Bernina Fan Club Archives

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 94 22:14:33 -0500
Subject: Satin Stitch Question

I may as well be first with a question. I must confess that after admiring 
Bernina's for almost 20 years, I finally became a proud owner 4 weeks ago.  
Model # 1630. I was trying to do some satin stitch applique and found that the 
machine seemed to work best at a fairly fast speed.  Do other people find the 
satin stitch is best done fast?  Secondly, once in awhile the machine would stop and the stitches would back up.  Is that me and how do other people avoid it?  I was using a tear-away backing.
Thanks, 
Sue T
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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 08:55:32 EST
Subject: Piecing Foot

Hi everyone,

I have a 1010 I bought used and I'm really glad I now in the world of quality
sewing machines...........you know the story.

anyway, I have noticed that when I use my 37 foot to piece, I have to keep
the edge of fabric slightly under the edge of the foot for a 1/4 inch and
not even with the edge. Is this normal or do I have a bad foot? Or is
this clear as mud?
k-
karen 
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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 00:30:06 -0500
Subject: Re: bernina list

Hi,
I would love to remain on the Bernina list.  I have an 801 too-- then I got
an 1130.  I have the 2000D seger-- and I love that too.  My big question at
the moment is whether I should swing for an new machine that does writing--
ie 1530 or the 1260?  I can't remember the correct #.  I'm in the thinking
stage at the moment.  Lonnie
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 08:18:04 -0500
Subject: Piecing foot

Re:  karen in Clintno's query ... My Bernina is a 1080, and I, too, find that
my #37 piecing foot requires that the edge of the fabric be just under the
edge of the foot.  Either we both have bad feet,or this is normal!

My Bernina 1080 is a dream.  Didn't dare machine piece on my old Singer, and
this one is so accurate that piecing complex matches (held by pins) is no
problem.  Have had it about a year, and wonder why I didn't bit the bullet
and do it sooner.  Old machine was one of those Singer 600 series things with
the cams from the 1960's; it was never great, got progressively worse, and
after 3 $75 tune-ups, I finally came to the conclusion that it would not get
better, nor would it machine piece to my sataisfaction.  Enter Bernina... and
the sun shined.  --Addy in Maine
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 94 08:02:13 EST
Subject: Sergers
Hello, 
 
At this time I do not have a Bernina sewing machine, but have been dreaming
of getting one.   Last daughter will graduate from college in May!!!  Plan on
learning as much as possible between now and May so I make the right model
choice (sure am leaning toward the 1630).
 
Anyway, I have a question for a couple of friends.   They have recently
purchased bernina sergers and are asking about tips.   Would love to hear
from you about your likes and dislikes with yours.   Thank you.
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 08:55:56 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Satin Stitch Question

>I may as well be first with a question. I must confess that after admiring 
>Bernina's for almost 20 years, I finally became a proud owner 4 weeks ago.  
>Model # 1630. I was trying to do some satin stitch applique and found that the 
>machine seemed to work best at a fairly fast speed.  Do other people find the 
>satin stitch is best done fast?  Secondly, once in awhile the machine would 
stop and the stitches would back up.  Is that me and how do other people avoid 
it?  I >was using a tear-away backing.
>Thanks, 
>Sue T

Sue--

You were probably not using the right foot.  There is an embroidery foot (I 
can't remember the number) and the bottom of it has a groove that gets wider 
at the back.  If you look at the bottom, the groove looks like this:


                / \    (front of foot)
               /   \
              /     \   (back of foot)

Try using the embroidery foot and maybe lengthen your stitch.

Hope this helps...

Vicky
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:14:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Piecing Foot

I experienced the same problem. I finally gave up on the #37 foot. I now use
the metal guide in front on the stitch plate with much better success!
Marianne 
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 12:39:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Piecing Foot
> 
> anyway, I have noticed that when I use my 37 foot to piece, I have to
keep 
> the edge of fabric slightly under the edge of the foot for a 1/4
inch and 
> not even with the edge. Is this normal or do I have a bad foot?
Or is 
> this clear as mud? 
> karen
> 

Getting exactly 1/4" for your seam allowances depends on both your sewing
foot and your cutting technique. When you line up your ruler to measure
your fabric does the fabric just touch the line, go exactly to the center
of the line, or go to the far side of the line? For me, letting the fabric
go to the far side of the ruler line and then using the #37 foot exactly
at the edge works perfectly. 

Cathy
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 16:41:59 EST
Subject: Satin Stitch

I'm stepping out on a limb here but guesing satin stitch works 
the same as button holes. My bernina instructor told us to lengthen the
stitch so you can see a smidge of fabric through the thread. This will
make a smoother satin stitch.
k-
karen 
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 17:12:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Piecing Foot

My #37 seems to sew a "perfect" (of course if I goof things do go a bit off -
ha) 1/4 seem.  Is anyone else having this problem?
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 17:10:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Satin Stitch Question

That's a great hint! I use the decorative stitches all the time for crazy
quilt and just fooling around.  I'll have to try sewing faster to get my
stitches better.
As far as your stitches backing up.  Did you accidently set your D= button or
one of the "D's"  That may change things a bit for you.

