Bernina Fan Club Archives

October 95

Sunday, October 8th - Saturday, October 14th

Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 10:39:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/6/95

re: Barbara about the 830 you saw.  We are Bernina dealers in Seattle, and
we've been getting $600 for 830's without fail for the past 6-7 years!  They
never sit on the shelf for more than a week or so.  So $399 sounds great to
me, but be sure to take out the hook and check the tip with your fingernail
for tiny snags, gouges, or damage that might cause you to need a new hook.
 (The hook would be $50-$125? maybe still worth it)  The other question would
be whether the motor is in good shape -it probably is - or if it had gone too
long without changing motor brushes, causing irremediable damage to the
motor, a $200 plus item. I bet the mechanic at this store will tell you about
the hook and the motor.   Actually, these risks would be worth it at $399 if
you got a warranty, 'cause the problems would show up (provided it gets used
soon).  But if the machine has few scratches around the needle plate or on
the free arm, maybe it is a low mileage machine, in which case, I say snag
More than you really wanted to know in a nutshell:
1) is the hook in good shape
2) is the motor in good shape, with still long motor brushes
3) does it come with a warranty
4) does it have scratches on top of the needle plate and on top of the free
arm indicating wear?  (it would be obvious)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:55:58 -0400
Subject: LOL satin stitch

A satin stitch is formed by placing zigzag stitches so that they lay next to
each other. There should not be any gaps between the stitches and they cannot
be so close together that they ride on top of each other. The wider the width
of the zigzag, the more tunnelling you will experience. The finer the fabric,
the more tunnelling you will experience. The secret in both cases is to use
stabilizer underneath the fabric. We are now fortunate to have many
stabilizers on the market. The key is to match the particular stabilizer to
the specific job. A partial list follows:

Sulky Solvy or Aquasolv - plastic like sheets,dissolvable in water, be sure
to use only on washable fabrics, great for fine fabrics for heirloom sewing,
perfect for monogramming towels because you can draw the monogram onto the
solvy in order to see your pattern and to keep the loops from interfering
(place solvy on top of towel) and it will disappear without a trace, when
used underneath you will need multiple layers.

Perfect Sew- this is a liquid which you paint onto the fabric, can be made at
home by dissolving solvy in water, can place it only where needed, i.e. along
the line of stitching, don't use it on thick fabrics like sweatshirts because
the fleece will soak up too much, use only on washable fabrics, greatest
advantage: disappears without a trace

Pellon Stitch and Tear - nonwoven, tearaway stabilizer, works very well and
tears away close to stitching but leaves telltale wispys around stitching so
not appropriate to use on the top or edges where it will show

Rinse-a-Way - nonwoven, water soluble stabilizer, works very well but leaves
telltale wispys around stitching so not appropriate to use on the top or
edges where it will show

Sulky Totally Stable - nonwoven, temporarily irons onto the fabric to hold it
in place, works very well for wovens and is especially good for knits because
it prevents them from stretching, tears away after stitching

No one stabilizer is best for all applications. Some of the above will be
found in your local chain store and others can be purchased through the major
mailorder sources. Using typing paper or freezer paper as a stabilizer is
acceptable but they dull your needle very quickly.

FEET: Be sure to use either foot #6 or the open toe #20 foot for all satin
stitch embroidery. These feet have deep, wide grooves underneath to allow the
stitches to flow away from the back of the foot.

TENSION: Decrease the top tension to get a nice, rounded appearance to your
satin stitch or thread the bobbin thread through the hole in the finger for
those of you who have an oscillating bobbin.

STITCH LENGTH: On mechanical machines, turn your stitch length knob clockwise
until it won't turn anymore. The dash on the dial should be pointing to 12
o'clock. Turn the dial 1/2 turn until the dash is pointing to 6 o'clock. This
is your basic satin stitch setting. If it is too tight, turn the dial toward
5 o'clock and if it is too loose, turn it to 7 o'clock. The computer machines
have extra marks between 0 and 1/2 on the stitch length dial to denote the
basic satin stitch setting. Use your balance buttons to fine tune the stitch
because each LCD light is too large a jump for this purpose.

I'm sorry that this post got so long - sometimes I don't know when to stop.I
hope that the above explanation helps to clarify some of your questions -
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:51:35 -0400
Subject: Who am I?

Although I have never received the post, it has come to my attention that
someone asked if I was a Bernina dealer in a former life. Yes. I owned a
fabric store with a Bernina dealership until last December . I have owned a
Bernina since 1974 and  worked for 2 other Bernina dealers. I own an 801,
830, 1630, 234, and 2000DE and have sewn on and taught guide classes for most
of the other models with the exception of the 930 since I was not associated
with Bernina during that time. I love the machine and shamelessly promote it
at every opportunity. I love this list and eagerly look forward to reading
the posts every day. I enjoy sharing my knowledge with all of you and will
continue to do so as long as you are interested in what I have to say.

Have you hugged your Bernina today? - Francyne 
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 95 14:41:01 -0500
Subject: Steam-a-Seam etc.

Love the spelling of your name, Jacque --

Steam-a-Seam is a new fusible having one sticky side.  You draw your design on
the non-sticky side, then place the sticky side onto the wrong side of the
fabric.  It stays in place while you cut out the design.  It has two advantages
over Wonder Under -- it eliminates one ironing step, and it is softer to the
hand after fusing.  I have had no bleed-thru with it (as I have with
Heat-n-Bond) and no unfused spots after ironing (as I have had with Aileene's &
Wonder Under).  It also seems to hold the threads at the edges of the applique
exceptionally well.  It comes as either a long 1/4" strip (which I haven't used)
or in 1-yard pieces (I think the width is about 20").  Clotilde's mailorder
carries both types; Hancock's has the yardage type.  I haven't seen it in fabric
stores; however, a quilt shop demonstrated its use at a recent guild meeting.

Incidentally, Steam-a-Seam doesn't take well to pencil; ballpoint pen works
okay.  Don't make the mistake I did at first, which is to trace patterns onto
the paper that backs the sticky side (my Wonder Under experience showing); you
draw directly on the non-sticky side.  Although skeptical at first, I find this
stuff really speeds up my fusible applique work.  I very much like the relative
softness of it too.  It has been unfussy and reliable for me; a cotton steam
setting on the iron has done a perfect fusing job every time (unlike some others
when I wondered if perhaps I shouldn't have used steam, should have used more
pressure, should have used a cooler iron, or should have fused for a shorter or
longer period of time).  In the demo I saw it was highly recommended for
patching clothes due to its strong bond and soft hand.

BTW, I recommended the wrong foot for the satin stitch.  The #6, #20 and #23
feet all have the indentation that allows the stitches to pass under the foot;
the #1 does not!  If you turn the foot upside down, what you are looking for is
a V-shaped indentation with the wide end at the rear of the foot.  The wide end
allows for easy maneuvering around curves, as the stitches stay within the
indentation even as you are rounding a corner.  (Now I know why the Bernina mm
setting was too demanding for my skill level; I was using the wrong foot!  My
problem was thread pile-up around curves and corners.)

I like Steam-a-Seam so much I want to try some buttonhole applique with it.  I
got some black #12 perle cotton and plan to try that in a #90 or #100 jeans
needle.  Has anyone tried this?  I think it is the right thickness to give me
the effect I want, but I am a little concerned about possibly damaging the
machine or throwing it out of time by using such a thick thread, and one that
isn't designed for machine use too.  I would be going slowly but would like to
do a whole alphabet quilt with it.  Some time ago I experimented with running
two regular threads through the needle to get a hand appliqued look, but I was
never sufficiently satisfied  with the result to attempt a big project.

Does anyone know what would cause a 1230 to skip stitches during free-motion
quilting when the feed dogs are dropped?  This is the only problem I have with
my machine (started after machine fell over in the trunk of my car).  I have put
off taking it in for servicing for fear the problem won't be fixed.  I will
bring in a sample of the problem, but I'm not sure the repairman will be versed
in free-motion quilting and this is the *only* time the problem occurs.  Any
information I can give him would be appreciated, as I dread the thought of
having to take the machine back again, and again, and again.  BTW, I'm sure it's
not the needle, the throat plate or me; it worked just fine before the accident
in the car.  TIA.

Mary in getting-colder-MN
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:47:09 -0700
Subject: Re: Portable ironing Boards

Hi - I just cut a piece of plywood about 14 x 17 and wrapped it in a bath
towel, slipped a pillow case over it, quilt pinned it shut.  Every now and
then, I throw the cover in the wash.  Quick!    Hugs, Andrea

Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 17:17:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/7/95

Jill- Yes you can do a poem on the Deco.  I just finished machine quilting a
top for a friend, I did the label on the deco.  It said, This is my Quilt!!!!
 It had her name and the date on it.  Came out really neat.  
I used the canvas type fabric, framed it with the Deco framing stitch and
then sewed it to the back of the quilt.  Looks really sharp.
I  think you will like the deco, I have been pleased so far.  I just did a
log cabin necktie and I used an embroidery design of a fork and spoon .  Most
of the fabrics were food related ones, so it matched nicely.  
It is a hard decision to make, but I'm glad I made it.  Haven't gone to get
my 1530 yet, it will take me a while to pack up my 1630.  I don't think I
will miss it.  I haven't used the embroidery stuff at all since I got the
Deco,Now I am on a mad rush to sell items to get money for the scanner.  I am
selling the 3 keys I have for the 1630, the library I have for the 1630, plus
an old Singer machine that I used to keep at school.  
Good luck in your decision.  Keep us posted.  
Maybe if enough of us do it, Bernina will get the message that the 1630 has
some bugs left in it.
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:54:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Deco 500 personality

Jill asked if the Deco 500 is tempermental. Not at all. The only remotely
tempermental thing about it is that it seems to prefer the metal bobbins to
the plastic ones. It also likes cone thread to come off of a thread stand but
this is no big deal. The threads on a cylinder lay very nicely on their
sides. You can write a poem or anything you want on it. If the text exceeds
the 3-1/2" area, you do the first part, then move the fabric over in the hoop
and do more. 

Since we're on the subject of writing, one of the vests I want to do is a
computer vest with the quiltnet block on it and line drawings of computers,
printers, etc. embroidered on it with the Deco and possibly machine appliqued
floppy disks and who knows what all. I also have some computer humor to
emboider with the Deco. My question is, has anyone seen computer fabric, or
fabric with floppy disks or anything computer related? If so, do you know the
manufacturer of the fabric and who might have it for mail order?

