Bernina Fan Club Archives

November 95

Sunday, November 5th - Saturday, November 11th

Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 12:21:53 -0500
Subject: Re: No Subject

I agree with the rave about PINE TREE  mail order.  They called me while I
was out of town and left three messages on my service.  My secretary called
me long distance to tell me she thought this was important.  I called and
they wanted to know If I wanted LEFT or RIGHT hand finger guard ruler.  I'm a
leftie.  The ruler was there before I got back home.  It is wonderful to have
such service in this day and age where the customer in usually considered a
pain in the neck.
Date: 05 Nov 95 17:37:43 EST
Subject: Acrylic table


 Where did you get this table (extention), and about how much was it?  It
sounds like a must have.

Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 18:25:48 EST
Subject: Sewing Club Name

Gee!  Thanks for all the creative suggestions for a name for our 
sewing club.  The gals will be impressed with how many ideas I have 
come up with for our meeting on Nov. 30.  I suppose I should admit to 
getting help from the Bernina Fan Club.  I'll let you all know what 
name we decide on.

Subject: American Girls doll clothes
Date: 05 Nov 95 18:29:18 -0600

My daughter has the American Girl Samantha doll and loves it.  The
accompanying books can be purchased locally and make popular birthday
gifts (my daughter is 7) but the dolls have to be mail ordered.  The
latest catalogs do not include the patterns for the doll clothes.  I
wish i had ordered it when i saw it.  However, I have noticed that in
Sew Beautiful magazine Martha Pullen frequently has a dress patteern for
an American Girls doll and a matching one for a little girl.
Terri Santa Coloma in New Orleans
P.S. If anyone has an extra American Girls doll clothes pattern they
would like to sell I'm interested.
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 19:35:27 -0500
Subject: REPLIES

Patches:  I have a 1530 and have no idea what you are referring to in you
question.  Can you remember why you asked which machine I have?  I need to be
more specific in my responses because I can't remember what I have asked

Patches:  Won't you share those selling techniques you have experienced with
all of us on the Board?  I'd love some practical advice on selling.

Subject: re:starching cottons

Hi, Check out Debra Wagner's book Machine Quilting.  She uses a sprayer
(insecticide empty bought at local garden shop).  I don't have time to spray
and iron five times.  I wash fabric (usually 100% cotton) clipping corners to
prevent raveling wads tangling.  The I dry fabric as usual.  I then soak the
fabric in 100% household liquid starch.  I dry til damp - usually air dry on
a tension rod over the guest bathtub or line dry if pretty day.  I used to
drape it over the rail of my deck but it got dirty out there and I lost a
piece to the wind.  DH found it next time he mowed the lawn but it was mottle
and bleached from the sun.  It is interesting and I will use the piece
eventually but wouldn't want all my fabric to do this.  Then as it is almost
dry, I iron it with the grain or it does stretch.  Once ironed though it is
stiff as a piece of construction paper and I have had no problems piecing
since I began this technique.  During fabric swaps at the guild meetings some
people turn up their noses and say - whisper - "she Starches her fabric." But
it is nothing to wash it out.  I piece, quilt by machine (I doubt you could
hand quilt this paper texture.) Bind it and then wash it either in the
machine or tub with Tail and Mane Shampoo for horses and rinse a couple of
times.  Then dry either line or machine.  All the starch is out.  Usually it
flakes off somewhat as you sew.  Also you need to clean the machine each time
your bobbin runs out.  I have had good luck with this.  I almost cannot sew
on plain fabric any more.

SKAY -Write about Metallica Needle.
Hi, when you buy your needle get a Metallica for fancy thread especially
metalic.  It is the greatest.  It is coated in the eye with teflon (no you
can't see it).  That makes a world of difference.
Date: 05 Nov 95 20:17:01 EST
Subject: Bernina Digest 11/3/95

To Judy D re Bernina Designer PC software:

I have software, and I have had no problems with it.  It is simple to install,
and if you read the manual (not everyone feels this is important, but it is)  it
is pretty easy to use. The cable is supplied with the software.  You just plug
the cable in to a free serial port on your computer, and plug the other end into
your sewing machine (plug is similar to a memory key plug).  Then you either
draw a design from a software package or from Windows Paintbrush, or scan a
design, save it as a .bmp file, import it into the Designer software, set the
stitches, and then transfer the design to your machine to be stitched out.  It
takes a little practice to set the stitches properly, but not a lot. The
drawbacks for me are:  I have to carry my sewing machine to the room where the
computer is to transfer the design to the sewing machine.  Normally it is
upstairs, so this is a pain.  However, I can scan or draw several designs and
set the stitches, so that I don't have to do this until I am ready to sew.  I
have found, though, that I want to stitch them out to see how they look, so I
usually haul the machine down every time.  Secondly, I didn't find the manual
difficult to read, just not extensive enough.  They give you one complete design
to "walk you through" how to do it, but I would have liked to do several designs
in different sizes.  I also would have liked some information on how to set long
stitches into the design, so that I could start the design at different places.
Some extra clip art would have been nice.  Extra design disks available for
purchase would also be nice (not available to my knowledge).  There is a Bernina
Designer newsletter published four times a year, available from the dealer, but
so far it has mostly repeated what is in the manual.  There were some clip art
designs in the last two.  Maybe when there is more interest, Bernina will supply
more.  I had a terrible time locating a dealer who knew anything about it.  I
tried four different dealers until I found one who was at least willing to try
to find out, but no one in the store is familiar enough with the software to
help me much.  I think the software is pretty simple overall, however, and I
like being on the ground floor.  I hope they upgrade it and expand its
capabilities.  Hope this helps.  Pat
Date: 05 Nov 95 20:20:12 EST
Subject: Bernina Digest 11/3/95

Judy D re Bernina Designer software:

Judy, I forgot to tell you-I have a Logitech color scanner, and it works great
with the software.  I think it was in the neighborhood of $400.  It is not a
flatbed type, but one that sits on the desk-it is about the same size as a 3
hole punch.  I can insert a page into it, or take off the bottom and it "walks"
across a page in a book, or whatever.  Pat
Date: 05 Nov 95 20:29:17 EST
Subject: Bernina Digest 11/4/95

Erin, I can also vouch for Mr. B's in San Francisco.  Everything that has been
said is accurate.  I have purchased two Berninas from them, and they are very
supportive and fair.   Unfortunately, they no longer have the Oakland shop.  I
can also vouch for The Sewing Machine Shop in Walnut Creek.  I go there now, as
it is so much closer to where I live, and they installed the circuit board I
needed for the Bernina Designer software.  Gayle is the most dependable sales
person I have ever known.  She goes the extra mile for you and is very helpful.
I just bought my 2000 DCE serger from them, and they serviced the 334D serger
before I bought it.  They are neat people and very knowledgeable about Berninas.
If you have any questions send me your Email address.  Pat
Date: Mon,  6 Nov 95 02:16:00 UTC 0000
Subject: Bernina Digest 11/4/95

    I have a 1630...haven't tried the circular embroidery attachment, though
I thought the 1630 had a special throat you may have a problem.
 Did you get the flyer on the circular embroidery attachment (it's one of
those extra 75 cent items).  I saw in there that you can do yo yo's by
machine by zigzagging over gimp.
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 21:46:36 -0500
Subject: Re: 1130 Ruffler on the 1630?