Take care,
Jennifer
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 17:13:15 -0500
Subject: Re: bernina list

I LOVE my 1630.  I wouldn't settle for less.  It is a bit more $, but you'll
really enjoy it.
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 01:26:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: bernina digest

Hi, Sue, I'm not sure this is the way to address you, I realize not
necessary to post this to the list, unless we want to discuss the concept of
digest vs. not digest.  I vote for digest, since to get to a message there
are at present 2 pages of email addresses, etc. to go thru to get to
message.  The lists I subscribe to that are digests don't have any of that,
so is much easier to read, downloads much faster, takes less space.
    Of course, I have no idea of the impact of digesting on you, Sue, nor do
I know how to make that happen, so just take my comments as a vote from me.
 Whatever you decide to do, I will still read, I expect wonderful things to
come out of this list.  Thank you for starting it.  Mary
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 01:26:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Satin Stitch Question

Hi, all.  So glad to be here.  I have been a Bernina owner now for about 4
months and thrilled with it.  May I make a suggestion?  Since Bernina
presser feet all have a number shown on them, when we are referring to feet,
it would be helpful to mention the number.  It would save us all a lot of
time while we are scrambling thru our boxes looking to see if we have THAT
one.  Thanks.  Looking forward to chatting about different Bernina things
since I took two classes (not at B. stores) this summer, one was Machine
Embroidery, with special emphasis on B's since teacher has them (Maurine
Noble, who has a book just out from That Patchwork Place), a class on
Machine Quilting and a class just on cleaning the machine and what feet to
use for what!  Got lots of info and willing to share and discuss.  Hoping to
learn lots more, too.  Mary 
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 01:26:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Piecing foot

Addy, in answer to your question about the #37 foot, I understand that it is
normal for the fabric to be just at the edge of the foot, not showing on the
right.  That puts the fabric just at the 1/4" mark on the plate.  Actually
you can JUST see that 1/4" mark on the plate and that is what I use to guide
by.  Works perfectly every time.  Mary
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 94 13:51:45 -0800
Subject: New Member

The person who sent the message about having a Bernina 1230 and
thinking about upgrading didn't sign her name and address.  Beware-
on this mailing list, your header information is stripped off,
apparently.

So, to that person, and anyone else who's thinking about upgrading
from a 1230-  I'd like to buy the 1230.

-- Anne
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 17:56:39 -0500
Subject: Re:UP GRADE

I think you should hold on to your 1130's and 1230's for a while. They are
becoming in demand and that is because they are such wonderful machines. If
you want to monogram take a class in free motion work. I have a video on
Machine Embroidery and Beading by Machine. I have used all the Berninas since
1976 and love the machines . Let them get the bobbin system polished and the
upgrades done.......The answer to the sattin stitch quilty of the 1630 is the
upgrade that is now available at your dealership. The new board vastly
improves the quility of the stitch.  The bunching happens when you have the
stitch length too tight, or you are holding back the fabric,or you have the
wrong foot on.Hope that helps.              
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 18:05:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina 1230

I, too, am interested in upgrading my 1090 to a 1230. Does anyone know where
I might find a new or almost new 1230?
Marianne
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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 94 17:20:01 EST
Subject: help-1530tension problems

I am writing for a friend of mine who recently bought a 1530.  She had 
heard all of us bragging about our various Bernina models, so she took
the plunge.  She is having terrible problems with the tension.  The only
threads she can use are Mettler cotton thread, nylon quilting thread, and
some of the metallic threads.  Any other threads cause problems with the
tension, i.e. loops on the back or breaking.  The local Bernina dealer
where she bought it has been no help.  She's taken the machine in twice,
and each time it comes back worse.  They tell her that Mettler cotton is
the only thread she can use.  She's so frustrated that she is ready to throw
it out the door.   Are any other 1530 owners having this problem or does
she have a lemon of a machine or has the dealer not adjusted it properly?
Any suggestions would be welcome.

I have a 930 that I've had for over 10 years.  I dearly love it and haven't
been tempted yet to upgrade.  For the suggestion from Mary to refer to 
feet by number, please also refer to the name of the foot if possible.  
You may not be aware that the numbers were all changed on the feet a few
years ago when they enlarged the stitch width.  Therefore, if you refer
to the new number only, we won't be speaking the same language.

Deb
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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 12:12:59 -0500
Subject: Where we all ive

Hello-
I'd love to hear from any New Englanders or people planning a visit to the
area.  I live in Rhode Island.  Where's everyone else from?

Jennifer
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Subject: 1/4 inch seams, Voila!!
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 94 15:40:16 PST

Hi Everyone;

I had done this with my 930 Bernina and my Featherweight
Singer, but just now tried it with my new Bernina 1530.

1. Strip cut two pieces of fabric Exactly 1-1/2 inches 
   wide.

2. Using the #37 foot, needle in center position, right 
   side of fabric at right side of foot (no fabric 
   showing) and sew.

3. Measure that seam and it is Exactly 1/4 in.  Finger 
   press open and it measures 2-1/2 inches, right? NO, 
   WRONG, it now measures Under 2-1/2 inches.  Multiply 
   this time several seams and that is why exchange 
   squares etc. do not always match.

On the Bernina 1530 I have eleven needle positions and 
this is what I do, and I did the same thing on my 930 
even tho I only had 5 needle positions, but it does work 
better on a 1530 and probably the 1630 also. 

2. Using the #37 foot, move the needle one position to 
   the right, right side of fabric at right side of foot 
   (no fabric showing) and sew.

3. Measure that seam now and it is a (scant) 1/4 in.  
   Finger press open and it measures Exacatly 2-1/2 
   inches.  Voila, now your squares should fit together 
   better when doing exchanges .  :0} 

-- 
Jean
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Subject: 1530 tension
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 11:03:50 +0800 (WST)    

To the person who is ready to throw out her 1530.
I have two suggestions.  First, it sounds as if the bobbin tension might be
screwed up.  I know that every dealer on earth tells you not to mess with this,
but its worth a try.  Use the troublesome thread for this test.

