone?

Btw, I would strongly second the suggestion --along with a good 
cabinet that works for you-- to get a good chair which is ergonomic 
and has a lift.  Being able to adjust the seat and height on mine 
means I can sew for hours comfortably.  I had one teacher who used to 
sew for 30 mins (she had a timer set) at one height, go fold laundry, 
sew for 30 min at a new height, go wash the dishes, sew for 30 min at 
yet another height, go vacuum ... you get the idea.  She was older 
(70+) and said this helped her bones and also meant she didn't ever 
get cramped.  I'm about half her age and should probably listen, but 
every time 30 mins comes by, I'm having too much fun!  Also I keep my 
height at more-or-less the same place.  But I do try to get up and 
move around a little, just not so disciplined as she.

But a good chair is a must!

Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 16:16:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Sewing on badges

Hi Robbi,
It's a small world. My son is in Webelo Scouts &my husband is the new
PackMaster this year.
I use the #10 foot, invisible nylon thread for the top thread, and kacki
(sp?) in the bobbin, adjust the needle setting to be just inside the "ridge"
or satin stitching of the badges.
Also, I used the alphabet to sew our own name labels with pack number this
summer when my son went to camp this summer.
Thanks for the ideas.
Marianne Y
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 16:11:46 -0400
Subject: Re: #  12 foot, again

 Robbi wrote >>The "fat" #12 seems to be a combination of the old #12 and the
new #21, so you might want to try it. My friend did on her 1530 and is

Since I am the friend Robbi is referring to, I will corroborate this and say
that I constantly find new things I can do with it. Robbi was with me at the
store (which is very close to her house and not too close to mine) when I was
agonizing over whether to buy this or the other one, and my recollection is
that the decision was based on the newer one (with the glass thing) having a
bigger hole to put things through. But not having the other one to refer to,
I am not dead positive about that as the reason. Anyway I like it a lot.

Mary M
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 18:56:24 -0400
Subject: Bernina factory

The Bernina Factory is in Steckborn. I was there in 1987. I don't know what
kind of reception you will receive. I was with a group of Bernina owners and
we  had made arrangements long before leaving the States. We got a tour from
Bernina but we were treated far more graciously at the Mettler thread
factory. They gave us a sampler box of threads and a reception with food and
drink. Go figure!  The Swiss are rather reserved people and perhaps a bunch
of enthusiastic  Americans made them uncomfortable but the Mettler people
didn't seem to have a problem with us.

Have a wonderful time - Francyne (who remembers her Swiss trip with very fond
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 95 23:59:00 UTC
Subject: Skipped Stitches

 Try using more than one layer of stabilizer. That's what I do on my Deco 500
when it doesn't look right. Sometimes you have to use 3 layers.
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 95 23:59:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Price on a 1630

 I agree that we should buy from our local dealer. My local dealer is 60
miles away, and her attitude is such that I choose not to do business with
her. I did buy two costly machines from her, and all I get is her rude
attitude. No discounts, didn't even want to give me sale prices one day
early even though she knew how far I had to drive.
If I were the only one feeling this way, I'd say I need an attitude
adjustment, but this is the general feeling about her. The sad part is that
she has some really neat people working for her, but I have it on good
sources that some of them don't like her, either.
I truly wish I could support her. Nothing would give me more pleasure. But
it's a two way street. She needs to provide better customer service.
Two years of service? Mine gives one year, and then points the finger at you
if you dare to bring in a malfunctioning machine. When the lower looper on
my serger snapped (a known and acknowledged problem) she implied that I had
done something wrong and that if it happened again it wouldn't be covered.
See what I mean? If it does happen again and she gives me a hassle, there
will be fireworks, I can assure you.
A friend of mine has referred a LOT of business to her over several years
and has never even had a thanks, much less a little gift or anything any
grateful person might extend. And she gets the same rude treatment that I do.
Sorry to go on, but I wanted to let you know I support you, in theory, but I
cannot support you in fact. I won't be coerced into spending my money with
someone who doesn't deserve it.
I'll bet you were a great dealer!
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 22:29:47 -0600
Subject: Debbie's Cabinet

Sounds like you're describing my Create-a-Space cabinet.  I love it.  It
has no lifts, but then, I always have my machine ready to run...I do make
sure to cover it though.