Try holding your right thumb over the part on the right side of the ruffler
that goes forward and backward and only let it come part way out.  This is
almost impossible to explain without showing you in person, but just
experiment with holding things back a bit.
Date: Mon,  6 Nov 95 04:55:00 UTC 0000
Subject: Circular Embroidery

 I recently took a class at the Bernina dealer and the teacher showed us how
to do circles. She put a tack (upside down) through a piece of tape and
taped it to the machine the radius distance from the needle. Then you put on
your embroidery foot, push your fabric down on the tack, lower the presser
foot and start sewing. It sews in a perfect circle.
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:58:12 GMT
Subject: Re: 1130 Ruffler on the 1630?

Question 1st--- are you using a Bernina ruffler from an earlier series or a 
standard one adapted only via the short shank adapter?  Bernina makes a new 
ruffler with wider spacing that makes it work with the 1630.  The dealership 
where I work takes trades of old rufflers against the purchase of a new one.  
They are pricey, but they do work.
If you are using a standard one, they sometimes work and most of the time don't. 
 I am assuming that you have the 
dial, projector and stitch length settings set correctly.
Good luck.
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 13:01:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Circular Embroidery

The circular attachment is sometimes a little tough to seat but it should fit.  
 I would ask my dealer to exchange or correct it simply so that should a prong 
break it wouldn't be your error.  I love using mine.  Good luck and enjoy
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 13:06:47 GMT
Subject: Re: Quilintg with Metallic

Sliver can be a bit of a devil! The best needle would be one for the metallic 
threads. Schmetz and Sullivans make one.  A Schmetz 90 N works well also or the 
needle which is marked 90 H-E.   Are you using any special horizontal or stand 
type feeding system?  If using the spool pins, are you using the handle clip?  
Good luck and enjoy!
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 13:13:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Sergers

Advice, simply because the machine is going to another country---find out if 
someone local can service either of the machines.  They do require special 
knowledge.  Both are excellent machine.  I use both and find the Eclipse a 
little easier to deal with and it accompanying video is great.
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 13:27:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Price of 1630

The price of a machine is only good if it include good dealer support.  The 
knowledge, service and additional support is invaluable!!!  When you are 
purchasing something as advanced as a 1630 you want to get all you can from it 
as easily as you can.  Good luck and enjoy!
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 08:27:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Price of 1630

I got a price of $2400 with trade in of my 830.  Haven't done anything yet,
as by dear hubby bought a pick-up truck the same weekend I was negotiating
the machine.

Peggy Q
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:59:39 -0600
Subject: FYI Prices

I just got a "Christmas Wishes" coupon mailing from the local Amarillo dealer.
Bernina 1000 $799, 2000DCE $1599, 1630 $2899
Bernette 007-D $849, 134 $379, 705 $249, Deco 500 $1699
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 09:11:09 EST
Subject: Re: Polar Fleece


The information helped greatly!!! I have
a lot of stretch and sew patterns that read like 
they will fit the bill perfectly.  

You mention a two  sided polar fleece?. 
I think this is what I have been purchasing
-- even though I have never 
referred to it as 'two sided'.  Is there a special
polar fleece that I should be shopping for?

Thank-you again.

Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:17:28 -0800
Subject: Mettalic/Clear Table

Sue -Have you tried threading your stitch finger.  What kind of thread do
you have in the bobbin.  I find that I get best results with Metroscene silk
finished cotton or Metroscene cotton machine embroidery thread.  Also play
with  your  top tensions.  Sometimes 4 sometimes 6 depending on top thread.
The best piece of advice for sewing with metallic is to slow down.  It
really doesn't like to be sewn peddle to the metal typical
Bernina warp speed sewing.  There is also a metallic needle as well but  I
usual get decent results with 80/12 or 70/10 needle.  If your brave you can
turn the screw on the bobbin case a fraction in either direction but have
been warned at Bernina Dealer Machine training that if you get that baby too
loose it will fly out and you will never see it again.  Harriet Hargrave
recommends that if you play with it put it and your hand inside a plastic
bag while you are loosening it.  Some people buy the black latch bobbin case
so they have one they can play with and then the original stays as is and
only the mechanics adjust it. I have bad luck with both my 1230 and my 1630
when I try to stipple using monofilament  with polyblend thread in the
bobbin so could be same with metallic. Just machine quilted an entire quilt
using the cotton machine embroidery thread in the needle and silk finish
cotton in the bobbin and liked the effect of the slightly finer thread on
the top. 

Sue H. - If you can't find one of the Acrylic Table tops in your local area
(try your Bernina Dealer) the Sewing Gallery in Augusta, Ga has them.  There
Email address is but they may not look at the computer for
several days as this is a busy time of year so you can also call
(706)855-6479.  They are a Bernina Dealer and fabulous quilt/heirloom sewing
shop and do a lot of mail order.  I know that they have the table tops.  

Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 10:25:22 EST
Subject: feet resources

hello, I am new to the group and have a small wearable art business. 
I have found some fabulous resources for feet for my bernina which I 
use with my adapter. They sell for under $5.00 so I have been able to 
try lots with great results. In the March 95 Threads issue under the 
supplies section there is a long list of incredible catalogs which 
are free for the most part. Sunbrand 18002416800 is one of my 
favorite. just make sure you are ordering short shanks then get an $8.
00 adaptor and go to town.  Cutters is also a good one 18002512142 is 
also great. I am tired of paying for Expensive Bernina attachments, 
most of which they don't manufacture anyway.  I think I paid $8.00 
for my ruffler.  Good luck Roxy 
Date: Mon,  6 Nov 95 16:27:00 UTC 0000
Subject: Re: Sewing Club Name??


Its funny you should talk about quilting guilds or sewing guilds in that
respect, are you in the washington area by chance.......anyhow, I live in an
area where there are quite a few guilds, and if you are talking about a
guild, you need to mention the name, simply because, we have belle grove
quilters guild, skyline quilters guild, shenandoah valley quilters guild,
and then there are the ones in West Va.......hehehe sometimes its hard to
keep track of all the goings on.

Date: Mon,  6 Nov 95 16:28:00 UTC 0000
Subject: Does anyone know?

Hi all,

Does anyone know if there is a digest just for seamstresses, I'm not talking
about wearable arts here, just one for regular sewers.......and not quilters
either......hehehe    and just curious.

Date: Mon,  6 Nov 95 16:29:00 UTC 0000
Subject: Replies


Me to, I have the same problem, do you remember the subject, don't know why
I would ask you which machine you have.......

Selling techniques, whele, someone yesterday, gave us a very nice
descriptive way to go about it, and I basically follow the same rules, but
the other thing I do is invite people into my home from a list of people who
sign my booth book and then have basically an open house, complete with the
christmas deco, and warmth that xmas provides, I do this the second weekend
in december, as my shows are usually over with by then, and then people have
the comfort of buying in their own atmosphere, I do real well with this
idea, the only thing I have had to add was insurance for this one party per
year......but it is just added to my renters insurance agreement......

I believe that its important to talk with people, invite them into your
booth, show items that look good and have ways to do that with......I always
do a little door prize type thing that way people sign up and also get
invited to the open house.

I always have items that sell for under $5.00 and alot of items under $3.00
as well, just came up with a new ornament idea that I got off of Compuserve,
and so I am going to try making a few of those as well.....should be fun and

Take care,

Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:15:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 1080 Machine noises (long)

On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Silvia L wrote:

> question.  My 1080 is a year old and developed a knock last week.  The
> Bernina dealer couldn't find a problem, he thought the needle may have been
> in a little crooked.  The machine sews as great as ever but that slight
> knock is still there.  When I use the longest stictch it becomes more
> pronounced.  The dealer didn't seem to think this is a big deal since the
> machine works fine.  Do machines start getting different noises with age? 
> Has anyone else had a similar problem?  Or am I just going crazy? 