1.  Write down where the little screw is now as if you are looking at a clock
(ie 3,6,9,12 oclock) this way you can go back to where you were if this isn't
the problem. Then sew a sample using a medium width and length zig zag so you
can compare it to the other
samples.  Use a fabric pen to label it so you don't forget what works and what
doesn't. [In fact I have two bobbin cases for my 1630; one for bobbin fill
type threads including mettler heirloom cotton and one for other stuff.  the
bobbin tension for the bobbin fill is considerably tighter.]

2. Turn the screw left a quarter of a turn to loosen the tension (Harriet
Hargreaves has a saying
"Righty tighty, Lefty Loosey).  Then sew a medium size zig- zag to check the
tension.  If it improves fiddle with the bobbin tension a quarter turn at a
time till its perfect.  If its worse go to step three.

3. Turn the screw back to where you started and try tightening the bobbin
tension (turn to the right) a quarter of a turn at a time.  Seew samples and
compare as in #2.

Second suggestion is to try threading the thread thru that little hole on the
bobbin case (not on a 1630).  Lastly, Borrow a bobbin case from someone else
see if yours is defective.

If none of this works contact Bernina US and complain about the dealer and see
if they can recommend anyone else in your area to do the Bernina warrrenty
I know from discussions with friends in the US that Bernina hear in OZ is a bit
more friendly and willing to help so a major complaint to the "big guys" might
help their attitude>

Hope this helps
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 02:41:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Piecing Foot

Sounds  to me like you have the same problem that I do.  I solved it by
moving the needle so that it comes out at 1/4 inch,  Lonnie
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Subject: Cleaning
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 21:53:11 +1100 (EST)   

I've had a Bernina 1090 since April after 27 years using an excellent 
Elna 1962 model. The Bernina is just as good as the Elna, probably 
better, especially for quilting (37 patchwork foot, knee raising the 
presser foot, stopping the needle in or out of the fabric). I haven't yet 
tried quilting because I'm so busy piecing five different quilts. 
Everything matches up beautifully and sews perfectly.

Two problems: cleaning and cabinet.

I clean my machine every 4 to 6 hours of use or at the end of every 
bobbin, whichever comes first. This was very easy for the Elna but I find 
it rather difficult to get the hook back into place after I have oiled 
the hook race. 

My Elna fitted into a special cabinet which allowed me to close the 
machine when it was not in use. This happened only when guests had to be 
accommodated in my sewing room, but it was possible to do because the 
machine was anchored into the cabinet and could be folded away. There is 
no special Bernina cabinet here in Melbourne, Australia,so far as I know. 
Is there anywhere else?

The cabinets I have seen are general sewing centers which have the 
machine at a rather high level, well above the desk height of my old 
machinserted into its cabinet. I have taken off part of the Elna cabinet 
and set the Bernina at the old level, which is a bit clumbsy, but works. 
However, there is a gap between the sewing area and the cabinet into 
which quilt pieces fall.

Any suggestions for either problem will be welcome.

Diane
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 08:11:53 EST
Subject: Feet

What is the #37 foot? I have a Bernina 1090 (and I love it!). Is this 
foot the patchwork foot? Why is this different from the standard foot
used for straight and zig-zag stitching?
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 09:25:15 -0500
Subject: I want a . . . ?

Hello Bernina afficianados!

I seek your wisdom.  I know next to nothing about what kind of Bernina I
want.  DH has kindly offered to buy me one for Christmas (in fact, he's
pretty excited about the prospect of being able to get me one--I like
that).  What is the favored "quilter's Bernina?"  Is it the 1091?  What
about the 1630?  I'll mostly be doing piecing and quilting with some
clothing and doll construction thrown in for good measure.  I'd like to be
able to do the best machine quilting ever.  I'd like the option of tons of
different stitches too.  Ideally, I'd like to be able to create my own
stitches--a wish not a necessity.

I hope I'm not exceedingly vague, but we haven't even started shopping yet.
I'd just like to have some idea of what I want to get.  I'm willing to
spend $1200 to $1500 of DH's money.  ;-D  Can you tell me what's in my
price range?

Thanks everyone!  I hope to come back to you all some day soon and report a
new arrival to my household.  Keep your fingers crossed!!!

Amy 
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Date: 21 Nov 1994 09:15:49 -0600
Subject: Misc.

Hi everyone!
I'm really going to enjoy this list.  Thanks Sue!

Does anyone know if the walking foot for the 1630 is available yet?  It was
under development, and I knew that some Bernina specialists had early
realease prototypes for evaluation, but it hasn't been released yet to the
general public.  

To the person thinking of upgrading from a 1230 to a 1630.  
That is what I did, and I sometimes miss the 1230.  The 1630 is great for
decorative or directional sewing, but the 1230 had a prettier straight stitch
(no tiny wiggles on the bobbin side).   My .02 cents only.  (I'm going to try
to adjust the bobbin case tension, per the directions posted earlier.)  

Quarter inch seam allowance-
I move the needle possition over to the second notch from the right (11
needle positions), for a scant quarter inch seam allowance, using the edge of
the pressor foot #1 as a fabric guide.  I also place a piece of masking tape
in front of the foot to use as a guide.   The patchwork foot #37, doesn't
work as well on the 1630, because of the wider feed dogs (9mm).  I have one
which I don't use anymore.  Is anyone interested in it, make me an offer.

Satin Stitch problems- Try using a open toe applique foot #20 with a 5mm
width opening (instead of the one which came with the 1630, which has a 9mm
opening)

Cheers, and everyone have a great Thanksgiving week &turkey day in the US! 
I certainly have a lot to be thankful for.........