Mary M
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:20:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Little iron &pad

Yes, I would very much like to have the directions!
Date: Sun,  8 Oct 95 23:45:00 UTC
Subject: Steam-a-Seam etc.

I have a question, how does the steam on steam work after you apply it to
the wrong side of the fabric, does it stick to the background fabric while
you are sewing the applique in place.
Secondly, are you sure the thread is threaded correctly when you are sewing
and getting those skipped stitches.  I am trying desparately to remember
what was wrong with my machine when it happened to me,  I will call my
dealer tho, in the morning to see if he can tell me, then I will post it for
you.  Or, someone else will come along and tell you I am sure.
Take care, and hope the problem gets solved for you.
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 20:50:55 -0400
Subject: Putting the cart before the horse

Now I really have to buy that new sewing machine I've been thinking, and
posting to this list, about for the last few months.  I was in the
neighborhood of a very good, and expensive, fabric store near me yesterday
and picked up and end-of-bolt bargain on some imported cotton voile that
would be ideal for a blouse.  But I really don't dare trust my present
machine (a mechanical Baby Lock) with this fabric.  

When, I get my new machine, hopefully this week, then I may make this my
inaugural project with it.  I may even try the technique described in this
month's Threads about starching soft fabric to make it easier to work with.
 The article described this method for sewing silky fabrics, but it should
work with soft cottons as well.  I wonder if there is any danger from the
starch gunking up the needle or mechanism.  Anyone have any ideas?
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 22:50:18 -0400
Subject: Bernina digest archives

The archives of the Bernina Digest postings are located at 

After I discovered this list a month or so ago I promptly downloaded, and
read at my leisure, the archives of all the earlier digests beginning in
November 1994.  As the current digests get archived I will download them as
well so that I can then clean out my e-mail in-box. They are a great
resource; plus the advantage for me of having them downloaded instead of just
as e-mail is that I can then search them for keywords that I may be
interested in (such as "buttonhole" my current obsession).

By the way, who is it that originated the idea of doing this list in the
first place, and who is the Sue that maintains the list.  Those like me who
came to the list late in the game might be interested in knowing this
history.  In any case, this is a fun list!

Date: Mon,  9 Oct 95 03:09:00 UTC
Subject: Re: DECO 500 personality

 You might consider buying the large hoop for your poems. That way you can
just move the hoop to the next position without having to rehoop the fabric.
I am truly in lust of this machine. I've been experimenting with different
threads lately. Had some problems with the Sulky Sliver, but I saw during
this download that someone on GEnie was giving me some hints. So many of the
people there have Deco's that it's easy to get answers when you're having a
problem. We even have swaps of the creations we make with them. Since so
many of the roundtable people are quilters, we swap 9-1/2" squares decorated
with the Deco. Some people have the scanner and some have a lot of the
cards, so there's no end of information.
Date: Mon,  9 Oct 95 03:09:00 UTC
Subject: LOL- Satin Stitch

 Thanks for the info on the stabilizers. I'm still working my way through
that jungle, having just bought a Deco 500.
One of the hints on the GEnie Needlearts board that I really liked was to
save all the little scraps of Solvy (it's expensive!) and dissolve them in
water to use as the brush on you described.
Recently I purchased the card with the large florals and have been a little
chicken to try them because they looked so complicated, what with moving the
hoop and all. But the other night I bit the bullet and did the pansys. They
are gorgeous and moving the hoop was no problem at all. I had thought it
needed rehooping, but in reality there are three positions for it (you have
to buy the large hoop for this card) and all you do is take it off and move
it to the next position and keep on stitching.
I tell you, this machine is a wonder!
Date: Mon,  9 Oct 95 03:09:00 UTC
Subject: Who am I?

 I, for one, treasure your posts! Everything you have to say helps me since I
am a new Bernina owner. And yes, I hugged all three of my Berninas today
(1530, Deco 500 and 2000DE).
I don't know if I mentioned it, but I've been in the process of creating a
studio out of some space below my guest house. It evidently had been a
studio or workroom of some sort in a previous life, so all I did was carpet
it, paint it and am now waiting for my husband to put in new light fixtures
and upgrade the plugs. Two drawbacks are that it's  not connected to the
house, so I'll have to dash for it in the winter, and it has no bathroom.
UGH. Another dash. :) But it's big, has south facing windows and it's all
MINE. I ache all over from carrying stuff down there all weekend, but it's
just about ready to go. Oh, it has a fireplace in it. Can't wait to have a
fire burning while I sew.
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 95 02:27:25 UT
Subject: Bernina Table

Do you know if Bernina still makes the quilting/sewing table?  My wife, 
Susan is trying to find one and not having much success.  

Any ideas or 
leads about how I can find one for her I would appreciate.
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 07:33:25 -0400
Subject: Re: DECO Scanner

My biggest problem is not streatching the fabric tight enough in the hoop.
 On loose fabric I iron on a stablizer.  Works much better.
Someone was looking for the name of the dealer I got my scanner from and a
great price.  I can't promice you will get the same price but hear is the

Sew Express
3253 Navaire Ave
Oregon Ohio 43614

I would like to see info on using the scanner, any tips or no nos.
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 04:44:31 -0700
Subject: Re: Little iron &pad

Directions from Mc Call's Crafts #6278 
You need: 1/2 yd. of 45" Teflon fabric
          1/2 yd. of 45" quilted fabric
          1/2 yd  of 45" fleece
          14" ribbon for handles
          2 1/2 yd ribbon for ties
           Binding tape     
Ironing panel:
    Baste fleece to wrong side of quilted fabric (save time use iron on 
    With wrong sided together pin Telfon to quilted pad having edges 
even baste together.
    For handles pin 5/8" ribbon to quilted fabric pad about 7" from 
outside edges right sides together  Cut ribbon for ties into 4 equal 
lenghts pin two lengths of ribbon to each side of wider ribbon sew in 
    Bind outer edges of pad
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:20:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Price for an 830

Reply to Barbara

I was told my 830 Bernina was blue booked at $232.  I offered it on a trade
with the walking foot and the cut and sew.  I also have several other feet
to be included if they don't fit on the 1630 I am negotiating.  Total trade
in was $350.  Hope this helps

Peggy Q
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/6/95

>When I purchased my 1230 about 5 years ago I sold my 930 with all its extra 
attachments for $600.  I since learned that I might have been able to get a 
little more.  A lot of people like the mechanical models and don't trust the 
computer sewing machines.  I wished I could have kept my 930 for my girls to 
learn to 
sew on.  So I say $400 for a 830 might be a good deal.

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:35:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Should I trade inmy 1630...?

I recently got a Deco and 1090 instead of the 1630 I thought I wanted, and
have been very pleased with the Deco so far.  If you do a lot of embroidery,
I think you will find the Deco more satisfactory and convenient than any
combo machine.  My dealer actually suggested getting the two machines, and I
think she was correct.  There is a large hoop available as an accesory that
can be positioned at three different places that would probably accomodate
your poems.  The centering and layout functions make it possible to rehoop if
necessary, and if you mark carefully, there should be no noticeable break.
 Why don't you go play at your dealers and see if you can do a poem on their
demo? Good luck!   Linda
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:06:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/8/95

Hello Deco Lovers!

I am having a great time with my Deco............sorry to say there just
aren't enough hours in the day to do all I want.
If you have a scanner ..........I have found if you sew the outline first and
then fill in the colors it looks much better.
Someone said that the metal bobbins work dealer sell only
plastic bobbins.........are the metal bobbins Bernina bobbins?  If you know
who makes them..size or anything........please let me know.
Happy Decoing!
Pris F
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:23:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/8/95

I used my Deco last night, I used card 15, and embroidered a dressed up kitty
cat on the front of my daughter's demin jumper.  It looks fabulous.  I am
really impressed now.

Right now I am making a Casper costume.  The body part was easy, the head is

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 16:04:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Large hoop on Deco 500

Petchy suggested the large hoop.  I HAVE the large hoop. Some things you
write have to be moved along beyond the limitations of the large hoop as
well. Guess I am just too verbal.

Mary M
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 15:29:22 -0400
Subject: Bernina Deco 500 or the Viking 1+ ?

        I'm considering buying my wife the Deco 500 for her birthday.
However, I recently stopped by a local Husqvarna dealer and had the model
#1+ demo'ed to me.

        I was very impressed with the capabilities of the #1+ machine.  Of
course, you also paid for the extra features.  In my area, I can buy the
Deco 500 for around $1500.  The #1+ was going for $2700.


        The Bernina dealer only has a 4" scanner for the Deco 500.  Does
Bernina offer a PC software program to create and then download the image to
program the ram card?  (The Viking does for around $1200.)

        How well does the Deco 500 scanner work?  Is it difficult to create
custom designs?

        How difficult is it to sew on Polo shirts and shirts/sweaters made
with thicker material?

        I have on order a Bernina 1090 for my wife.  I hope it was the right
machine for her.  (Of course, if the scanner for the Deco 500 works well I
can then convince my wife that we need a new HP scanner for my PC....To scan
in all the neat designs for her to sew!)

Thanks for any help and advice!

Brian R
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 15:48:00 -0400 (EDT)

Hello! I am a college student in North Carolina and involved in a
strip-pieced wall hanging for my mom (who also sews). I was wondering if
there were any helpful hints in the construction of this project. It is a
mountain scene with water, and has taken a good deal of time to cut the
pieces and sew them, since they are so thin. In addition, it is difficult
to sew them without warping them. I am using a 1530 (I love it!!). Thanks!
Stitching between sewing in school,
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:58:11 -0700 (MST)
Subject: LOL  - Satin stitches

I'm not an expert, but last week, I had a come-with-my-machine lesson
that covered this, so here's some of the information we were given:

Needles:  Important that they not be dull or burred.  Recommended using
          only sharp needles.  I had only universal point needles &they
          seemed to work fine

Thread:   Don't use regular polyester sewing thread - it doesn't lie flat
          enough. Recommended cotton embroidery thread or rayon thread

Foot:     Must have a groove in the bottom so that the stitches can move
          under it.  The #6 that comes with the machine or #20 are good.

Stabilizer:  Needed to avoid puckering, especially if using a wide stitch.

Setting Stitch Width/Tension:   Don't make the stitch width too short.
 	The |||  setting on my machine is too short, needed to increase
        the stitch width a little.  Loosen the top tension a little - I
   	started at 4 and had to go down to about 3.5 (but it varies). The
	bobbin thread shouldn't show on top, and the top thread should
	show underneath on both sides of every stitch.  Tweak tension &
	width until you're happy with it.  If you rub your finger over the
	stitching, it shouldn't stick up too far. It should feel pretty flat.