  Hi, Silvia!  Well, to take your questions in reverse order - you have 
to be sane - you own a Bernina.

  I once had a similar problem with my dear old 801 - klunky noises of any
kind are NOT "something you learn to live with", or "inevitable problems
of aging", or similar kinds of off-putting.  For all intents and purposes,
any machine -but particularly a steel-framed Bernina sewing machine- that
is kept oiled, repaired, balanced, and used appropriately will *work
*forever; machines, however reliable and lovable, *aren't organic beings -
they're *machines*.  That means that they don't age, they wear.  So you
keep replacing worn parts until the specs are back to the orginals and the
'knock' noises go away.  A well-designed machine will go on forever, as
long as it has oil, electricity &TLC. 

  Besides, if that "slight knock" is still there after the slightly-
crooked-needle is replaced by a perfectly-straight-needle, then that's not
the problem. 

  If your Bernina dealer thinks an undiagnosed knock in a machine is no
big deal, maybe your Bernina *dealer needs a little work?  Your machine is
still under warranty, I'm sure. (Either 15 or 20 years - my warranty is
for 20 years.) If you can't talk to the dealer and get satisfaction,
perhaps you need to communicate with Bernina USA directly: a year-old
machine suddenly developing a non-specification sound should be fixed or
replaced, period - Bernina Corporation really does build machines that
last a lot longer than the warranty period.  In the meantime IMHO you're
being put off - how about requesting a loaner until your Bernina is fixed. 
If the problem persists, you should have a new machine.  I kind of doubt
that the dealer will give you another Bernina if that one suddenly dies
from following his/her advice to keep on using a machine that's not
working don't follow it.  Problems with correct functioning of
a machine are not a matter of changing *your *attitude, they're a matter
of changing the machine. 

  Have you tried sitting down, threading the machine, and beginning to sew
while the repair person is there?  If they can see what you do and how you
do it, that might solve the problem right there, especially if it's
something odd that only another person could see. 

who apologizes for the length of this article - I don't have time to trim 
it down!
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:38:02 -0600
Subject: Re: Sewing on Terry Cloth

The instructor at one of my orientation classes showed us how she made her
seams on terry cloth.  She overlapped the seams (right side against wrong
side), then using a zig zag stich sewed down one side of the seam allowance
turned it over and stitched the other side of the seam allowance.  You
could hardly tell where the seams was and it was flat.

Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 12:55:04 EST
Subject: feet-correction of previous note

Sorry, as soon as I sent my last note I realized that the 2 resources 
I mentioned were feet for my bernina industrial 217n.  However in 
Sunbrand (resale # not needed) I was able to order 100 Schmetz 
needles for 15.00, rulers, bobbins etc. but the feet are all high 
shank- sorry. Minimum order is 25.00. For low shank singer feet (all 
of which need an adaptor for Bernina) you can only order these if you 
have a resale # , 15.00 minimum, pay in advance, from Edison 1800-
8777391. They have every type of foot available from walking to 
blindhem, hemmers etc.  Please give me feedback if these resources 
are helpful. As I mentioned sometimes you need resale# sometimes not. 
For those of you with resale # I have many more resources but am not 
sure if this is the forum in which to share them??????????? sorry for 
the confusion...Roxy
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 16:02:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Price of 1630

That's a good price.  I paid the same for mine.  Check to see if it has the
most recent board in it.

Happy sewing.
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:21:36 -0800
Subject: Re: Egg Iron

An egg iron or "puffing iron" is a small iron that is egg shaped, about the
size of a fist. It is ussed for ironing puffing and other special garment
features such as puffed sleeves, caps, etc. because it can get into small
areas, and it is rounded so that the "puffed" features can be fluffed out
rather than pressed in. Hope that remotely makes some sense.  The cost
around $50 and usually has to be special ordered. I never heard of one
before I took an Heirloom Sewing course, and now I cant do without it.

Erin M
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 17:25:46 -0500
Subject: Re: American Girls Doll Clothes

>latest catalogs do not include the patterns for the doll clothes.  I

Terri: The catalog I got about a month ago does have the patterns in
is in a special section called Stocking Stuffers which is in the center with
the order form. The order numbers are:
Felicity, PPE
Kirsten, PPK
Addy, PPA
Samantha, PPS
Molly, PPM

They are $18 each.

Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 20:13 EST
Subject: Re: Quilintg with Metallic

Hi SKAYB:  In regards to quilting with Metallic thread, I have found that using
Schmetz STRETCH needles (130/705H-S), generally size 75/11 to work very well. 
The walking foot is also useful for quilting in general.  Good luck.  Judy
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 20:13 EST
Subject: Re: Designer Software

Hi Pat!

Thanks for your information on the Designer Software and the scanner that you
are using.  I am looking forward to adding that capibility to my Bernina.  I
also wish that Bernina included more info on all of their products.  What is
given is easy to follow, but I feel that I have not even begun to use all it's
capabilities .  I do have several designs that I am anxious to try.  Thanks
again,  Judy.
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 19:37:32 -0700
Subject: Bernina Digest 11/1/95

Dear Carol, 

Your'e coming to Denver this next weekend is terrific:> There's all
kinds of craft fairs and a quilt museum in Golden. A fantastic Bernina
Dealership in Englewood. Lots of fun stuff and things to do!
E-mail me if you need any addresses or phone #'s.

Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 22:15:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Pinetree

For those of us who are unintiated, could you post a phone number to obtain a
catalog for PINE TREE? Thanx.
Subject: Bernina owner wannabe :)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 22:40:04 +0000

Hi folks, 
  I am a new subscriber to the digest and I have a few questions. I test
drove a 1090s and 1080. I liked them both. I feel they will probaly be my
choice of machine in the future. I am a little puzzle by some of the sales
people. I talked to a dealer who had a used 1530 for sale and she proceded
to give me story after story how the bernina wouldn't hold up. She said they
are constantly needing repair and then directed me to a New Home 8000, or
9000. Now I am not stupid I know what she was basicly doing. I like the New
Homes but something just didn't click. What I was wondering is how reliable
has you machines been. Do you have computer related problems with them? How
has the service of your dealer been. (My local dealer is Meisner's in
Sacramento and I really like them but it was hard to get through the sales
pitch to get a feel for the machine. I went back later and used my own
materials and found the 1080 a wonderful machine) What is your opinions
about used machines ( ones sold because of trading up) What is a good price
for a used 1080?  Please feel free to write me personally if you feel it's
not appropriate for the list. 

Charlene, keeper of the home!
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 95 23:50:35 -800
Subject: feet numbers

Just found this page! For years (many, many) I hauled an old Sear's 
machine all over the world (Army Wife) with which to make curtains.  
When my husband retired, he bought me a Bernina 930...(then new).  
I love it and whereas I don't sew terribly well, I  thoroughly appreciate 
the workings of a wonderful machine. My trouble seems to be with the feet 
numbers. They changed the entire numbersystem shortly after I bought my 930.  
Is there a list of the old feet and how they corrospond with the new numbers? 
When I look for a new foot, I am never sure if I have one only it is numbered
 differently. I need a listing of feet with  both the old and new numbers.  
 I would like to be on your mailing list...thanx...
Marilyn S
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 08:43:17 CST
Subject: RE: American Girl Doll Patterns

Someone mentioned the American Girl doll Patterns.  We just received a holiday
issue of the catalog yesterday and the patterns are still available.  They are
pictured in an insert along with several other "gift" ideas.  There is also a 
new Doll - the American Girl of Today.  You choose her eye, skin, and hair coloryourself.  The doll also has miniature versions of the other 5 historical dolls as accessory items along with other stuff, too.  Back to the patterns, they are
expensive, but if you like sewing, they can really cut the cost of the outfits 
for the dolls.  I have used the patterns as a guide for creating other outfits
for the doll, too.  
Hope this helps!!

Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 09:36:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: -whisper- 'She starches her fabric' ;^)

Sharon, thank you for a really clear description of using starch to
stabilize fabrics, I've sent it to a permanent file, printed it out to
take home, and I can't WAIT to try it!  One question, tho, have you had
any problems with residue from the starch inside the machine, like needing
special cleaning or repair, etc.? I worry about putting anything inside my
'nina that might literally gum it up.  I LOVE the idea of being able to
sew on a completely stable fabric surface and do all those neat effects
that call for perfect edges!  

Elaine J
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 08:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Pinetree

Would you post the PINE TREE's phone number or address?   Thanks
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:00:38 -0500
Subject: Roller Foot #66

I bought the #66 hem roller foot during my Bernina Dealer's 20% off sale,
right after I saw Kenneth King use it on one of the sewing shows. I was about
to make a night shirt for a friend and thought that the foot would be
perfect. I am happy to say that it was great! I Think that it helped that I
saw King use and explain it beforehand (I think he is very good at teaching).

Date: 07 Nov 95 12:50:18 EST
Subject: Circular Embroidery for 1630

I just bought the circular embroidery attachment for the 1630 (my old one for
the 1530 would not fit), and it fits beautifully.  I tried the yoyos described
in the last issue of Bernina Library, and they come out beautifully.  I really
like this attachment, and it should fit you machine with no trouble.  Why not
exchange it for a new one.  Make sure it is for the 1630.  Pat
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:55:31 -0600
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know?

There is another list, sew-l which seems to cover just about everything.


I'm not sure if a subscription request would be sent ot sew-l-owner,
or owner-sew-l!
Or send a message to, requesting subscription.

Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:50:18 -0500
Subject: Re:  Re" Price of a 1630


I would *not* recommend trading in your 830.  Hold onto it.  It is a classic.
Bargain some other way, if at all possible.  Of course, this is just my
opinion, but if there is any way, keep the 830 and buy the 1630 outright.

Ida T
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 95 12:35:11 MST
Subject: Re: Sarita, The American Girl Collection

Can you provide a mailing address for these dolls - I'm from Canada and
usually the 1-800 numbers don't apply to us.  They sound wonderful - Thanks
in advance
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:50:51 MST
Subject: Re: American Girl Dolls

I'd really like a mail address for the Pleasant Company - Not sure the 1-800
would work in Canada.  Dolls sound great.
If this is a double request, please ignore.  THANKS!
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 15:05:00 -0800
Subject: Re: California Dealer

Thank you to everyone recommending Calif Bay Area dealers.  I have had some
experience with the dealers here before and I have yet to find one that I
did not like, but it is good to know specific dealers and other people's
experiences.  I can only believe that the "dealer" in PA was an isolated
incident.  Anyone else on this list who is in Central PA, beware of your
dealer. I had nothing but trouble with the one I dealt with in State
College.  I have enought faith in Bernina products to know that she does
not represent Bernina quality as a whole.

Subject: Re: PineTree
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 95 14:46:16 PST

Pine Tree Quilt works is
Jean P
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:57:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Polar Fleece

>You mention a two  sided polar fleece?. 

Lorna: Not special, but I found that some 'polar fleece' has the fuzzies on
one side only...make sure when you pick it up, it has it on both sides. I
think the one-sided would be good for an indoor top, but my kids like the
feel of having the inside fluffy, do I! I made ANOTHER robe this
weekend...for me! I lived in it the rest of the weekend, of course,
specially since the weather is turned....s'posed to do the 'white' thing
tomorrow, doncha know    :(

Date: Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:07 EST
Subject: Designer Software

Hi Pat,

What version of the Designer software are you using?  Have you heard about a
new version that Bernina is working on?  If so, do you have any idea when it
will be released?


Date: Tue, 7 Nov 95 19:57:56 -0500
Subject: Re: PineTree

>For those of us who are unintiated, could you post a phone number to obtain a
>catalog for PINE TREE? Thanx.

PineTree also has their catalogue online so you can shop on the web:

Sue T
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 16:51:56 EST
Subject: 1630 Feet

Do any of you know what feet have come out specifically for the 1630 
other than those that come with the machine?  

I know of the following:

12 - Bulky Overlock
41 - Rotary
10 - Edgestitch (when would I use this instead of #10?)
?   - Circular Embroidery Attachment

2nd question -- Does anyone use the #11 Cordonnet Foot?  

Sandy - Making my Christmas List
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:36:01 MDT
Subject: Re: FYI Prices  (a novella)

My Dealer in Salt Lake City has the sale price for the 1630 listed at  
$3099.00  That price she has told me is only good when Bernina  
authorizes a sale.  From what I am reading, this is not quite true.   
Sounds like you guys do a lot of haggling for a good price on the  
machine.  Trouble is here in Salt Lake the three Bernina stores are all  
owned by the same guy, Mr. Nuttall. Supposedly he is the N0.1 Bernina  
seller in the US.  I think thats for dollar value, not necessarily  
service.  I have found a great deal of difference in attitudes at the  
different stores.  The downtown store treated me like I didn't really  
matter.  I remember going in there about a year ago looking at rotary  
mats and the woman gave me the price and ignored me.  I went to the big  
department store in town, ZCMI told the saleslady there what just  
happened and she sold me the mat and gave me a rotary cutter!  I was in  
the Sandy Store recently and the woman there was closing early for  
Halloween but she took the time to tell me about the $10 per month  
Bernina newsletter that I could subscribe to or just stop by the store  
anytime and browse through the one she had there, so I didn't have to  
spend the dough!  I really felt comfortable there.  I just wish that  
store was closer to me.  The third store is the one I deal with and I  
feel that their service is just adequate.  That is where I got my "just  
used for 3 days at a sewing conference" model with the serial # that  
ranks it as one of the first 1630s ever made.  I am still waiting for  
my brand-new, just off the assembly line machine, because I am just not  
comfortable with the age of this machine.  I heard way too many things  
about those first machines.  The price I got for the demo was $2649.00.   
The price she is giving me for the new one is $2999.00.  Now, I'm  
printing Carol Coleman's letter to bring to the shop to show her that  
she can do a bit better on the price!  Thanks guys.  

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:14:11 +0800
Subject: Re: Egg Iron

>An egg iron or "puffing iron" is a small iron that is egg shaped, about the
>size of a fist. It is ussed for ironing puffing and other special garment
>features such as puffed sleeves, caps, etc. because it can get into small
>areas, and it is rounded so that the "puffed" features can be fluffed out
>rather than pressed in. Hope that remotely makes some sense.  The cost
>around $50 and usually has to be special ordered. I never heard of one
>before I took an Heirloom Sewing course, and now I cant do without it.

But there's a cheaper option! A low wattage light bulb will do the trick.