Phyllis  
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Date:           Mon, 21 Nov 94 17:59 EST
Subject:        Question about bobbins

Hi all.  I just recently became a proud owner of a Bernina 1230 and still
kick myself for waiting so long.  I had an old Sears Kenmore and then a few
years back bought a low-end New Home.  I ended up liking my old Kenmore
better than my New Home, which was a big motivation for finally upgrading
to a Bernina.

Anyway, I have all this paraphernalia left over like old metal bobbins I have
purchased over the years and I have noticed that my Bernina does not care for
them.  They are mostly Dritz bobbins I have picked up on sale from time to
time.  When I use any of my non-bernina bobbins in the 1230, the stitching is
not even - the top thread ends up laying on top of the fabric.  It appears
that the bobbin thread is too loose.  Last night I did some testing and
narrowed it down to a definate bobbin problem.

Before I start messing with tension (against strick orders from my dealer to
NEVER, NEVER touch the tension), does anyone have any similiar experience or
advice on this?  Is my machine too picky and I should visit my dealer?  Or do
I just need to either stick with Bernina bobbins or keep a second bobbin case
adjusted for use with non-Bernina bobbins?

Any advice would be appreciated.  Thanks.
Judy
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 22:57:21 -0500
Subject: Which Bernina?

Dear Bernina afficionados

I too am just about in Amy's spot.  I haven't searched for a sewing machine
since 1973.  I want the ideal quilters machine, one that will make those
great accurate scant 1/4 inch seams I have been reading about and one that
will easily do machine quilting.  I would also like some kind of a table that
will allow a large surface to hold the quilt at the same level as the machine
surface, but will allow easy access to the bobbin.  I don't think I want the
top of the line, but wonder why those of you are moving up are doing so.
 What do the higher models offer that you really need?  

Which model do you recommend, and what is available in tables to fit the
machines flush with table?

Would I be better off with a quilting machine rather than a Bernina, and just
figure out some way to do my piecing with my industrial sewing machine?

Please post answers to Amy to me as well, or post them to the list.  Thanks.

Barb
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Subject: Re: Question about bobbins
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 22:42:53 PST

Hi;

Yes, you should by all means stick to the Bernina bobbins,
makes a big difference.  Good luck!!  :0)

-- 
Jean
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Subject: Re: Bobbins
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 07:04:08 -0600 (CST)

In regard to the question of leftover bobbins, I would suggest
making jewelry, cat toys, etc. out of them and buying bobbins
that wouldn't cause so much trouble.

The tension on the bobbin case is set for the bobbins that
come with/you can buy for your machine.  If you try to set
the tension for your old bobbins, you'll be in a position
of having to constantly making sure you have an old bobbin,
or change the tension when you've got a Bernina bobbin
wound up and ready to go.  Over time, I the
screw in the bobbin case would start to loosen up, and
eventually, the bobbin case would have to be replaced.  THEY
ARE EXPENSIVE!!  I received an extra bobbin case 2 yrs. ago for
using with ribbon floss, metallics, etc.  My sister (who was
a Bernina instructor for 3 yrs and set the tension in the new case
for the decorator threads, and that is what I use it for -exclusively-) 
bought it with her discount and still paid around $30.  You 
could buy a lot of bobbins for that.

You've spent the money to get a top-of-the-line machine.  Cutting
back expense on bobbins, IMHO, isn't worth it!  

Mary 
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 08:42:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Which Bernina?

I hemmed and stitched over this one too.  I finally ended up with the 1630
and the table that goes with it.  I love it.  I did look into the Gammil
quilting machines along with others.  I feel I have much more at my hands
with the 1630.  I love to crazy quilt and the stitches are fantastic.  As far
as the perfect 1/4" - I use foot no. 37 and haven';t had a problem.  I also
use a teflon foot for quilting (I think it's no. 50).  The walking foot is
still not around here so I'm pulling my hair out waiting for it.

I do want to get a machine specifically for quilting, but am very happy with
my choice.  Good luck to you.
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 09:17:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: bernina list

Dear Lonnie,

     I replied to  all members because I think it is worth thinking about.
I sell Berninas (part-time) at G-St. and I am very interested in the new 
monogram machine that is coming out.  Since you have a Bernina (they are 
all good... the newer ones have more features) I would wait and look at 
the monogram machine since you want to write.  Your 801 is a great 
machine.  It has self adjusting tension and probably sews wonderfully well.
If you are looking for fancy stitches I think this monogram machine is 
going to be really great.  I hav e seen some patterns it has sewen and 
the stitch quality is excellent.  I am excited about this machine and am 
putting it on my wish list if it lives up to the advance notices.
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 09:52:43 EST
Subject: Re: I want a . . . ?

Amy - Talking to you again.  Get that machine before you start the border
exchange.  I love my Bernina which is a 1090 - number may have changed in the
last two years.  I especially like the knee pedal that lift the presser foot
and the start and stop with the needle in that the foot pedal allows you to
do.  I use the 1/4 inch foot and it works well plus the 1/4 inch mark on the
throat plate.  I did not get the computer machine because I did not ever
intend to do the fancy stitches.  I love my machine. Good luck with your
decision.  Rosalie
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 12:09:29 EST
Subject: Re: Feet

the 37 foot is used for straight stitching, if you used it for zig-zag,
you'd break your needle because there is no place for your zig or zag to 
go. The opening is a narrow slit in the center. It is used for patchwork
because it is 1/4 from the center needle position to the edge of the 
foot. It can also be used for 1/8" piecing but you ave to be very good
at keeping the fabric evenly on the inside of the toe.

k-
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:37:26 EST
Subject: RE: Question about bobbins

stick with bernina bobbins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: 22 Nov 1994 13:00:17 -0500
Subject: which bernina?