More Information:  There's a flyer on satin stitching available in Bernina
	shops that costs about 80 cents. If you really want lots of info,
	Harriet Hargreaves has a book on machine applique - that's highly

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:50:02 -0400

I sit and read all your messeges everyday and have a question to pose to you
all,"What do you expect and really want from a good dealer? I really am
considering becoming a dealer if location and Bernina permits. Would love to
hear all comments and suggestions pertaining to opening a buisness. Have been
sewing for over 25 years and have always wanted to do this. Thanks for all
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:14:21 -0400
Subject: skipped stitches

About the skipped stitches when doing free motion quilting ..if you are using
the 29 ft. then switch to the 24 ft. there is too much clearance for thinner
battings or fleece with the 29 ft. It is great for free motion beading
 !!!!!! PR
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 01:16:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 10/8/95

    On trying to do the buttonhole stitch with pearl cotton...have you
thought of doing bobbin work????  This is where you wind the pearl cotton on
the bobbin, then sew with the wrong side up (top thread is regular
thread)...the pearl cotton will then be on the right side.  This works
great...though you may have problems seeing the edge of the applique.
 I don't think it'll work threading pearl cotton through the needle
(definitely not with a 90!).  I think you'd have better luck with bobbin
    On your machine being out of time...I'd give the dealer one shot to fix
it.  If it's not fixed, you're only out the cost of one visit.  If it gets
fixed, you're in business.  Tell him that your machine was in an accident so
that they know what to look for.
Date: 10 Oct 95 00:44:43 EDT
Subject: Putting the cart before the horse

I have used a half-and-half solution of water and liquid starch to stabilize
background fabrics for machine applique and have never noticed any problems with
it.  Debra Wagner, an award-winning machine quilter (*and* I saw her Bernina!),
has a couple of books out which recommend routine spray starching of fabrics.  I
have never heard of starch gumming up anything; however, I would be very
interested in a more scientific approach to the question in case there's some
problem associated with doing a lot of it over a long period of time.

Date: 10 Oct 95 00:44:45 EDT
Subject: Steam-a-Seam etc.


The sticky side of the Steam-a-Seam adheres to the wrong side of the applique
pieces without ironing.  With Wonder Under you have to iron at this point and
the bond becomes permanent.  With Steam-a-Seam you can actually move it around
if you change your mind before cutting the pieces; the stickiness is similar to
the sticky part of a Post-It note.  After you cut out your pieces and place them
on the background fabric, you iron to permanently bond the pieces together (just
like Wonder Under) so yes, they do stick to the background fabric while you
satin stitch around the edges.

One of the things I hadn't thought of till now is that you could assemble your
entire applique picture and then, if you didn't like the fabric of one of the
pieces, you could just peel the Steam-a-Seam off that piece, place it on another
fabric and cut that fabric using the outline of the Steam-a-Seam as a guide.
This would work particularly well with satin-stitch applique; it wouldn't matter
if the fusible didn't exactly meet the edge of the second fabric you cut because
the satin stitches entirely cover the edge threads anyway.  You just need good
eyes for the second cutting because the Steam-a-Seam is somewhat transparent.

Hope this helps clarify.  I finished a small Santa wallhanging in record time
using this stuff and it looks *wonderful* (unlike some UFO's which will remain

I will be taking my 1230 in for servicing soon and will attach a sample of the
skipped stitches during free-motion quilting.  Maybe it's a minor timing problem
caused by the fall in the trunk of the car?  I never had the problem before

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 08:48:42 -0400

Hi All,

I'm delurking to ask a question. I have been reading the list for sometime
now. I own a 1090 which I bought about 3 1/2 yrs ago. It is a great machine.
I live in Palm Bay Fl and we are fortunate to have a great quilting &Bernina
store in our area. 

Now for my question. I am currently quilting a queen size log cabin "barn
raising" quilt. When free motion quilting, with feed dogs down, when going
backwards it seems the top thread gets caught on something and pulls a bit
and then lets go. I am using monofilament in the top and cotton in the bobbin.
Most of the time the stitching turns out okay, but sometime the top thread does
get pulled to the back. Anyone else experience this? and any ideas on how to
correct this? It only seems to happen when going backwards.

Thanks in advance. This is a great list to read.

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 09:34:34 -0400

Someone posted a question about using pearl cotton in the needle and my itchy
trigger finger deleted the post so I am not even sure that the question was
asked on this mail list. I have used Mettler Cordonnet Topstitching thread
which is similar to #8 pearl cotton. It is slightly smaller in diameter
although it is a tighter twist than pearl cotton. I used a 90 topstitch
needle which has a larger eye and thread groove than a regular 90 needle. I
used  the open-type pattern stitches (rather than satin-type stitches) such
as honeycomb, feather, etc., increased the stitch length to 4 with regular
metrosene thread in the bobbin and increased the top tension to 7 so that the
heavy thread lays on the top of the fabric. The stitches look very nice and
are far more prominent than they would be with regular thread even multiple
strands. Try it - you might like it.

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:10:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/7/95

Did you know that Berninas are also going to be on the new movie coming out
called "How to Make and American Quilt?"  I'm reading the book
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:10:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/8/95

To Mary in getting-colder MN about your skipping stitches.....
It might be helpful for your mechanic to know what direction you're usually
going when it skips.  Maybe it just skips when you go sideways or to the
rear.....If a regular tuneup to set timing, needle-hook clearance, needle
depth doesn't fix it, though, it almost sounds like the head is
bent.....especially if it fell on its nose....hopefully not.
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 07:37:05 -0700
Subject: Re: Putting the cart before the horse

My experience with starching has been very good.  I would test with a scrap
first, but the starch seems to be the best sewing aid I have ever used.  I
use the liquid starch, so I control the amount of stiffness.  I have always
liked liquid starch over the spray starch.  (You mix it yourself, with
water)  I also use a hairspray bottle to starch because the spray comes out
much more misty, than in drops or streams.  That really keeps from getting
stiff "spots" all over that are hard to get out.  

Hope this helps

Anna H
Subject: request for recommendations on sewing machines and where/how to buy
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 9:29:08 PDT

My wife wants to get rid of her old Sears Kenmore sewing machine and upgrade
to a very good one.  We drove around to 2 sewing machine stores yesterday, and
looked at some models.  My wife is interested in the Bernina machines, 
Model 1090 in particular.  She really likes the knee-lever feature.  Anyway, 
I know nothing at all about sewing, and I'm just trying to get some 
recommendations to give her regarding different types and models of sewing 
machines, and also recommendations on where/how to buy one - i.e., what stores
in the SF Bay Area are good places to buy sewing machines (particularly 
Bernina) or is mail-order a good option?  If so, who from?

I suspect that recommendations for a particular manufacturer or model depends
very much on the type of sewing my wife does, and all I know is that she is
more into making clothes than anything else - but I'm sure there is a lot
of variation there in what kind of sewing machine one could want to have.

Any recommendations and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.  Please excuse
me if there is a FAQ on this already - if so, please send it to me or tell me
how to get it.  

Thanks very much in advance,

	Curt K
Date: 10 Oct 95 13:49:14 EDT
Subject: Re: Should I trade in my 1630 ... ?

 >> I recently got a Deco and 1090 instead of the 1630 I thought I wanted, <<

 I recently purchased a 1090, and after attending my guide classes, I decided I
 wanted a 1630.  However, after seeing the Deco 500 and all its goodies, I too
 I will stay with my 1090, and use the price difference for the Deco.  It just
 like such a cool machine !! At this time, I'm not sure I know how much I would
use it
 but I am getting ideas from everyone online.

 Please keep talking about your special projects, because it helps those of us
still deciding to picture what we personally would use it for !!

Date: 10 Oct 95 13:49:26 EDT
Subject: Sewing Studio


 You are so very lucky to have such a neat place to sew.  I, unfortunately, am
stuck at
 the kitchen table.  I don't have anywhere to set up a place of my own !! I
grew up in a house with a basement and always assumed I'd have one too. 
However there are no basements in Dallas, so I can't even resort to that !! 
Oh well, I am making up a wish list for my next home, and at the top it says
"Sewing room for ME !" so perhaps someday.

 I'm sure the dashes through the winter will be well worth the pleasure of
sewing with a roaring fire next to you.  Enjoy your room, and know that I am
green with envy .

Date: 10 Oct 95 13:49:33 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 10/9/95

 I have had my 1090 since August and I love it.  I took all of the guide
classes offered by my dealer and found out many things it can do that I didn't
realize.  It is a really good machine.

 From what I have been reading on this board, your wife will love the Deco 500.
 It is my understanding that you cannot use a regular scanner in place of the
one Bernina sells (good try though !!).

 Also, if for some reason your wife wants a fancier machine, most dealers offer
a 100% trade-in for a certain time period after your purchase.  For example,
my dealer in Dallas offers me a 6-month time frame to trade-in my 1090 for the
full price I paid.  I can put this toward any other machine in their store. 
Check with your dealer just to make sure.

 Hope this helps.

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:21:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/9/95

Re: Bobbins for the Deco, you use the same bobbins as for the 1630....Have
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 00:16:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 10/9/95

    I want to learn to machine quilt...when do I use the 29 foot and when do
I use the 9 foot.  Is there an advantage to using the 24 vs the 9??  I'm
afraid of using the 24 foot because I think I could catch something on the
opening (then again, if you're doing the stitching appropriately close, you
probably couldn't catch it on the foot).
    I've done lots of strip piecing with small pieces.  It takes practice.
Have you tried the patchwork foot #37???  I find it easier to use than the
1/4" foot for my old Elna.  Make sure to sew slower if you're sewing over
seam allowances...I find that the work "moves" whenever you go over seam
allowances.  I set the needle down, sew slow, and adjust
frequently...especially with small may want to stop every 2
stitches while going over seam allowances to ensure that it doesn't move.
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:45:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Nancy Zieman's Pivot and Slide

   If more people would buy patterns according to Nancy's size determination
chart, more people would love to sew!  There is no way an 18 would do
anything but make me disappear, but that is what my measurement says I
need...her way is an 8 and it works great because it fits where it needs to
and I adjust where I need to!!!!!  

   As for the Pivot and Slide technique, it takes some getting used to, but
once you understand the premise behind it and how your body really measures
up against the pattern, you will love working this way.  She really shows us
not only how to enlarge and reduce patterns, but gives instructions on how to
make a pattern become your own. The video of the new Fitting Finesse book
only goes through the first half of the book, so definitely buy the book and
rent the video...