I've enjoyed reading this list - I bought an old 730 last year, because I
couldn't use my computerised Singer to do free motion embroidery.
I paid $100 for the machine, and then went and spend another 100 on
feet!  I heard recently that the 830 was the best machine for embroidery.
Is is worth me upgrading(!), or is the 730 just as good?

Subject: 1630 Software update
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:43:47 +0800 (WST)

Hi All,

Just talked to my Bernina dealer today.  There is a new version of the software
coming out early in the new year (at least here in Perth, W.Australia).  It is
supposed to be much easier to use in that it automatically sets the stitches
for you.  I find the software easy to use but sometimes really need to think
hard about the way the machine sews best.  For example, I need to embroider
cats noses an mouths a zillion times. I drew the picture in Paint like this:

    \    /
     \  /
|     | |    |
 |   |   |  |
  | |     |

But then found that it sewed better if I rotated it 90degrees. I also got
better results by dividing the projects into smaller parts and then combining
them upon sewing.  I used the long stitiches to do this.

My dealer is also the importer for WA and is terrific.  They let me sit down
and play with the software on their hook up before I bought.  I found it easy
to understand and use.  The things I find annoying are 1) having to do infill
stitches point by point and 2)not being able to cahnge the directories for data
files easily.

Hope this helps in your decision.

Kay L
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 09:04:41 CST
Subject: Re: American Girl Dolls


The address for the dolls is:  Pleasant Company
                               P.O. Box 620190
                               Middleton, WI 53562-0190

Hope this will help!!

To Charlene,
Bernina's are great.  I've got an 1130, which is not made anymore, and the
closest model would be a 1260,  I've not had any computer problems with it, and
when it's been in for servicing, my dealer has replaced some of the boards when
they had an upgrade(no extra charge).  I think the trick is to have a good
dealer who loves 'ninas as much as you.  She will help you keep your machine
in tip-top order and will let you know if you aren't keeping up your end (in 
keeping it clean, etc).  Find a good Bernina dealer, he/she will give classes,
too, and help you learn how to get the most from your machine!!

Well, all of the above is MHO.  Good luck!!

Date: 08 Nov 95 10:05:36 EST
Subject: Pine Tree Quilt Works

Pine Tree Quilt Works can also be reached at:  Ask
Shirley or Addy to send a catalog!

Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 09:59:08 -0600
Subject: Polar Fleece Robe

I have been lurking for awhile and really find this an informative forum.
Has anyone come up with the pattern for the polar fleece robe?  Sounds like
good Christmas gifts. I am in the process of moving and need something quick
to make.
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:12:18 -0500
Subject: PineTree

Over the past few days I've seen a couple of requests for PineTree's
address/phone number, so I thought I'd speak up.

PineTree QUiltworks Discount QUilting Supplies ..
Phone:  207 799-7357
FAX:  207 799-3525
Mailing address:  PO Box 216, Cape Cottage Branch, Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107
E-Mail: (preferred address) or or
Compuserve 74534,1613

A free catalog is available for the asking.  Just E-mail your
name/address/city/state/zip to ...

Hope this helps.

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:24:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Owner Wannabe : )

I have a Bernina 1080 (since June!)  I love the machine very much, it too
was my first Bernina, I have always wanted one as both my sisters have
Bernina's as well as my mother, but like them I worked up to one, I
started with a Sears Kenmore, then went onto a Singer etc.  This is my
4th or 5th machine, I will most likely have it for many years as the
1080 does what I need and want from a machine, I have not really used a lot of
the decorative stiches but now that winter (yuck) is here I sew alot
more than in the summer so I plan to try some ofthem out
I am planning to make most of my Xmas gifts this
year.  But I think you really need to go with what you think you need for a
machine depending on what you use it for, but whatever, I think you
will enjoy your Bernina (which ever one you decide to get).

I bought my on layway at first but then decided to finance the balance
as I couldn't wait for 6 months to get it, and I figured that over
the years I will have this machine that it would more than pay for itself.
I have never been so happy and in lover with a sewing machine.
 (Only sewers understand that- I would never admit that to a non-sewer!)

Anyway let us know which machine you decide on, and then enjoy it!

Happy Sewing!

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:36:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Owner Wannabe : )

Sorry I forgot to tell you this

I paid $1000 for my 1080 with a trade in which amounted to $250.  The
machine was prices at $1500 but that was what my dealer came up
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:48:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 11/7/95

To Charlene, keeper of the home!
I bought my 1530 August 94 and have used it almost everyday in spite of the
fact that I work full-time.  I took it in for yearly check-up and the tech at
my dealer who is wonderful said I take excellent care of my machine.  There
were no suggestions of what else I should be doing or not doing to better
care for this wonderful piece of equipment.  I happen to be trained to clean
the bobbin and top tension discs with every bobbin refill.  Then I drop oil
about every other bobbin.  This works well for me as a reminder.  I probably
do not change needles as often as I should, but when I have the slightest
problem I get a new needle and that solves it.  The few difficulties I have
encountered have always turned out to be MY error (not threading the machine
correctly, etc.)  You will not go wrong with a BERNIE.  A woman from my
dealer had her 1630 zapped by electicity in a storm and the machine innerds
were totally replaced free of charge by Bernina.  I am not a dealer, but I am
a REALLY satisfied customer.  I am a hard sell.  I am so impressed with my
machine I am currently in the market for a 801 sport (its lighter weight) to
take to workshops etc.
Good Luck and Happy Sewing.

HI Elaine,  
I'm glad you wrote about my instructions.  I am a behaviorist and have been
trained to be explicit and succinct.  Its nice to hear I haven't lost the
touch!  I have no problem with the flakes of starch in my Bernina.  I clean
the bobbin case area completely everytime I emply a bobbin (and the tension
discs).  I seem to have more fluff when I use poly thread than I ever do for
the starch.  My tech said she had no suggestions for me after my annual
cleaning and check up.  Not even one burr on my machine.  Debra Wagner has a
Bernina too, so I guess if you clean it, you can't hurt it.  I have a small
computer vacuum I got from one of those junk catalogs, but I first 'dust' the
machine with a blush brush (I always have several of those from the
promotions at the make-up counters over the years.)  Then I vacuum the brush.
 I find the vacumn is not enough suction to clean the back parts well.  I
drop oil on the appropriate bobbin case point about every two empty bobbins.
Keyword seems to be Keep it Clean. 8-)

To Esther:  I will get the Pine Tree # at home tonight and post. 

To Sylvia:  Who is Kenneth King and what show is he on?  I have lost almost
all the quilt/sewing shows on my PBS satelite and I hate it.  The only thing
left is Sewing with Nancy which is great but not enough. 
We used to live in Gainesville, Delray Beach, and Rockledge FLA.
Subject: how much ease???
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:23:38 PST

Hi everyone;

I am in the process of making Carol Doak's "Easy Machine Vests" and
what fun.  Once you start you don't want to stop.  I have sewn for 
years and love it but have never known much about fitting and 
measuring patterns.  Since I have gained weight and lost track of
what size I really am I have avoided sewing for myself and miss
doing so.

My question is that I have forgotten how much "ease" should be
added to a pattern?  If you measure an exact bust measurement for
example on a pattern how many inches are added for ease?  I 
thought I remembered 4", but it was way too much, ;-(, so threw
that traced pattern away and am starting over.  Can anyone tell me?

The one in progress is for my daughter and she doesn't care how it
fits, just so the pattern does not say it's over size 14, heheheh!  
You know the feeling?