For those who might not want to pay top of the line, I sure recommend the
1031.  I have had mine for over a year.  It has the nice buttonholer, the
knee lift pressor foot, and the needle up or down features that are so great.
 I've done some machine quilting with good success.  About $1200-1300 range.
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Date:           Tue, 22 Nov 94 18:30 EST
Subject:        Re: Bobbins

Thanks to all that replied.  The response was unanimous - what I
should do with my wayward bobbins is dump them!!! 

Judy (who is now looking for some good bobbin crafts)

Judy Danz         
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 19:28:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Question about bobbins

The answer to the bobbin question is NEVER use a bobbin made for any other
machine . For that matter do not use any thing but Bernina products in your
machine like big foot or little foot. You get the best results with Bernina
parts.  As for bobbin tension get a extra bobbin case to experiment with and
keep one set for sewing. I adjust my extra case for heavy threads and special
effects. 
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 20:56:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Question about bobbins
> 
> The answer to the bobbin question is NEVER use a bobbin made for any other
> machine . For that matter do not use any thing but Bernina products in your
> machine like big foot or little foot. You get the best results with Bernina

I have to disagree when it comes to the big foot. I have used it on my 
1130 ever since I got the machine and have _never_ had a problem. I also 
have the "Little Foot" but don't like it; I much prefer the #37 foot.

Cathy
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Subject: Big Foot
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 18:34:17 PST

I have been advised by a very experienced quilter and
long time Bernina owner to but the generic "Big foot".
Other than this she only uses Bernina parts on her
machine as I always have.

She does lots of machine quilting and swears by the 
"Big Foot" that is clear and looks like a saucer and
sort of has a star opening shape in the center and
she uses this foot with the adapter.

This foot is shown in Nancy's Notions, Catalog #23 on
page 127, but oddly enough it also refers to page 54
and that one is not the same foot, :-/ but page 127 is 
the right one.I have been meaning to phone and ask 
about this.

Have any of you used the saucer shaped foot?

-- 
Jean                                      
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 22:17:55 -0700
Subject: Re: Question about Big Foot
>
>I have to disagree when it comes to the big foot. I have used it on my 
>1130 ever since I got the machine and have _never_ had a problem. I also 
>have the "Little Foot" but don't like it; I much prefer the #37 foot.
>
>Cathy

  What is the Big Foot foot? Betty  
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 03:53:29 -0500
Subject: Re: 1530 tension

Hi,
I loved the lesson on tension as I had a problem with another Bernina that I
had and I called Bernina ( the company )  .  They forced the dealer to take
back the machine and provide me with a new one.  I got my 1130 and it has
been wonderful.  Where is this dealer that you are talking about?  I wonder
if it is the same one?  Also could we please sign the notes so we know who we
are talking to, Lonnie
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 04:29:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Feet

I have to admit that I am hooked on my 37 foot for quilting.  It is really
more fun, more exact and better for piecing.  Lonnie
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 04:39:14 -0500
Subject: Re: I want a . . . ?

Amy, Get any Bernina and you will be happy.  Actually I have and 1130 and I
have been thinking of upgrading to a 1630 or a 1260.  I am not sure that I
want all the features ont he 1530 or1630.  I want the alphabet and I want the
Bernina sewing quality but other than that I have to have the knee foot
raiser and the buttonholer and , and -----
Can you tell I love my Bernina.  I broke down and bought a new machine for my
8 year old,  I got her a Brother last year and she has really been sewing.
 It was such a horrible machine that she would often ask me to use my
machine.  It is interesting to note that my 8 year old knows the difference
:-)  Is that like mother , like daughter or what?  Actually I bought her a
Bernette and it is alot nicer machine.  It was on sale in a store in NJ so I
picked it up for a great price.  I think that I remember the 1630 being 2000
ish,  I cannot swing that now and I certainly wouldn't trade my 1130 in.  My
23 year old has her dibs in on it.  Lonnie
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 04:44:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Misc.

Phyllis, Thanks for the advice,  It was helpful.  Now if I eliminate the 1630
what is the feedback on the 1260 which has many of the upgrade features that
I want.  I mainly want the alphabet as I am incredibly impressed with the
decorations that some have done on the quilt blocks.  Otherwise I am a plain
old straight piecer with a coats, pants and fleece tops thrown in sew person.
 Lonnie
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 04:53:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Question about bobbins

I have definately found that my Bernina is bery picky about thread,  I had a
huge problem with tension too which I solved be using Metesene (sp) thread,
 I figure a swiss machine just likes swiss thread.  Now that seems to point
out that we should stick to our own kind-- but my house is so mixed up we
haven't quite followed through on that thought.  
I too have alot to be thankful for on this Thanksgiving-- Five kids home for
the holiday-- all different sizes and colors--- and a DH that is great.  So
much for this mussy stuff ,,  The jewish elf has to sew, sew and sew for the
holidays,  Lonnie
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Date: 23 Nov 1994 09:43:45 -0800
Subject: Re: 1530 tension

Re:  Lonnie said,
> Also could we please sign the notes so we know who we
are talking to.

I'd like to add:  please give your email address so we can respond
individually if it's appropriate.  Not everyone's address in the header is as
easy to decifer as mine.  Thanks!

Sue
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 12:51:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Question about Big Foot
> >
>   What is the Big Foot foot? Betty 
> >

Betty, the Big Foot is using for free motion quilting (with the feed dogs 
lowered). It is a clear, saucer-shaped disk that flattens out the 
quilting surface and also allows you to see where you are going and where 
you have been.