   I'm not associated with Nancy in any way other than I contribute heavily
to her bottom line each year around now...and I love her fitting ideas!!!!!!!

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:00:00 -0400
Subject: Broke down and bought the 830

Well, I took the plunge!  I think I need a 12 step program for sewing machine
collector's - Bernina's to be exact!!  I just couldn't pass the deal up,
thanks to everyone for their advice.

As it turns out, the extra feet included with the machine were the 156
(pintuck?), 028 - (pintuck), 528 (cording?), 003 (rolled hem?), 168 (rolled
hem?), (174 (don't have a clue- can someone please tell me....),  a shank
adapter, and a Bernina Walking foot.  Can anyone guess how much all of these
would have cost me if I bought them? (To make me feel better about spending
the money....because they will fit my 930).

The dealer I bought it at also gave me a one year parts and labor warranty,
several bobbins and sewing machine needles.  The case and accessories were in
perfect condition.  I paid the full $399 because I felt with the extras and
especially the one year warranty from a sewing machine dealer I trust was
worth a little extra.

Now I have to work on my stories as to why I needed this machine!!  Now I
have an 830, a 930, an Elna Pro5DC serger, a DECO, and my grandmother's old
black Singer which is sentimental to me.  I think the 830 would be great to
use at my summer cabin in North Carolina while I'm on vacation, only hitch
with that story is that I have to get the cabin first!!!! (working on
that..buying sewing machines doesn't help with this goal!..)

I must confess that a big part of buying this orphan was observing how many
toys all of you have, I didn't realize how many women had a lot of machines (
and top of the line ones) until I started reading the Bernina and AOL
bulletin boards.  And I can justify a lot of "acquisition crimes" with the
fact that I am making do with my 930(what a saint!), after all I could go out
and buy the latest!  So everyone keep buying those machines to make me feel

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 19:19:28 +0800 (HKT)
Subject: Shipping my Bernie Home

Hi, everyone, I've been lurking for some time now, and now I have a
question.  I'm getting ready to move back to the states from Hong Kong andIi
need to send my Bernina ahead of me so I won't go crazy in California while
I job hunt, car shop, unpack etc. You know the disease, you just gotta sew
to relax.
Does anyone have experience shipping sewing machines?  I know the
manufacturer ships them but I don't know which way is best.  FedEx, UPS,
DHL??? For sure i won't use the China Post!!!   I have the original packing
and the box for my 1630, but is that enough protection?  Please e-mail me if
you have any suggestions for getting my "piece of mind" back safely to America.
i'm so ready to be back in the states, you don't realize how good it is 'til
you're gone.  There's a song there somewhere.  
Thank you for any wisdom.  Maybe some dealers would have a suggestion?

Finishing my UFO's in Hong Kong, only 5 more to go.
I brake for Bernina's
Subject: Re: Dealer Comments

>The question was posed "What do you want from a dealer?"  There are a
few things that are essential.  I live in a town of about 30,000 people.  There
was a dealer in my town who sold Berninas but I purchased my 1230 in a
town that is about 40 miles away.  Why?  One of the reasons was the dealer
in this town did not have a good Bernina club.  She carries other brands and
when you go into her shop most of the town the husband is there and he
doesn't know a thing about sewing.  He will say that to ask his wife.  Of
course she isn't there which means another trip.  The dealer out of town 
offers an array of classes.  They have classes to interest everyone.  Not 
everyone is a quilter.  They have classes in basic sewing, heirloom sewing,
applique, serging, classes for kids to learn to sew.  These are just a few 
of the
classes.  She knows she is not an expert in all these different techniques so
she has excellent teachers to come into her shop and teach these classes.
She knows if people take these classes it will mean more money for her.
People ususally need to buy the speciality foot to do the classes.  I purchases
the #20 foot because I wanted to do applique better.  I  purchases several
feet when I took an heirloom sewing class.  I purchased the a couple of feet
when I took the quiliting by machine class.  Shirley Warren is one of 
Bernina's best dealers.  Every year she wins awards for selling a certain 
number of machines.  Hope this informations helps a little and good luck if
you diecide to be a dealer.

Kay D
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:57:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Strip Piecing

     Have you ever heard about foundation piecing. The basic idea is that 
     you draft your pattern on to either paper (butcher paper or freezer 
     paper) or muslin and then piece directly on to it.  Sorry if that 
     doesn't sound too clear.  There are some great books out on the 
     subject one is called Precision Piecing using the Foundation Method by 
     D. Hall and someone else (sorry I can't remember the whole thing).  I 
     use it all the time. It really does help with accuracy and in my 
     opinion, makes a difficult piece much, much easier.  Hopefully, some 
     one else will be able to give you better directions.
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:36:48 -0400
Subject: Locating a Bernina Store

The Bernina store that my wife has frequented for the last few years no
longer exists. Do you have suggestions regarding how to locate another one?

We live in Dayton, Ohio.

Thank you.

Montie F
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 06:48:01 -0700
Subject: Re: Dealer Comments

I really like my dealers.  They are wonderful.  (Bernina Sewing Center,
Englewood, CO)
I just purchased a 1001 and a Bernette 134D from them.  They really stand
behind their product and it shows.  Your contact with them does not end when
you sign the papers and walk out with the machine.  They give you free
classes to learn the various stitches on your machine.  They offer various
classes as well, but if you are having a problem with your machine, (even if
it is something silly), they are always "Happy" to help you.  The atmosphere
of their store is to come on in.  

I might also add, they DID NOT attempt to push me into a machine that I
wasn't ready for.  They asked what I was looking for, of course, and did not
point me in the direction of the most expensive model.  Instead, they
pointed me in the direction of the 1000, 1001 area and asked me if I would
like to try this one out.  I probably went in there and took a test drive 3
or 4 times before I purchased my machines.  They were patient and

I received a call about a week after my purchase, just to see if I was doing
okay and if I was satisfied with my purchases and my service.  (She also
reminded me that I could come in any time if I had any problem what so
ever!)  They have kept in contact with me ever since.  

I know this is wordy.  Sorry.  The moral of the story I guess is that they
make every customer feel special, whether they purchase the top of the line
or the little guy.  I reccomend not only the Bernina, but this particular
Bernina Dealer to my friends who ask about machines.  They are THAT Good!

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 09:36:40 EDT
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine Recommendations

If it is financially possible, I would get the 1260 or 1530 for clothing
construction.  The buttonhole function is particularly good on these two
models.  Either one would give her extra possibilities that she would love.

Ruth B
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:35:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina DECO 500 or Viking +1?


        Will you call my husband!  I have been wanting a Deco 500, but to
have a man volunteer to buy it for his wonderful.  You get 12

Peggy Q
Subject: Nice people/Tiger Lily
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 12:02:00 EST

I just returned from a week's vacation in the Adirondacks and would like to 
share some insights with other working people who squeeze in their stitching 
where they can. First of all, if you get an opportunity to hide out in a 
rural house with electricity and plumbing, but no phone or TV -- pack up 
your Bernina and go for it! My husband and I found our little Eden in 
Forestport, on the Black River in Upstate New York.

Second, rural readers, congratulate yourselves on the paradise you live in; 
and, urban readers, congratulate yourselves on your proximity to bounties of 
fabric and notions. I live in Rockville, Maryland, and frequent three truly 
fine stores (and can probably get to 10 more) within 15 minutes of my house. 
Deferred gratification is seldom necessary. My recent experience gave me new 
respect for how much some people have to plan ahead in their shopping.

One day, I quilted for 13 hours, stopping only for lunch. Heaven. Our last 
day, though, a storm took out a phone pole -- and the electricity with it -- 
so DH and I drove further into the woods and all that autumn color, to Old 
Forge, where there was a quilt show. Inspired, I asked where the town's 
fabric store was. There was none, but three ladies gathered around to help 
this visitor. One lady suggested the (former) Ben Franklin in Boonville 
(30-45 minutes). I'd been there earlier in the week for thread -- not what I 
had in mind. Another said, no, go to Utica (1 1/4 hour?), and gave me very 
complicated directions to a place called Tiger Lily Quilt Co. For DH's sake, 
we stopped on the way for a brewery tour, where we asked for some more 
directions to Tiger Lily. The lady at the gift shop insisted on phoning the 
store and getting the best possible route. Much discussion. When we arrived 
at Tiger Lily, we found a charming, well-stocked shop and personnel who 
completed the conspiracy of nice people who wanted to help us find what we 

My third point: If you're near Utica ("near" is relative), visit Tiger Lily, 
but call first for directions. You simply can't see it from the road 
(Oriskany St/Whiteboro St)--it's behind the printer--if you get to the 
billboard with the cows on it, you've gone too far...
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:48:20 -0400
Subject: Re: Strip Piecing

To cut down on "warping" when sewing strips together, sew each new strip onto
the previous strip in the opposite direction than the previous line of
stitching. Sewing 22 inch strips rather than 44 inch strips also helps. Press
with a dry iron.

Hope that this helps your project go smoother. It really sounds lovely and
your mother will be so pleased - Francyne
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:32:41 -0700
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine Recommendations

I bought a 1090 earlier this year -- it's my first high-tech
machine, and I love it!  Sews like a dream, and the knee-lift feature
is a must!  Several other people that I know have owned them for
a while and love them as well.

One thing that I believe really makes a difference in the enjoyment
of any sewing machine is a proper sewing table -- one where the
machine "bed" with the feed-dogs is flat with your sewing 
surface.  Bear this in mind when you're shopping, and try to
set aside a little extra money to get a good cabinet or work
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:55:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Damage to sewing machines

I heard, just about ever since I have sewn on a machine, that when 
transporting a sewing machine, you should lower the needle as far as it 
goes and also lower the presser foot.  Has anyone ever heard this, and 
would it prevent damage should the machine fall over in the car?  I can 
see how it might protect the shaft that holds the needle.  Dropping our 
modern machines might be devastating, of course, to electronic parts.
Subject: Bernina Table
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 17:08:10 PDT

Owen, I too would like info on this and would appreciate your sharing any
info you get with me.  Thanks and good luck.  
Jean P
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Broke down and bought the 830

     It's a great deal for a 830 with all these extra.  The walking
foot alone cost $72 for me.   Enjoy your 830.....................

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:56:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/10/95

use a cone holder  set to the back of your machine and thread the thread
through the little guide on your handle then continue to thread the machine
normally. This allows the thread to come off the spool more smoothley not
"jerking" occasionally that causes these hang ups. This works beautifully!!! 
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:31:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Re" Little iron &pad

What size do you cut the it put over a board or just used as a
pad the way it's put together?  Thanks much.
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 19:59:39 EDT
Subject: Repair Problems

I'm not sure this message got thru the first time--so, here it is 

My sense of humor has left me!