Thanks for any advise as this is far too basic and stupid a question
for the wearableart list, they'd throw me off, :0}.
Jean P
Subject: Re: Pine Tree
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:28:12 PST

> Would you post the PINE TREE's phone number or address?   Thanks
PineTree Quiltworks
585 Broadway
South Portland, Maine  04106
Phone  (207) 799-7357
Fax      "    "  3525
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 19:42:04 -0500
Subject: Re: American Girl Dolls

At 05:53 PM 11/8/95 -0500, you wrote:
>I'd really like a mail address for the Pleasant Company - Not sure the 1-800
>would work in Canada.

The dolls are great my daughter has all of them.  The mailing address is

Pleasant Company, 8400 Fairway Place/ P.O. Box 620190, Middleon  WI  53562-0190
but I called and asked them and the 800-845-0005 is good in Canada.  The
other # is 1-608-831-5210  hours are 6 am - midnight Centeral Time.Hope this
helps. - Tracey
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 01:10:43 -0500
Subject: New quilt/bernina shop

I just want to let everyone know there is a new quilt shop in Riverside, Ca,
called the Quilt Shop. 

She (Rosalie) just opened and I went in today and talked quite awhile with
her. She is going to be selling Berninas too. She has some great ideas,
basically going to be a shop where you can take lessons and be with other
quilters, not so much the selling of merchandise.

She also has a quilting machine and is very reasonable. I saw it! I want one

I really like this lady. I will be taking a class next week. 

Anyone wanting any info e-mail me.

I am in heaven!

Subject: Re: American Girl Dolls

>I'd really like a mail address for the Pleasant Company - Not sure the 1-800
>would work in Canada.  Dolls sound great.
The mail address is:  Pleasant Company
                               P.O. box 620190
                               Middleton, WI  53562-0190

Hope this helps.

Kay D
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 08:36:02 -0500
Subject: Bernina reliability

My Bernina 1530 which I have had for a year and which has been 
used A LOT is still perking along just fine without any 
adjustments. My 830 which I have had since it was new has NEVER 
needed servicing, probably because I have always oiled and 
cleaned it a lot. A friend bought (on my recommendation) an 830 
from a dealer about 5 years ago which had been traded in. The 
dealer services all of these trade-ins before reselling them, 
and my friend has never had a problem with the 830, nor has she 
had it in for service. Does any of the above tell you anything 
about Bernina reliability? I think it is unfortunate that a New 
Home dealer is bad-mouthing Berninas. Is that the only way she 
can sell machines? The New Home 9000 is a great looking 
machine, but it doesn't mean Berninas are unreliable. 

Mary M
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:19 CST
Subject: Machine sashiko and slashed jacket

     Two projects that I am soon to attempt that have been on my 
     mind for some time and I would like any help/tips any of you 
     can offer:
     1.  Machine sashiko vest - what size needles, settings, 
     thread.  I have a Bernina 1090 and a Pfaff 1475.
     2.  Slash Jacket - Anyone tried this - is there a pattern 
     Any help you can give will be much appreciated.  Thanks.
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 08:32:14 -0600
Subject: Re: Egg Iron

I use light bulbs for ironing in hotel rooms when I travel, but my puff iron
at home will press seams open, and anything a dry iron will do. In fact I
sometimes use a water spray bottle and then it is a steam iron.  I cannot
recommend an exposed  light bulb near a work area. It would be very
dangerous if you bumped the blub and it broke.
Date: 09 Nov 95 09:55:52 EST
Subject: Bernina Digest 11/8/95

Thanks to Kay Lee for her comments on the Bernina software.  I had heard that
Bernina had a Version 2 of the software, but not how it differed.  I called my
dealer yesterday to inquire about it and was told that Version 2 was not
accepted for US sales, but will a different version will come out in 1996.  I
don't understand this, as a fellow stitcher in England told me she was buying a
1630 with Version 2 installed.  I don't know why it would be released in
different countries, and not accepted by the US, but that is what my dealer was
told when he called Bernina here in the US.  Pat
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 10:05:37 EST
Subject: Re: feet numbers

Hi Marilyn,

You can probably get a list of feet with both the old and new new numbers 
from any good Bernina dealer.  Mary Lou Nall's book "Heirloom Sewing With
Bernina has such a listing of feet with both old and new on page three.  If
you can't find this information from your dealer, send me your snail mail
address and I will send you a copy of the list that has the numbers.

Kay D
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 10:13:03 -0500
Subject:  1090 in Binghamton area?

My brother is looking to buy SIL a Bernina for Christmas.  She is leaning
toward a 1090.  They live in Binghamton, NY.  Does anyone have
suggestions re: a good dealer in that area?  Also, they are willing to
check out the possibility of a used machine. If anyone has a lead on a
used (but well cared for) 1090 for sale, please email me directly.  Thanks
to all.  I'm really excited about the possibility of another Bernina in the

Margaret H
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:22:30 -0500 (EST)

I have been the proud owner of an 830 for 20 years, and still love it.  I 
have been told it was the last "almost commercial for home sewers" 
Bernina made.  I once documented all the things I have made on this 
machine, and written down, looks pretty impressive: sleeping bag, down 
jackets, cordura luggage, lots of applique, including a many layered, 
stiffened one, satin dresses, velvets, silks... I've been looking at the 
computerized ones, but would only consider one as an add-on to my 830.  
My old Bernina dealer used to act like I had an inferior machine whenever 
I took a class, but 830 owners know better.  I think Bernina really 
goofed when they renumbered the feet.  It just struck me as a marketing 
ploy designed to sell the computerized, very pricey ones. I've never seen 
a 730, but if I were you, I'd test drive an 830 to see if it is any better
doing what you want it to. 

Happy sewing...I've been too busy to touch mine for eons, and plan to 
schedule some therapeutic sewing in this weekend.

Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 09:25:45 -0700
Subject: Re: Bernina Owner Wannabe : )

>Hi folks, 
>  I am a new subscriber to the digest and I have a few questions. I test
>drove a 1090s and 1080. I liked them both. 


I had a Bernina 730 for 25 years - never an ounce of trouble.  My daughter
now has it - still works perfectly.  I bought a Bernina 1130 in 1987 when
the computerized machine were very new.  Also have had not one bit of
trouble with it.

I belong to a sewing club where we have Bernina 1020's and 1090's.  We have
about 300 members and 16 machines that are busy every day by women with all
sewing abilities and all our machines are holding up just fine.  ( We had
Singer's before and it seemed like half of them were in the shop being fixed
all the time.)  I teach applique classes and a good share of my students are
unhappy with the satin stitch their machines at home do.

I guess I'm prejudiced but I am very much a bernina lover.  Don't know
anything about the new 1600 series however.

Subject: American Girl Dolls
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 11:15:25 EST

In the latest issue of Keepsake quilting's newsletter, received
yesterday, the classified had the following ad:
	American Girl doll clothers and accessories.
	Smocked and heirloom dreses, hats, shoes and more
	$1 for brochure to Maywood, Inc. 10 Willing Way, 
	Wilmington, DE  19807

No affiliation, just passing along info from a current topic

BTW, just used the metafil needle with sulky metallic thread that a few
drops of sewers aid was applied to and everything worked
beatufifully!!!!  the first time I have used metallic thread without the
use of "not so nice" words....try it!

Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:11:31 -0600
Subject: Cleaning Tension Discs

  While I clean the bobbin regularly, I'm not at all familiar with cleaning
the tension discs....any help?
Jane M
Date: 09 Nov 95 12:14:05 EST
Subject: 1080/1090 Fantasy Stitches - Judy

Hi Folks!  First, thanks so much for the advice on the terry cloth!  I think
I'll try several different methods in different places on the robe to get
practice.  Next, I was reading the archives from September 29, and Judy
mentioned that she had put together about 4 pages of fantasy stitches and motifs
for the 1080/1090 machines.  I would definitely like a copy of this, but her
email address was stripped off.  So if you're out there Judy, please email me or
post again.  Thanks!

Subject: dealers
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:49:21 EST

Someone posed the question, what makes for a good dealer?  Last 
Christmas, what I really wanted was a handful of bobbins for my Bernina 
1000.  Because they are not commonly available at JoAnnes or House of 
Fabrics, my husband had to go to the local Bernina/quilting/bridal fabric 
store to get them.  The owner/manager completely ignored him!  Granted, 
he was only making a small purchase but he could have been looking to buy 
me a 1530 for Christmas (I wish!).  I will eventually upgrade machines 
when I get out of school and you can be assured that I will drive a 
little further, to another dealer.

Monica P
Date: 09 Nov 95 14:00:18 EST
Subject: Bernina Digest 11/8/95

Re: Pine Tree Quilt Works catalog 

Hi, everyone.  This ismy first message. Up till now I have just been reading but
I did want to get a copy of the catalog for Pine Tree Quilt Works.  I copied
down Lawrence's E Mail address but I couldn't get through.  Maybe I put in too
many spaces or something.  So, I tried sending Mr. Lawerence a note.  I couldn't
get through to him either.  Now, can anyone help me find out how I can get
through?  I do not want to resort to using the snail mail since I know have a
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:06:12 -0500
Subject: Re: How much ease?

In reply to Jean P, usually 2 inches of ease around the bust is enough for
a vest.  Try that  and let us know how it turns out ! :)

Jody H
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:43 MST
Subject: Re: Polar Fleece Robe
>I have been lurking for awhile and really find this an informative forum.
>Has anyone come up with the pattern for the polar fleece robe?  Sounds like
>good Christmas gifts. I am in the process of moving and need something quick
>to make.

I bought a Stretch and Sew pattern several years (8?) ago, and every girl
and woman in my family has a velour or polor fleece gown from it---and every
one just loves it.
It's number 5275--called SNUGGLER--a loose-fitting pullover with a ribbed
cowl neckline and ribbing that finishes the long raglan sleeves. Very simple
and fast to make,but I have no access to S &S patterns anymore, so don't
know if that pattern is still available.
Date: 09 Nov 95 14:24:29 EST
Subject: Rufflers

I am de-lurking to ask a question about the brand new ruffler I got for my 1230.
Tried it out using the instructions in the Bernina handbook I bought a long time
ago.  Gathering worked fine, and pleating worked as expected until I put it on
the "12" setting to pleat every 12 stitches.  Instead of even pleats, I get 2
pleats and then a space and then another 2 pleats, etc.  Is this normal, am I
doing something wrong, or is there something wrong with the ruffler?  On the
first pleat, the machine just seems to sew in place for a few stitches before
moving the fabric; on the second pleat, the fabric moves forward with each

Am looking forward to making dust ruffles &ruffled comforter covers with this
gadjet.  Have also been told to try it on flat laces &ribbons for trims.
Anyone have any other neat uses for a ruffler?  Would I ever be better off using
a gathering foot for some application?  I think I am going to *love* this little
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:36:05 -0500
Subject: Re: price / CA Dealers

This is my first post to this group, and I love all the info I have gotten in
the last month!

I bought my 1630 last year in Vallejo, California at Vallejo Sewing and
Vacuum for $2500 tax included, and that was *without* a trade-in. The owner
was willing to "haggle" (he originally asked $2800 + tax). AND he let me put
it on "lay-a-way" for 4 months (by the time I picked it up, it had the
upgrade in it). The Bernina Club there is pretty good, the few times I was
able to make it there. The woman who does it is named Mary (I think), and she
has written some books. He also gives discounts on stuff if you buy it after
Bernina Club is over, and discounts on service to your other machines if you
have purchased a machine there....

BTW, I also have a Bernette 004D, which I love, and has never given me a lick
o' trouble. I paid $500 for it 5 years ago --which I have been told by other
dealers since then was a very good price. (But it doesn't matter now-- it has
paid for itself.)

Does anyone out there know what a decent trade-in value would be for it (the
004D) if I wanted to upgrade to a 2000DE or 2000DCE?

Personally, my hubby almost had a cow when he found out I wanted a $2500
sewing machine, until I pointed out that *his* "toy"-- the computer-- has
cost alot more.... 


Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:20:01 +0700
Subject: Re: Christmas Sewing

>I just bought fabric to do attic windows wall hangings with poinsettias for 
>the windows and red and green fabrics for the sills and walls.  This is a 
>fairly easy pattern to do if you haven't tried it yet.  I had different 
>fabric in mind, but was unable to locate Christmas scenes with white 

Saw your message a while ago and kept meaning to write to ask (better late 
than never, I guess).  Anyway, where did you get the pattern you are 
referring to  Or did you make up the pattern yourself?  I haven't made 
anything yet for my house this year but these sound really neat!!

Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 18:17:38 EST
Subject: Circular Embroidery

Petchy, I'm going to try your method for circular embroidery.  The 
circular embroidery attachment for the 1630 sells for around $29.  I 
had purchased one from a shop that was closing out their Berninas for 
$16, but since it doesn't fit the 1630, I will have to take it back.  

Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:13:52 -0700
Subject: 334DS

Just picked up my 334DS last Saturday and went for my first class this am
Was OK but it's not sewing right needs to be adjusted.  This was a demo that
I bought - saved $300 - but sure hope they can adjust it. Any helpful hints
on this machine would greatly be appreciated as I have never owned a serger
before so everything is new.

Tks in advance
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 14:46:04 PST
Subject: RE: New quilt/Bernina Shop

Sounds like a place to visit.  Address, location, phone no. please?
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 01:14:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Denver

Hi Carol - I would like to extend a personal invitation to you to come out to
my store for a visit. Harriet's Treadle Arts is one of the largest quilt
stores in Colorado and a full line Bernina and Viking dealer. I have operated
the store for 15 years and we are still growing. (The walls are starting to
We are located off I-70. You need to go west on I-70 to the Wadsworth south
exit. Go south (about 1/4 mile) to 44th Avenue and turn left (east). About 13
blocks down, on your right side, you will see a large red brick building with
white pillars on the porch. That is us. I do hope that you will make it out.
There is also an excellent family owned Mexican restaurant across the street
if you like Mexican food.
Happy travels!!  Harriet H
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 11:08:29 PST
Subject: RE: Bernina Owner Wannabe : )

Charlene, I'm a new Bernina owner, but from what I've read on the list
in the past months, a used Bernina is the way to get the most out of
your budget.  I would definitely go for the used machine if it has the features
you want.  Check the Christmas discount prices Bernina has until
Dec 15....good prices on several desirable machines.  There were problems,
by the way, with the 1630 when it first came out and it has been controverial
because it uses a different bobbin mechanism than the others (inc. the 1530).
Everyone on this board seems to agree that the key thing is the relationship
with your dealer rather than price.
Good luck,
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 08:39:52 -0500
Subject: If you can't beat em

Since it doesn't appear that Bernina will be making the 1630 software
available for the Mac anytime soon, and the way things have been going lately
even if they did, my mac would be too old-slow or have too small of a
monitor, I have made myself "Multi-platformational". 