Cathy
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 15:56:09 -0500
Subject: BOOK

Can any of you experienced Bernina owners recommend a good book on how to use 
Bernina sewing machines?  I really need one.

I bought a 1031 ("top-0f-the-line mechanical", they said) this summer after an
aged Singer bit the dust.  The manual that came with the 1031 is very inadequate
, remarkably bad compared to the Singer manual.  If I didn't know a good bit 
about sewing, I think the mistranslations and poor or lacking transitions would sink me every time I use it.  Anyway, when I get a chance to sew (rarely in the fall semester), I get frustrated trying to figure things out.   I live more than twenty miles from the nearest dealership, and the instruction I received there when I bought the machine was not very good.

What do you suggest?  Many thanks!
Margaret in Ypsilanti, where we have sun and horizontally-falling snow.

Margaret
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:31:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Feet

The #37 is an "exact" 1/4 inch foot.  Ahem.  However, I've found you still
have to do the scant thing to make a perfect match.  Drives me crazy
sometimes.  I want a foot that I can actually USE the edge.  :)

I just got a 1260 and I was having a problem with the feet not sitting
straight on the machine.  I called and the woman wanted me to bring it in so
she could REPLACE it, but it would be two weeks because they were back
ordered, etc.  The feet would shift to either side of straight, but not
straight and I was worried about forcing it.  However, since she said she was
going to replace it, I figured I had nothing to lose.  I needed something I
could get a grip on and apply a bit of torque but controlled, so I put on the
walking foot with the long extension, grabbed the extension and swiveled it
straight quick as you please with NO forcing.  I was so proud of myself.  :D

Kelly
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:32:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Question about Big Foot

I don't like the Big Foot because you can  not see your stitch. The Bernina #
29 foot is much easier to see where you are, where you have been, and where
you are going. It has a higher clearance and your quilt moves freely.  I even
use it to bead with!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Date:           Wed, 23 Nov 94 18:00 EST
Subject:        RE: Re: I want a . . . ?

When I bought my 1230 a while back, the dealer gave me a handful of the
Bernina magazine from this past year (Creative Sewing I think is the name).
I was looking through them last night and I noticed there are a number of hints
about using the 1530 and 1630.  It occurred to me anyone thinking of upgrading
might want to "borrow" a few of the recent copies from their dealer and spend
some time looking at the hints and techniques to see more detail about
a few of the features.

Food for thought.

Judy

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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 14:03:20 -0500
Subject: Re: BOOK

Best collection of book for the Bernina sre by MARY LOU NALL your dealer
should have them or Nancy's Notion Cat. carries them. They are great!!!!!!!!!
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Subject: Re: BOOK
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 94 15:56:24 PST
From: Jean Post 

Does she actually have one that covers the 1530?  I have
"Know Your Bernina", but that covered my 930.  My dealer
is new to Bernina, carries many brands of machines and
doesn't go to deep into the books.

Jean 
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Subject: Walking foot
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 16:40:50 +0800 (WST)

Hi, I don't understand about the walking foot problem for the 1630.  The
generic Bernina foot fits mine.  I know because I just tried it.  Is the
problem that the hole is not 9mm wide?  I bought my Bernina here(Australia) in
July and made it part of the deal.  should I go back and complain?
Kay 
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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 94 10:45:36 -0500
Subject: Walking Foot

Whne I bought my Bernina 1630, Iwas told that there was no specific walking foot for it.  I bought the generic walking foot and was told that if one for the 1630 became available, I could trade the generic foot in for the 1630 foot.  I've only done one quilt with the generic one, but it seems to work fine.

Hope everyone here in the US had a great turkey day yesterday.!
Sue 
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Subject: New Bernina!
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 14:36:25 -0500 (EST)   

Hello and Happy Thanksgiving Weekend to all -

I had to share my excitement with folks who will understand.
I just got my holiday present early - a 1230!  This is a
machine I can really grow into.  It's a demonstrator that had been 
put on the showroom floor of our local sewing center in the
summer and not used a lot.  I understood the sales rep to
say that the 1230 has now been replaced by the 1260 model.
I sat in the store for hours trying this and that - my DH was
very sweet and patient through it all.  Now my 20+ year old
Kenmore can be retired.

All hints and tips are welcome!

Barbara 
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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 18:54:18 -0500
Subject: Re: BOOK

MARY LOU NALL 's books are about the feet and their applications. SHE WRITES
OF TECHNIQUESJUST FOR BERNINA...... There are a number of titles. Her address
is:
MARY LOU NALL 
10641 GULF BEACH HWY. #A 
PENSACOLA, FLORIDA 32507

Another sorce for Bernina techniques is the advanced guide book which now has
two additions.It is sold through your dealer. Bernina also publishes a series
of pamflets called FOOTNOTES.
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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 94 08:22:12 EST
Subject: Re: BOOK

Hi--

I purchased a book called "Know Your Bernina" - I can't remember the author
but I can look it up if you're interested. There are a whole series of
these books for various machines. I like this one because they have
different projects to do, illustrate what size stitch and what width
stitch to use for different things, and even give you a dictionary of
feet to use with your Bernina. I use it for a reference frequently when I go
to do something (like machine applique for example) and it's easy to read
and use. I agree that the manuals that come with the machine are poor. 

Hope this helps

Linda
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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 10:36:51 -0500
Subject: Another Question on Bobbin Cases

Hi Bernina lovers!