I STILL do not have my 1630 back from repair.  I haven't seen it 
since August 25.  To review:  I took it to the dealer on August 25.  
It was sent to Bernina to repair a circuit board and returned to the 
dealer.  It worked for 20 minutes only at the dealers and was sent 
back to Bernina a second time.  Bernina repaired the circuit board 
again and returned it to the dealer.  The dealer heard a klunking 
sound.  They asked Bernina to send them a new circuit board.  On 
Tuesday, September 26 the dealer sent the bad circuit board back and 
was told Bernina would send them a new one WHEN they received the bad 
one.  On Friday, October 6 the dealer still did not have the new 

I really find this totally unacceptable.  Does anyone have the name 
and address of the person at Bernina to whom I should address a 
letter?  I would appreciate it.  I feel that somehow we need to be 
sure that Bernina knows our concerns.  I don't recall ever having 
such poor service on any other product I've purchased, and when you 
think of how much these machines cost.  I'm totally disgusted.

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:32:01 -0400

I work across the street in GCSD- Harris.  Didn't know there were any Bernina
nuts working at Harris on this bulletin board!!  Small world.....

Barbara Durham
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:53:30 -0400
Subject: Should I go for it?

Well tonight I attended the "Test Drive a Bernina" class at my local dealer,
and got a chance to use and ask questions about, all of the models.  The one
I'm most impressed by was the 1260, which made beautiful buttonholes and
which seemed very easy to work with generally.  I found the lcd screens on
the 1530 and 1630 to be hard to see and confusing to use.  They might prove
easy after practice, but I think the learning process would be long and
frustrating, and I really want a machine that is easy and fun to use.

The dealer is offering the 1260 for $2399 on sale (which apparently is the
Christmas sale price that she is making available early) and will throw in a
walking foot if I order within 10 days.  While that may not be the lowest
price around, it seems fair to me.  However, the price of the 1530 is only
$200 more, or $2599.  While I really want the 1260, I kind of feel like it
might be silly not to go for the higher model machine when the price
difference is so, relatively, small.  

Any thoughts?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:36:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine Recommendations

Tell your wife to by a Bernina ... she won't be sorry.  The best Bernina
dealer (25 years in business) in the San Francisco Bay Area is:  Mr. B Sewing
Center, 5525 Geary Blvd., San Francisco, CA 94121, (415) 221-7860.  This
store stands behind their machines and offers classes. 
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 01:32:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Shipping my Bernie home

I have shipped my Bernina to Florida and Back home to Nebraska. I took it on
the airplane with me in the original box. Everything turned out fine.  It is
HEAVY, so I don't think the guys in the back can throw it to far  :)   Give
it a try!

Mary Beth
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 00:55:00 UTC
Subject: Sewing Studio

 I fully realize how lucky I am. I am so thankful and try never to take it
for granted. :) If you ever want to get out of Dallas for a few days, it's a
short hop to Santa Fe. C'mon on over! :)
Back on topic... one of the agents where I work found out that I sew and
wants me to make him a shirt for the AID and Comfort fund raiser for AIDS
causes. The theme this year is "Salsa" and he wants one of those shirts that
I would call a "Ricky Ricardo" shirt. Full bodice, full sleeves and ruffles
all down the sleeves. He went out and bought the wildest fabrics you can
imagine. The body is very large fruit printed on a white ground, and the
ruffles are a wild plaid with the same colors as the fruit print. Should be
a fun project. I've already volunteered to make an Appliquilt for the
auction. I've never made one before so this is going to be nerve wracking.
But I thought it would be a perfect (and hopefully fairly easy) way to
depict the area, the season (it's in December), and the cause. I need to get
cracking on all this stuff.
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 03:10:00 UTC
Subject: skipped stitches

my dealer told me that you can also try using a hoop, and he recommended the
#9 foot, although, I do prefer the 24.  He says, its likely that your fab is
not tight enough and is moving around, and that is causing the skipped
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 03:10:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Steam-a-seam, etc.

Thanks sooooo much,  I wonder if you could use that to make appliques for
blouses and jumpers to make it hold for say a day and be able to wear the
garment.  What do you think?  Would it work.
I will be looking for some of this, it does sound like wonderful stuff.
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:16:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/10/95

  Could I please ask for a quick reality check here?  What do you folks
with 1080s think of $1,099 for a new 1080?  Good, bad, indifferent price?
Please help - I've got *3* days to make up my mind.  Thank you thank you
thank you!

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:39:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/10/95

To Chris:
I have the 1630 and the Deco.Although it is a lot of money to invest, I love
the pair.
The embroidery features on the 1630 are compleatly different than the DECO.
They look more like hand embroidery and I use them for completely different
types of projects.  The stitch designer is also a great feature on the 1630.
I most certianly wouldn't give up either.  Some say the regular stitch isn't
as nice on the 1630...........the singles needle plat sure takes care of that
Good luck!
Pris F
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:29:35 -0400
Subject: End of Bobbin Noise

Just wanted to finish my tale -- got my 1260 back from Gloversville Sewing
Center (Gloversville, NY) with new hook, shuttle and gate (?? the door that
hold the hook in...) and new gears.

Well, I'm here to tell you it sounds better than new! AND the stitches are
better than new too! Unbelievable.  I told a friend this (the one who had
borrowed my machine for a few days) and she couldn't believe the stitches are
better -- thought they were pretty good when she had it in August.

Big hugs and thank yous go to a wonderful, attentive and caring dealer  for
making my machine all that it was meant to be.

Mary Beth
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 09:51:36 EDT
Subject: Re: BErnina DECO 500 or Viking +1?

In re:  DECCO or Viking +1      Have you seen/tried the Janome 9000.  I
confess to having bought one &so far, I love it.

Ruth B
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 10:46 EDT
Subject: poem of joy

poem of joy

Harriet Hargrave is coming to town
In my office, I dance up and down,
'cause she's teaching TWO days,
machine quilting and applique,
and lecturing on the evening between.

Since I haven't posted before, only lurked, I should introduce myself...

I'm 36, have 2 little girls and work full time on support and tools for
technical documentation.  I've been quilting for about 2 years now, ever
since my DH bought me a 1031.  I do mostly piecing simple tops, and machine
stitch in the ditch.  I did some clothes sewing when I was a teenager,
and intend to pick that skill back up sometime "soon" (those little girls
keep fondling the expensive bolts and saying "Mommy, this would make a
pretty dress, I NEED it.").

On a SANE schedule, I get in about 2 hours of sewing in a week.  I have a
small wall hanging that I keep around for practicing hand quilting, but with
the amount of time and patience I have, machine quilting is a lot more
attractive, I just have to learn how.  My DH and I argue about what patterns,
colors, and fabrics to use, and he frequently comes home from business trips
with More Fabric.  (He does most of my pressing, and helps with rotary cutting,
too.)  I'm currently twisting arms to make sure that his business trip ends
in time for me to go to Harriet's class.

Lynda F
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: reply: shipping bernina home

Hi... I had very good experience with UPS, I shipped all my belonging
from UPS such as TV, sewing machines and many others from NY to CA.
They are fast, reasonal price and good service.  They could come and
pickup if you have many boxes and give you tracking numbers.  You can
insurance more if you need to..............
      Call them all and ask questions about what's their limit
on weight, size and contents.

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:27:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Broke down and bought the 830

I wish I could buy an 830 because they are lighter and easier to take to
seminars, etc.
Sharon 8-)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:54:06 -0700
Subject: fitting pants

Someone asked about the bonfit system for fitting pants.  I don't have any
experience with it but I do have a new experience in fitting to share with
you.  Last week I tried the Fitting Finesse book system to fit pants that
Nancy Zeiman has out.  I have never made a pair of pants of any kind that I
felt looked good or fit.  I had just given up.  However I wear a lot of
pants so I really wanted to get a good pattern.  I got the Fitting Finesse
book and had a sewing friend over to do the measuring.  We each made a new
pants pattern.  At first it took us a while because it was unfamiliar ( now
I think it would take me about 1/2 hour to fix any new pattern)  but we
spent the time.  I made the pants out of a washable wool and I am
astonished.  I have never had a pair of pants that fits this good, no matter
who made them or how much I paid for them.  I am so excited.  Now I can use
all those peices of fabric in my stash that I bought with pants in mind.

I can't wait to get time for using the methods on a jacket, vest and blouse
pattern. Oh, well, I have to do Pocahontas and Meeko for halloween first.
I'll let you know how the other projects go.

I have learned a lot from reading this list.  Thanks to everyone for their
input and questions.

Subject: Re: BErnina DECO 500 or Viking +1?

>Check out the POEM embroidery machine before you buy the Viking 1+ or DECO.
What company makes the POEM embroidery machine?  Is it a lot cheaper than
the DECO?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:48:14 -0400
Subject: 830 or 930?

Since I have signed up for severeal classes, I find that it is getting very
tireing to be constantly be taking my 1630 in and out of the cabinet. Not to
mention that it is very heavy! Consequently, I am thinking of getting a
second machine for classes and when I am in St. Louis visiting my two girls
and their families. 

My dealer has two machines, one is an 830 for 425.00 the other is a 930 for
899.00. She explained the difference in the price and I understand. I know
that the 830 doesn't have needle down and quite a few features that the 930
does have. 