Date: 16 Sep 95 01:57:24 EDT
Subject: Bernina Sergers

Ladies (and Gentlemen?):

I am thinking about the possibility of getting a serger. Tell me why I should
get a Bernina (I already know why, but it is always fun to ask this question). I
currently 'drive' a 930 and would love to have a 2000DE. If I told you how we
(my sister and I) have been figuring out how to come up with the money, you'd
probably laugh. 

So, tell me why you love your Bernina serger (so I can tell my mom!)

Date: 16 Sep 95 01:57:37 EDT
Subject: Barb's reply to "Price on 1630"


Thank you for your honest message. I think I'll stick with my local Bernina
shop. Margaret is nice, smart, good, trustworthy, etc. And, very, very close.
<--probably less than a mile.

Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 05:29:55 -0400
Subject: Basic Bernina Book?

I haven't done any sewing other than mending and quilting--piecing and
quilting--for about 15 years.  I bought a 1230 in the spring because I wanted
to be able to do decent machine quilting (haven't yet done that, but that's a
whole different story).  I finally took my basic classes from the dealer and
I'm inspired!  I quickly whipped out two slips because I was down to one slip
which was four inches too short and twenty pounds too small, and want to go
on to more amibtious things.
  I know it was discussed fairly recently, but I was still into my  "the only
thing I bought this machine for is quilting'" mode.  Does anyone have any
suggestions for good basic books that will show me how to take advantage of
the goodies on the machine?  LIke what feet do what (though the class was
pretty good) and what stitches are best to put where?  I'm not yet into
decorative stitching, just your basic clothing construction.
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 06:56:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 9/14/95

Unfortuneately, there are some Bernina dealers out there who don't offer
lessons.  When I bought my 2000D serger about 5 years ago, the dealer was
over 15 miles away, and the question of lessons was never brought up.  I had
to figure it all out on my own.  I still don't know the fancy stuff on the
machine, though being online lets me learn.  
Now I am lucky to have a dealer 3 min. away and I am doing my darnest to keep
her going.  I volunteer in her store helping to cut fabric, etc.  Her store
is important to me and I want to keep her in business.!
     I looked yesterday for the #12 foot, my dealer didn't have it.  Guess
I'll have her order it.
   I'm thinking about trading down from a 1630 to a 1530, now that I have the
Deco, I really don't need the 1630's embroidery stuff.  If I do trade down, I
would like to get the scanner for the Deco with the difference, or at least
get a few cards for the Deco with the difference.  Haven't gotten the nerve
yet to ask my dealer.  I know it sounds silly, but I'm not sure I want to do
it yet.  
If I knew there was a new machine coming out, I would wait, but haven't heard
of anything.

Puzzled as ever!!

Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 10:38:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Price on a 1630

Regarding the idea of Bernina dealers not supporting each other by offering
the classes and servicing, I must say this is pretty poor business sense.  My
DH is in the military and we move every 1-3 years (and I mean cross-country
moves).  I am very sorry I bought a Bernina from the stand point of service.
 I love my 1530 but I dread the day when it needs a tune-up, etc.  Presently
there doesn't seem to be a Bernina dealer within a 1 hour drive.  In our last
town the dealer charged more if you didn't buy the machine from them.  Just
one more drawback to moving so often, I suppose.  Meanwhile if I buy another
machine I will do it where it is cheapest since I can't count on continued
good service when we move.

Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 11:46:52 -0400
Subject: Re: 1630 Quilting Stitch &1230 &1260

What about with a 1530? Paula
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 15:44:13 -0400
Subject: Re: mr. zimmerman and others

The + makes a design wider, the - makes it narrower.

The real shame of buying feet from a dealer so terribly far away is that there
are so many things that each foot does that are not discribed in the literature
that comes with the foot.