I'm working on a x-mas tree skirt and I'm finding it nearly impossible to
mark the quilting pattern on the Hoffman fabric I'm using (can't see it, it's
too busy).  So my question is, can I use metallic thread in the bobbin case
(I have a 1031)?  I know the rule of thumb is only on the top, but I was
thinking if I mark the quilting on the backing and put the metallic thread in
the bobbin, I'll see the marked quilting lines and get the metallic quilting
I need on the print side.  I'd be using muslin colored thread on top.

Is this possible?  Could I just loosen the tension screw on the bobbin case
to accommodate the metallic thread?  I'm thinking probably not but you'd
never know until you've asked :-).

Piece in peace,

Pat 
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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 94 08:57:28 -0500
Subject: Re: BOOK

>Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 14:03:20 -0500
>Subject: Re: BOOK
>
>Best collection of book for the Bernina sre by MARY LOU NALL your dealer
>should have them or Nancy's Notion Cat. carries them. They are great!!!!!!!!!


The books you reference, are they generic? Is there information for the 1530?

Lynette 
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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 12:34:20 -0500
Subject: walking foot and decorative stitches

I'm wanting to use some decorative stitches in my quilting.  Does that mean I
can't use my walking foot for that part?  I've broken several needles by not
having the right foot on (gotta learn to pay attention, I get in a creative
trance) and I wonder if the walking foot will let  me do it.

Kelly
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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 05:57:36 -0500
Subject: Re: BOOK

>Date: Mon, 28 Nov 94 08:22:12 EST
>Subject: Re: BOOK>
>Hi--
>
>I purchased a book called "Know Your Bernina" - I can't remember the author
>but I can look it up if you're interested. There are a whole series of
>these books for various machines. I like this one because they have
>different projects to do, illustrate what size stitch and what width
>stitch to use for different things, and even give you a dictionary of
>feet to use with your Bernina. I use it for a reference frequently when I go
>to do something (like machine applique for example) and it's easy to read
>and use. I agree that the manuals that come with the machine are poor.
>Hope this helps
>Linda
>linda@mc.com

Does this book include information on the 1630?

Lynette 
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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 09:15:38 EST
Subject: Re: walking foot and decorative stitches

Kelly,
I was told in my bernina class (how to use the machine you just bought)
that you could use the walking foot for decorative stitches EXCEPT the
reverse motion ones. The upper dogs on the walking foot don't back the
fabric up to the exact place so the needle doesn't enter the same hole,
like on the honeycomb stitch. YOu'll have to try it on scrap fabric and
batting to see if you like the results.

k-
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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 09:52:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Another Question on Bobbin Cases

Dear Friend,

    NEVER adjust the bobbin case that came with your machine.  It has been
calibrated at the manufactures and will cause you grief in other stitches if
you start messing around with it.  Buy ANOTHER bobbin case (put nail polish
on it so you don't get it mixed up with the pre-adjusted one) and 
"experiment"with that bobbin case.  I sell Berninas so I know what a mess people get themselves into when they fool around with their bobbin cases.
                  Jacque 
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Subject: Re: Another Question on Bobbin Cases
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 08:35:11 -0800 (PST)

> Piece in peace,

Hah!  I love it!
-- 
Jennifer
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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 15:25:55 -0500
Subject: Metallic thread in bobbin

>>can I use metallic thread in the bobbin case...Could I just loosen 
the tension screw on the bobbin case to accommodate the metallic 
thread?<<  

My suggestion would be to bypass the tension mechanism on the bobbin 
case entirely and just run the thread through the eye at the top of 
the bobbin case.  Experiment on a scrap quilt sandwich and regulate 
tension by changing the top tension only.  It won't hurt to try.  

Mary 
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Subject: Oops and I finally used my new Bernina
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 16:23:02 -0800 (PST)

Oops sorry about the last post.  I forget that all mailing
lists are configured differently.

I bought a Bernina 1001 last October with my nonbase salary.
I haven't had a chance to use it until over the Thanksgiving
Day break.  

WOW!  It sews like a dream.  It is so different from my
old sewmore.  It was like switching from driving my dad's
old '72 volvo 245 (manual everything) to a new Acura Integra.
You feel the road in both, but somehow, it's a very differnt
experience.

I went shopping for the little foot.  Is Bernina just out 
for another buck?  I so irritated that the standard
foot on a machine marketed to quilters is not 1/4 of an inch.
Rant, rant, rant.

Anyway I went to my local quilt shop and priced the little foot.
$23 (US) - am I just out of it, or is that very expenseive for
a little metal tool?  I didn't get it because it wasn't a
Bernina and for $23 I wasn't willing to take a chance that it 
didn't fit.  I'm going to go consider the one you guys recommended
at the local dealer.

Oh, well, it will all be worth it.  I couldn't bear to go
back to my old Sewmore, now.  Of course, the Sewmore's foot
was a 1/4 inch.
--
Jennifer 
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 11:59:33 +1100
Subject: Re[1]: Another Question on Bobbin Cases

Reply to Pat question re metallic thread. 
I wanted to quilt a whole quilt in gold thread and found when I stipple quilted from the top of the quilt my gold thread constantly frayed and broke (because of the speed, I think, used correct needles etc) Anyway, not to be beaten, I outlined areas to be quilted by putting a running stitch thru all layers with buttonhole twist. Turned the quilt over, carefully wound metallic thread onto several bobbins, loosened screw and 'fair dinkum' it was soooooo easy and a very satisfactory result. All freehand quilting with the darning foot (forget No. I'm in the office,not in studio, too late and lazy to check)

Cya,
Cheryl 
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Subject: Metallic Thread in Bobbin
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 06:58:45 -0600 (CST)

In answer to Pat question about putting metallic
thread in the bobbin, I took the question to my sister (a
former Bernina instructor).  She's used ribbon floss, 
cording, etc. (heavier threads/cords) in the bobbin but not 
metallics.  Her suggestions:

1. Wind the bobbin just like you would for regular thread.  
Using the product Sewer's Aid on the spool of thread OR
on the bobbin after it's wound would probably be helpful
(it wouldn't hurt).