My question is this.....if after useing the 1630, (which I love), would it
drive me crazy to have a machine that didn't have needle down plus many other
features or should I pay the higher price and get the 930? I am going to see
the 830 tomorrow, (Friday) but it will be awhile before I can see the 930. I
have to pay for this myself, my DH said, you want it you pay for it! So it
has to go on lay a way till it is paid for. That means that also I would have
to wait longer to use the 930 instead of the 830. I could put it on my credut
card but this was said like a challange! (at least I took it that way)! 
Sorry this took so long, would appreciate any help! 
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:23:56 -0400
Subject: Free motion problems


I have had the same problem with the monofilament thread both in free motion
and in quilting with the walking foot.  It seems that the thread is sliding
on the spool and binding and then it jerks and I get a knot on the bottom of
the nylon thread.  I have found that if I go at a moderatly slow and steady
speed, it happens less.  Threading it through the extra thread guide that is
on the back of the handle on the top of the machine seems to cut down on the
number of times it happens.  Hope this helps.
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:31:24 -0400
Subject: Heavy threads

I have used both Mettler Cordonnet topstitching and other similar weights of
thread in the needle with good results.  I have taken and taught a class on
Sashiko by Machine where we used those threads.  I use either any where from
a 90 to a 110 topstitching needle, depending on which thread I am using.  I
am usually working on denim or other fairly heavy fabric with a stablizer
under it.  Have used both straight stitch and some of the simpler decorative
stitches.  The stitch length has to be longer than normal.  Instead of
backstitching, pull the threads to the back and tie them off.  Always try
your stitch and thread combo on a scrap of your fabric before you start your
project as you may have to adjust tensions or other settings to get it too
look like you want it to.  I just use regular sewing thread in the bobbin.
 Use a white thread on top and a navy or black on bottom and let the bobbin
thread peak through on the top just a little for a more handsewn look.  It's
lots of fun.  Hope this helps

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:35:58 -0400
Subject: Bobbins for Deco

The deco is a lot of fun but according to my dealer, it does not use the
bobbins for the 1630.  It uses the same bobbins as the Babylock and Brother,
a japanese one.  One advantage is that they are much less expensive than the
1630 ones.  The Deco is made by the same company as the Babylock and the
Brother in Japan.  Sorry to disillusion everyone, but not every Bernina is
made in Switzerland.  They still do have very high standards for these
machines tho.  I have the Babylock Esante (sewing and embroidery combo) along
with my 1630 and 2000DE serger.  Still love to do most of my sewing on the
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:41:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/10/95

Barbara, Good for you.  You wanted it, you deserved it. so you got it.  End
of story!  
I love my 830.  I plan to keep it for a very very very very long time, for my

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:44:52 -0400
Subject: Glad to be Back

Hi everyone--I am back from my trek to Canada to look at the fall leaves with
my Mom.  We had a great time.  Went on a tour bus with 53 other people.
 Everyone was very nice and we got along well together but sure was glad to
get home.  It has taken me about a week to get through all of the mail I had
stacked up, both on the computer and on the dining room table.  Have barely
had time to say hello to my Bernina and hug it.  I sure did miss sewing while
I was gone.  On Monday, I went to the first 1630 club at my local dealers.
 It was a hands-on, sit and sew time.  She went into much more detail about
using the stitch designer on the machine and how to put together your designs
and ones already in the machine.  It sure did answer a lot of my questions
about it and has me wanting to spend a lot of time playing with it.  But, I
just don't have the time right now.  I am in the final, last minute details
of putting a quilting retreat on.  In just 4 weeks, I have about 150 people
and 5 teachers coming to a center in the mountains for 2 1/2 days of quilting
fun.  It's a lot of fun, but a lot of work too when you are the one in
charge.  Am really looking forward to it, but at the same time, will be glad
when it is over  for this year.  Got to start planning next year.  
    Really did enjoy catching up on all of the notes sent back and forth
while I was gone.  It made me feel like I had really come home.  Looking
forward to getting back into the flow of notes again.  

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:56:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Shipping my Bernie home

Thank goodness you have the original box and packing because it is the best
protection for your machine. Remove the presser foot, lower the presser bar,
and put the needle down . Place the little rubber things back onto your spool
holders and push them down so that they are protected. Put your name and all
pertinent information inside the box and on the machine itself. Tape the box
well. I have never had any trouble shipping by UPS within the US but I don't
know about overseas. You may need an adjustment by an authorized mechanic
once it reaches it's destination but perhaps it is due for a clean, oil, and
adjust anyway.

Good luck. Hope you don't have to be parted for very long. I know how
stressful that can be.     Francyne
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:56:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Locating a Bernina Dealer

To find the dealer nearest you, call Bernina of America at 1-800-877-0477.
Subject: Looking for a pattern
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 17:03:05 PDT

Hi All;

In 1987 AQS printed a book called "Arkansas Quilts".  Last year sometime they
were offereing some complimentary copies of this book and I requested one.

On page 129 is a photo of a quilt called "Golden Wedding Ring Star" and it is 
a beautiful, traditional, scrappy, double wedding ring on a light yellow 
background and in the centers instead of quilting there is a five point star 
in the center of another five point star.  The stars are scrappy too.  The 
entire quilt is quilted 1/4" from all the seams.  This pattern originated in 
the Kansas City Star newspaper as so many of these traditional patterns did.
This quilt was made in 1935 and is 72" x 82" by a Mrs. D.O. Graves from 
Jonesboro, Arkansas.

I would like to know if anyone has this pattern?  Please email me directly and
I will trade what ever you would like in return.

Thank you.  :0}
Jean P
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 21:15:38 EDT
Subject: Re:  Should I go for it?

I went into my dealer thinking along the lines of a 1090.  I got an
extremely good deal on a 1530, and have never regretted it.  I loved my
machine, and found the trackball system surprisingly easy to adapt to.
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:44:03 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Should I go for it?

I'd say go back and try the 1530 again for a variety of sewing.  If you 
don't like the interface, you should find out before you buy, not 
after.   After all this is a big purchase, you should get what you want.  
I have a 1530 and really like it but I'm a computer person so the screen 
seems fine to me.  I know some people just never get used to it so it 
really is a personal thing.  

Hope this helps,

Liz C
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 02:23:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 10/11/95

    I got a bad 1630...made the dealer take it back and went elsewhere.
Hopefully, my new one is good.  Circuit boards come in two varieties, those
that work and those that don't.  There isn't an in between...if you have a
bad one, you have a bad one.  Depending on how long you've owned yours, you
may just demand a WHOLE NEW MACHINE.  Sometimes, it's the interaction of the
card with the other parts (particularly in the connection between the board
and the rest).
    Also...why don't you ask them if you can take a demo home in the
meantime???  It's been well over a month...they owe you that much (it's not
the same as yours...but still).
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 20:49:54 PDT
Subject: POEM info please...

Hello All:

My name is Jill, and I am using my DH's account, and it is ok to
respond to this account, because he will forward it to me.

I would like the phone number of POEM so that I could find out where in 
California they sell them so I can demo one.  I'm the person wanting to
trade down my 1630 for a 1530 and get a Deco, but actually I'm looking
at all machines right now because my DH suggested I do this.  He said
since I sold my 1530 and bought the 1630 I haven't been very happy.  He
wants me to check out what else is out there.  He is a sweetie, and
wants me to have an embroidery machine too.

I personally do not think Vikings hold a candle to Nina's but I am going
to check them out, all of them, Pfaff's included!  This POEM sounds neat!
No one in a 50 mile radius has heard of it.  Maybe in San Francisco some
where?  I've owned Bernina's for 20 years but aI'm very disappointed with my
1630 at this time.  The dealer I bought it from told me he never sells the
1530, only 1630's, and he sells tons of them!  He has only one 1530 in 
stock but has many 1630's in stock, because nobody wants the 1530's.  He
sells lots of 1090's and 1260's too.  I loved my 1530!  I wonder if 
Bernina is going to discontinue the 1530 like my dealer hinted at?  Maybe
he just doesn't want to trade.  I hope I do not lose too much $$ in this
experience, but I have the software and all the 1630 feet too.  We will see.

Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 04:11:00 UTC
Subject: Should I go for it?

 While I certainly wouldn't make your decision for you, here are a couple of
thoughts about the 1530. I bought one earlier this year and sat and looked
at it for two weeks, totally intimidated. Then I found an old box full of
stuff I'd cut out from sale fabrics several years ago. I figured I didn't
have anything to lose, so I dug out an unstructured jacket and went to town.
Turns out the machine was really easy to use.
I did, however, take the book and start on page 1 and work my way through
most of it while sitting at the machine. Made the adjustment a lot easier.
If you're used to using a computer with a mouse, you'll have no problem
adjusting to the track ball and screen on the 1530. I really kind of like it
I'm also thinking of takiing that big stitch chart out of the manual and
having it laminated to put on the wall near the machine. Or maybe having it
copied and laminated, and then I won't have to tear it out of the book.
Date: 13 Oct 95 01:09:07 EDT
Subject: Should I go for it?

Hi Pam

I bought a 1230 and have *never* regretted not having gone for the 1530 or 1630.
On the 1230 I can choose a stitch by pressing a button and start sewing; I do
not have to scroll through one or more menu's to get to the stitch I want.
Also, the led screen would have given me a crick in the neck very quickly; I
found it small and difficult for my mature eyes to read.  Also, when I do
invisible machine applique on the 1230 I can touch the "restart stitch" button
to get an extra stitch to reinforce a corner -- a matter of seconds.  I do not
think the other machines can do that.  For me, the other machines would not be
as easy and fun to use as my 1230.

If you can wait to buy, you might want to check and see if any sewing
expositions or guild shows are scheduled in your area; often dealers can sell at
more highly discounted prices at such shows.  The price on the 1260 seems a
little steep to me.    
The best local source of information I have found on Bernina's is my quilt
guild.  The guild itself won't give out information on prices, dealers, etc. but
if you talk to some of the long-term guild members, they have heard everything
there is to hear about Bernina's from their friends.  It might be worth a few
phone calls.  

Good luck.

Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:04:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Repair Problem

Got a reply from by computer pal in UK  She had luck contacting Bernina
company, writing to the President:

Mr. H. Ueltschi
Fritz Gegauf AG
CHG-8266 Steckborn

Fax number:  The Swiss country code is 0041 (from UK) followed by 54 61 28 58.

Good luck, I hope you have your baby back home soon.


Peggy Q
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:20:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Should I go for it?

RE whether to spend an extra $200 for a 1530:  my advice to sewing 
machine buyers is to buy the absolute best machine you can afford.  My 
friend bought a machine several years ago, and chose a low end kenmore 
because "I'll never need all that fancy stuff" and two years later she 
gave it to her sister and bought a Pfaff.  She almost bought a low end 
Pfaff untill I reminded her of how fast she out grew her kenmore.

Ultimately, though, only you can decide if the extra bells and whistles 
are worth $200.  I love my 1530, but how many kinds of buttonholes does a 
woman who primarily quilts need?

Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:38:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Should I trade in my 1630..?