Our local dealers get wonderful pages and pages of hints and designs and clues
etc that they are ready and very willing to share with other people like their
faithful customers.  That is where I got that quilting pattern mentioned above. 
The only way you can find out about all the tricks each foot can do is by having
a relationship with your local dealer.  The Bernina Club which is supposed to
meet monthly is just chock full of special tricks of the trade.

I know that my local dealer Stere's Sewing Center in Montoursville PA.  sells
her machines at 30% off the retail price just to compete with the deep
discounters that she has to  contend with.  With the purchase of the machine she
provides up to 6 hours of lessons  depending which machine you buy.  They are
the best at machine repair, which I have not had to do as yet, and anytime you
have a question they answer it or will get the answer for you.  Gloria is
extremely patient and I feel gives more than she receives.

The scope of this buying out of your area has so many consequences that people
don't think of.  I know that if Stere's closed, The closest dealer to me would
be over an hour away.  My town would lose her real estate taxes.  My state would
lose it's sales tax.  My government would lose her income tax.  It is like a
snowball rolling down hill. It starts with just a flake and ends up like an

Now personally I like Mr. Zimmerman very much.  He is a very friendly Amishman. 
As an amish person, he is exempt from many taxes.  His farm is zoned
agricultural.  He has no overhead.  His staff is his wife and, last count I had,
9 children.   No salaries. If all our dealers could work with these
circumatances they all could sell cheaper. 
Subject: Help converting this to a 1530
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 95 13:13:12 PDT

Barbara posted the info listed below, and I would like to know if someone
could convert this formula to a 1530 for me??

I know the stitch is G2/7, and I understand the width and length, but am
not sure what the (F-8) pertains to or the in (T) 7 for the upper tention?
I do have one - &+ Balance option also.

Thanks for any advise.

>#1230 &#1260                                                          

Monofiliment thread in the needle. 50wt. cotten in the bobbin.  #16 stitch,
width 0,
length 4, Foot # 8, Balance +2, upper tension between 7 to  8 1/2.


Same threads as above top and bottom.  Feather D 2, Stitch #7, width 0,
Length 4, 
F-8, Balance +2 vertical, upper tension T 7.
Jean P
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 16:22:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Price on a 1630

>A Bernina Dealer spends tens of thousands of dollars to become a dealer and

I understand where you are coming from in your narrative, and it is an
issue  commonly addressed, but I guess I have a problem with this because I
can't see that Bernina is any different than car dealerships or many other
organizations and retail outlets.

If you are the kind of consumer that decides you want to buy a Ford and you
go to your local car dealership and buy it without checking other Ford
dealerships, I understand your position entirely. I have a close friend
like this and she drives me nuts with her shopping techniques.

On the other hand, I read the flyers to know where I go to the grocery. I
know some very nice insurance people, but I don't buy their insurance
because they are cordial and cooperative, I buy the policy where I can get
the most for the least.  If I were to buy a house, I would choose my broker
because of their ability to help me get the *most house for my money*, and
I might use several realtors before I made a final decision. And back to
the car scenario, I drive the car people crazy, but you can bet the best
bottom line is where I ultimately buy....all other things being basically
equal.  That doesn't mean I have to take my car back to them to be serviced

Almost everyone in the work force have some form of continuing education
whether it's the Maytag salesman or your local educators. Those that don't
keep abreast of the changes will get left behind.  This does have to be
built in but it should be considered part of the business expenses like

Bernina seems to take a position that makes them exempt from my style of
consumer buying.  Yes, I believe in a degree of customer loyalty, but I
don't think you have to be loyal if they aren't operating on a level
playing ground.  Loyalty, like love, can't be mandated, it has to be

We don't live in a perfect world.  All Bernina dealers were not created
equal just by using the name Bernina.  Some may want to work harder, sell
more, create volume, take smaller margins. Some will want, or need, a
multiple product mix. Personally I don't see anything wrong with
just seems like the American Way.  Retailers love people like my best
friend Carolyn, but I love to find the "best deal" on almost everything I
buy.  It doesn't necessarily endeare me to some retailers, but I know I get
more for my money that my friend Carolyn does.

Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 19:27:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Price on a 1630

Dear Petchy,

I and my Bernina Dealer agree with you.  There is no reason to support
someone that is so disagreeable.  We suggest that you write a letter to
Bernina - their address is on any 
of your warrenty cards - and express your complete disgust with her or him.
 You may 
not see any results from this immediately, but my guess is that  Bernina
keeps these letters in a file  and after so many of them are received you
just might find a closer Bernina dealer open their doors to you. 

The loopers from what I understand are two things that are not covered by the
warrenties that are past their initial time.  So many are broken because the
was used improperly, not to say that yours was.  It is a real fine line.
 There was a serger that had very slim loopers and they did have a tendency
to break more than others but that has been corrected.

Just a suggestion.  Is there any other machine dealer in your area?  You
might suggest that they investigate being a Bernina Dealer.   I would think
there would be no problem ,
I don't call 60 miles away a local dealer.
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 22:11:12 -0400
Subject: The Quilt Scene in Miami FL

I read a message from the archives (I just discovered this list a week or so
ago) awhile back that was from Sharyn who bought a Bernina from the Quilt
Scene in Miami FL.  That store is very near me, and I would probably want to
buy there if I do decide to go with a Bernina.  I would appreciate feedback
from Sharyn or anyone else who can comment on the service, prices, classes,
etc. at that store.  Also, as the name suggests, the store seems to be geared
towards quilters.  Would it be supportive of a non-quilter like me?
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 22:11:12 -0400
Subject: 1530 vs. 1630 buttonholes

Sorry my previous messages got garbled.  I hope this works better.

I am very interested in opinions on the quality and ease of the buttonhole
feature on the 1530 and 1630 models.  Someone awhile back posted a message
which mentioined, in passing, that the 1630 buttonhole was better in some
way.  I had been under the impression that the 1530 and the 1630 buttonholes
were identical.

I am considering in investing in my first (and hopefully last) computerized
machine, and am doing so mainly to get a good buttonhole.  I used to own a
60s-era Singer which had a very noisy mechanical buttonhole attachment, which
made beautiful buttonholes in a variety of styles and sizes..  The 4-step
buttonhole on my current Babylock machine is terrible. 

Given the other features of the high-end Berninas (which I've learned about
mainly from lurking on this list), I am ready to go for it, but only if the
buttonholes are really great.  I want this to be the last sewing machine I
buy.  My main interest is in clothing construction, and so would prefer the
1530 to the 1630 if the lower-priced model would suit my needs.

One final question.  I gather that none of the Bernina models prior to the
1530 have the 8 different buttonhole styles that the 1530 and 1630 have.  Is
that correct?
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 22:22:29 -0400
Subject: Funny  bobbin noise

Thanks to the suggestions re my 1260's funny bobbin noise.  I isolated it
finally to the bobbin case, which makes me really think that Sylvain may have
the right ideas as to the source.

Went to the Bennington VT show today and our most recommended local Bernina
dealer (the one who'll make an appointment for you to bring your machine in
and if possible, fix it while you wait!) was there.  I described the noise
and all the rule out stuff I'd done.  She asked if I had been cleaning and
oiling -- OH YES!  She says -- think you better bring it in. 

Well thank you!  not it's just a noise or you're imagining it etc.

So I'll call Monday and see when I can get in.  Glad to take a day off to not
lose my machine for any period of time.  Do other dealers do this?

Mary Beth G
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 23:08:10 -0400
Subject: Re: I bought my DECO, finally!

I purchased a DECO last night.  What type of embroidery thread do people
typically use?  I got some Sulky with the machine and it seems to do fine.  I
also called Madeira from a phone number I got off the internet, for a sample
and catalog.  They sent me three spools of embroider thread, one a large
serger type spool!  I thought that was nice.   Their thread looks good too,
has anyone used it.  As you can tell I am new to this.


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