2. Don't put the metallic thread through the eye of the
bobbin case (I specifically asked her about this because
I would have).  Threading the eye of the bobbin case pulls
the top thread more to the back of the fabric - I do this
when doing buttonholes and doing topstitching when I
DEFINITELY don't want the bobbin thread to show on the top
of the fabric.  When you do reverse work like what Pat is
suggesting, threading the eye of the bobbin case would pull
the top thread (from the needle) to the back of the piece
she's working on (which would be the right side of the piece
she's working on)  Clear as mud??

The top of the tree skirt --*--*--*--*--  (-- = metallic thread
from the bobbin;  * = regular thread from the needle)

3. Don't loosen the tension on the bobbin case.  This would
be a "last ditch" effort to make it work IF tension seemed to
be a problem.

4. Thread fraying is a DEFINITE possibility (Sewer's Aid might
help this).  If the thread frays when testing it out on a scrap,
my sister suggested taking the metallic thread on the bobbin and
rewinding it onto another bobbin.  All threads have a warp, and
the fraying could be caused by the warp of the thread going through
the bobbin the "rough" way.

5.  Make sure the bobbin hook (this is a part of the machine -
*not* the bobbin) is "completely, absolutely, certainly", etc.
free of any burrs, rough spots, etc. The bobbin hook is what
makes the top thread and the bobbin thread to interact to make
stitches.  If your bobbin hook has a burr or rough spot, it'll
shred that metallic thread faster than anything.

6.  If you do have problems with the thread, try another brand
of metallic thread.  My sister thinks Sulky thread is one of 
the better specialty threads.  She's had very good luck with
the Sulky brand, but realizes that machines can have their own
personalities. ;-)

7.  Needle size shouldn't be a problem, unless you've got a
needle in the machine that is unsuitable for the type/weight 
of fabric you are sewing on (i.e., a denim needle sewing on
cotton).

Good luck on your Christmas tree skirt!

Mary 
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 08:16:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Oops and I finally used my new Bernina
 
HI!
     I have both feet and actually like both of them.  The Bernina has the
advantage in that it already fits whereas the little foot needs a long shank
adaptor.  I found that the Bernina foot has another advantage.  One can sew
a "scant" 1/4 inch by moving your needle position.  I took a miniture 
class and it was very important to sew about 2 threads less than 1/4 inch 
and the bernina foot and needle adjustment allowed for that.  It is a 
metal foot and baring being lost by an offspring or eaten by the dog it 
should last a lifetime.  One thing I like about bernina is that most of 
the feet are inchangable (the 1630 have some extra wide feet).  If you 
ever change models you can still use your special feet. 
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 08:59:26 -0500
Subject: Metallic thread in bobbin

I am in the process of buying a Bernina (possibly today!)  At the dealer's I
remembered the metallic bobbin thread question and asked about it.  She said
there is a special "Black-latch" bobbin case (#001-534-7202 in the
accessories pamphlet she gave me) that is especialy for thicker threads in
the bobbin.

Any advice on whether as a quilter and computer expert I will be likely to
use all the 1630 features enough to pay the $1000 more over the 1090?  Has
anyone out there gotten the computer interface and designed your own
stitches?  I would like to hear about it if you have.  Please answer
immediately on the 1630 vs 1090 as I have to decide today as price goes up
tomorrow!

Thanks,

Barb
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 09:08:25 -0500
Subject: Quarter inch foot

Jennifer in California mentioned price of Little Foot.  I recently 
switched from Little Foot to the Bernina quarter inch foot (#37; 
Bernina calls it the patchwork foot) and the Bernina foot is 
wonderful, and also backward compatible to the 830.  I'd never go 
back to Little Foot again, as it is clunky compared to the Bernina 
one which is even more expensive, but definitely worth it.  Bernina 
feet ARE expensive but will last forever.  If they are something you 
will use a lot, go for it!  

A question for those of you on America Online:  whatever happened to 
the Bernina message board they used to have? I looked in Exchange 
but no luck. I just got a 1530 (had an 830 and a Pfaff 1473) and now 
have a new interest in all message boards re: Berninas. Please 
e-mail me as this will be of no interest to those not on AOL. 

Mary 
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 17:27:22 -0500
Subject: Administrative - This is a test

Hi Everyone, 
I hate to take up bandwidth with this test, but I'm trying something that will 
hopefully make the headers smaller.  If you have a minute, please let me know if 
this works.  If it doesn't, I install the new mailer program.
Thanks, 
Sue 
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 20:50:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Metallic thread in bobbin

I have gotten good results using my eye of the bobbin - but I must admit my 830 doesn't care for anything too fancy.  I have found that it matters which way I wind my bobbin for metallic thread, you just have to experiment.
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 21:51:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Metallic Thread in Bobbin

Hello-

Thanks for the info. on metallic thread.  Now I have a stupid question.  When
you say not to put the thread through the eye of the bobbin case, do you mean
to leave the thread " hanging' and then sew that way?  

Jennifer
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Subject: Re: Quarter inch foot
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 20:49:33 PST

Hi;

In AOL you have to go to the  "Sewing" board for Bernina.  Sounds
like you are having fun with the 1530!!  :0}