Hey Chris - This is Linda.  Affirmative to your question.  I
had been a Singer devotee until last year when my sister-in-law took me to EF
for a Bernina serger.  After 30 years of Singers, I even taught classes for
them, I have made the big switch.  I thought I would miss the internal bobbin
and auto buttonhole, but I don't, as these features on my 1090 are just as
convenient!  And the quality of the stitch is much better.  I really
appreciate the knee lift, which didn't impress me at all until I started
using it. As for the Deco, I am frustrated that I can't find the time to do
all the projects I have in mind!  Can't imagine life without a Bernina any
more.  I am one happy camper!  I am also very pleased with Eunice Farmer.  I
did shop the other dealer in St. Louis, but found the folks at EF the most
professional and informative. 
Add my name to list of those who are green over the studio.  I use my family
room which is convenient for me but not for my family!
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 07:50 CST
Subject: Re: Bernina Table

     I took a couple of classes from Harriet Hargrave last week 
     at a Quilting Workshop and she talked about these tables.  
     Yes, they are still available.  I have the address of her 
     store in Colorado and the name and price of the tables.  
     Unfortunately, I do not have it with me at the time.  If 
     anyone is interested you can e-mail me.
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:06:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/10/95

>  Could I please ask for a quick reality check here?  What do you folks
>with 1080s think of $1,099 for a new 1080?  Good, bad, indifferent price?
>Please help - I've got *3* days to make up my mind.  Thank you thank you
>thank you!


I have the 1080 which I love and which is my first Bernina!  I paid
$999. for it, I did trade in my old machine (Bernette) and he gave
me $250. for it.  All shops make a deal, the price marked on machine
was $1500 but minus my trade in and then like cars they knock some off
but I still feel it was a good deal, and like I said I love my
Bernnina in fact I thought I would never own one at my age, my
mom always says "I had to wait until I was 50 to get my Bernina!"
We are Bernina lovers in my family both my sisters have one plus
my mom and me.  They are certainly worth the investment!

Happy sewing!!   Hope it works out for you!  Let us know!

Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 08:37 CST
Subject: Re: Free Motion Problems

     It also helps to put a "thread sock" on the spool of nylon 
     thread.  You can buy these at quilting stores, or you can 
     get tubular gauze at a drug store and cut off a couple of 
     inches.  This help keeps the thread from coming off too fast 
     or unevenly.
Subject: Re: 830 or 930?

It makes me just sick to hear that the dealer wants $899 for a 930.  When
I purchased my 1230  five years ago I sold my 930 privately for $600 with all
the extra attachments one of which was an expensive walking foot.  I had
tried to get $700 for it but no one wanted to that much in the town in which I
live.  I wish now I had kept it.
Subject: Walking Foot Problems
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 07:24:00 PDT

Earlier this month I sent out a distress message about using my  Walking 
Foot on a quilt.  Thanks for all your advise.  I wasn't ready to mutilate my 
$80  walking foot,so my engineer husband decided to "look" at it.

He took it COMPLETELY apart (i guess making null and void  any warranties on 
it), while I stood there holding my breath.  Well, what he found was that 
the part that makes it walk, a VERY VERY small spring, wasn't tight enough. 
 He adjusted the teeny weeny screw that held it in place and HE FIXED IT!! 
 Now it snaps back with more force when it walks.  I've tried it on two 
quilts and not once did the foot get stuck.    I'm not recommending that you 
take your walking foot apart, but if you get brave enough, and have some 
very tiny tools and a magnifying glass, you might try this method of fixing 
it before you shave off the bottom.
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:18:24 -0400
Subject: shipping your Bernie

We are dealers in Seattle.  Lots of our customers tote their machines around
to seminars across the country, and one thing seems clear:  Do not check it
on the airplane.  One note:  when tipped on its side, a Bernina will fit
under the airplane seat in front of you - even with its hard case on!  Of
course the prospect of hauling it through airports sounds gruelling, but the
old metal fold-up luggage carts are often sighted on concourses, complete
with Berninas on them and ladies dragging them must be writing
this from HK?  My farthest EMail so far.
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:18:31 -0400
Subject: Finding a Local Dealer

To find a local Bernina dealer, call 800-350-1630
This number connects you with an answering service which has lists of current
dealers.  Hopefully this will help you.
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:34:04 -0400
Subject: Re: fitting pants

I got the bonfit pattern for pants, and also was quite impressed with the
fit.  It took time to get the right measurements, but sure was worth it to
get a good fit.  I have been tempted to get the book by Nancy, and probably
will invest.
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:51:38 -0500
Subject: applique

I fused some fabric cutouts onto a sweat shirt using Heat N Bond.  Is it
necessary to also sew an applique stitch around the edges or will the
bonding material hold after washing?  The directions tell you it is not
necessary to sew the edges but just wondering if it really works.

thanks, Sarita
1530 owner who gets first lesson next week
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:32:46 EST
Subject: 006d?

One of the local dealers here in S. Florida is having a three day sale 
beginning 10/20/95.  All Bernina accessories are 20% off. (Will buy feet 
and bobbins as have been suggested) However a "sort of" bottom line serger 
is available for $599. --the 006D. Lists at $850 or so.  It does have 
differential and it  Is a 3/4 thread machine.  I have no grand children nor 
do I wear many cotton knits, but I do much sewing on other fabrics and 
quilt.  Would this be a good purchase until I really know how much sewing I 
would do with it?  I have a 1630 (which I love) or would the foot (no.?) 
that supposedly serges and cuts the fabric for the 1630 be a better buy?
Another dealer in the area(There are at least 4 within 1 1/2 hrs)) has a 
15% off all machine until 10/31. Buying this Bernette 006d from her would 
cost more $$. But she does have All machine on sale. Therefore I could go 
one step up to whatever is the next choice. (Finances say no more than 
$1000)  Help.  You have all been so helpful.

I dont write much. but find all the info invaluable.Paula
BTW the 3 day sale dealer is offering no interest charges until March.  Is 
this sale available all over the US? and is this no interest attraction 
also all over the US?
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:15:03 -0400
Subject: Quilting Table

I had to go to see my Bernina dealor today and when I walked in the first
thing I saw was the quilting table that has been discussed on this board. I
was told it sells for 350.00. It has a place for the sewing machine, a drop
leaf in the back and it looks like a cabinet on the left hand side. This one
is off white with plenty of room for the largest quilt.

I told Jean that I thought this was the table that people were looking for
and couldn't find. Also if she would be willing to ship. She has agreed but
also said that you should be able to get the same table from your Bernina

If you want further info e-mail me and I will give you her name, address and
phone number.    Phyllis
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:28:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Pennsylvania fabric stores + Sewing in the 90's

I just bought myself a Bernina 1080 and would like to sew clothes
again (after a 20 year hiatus).  I have 2 problems/questions.  First, how would
I learn about new sewing and altering techniques?  As a teenager I took a
class with Singer and another with Stretch &Sew.  Also, I live in State
College, Pennsylvania, and we're at least 3 hours away from big cities.  I'd
be interested in tips on fabric stores in central Pennsylvania or the
Philadelphia, Washington or Pittsburgh areas.

Thanks in advance,

Subject: RE: Free Motioin Quilting Problem
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 15:21:00 DST

Have you tried putting your thread through the little arm on the bobbin? 
 That might work.

Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 21:14:00 UTC
Subject: fitting pants

Thanks for the info on fitting finesse.  I too have given up on pants and
 other items for myself.  I have few things store bought or not because I'm
 tough to fit.  But what I do get is always expensive and then either my
 husband ruins it trying to help with the laundry or it falls apart cuz it
 wasn't made right to begin with.  So I just don't buy.  But I'm gonna
 get this book cuz you make it sound so good.  Maybe I'll have a new wardrobe
Date: 13 Oct 95 19:33:27 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/10/95

Hi Elaine,

I paid $1100.00 for my 1080 about 2-3 months ago, the other prices I got were in
the 1275.00 range. $1099.00 sounds good to me!

Good luck!
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 23:29:00 UTC
Subject: Free Motion Problems

I haven't tried sewing with the monofilament yet, but I'm wondering if
putting one of those little mesh sleeves on the spool would help with the
sliding and binding. It works with the metallics.
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 22:17:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/10/95

Elaine...I purchased my 1080 last November for $949.  My dealer was selling
it for $999, but someone had taken it to demo at a quilt shop. I told my
dealer it was now used &would he take $50 off!  I had to purchase the slide
on sewing table separately which was around $60 (can't remember exactly
offhand).  I love this machine.  I also have an 801 Sport which is great for
carting to classes.
Subject: Re: 830 or 930?
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 14:03:37 PDT


I don't think you will find the other two machines all that much lighter
in weight.  My 930 was not much lighter than my 1530.

Besides if you take specialty classes you would want the features that
the newer machine has more likely than not.

If you want it just for piecing in classes why not get a Featherweight?
They are great for classes.
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 21:41:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/5/95

I have had a europress for about a year--i use it almost exclusively.  it was
advertised in sew news and i got my bernina dealer to carry them.  the steam
is fabulous.  i can iron on the right side of ultrasuede facile--now that  is
nothing short of miraculous.  it also does a great job on the right side of
 velvet.  they ha ve just come out with a sleeve press for use with tailoring
jackets,pressing shirts without that sleeve crease.  i still have my bernina
iron, but as you c an tell,i am really pleased with this addition to my
sewing room
Date: 13 Oct 95 23:42:04 EDT

    I had a very similiar problem, but  my dealer didn't have the hassle that
BOA is giving your dealer.  Does your dealer have a 1630 factory trained repair
person?  The first time the repair person swapped one board within a few days,
the second time two boards were expressed shipped to my shop within 48
hours.They did not request the old boards first.   If the dealer is still
waiting, can he trace the shipment?
Ask for a loaner again!  
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 00:25:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/10/95

This is the first day I have received this.  Please tell me the question this
is in answer to.  Also what is the Bernina Digest?  How do you get it.
 Thanks for your help.  Sandy S
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 00:25:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: End of Bobbin Noise

> Just wanted to finish my tale -- got my 1260 back from Gloversville Sewing
> Center (Gloversville, NY) with new hook, shuttle and gate (?? the door
> hold the hook in...) and new gears.
> Well, I'm here to tell you it sounds better than new! AND the stitches are
> better than new too! Unbelievable.  I told a friend this (the one who had

Mary Beth: Great news! I have the same problem with my 1260 (purchased in
APril) and have been waiting to hear what happened with yours. I have to
call and make an is a 4 hour drive for me to get to my
dealer so I guess I will go visit my sister (another 2 hours further) for a
weekend! I'm in the midst of Halloween costumes (UGH) so can't do it til
after Halloween. I am also concerned about a high pitched hum it makes. It
bothers me so much I can only use it for a half hour or so before it really
gets to me. DH can't hear it, so it just may be me. I also have difficulty
with certain security systems in jewelry stores...a high pitched hum that
makes me go bonkers. So it might just be my ears are too sensitive...I hope
not, though cause I love the machine and hate to think I couldn't sew very
much on it!
Thanks for the update!
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 09:53:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Bobbins for DECO's

I use lingerie thread in the bobbin on the Deco, and it has been working
great.  It has just enough elasticity to keep the top threads neat, and
eliminates many tension adjustments.  Try it, you'll like it!  
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:10:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Strip Piecing

The best book on paper piecing by far is by Carol Doak - she gives over 
60 patterns which can be traced or copied.  I believe she now has 2 books 
out - Run!  Buy!  they are like potato chips - once you have one, you 
want another!

Peggy K
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:32:49 -0400
Subject: 830 or 930?


 I recently bought an 830 for my daughter to learn on. It is a newer model
with an electronic foot control, and I like that. No needle down; however I
find that by tapping the foot control I can often get the needle to stop
pretty much where I want -- no guarantees though!

I take it to free-motion embroidery classes and its great for that. Still
feels heavy to me! (all these machines are heavy; luggage carrier here I

My friend has the 930, and the only difference in features that I'm aware of,
is the tri-motion stitches and needle up/down. Only you can say how important
these are. From my point of view, I would have preferred the 930, but cost
was a major factor. And now that we have the 830 I can see (and experience)
what a fine machine it is. My daughter, who is the primary user, does not
need those other features. And if I am working on a project where they would
be important, I just set up my main machine, which has all those extras.
(Viking #1)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 15:22:11 -0400
Subject: Re: Go for it


Thanks for the feedback.  I am in Miami, and have read your posts in the past
about the high prices for Berninas in Tallahassee.  Here in Miami, too, it
seems that unless there is a sale going on, which is relatively rare, the
dealers ask for full list price, which on the 1530 is $3399 and on the 1260
$3199.  Following the "test drive" class I attended at the local dealer, The
Quilt Scene, on Wednesday, the owner of the shop announced that she was
making her Christmas sale prices available early, which are $800 off the list
price of machines over $3000 and $500 off the list prices of machines
$2000-$2999. That makes the 1530 $2599 and the 1260 $2399.   I have received
posts of people getting much lower prices than these elsewhere, but that
doesn't help me.  Just for comparison, I got a quote from a mailorder place
that advertised in Vogue Patterns, and they quoted me $2499 for the 1530
(which would be without sales tax but with shipping), so I feel like my
dealer's prices, while not rock-bottom, are fair.  With the convenient
location and friendly staff of my nearby Bernina dealer, I have basically
made up my mind to buy there.  I also realize that the walking foot thrown in
is a good benefit, as the price is $85, and I would want to buy that anyway.
 I'm not a quilter, at least not yet, but I understand the walking foot is
great for regular sewing on certain types of fabric as well.

Now my only problem is that, while the $2399 for the 1260 is an okay price,
it is still a lot of money.  For that reason, I'm considering buying the
1090s, which is on sale for $1699.  I have to give my dealer credit for not
trying to push customers into the high end machines. She said, basically,
that any doubts should be resolved in favor of buying a less expensive
machine, because they have a 6-month trade up policy which, tied to their 3
annual sales (Xmas, Mother's Day, and Labor Day), mean that if you buy a
machine on sale, you'll be able to take advantage of the next sale for your
trade up.  For that reason I think I might ease into the world of Berninas by
starting with the 1090.  I really do feel that I ultimately want the 1260,
but the 1090 will no doubt be heaven compared to my old machine.  By the way,
I have to wait to Monday to find out how much they will give me on my
trade-in, so I can't commit yet anyway.

It really does strike me that there is a remarkable lack of price competition
by Bernina dealers, either with each other or with other brands.  Out of
curiosity, I went a couple of weeks ago to the one other Bernina dealer in
Dade County, and they too were offering only list price, and in fact actively
discouraged me from buying a Bernina and tried to sell me a New Home!  My
local Singer/Babylock dealer also now sells New Home, and offers great prices
on them all the time.  I guess Bernina must view it's customer base as being
non-price driven, so that they do not have to compete on price with other
brands.  Just as a person who wants and can afford a Mercedes-Benz is not
likely to be dissuaded from buying a new M-B simply because he could get a
bargain on a new Geo.

At any rate, I am looking forward to ordering a new Bernina of some kind
within the next week, and I'll be sure to post to the BFC list about what I

Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 16:13:28 -0400
Subject: Re: End of Bobbin Noise

Mary Beth,

I was surprised to see another satisfied customer of the Gloversville Sewing
Center in this listing.  They really are great people and they know their

Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 17:39:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 1550 vs 1630 and Decco 500

I would please like to know the difference in these machines.  Is it that 
one can hook up to the computer and the other can't.

Can I get, say, holloween or Christmas designs for either of these machines?

AND--- I looked at some of the designs made by the Decco 500 - - - I am 
in deep trouble now!  I just purchased a new Serger, and here I sit 
trying to decide between Pfaff and Bernina fancy machines, and I just 
have to have the Decco 500.  

Can any of you tell me why you chose the Bernina over the Pfaff?

Peggy K
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 17:29:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Applique

Don't believe it!  For good results, you will need to either sew down, or 
paint down the edges - you don't need a tight satin stitch - try some 
other stitch that looks nice......but you do need to hold the edges.

Peggy K
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 19:42:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Shipping my Bernie home

About 4 years ago I shipped my 1230 from the Atlanta area to the San Diego
area and back a week later.  I had the original shipping carton.  It arrived
in CA in good shape.  The arrival back in GA was another situation.  I sent
it UPS.  I was not home when they delivered it.  I live in a multi-level
house on a hillside, it is 21 steps to my front door.  I'm not sure if they
dropped it or had shipped it with something very heavy sitting on top of it.
 The bottom line is that they had bent the heavy base plate that the machine
sits on one inch off center.  It would not sit level and was a real pain to
sew on.  They had also cracked the back cover of the machine over the motor.
 Cost $300 to repair.  They balked at paying since I took it to the dealer to
be checked before I called UPS to file the claim.  They said I should have
called them when I noticed the damage to the box and before I had unpacked
it.  They wound up paying for it.  So, be sure you insure it for the FULL
retail replacement value.  The next time it goes any where, I am taking it
with me personaly.

Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 19:47:30 -0400
Subject: fusible applique


If you have used the "Ultra" Heat-n-bond, you won't need to stitch around it.
 It is so heavy that it is very difficult to stitch on.  Any other weight and
you will need to stitch around it.  Also, be sure that you have pre-washed
and dryed your sweat shirt without using any fabric softener in either the
washer or dryer.  Fabric softener keeps it from fusing correctly.  Had a lady
in class recently who had used a fabric softener sheet in the dryer and it
really didn't fuse.  We wound up pinning it in place and stitching around it.
 Oh well, she will follow the directions on the supply list next time.  

Date: Sat, 14 Oct 95 23:33:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 10/5/95

 \what is Europress and how much is it?  Is it one of those presses that
 you lower the lid and it presses?  I'd love something like that. donna
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 95 23:32:00 UTC
Subject: Walking Foot Problem

I guess it pays to have an engineer for a hubby.  I don't think my husband
 could do that job with a golf club.
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 17:28:15 -0700
Subject: steam-a-seam

Patches sez:

   >Thanks sooooo much,  I wonder if you could use that [Steam-a-seam] to    
   >make appliques for blouses and jumpers 

I noticed that the Hancock's catalog has this stuff, you can either buy 
a sheet (more or less 8.5" x 11" if I recall) and then I think a 
tape-sized roll (like, .5" x ???).  Has anyone else seen it in bigger 
quantities?  I do small applique, but at $2.79 a sheet or whatever it 
was, even *that* will add up.  And bigger sheets, other than just being 
more economical, would allow Patches to do bigger appliques for 
garments.  (Patches, if your question was about whether this stuff is 
washable &durable, sorry.)

Has anyone bought Steam-a-seam off a bolt in normal sizes (normal for 
fusibles, that is)?

Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 20:53:13 -0400
Subject: Re: monofilament thread problems

If you use a thread stand and put one of the little net things around the
cone, the monofilament behaves much, much better than just using it like
regular thread. It is slippery and needs to be contained so it can't unwind
all at once.

Mary M
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 95 21:58:23 PDT
Subject: Re: Go for it 

	I decided on the 1090 and I love it.  I went in to the dealer with 
every intention of buying a high end machine but bought a 1090 and a serger. 
 Now I am glad I did because I am looking at the Deco Machine. I could not 
afford all three had I bought a 1630.
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 22:33:33 -0400
Subject: POEM info please


I have the phone number and address at work of the Aisin Corp. who
manufactures the POEM machine.  This embroidery machine is distributed by
Passap dealers as POEM and by Viking dealers as the HUSKYGRAM.  I will E-mail
you on Tuesday with their address and phone number, they'll be able to tell
you who your nearest dealer is.

Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 22:41:56 -0400
Subject: Re: 006d?


I recently bought a used serger.  It's a Bernette 234.  I have a 1090 and
mostly machine quilt with it, but I have a 1 1/2 year old daughter that
I enjoy making clothes for and thought I just had to have a serger too.
I think I got a good deal on it for $250.  Since I have such a fine sewing
machine I thought a used serger would be good enough for me.  I have
really enjoyed it.

Angel R
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 02:40:00 UTC
Subject: 1530 vs 1630 and DECO 500

I chose B for 3 reasons.  Kneelift lever, stitch quality and buttonholes.
 Buttonholes are my pet peeve so I had the dealers demo that and the Bernie
 made the nicest looking buttonholes between the big four.  I didn't even
 look at Singer or Kenmore having already had both. donna
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 22:42:00 -0400
Subject: Free Motion Machine Quilting


I've been machine quilting like mad lately.  I'm  finishing up a king size
log cabin for Christmas, and used the monofilimate tread with my 1090
and have not had any problems with it.  Do you always hold onto the
upper thread when beginning.  I have found that I love the 1/2 speed
because I'm not comfortable going full speed and with it set on 1/2 speed
I can floor it and I have a consistent speed.

Angel R
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 19:59:34 -0700
Subject: hummmm

        Ok. I feel better.  My new (old) 830 has a high pitched sound, I
thought maybe I had missed an oil point. Otherwise, I love it.  Will ask the
dealer.  She did mention that I should be careful and have the "brushes"
checked, every 2 years.  (Whatever they are, think it is something
electrical and not really a brush).
                        Hugs,  Andrea
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 03:42:00 UTC
Subject: faux hand quilting stitch

Could someone give me the info on how you do the fake hand quilting stitch
for the 1530 again.  I would really appreciate it,

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