A friend of mine's husband's law firm is upgrading their computers. He called
his wife and asked who she knew who could use a 386 with no software,
documentation, support, etc. but for $150. She told her husband I was her
"computer consultant" and he called me to offer it. I am not really her
consultant, but I am getting good at guessing answers to her questions. 

My husband brought the machine home last night. If I can't hook it up to the
1630 he will at least use it for the Pinewood derby that he runs for the

The 386 had dos 6.22. I installed Windows 3.1 on it so far, once it dawned on
me to just type "setup" it went pretty quickly. I am hoping that since I
don't really plan to conquer the world with this machine that Windows will
not be something I have to become an expert on. I do need to figure out how
to translate those numbers  though, I can't tell if I have a really big hard
drive or a really little one!

Hey, I just realized I may be able to run EQ! I will have to see what that

Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:35:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Egg Iron

The Bernina 830 is a great machine, if the price is right you could upgrade, 
however there were two versions, one with black cords and one with white cords. 
 One has a min/max button on front, lower right corner and one without.  Get the 
newer version.  On both 730 and 830 be sure to  get annual check ups--they have 
motor brushes which must be checked.  If they wear down you'll ruin the 
motor--very expensive mistake.  As a Bernina lover, I would also consider going 
even newer all the way up to the 1260 or 1530.  The 1630 is great but offers a 
little different approach.  Holly
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 05:24:37 -0800
Subject: 1630 Feet

The new walking foot that has come out within the last 6 months has been
designed to specifically fit the wider feed dogs of the 1630.  It costs
about $90 but is worth every penny.   Sally
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:43:05 GMT
Subject: Re: Bernina Reliability

Just a note of caution-- Bernina 830 machines have carbon brushes in the motor 
that occasionally need to be replaced--if you let them run down completely you 
will ruin your motor.  It is inexpesive and worth checking before you damage the 
motor which is expensive.  Holly
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:54:29 GMT
Subject: Re: 1080 Machine Noises 

Question?  Does your 1080 only "knock" when you use the long stitch setting.  
That  is the one that makes the machine take every other stitch?  If so it might 
be a sound that you are just not used to.  It also can be something called the 
tread puller.  Ask the mechanic to check that.
Holly   Good luck and enjoy!
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:47:53 GMT
Subject: Re: Various Replies

I am in MD and have at the moment in a store where I work, several Berninas, 
802,807 and a few more, all with the same body style, but diffent stitch 
combinations as the 801/802 series.  drop me a line if interested
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 08:48:43 -0700
Subject: Re: Bernina Owner Wannbe : )

Margaret - I also have an 1130 I got in 1989 and I love it!!! I'd never
owned   a Bernina before but wouldn't trade for anything.  Just bought a
used 334DS (was a in store demo) but am disappointed because the at first
class I went to it wouldn't stitch properly - not sure what's wrong.  Get it
back on Monday.  I'm sure whatever it'll be just fine once it's serviced.
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 10:35:53 -0600
Subject: Re: Dealers

  > Someone posed the question, what makes for a good dealer?  Last 
  > Christmas, what I really wanted was a handful of bobbins for my Bernina 
  > 1000.  Because they are not commonly available at JoAnnes or House of 
  > Fabrics, my husband had to go to the local Bernina/quilting/bridal fabric 
  > store to get them.  The owner/manager completely ignored him!

I have had this experience too.  When I was just starting to sew, I
would go into fabric stores and feel completely lost.  The sales
people seemed to ignore me.  Over time, this has gotten a lot better.
I attribute it to the fact that most males in a fabric store are only
there waiting for their wives to buy stuff, thus they are ignored in
general.  Generally speaking, the number of males sewing is very
small, and I know my mother in law thinks it pretty strange that I sew
- it is not a "male" thing to do.

Even on this list (or perhaps the sew-l list) people generally
assume all subscribers are female.

Anyway, give them another chance!

Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 12:59:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Polar Fleece Vest

I picked up a remnant of polar fleece during lunch hour and wondered if
anyone has suggestions how to best sew the seams and finish the front edges 
of a vest using this fabric.

I have a 1230 and 2000DE serger.  Thanks.
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:55:55 -0600
To: Bernina 
Subject: Re: 334DS

Can anyone tell me what a good price for the 334DS would be?  The Christmas
sale is starting at my Bernina dealers.

thanks, Sarita
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 06:10:13 -0800
Subject: dress forms - need recommendations

I would like to buy a dress form but don't have any experience with 
them.  The local store carries only the Dritz - My Double.  I see 
Atlanta Thread carries several types.  Since this is a one time only 
purchase (I hope!), i want to get something I'll be happy with.  Can 
anyone share their experience and recommendations?
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 06:15:37 -0800
Subject: Euro Pro System

I saw the Euro Pro system demo'd recently and was really impressed.  I 
am considering getting it but wonder if it is really worth it or if it 
is an expensive toy that I can do with out if I use a little patience 
and develop some skills.  I loved the THREADS article on ironing 
techniques (as a former student of Connie Long's I particularly loved 
seeing her quoted).  

I really want the Euro Pro but - as you can probably tell - I am 
intimidated by the price.  What do you all think????

"I am not a complete idiot....some of the parts are missing"
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:10:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Metallic gold rolled edge

A friend would like me to serge a decorative edge around some fabric
circles she wants to use on jar lids for Christmas presents.  

What combination of threads does anyone suggest will give the desired effect?  
I have the 2000DE model serger.
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:51:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Quilt Supply Shopping Online

What is the phone # for the Pine Tree Quilt Shop in Maine?  Thank you.

Jodie In GA
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:38:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Acrylic Table

Hi Sue! 
I just picked up my e-mail for the first time this week and found your note.
I spent the week at Barbara's (Barbara in Georgia) retreat in the mountains
immersing myself in quilting (no husbands, no children, no cooking, no
cleaning - absolute heaven) and now I am trying to return to reality ;>( . I
purchased my acrylic table when I had a fabric store from a wholesale company
called Quilter's Rule. It retailed for about $45.00 at that time (1 year
ago). I suggest that you inquire at a quilt shop or independent fabric
retailer that carries quilt supplies because most of them probably have an
account with this company and can special order it for you. You specify the
make and model of sewing machine so that you can get it cut to match. You can
even get one to fit a featherweight. Some of the mailorder companies also
carry these tables but their prices were higher at that time. Good luck with
your search.
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:14:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina DIgest 11/9/95

>Personally, my hubby almost had a cow when he found out I wanted a $2500
sewing machine, until I pointed out that *his* "toy"-- the computer-- has
cost alot more.... 

I have a MacLC, and what's been happening lately is the new software is not
written to run on a slow machine, or one with a small monitor. Good thing
that fabric isn't designed not to be sewn on an old or slow sewing machine !

Love RobbiE
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:55:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bernina 830

Dear Bernina lovers,

I would like to start a discussion on the topic mentioned above in the 
subject heading based on that which I included below from an earlier 
conversation.  As you know, I am also an 830 owner, and I recall vividly 
how the store manager warned me to buy it instead of the computerized 
version that was coming in several months.  He said this was tantamount 
to buying one of the old solid Singer sewing machines that they will 
never make anymore.  He called the Bernina 830 the Rolls Royce of sewing 
machines.  As you know, I bought mine in 1975 and it has been a dream 
machine.  I have had a small sewing business for years and have made 
everything from horse blankets, heavily quilted sewing machine covers and 
flimsy items.  No bobbin problems, no foot problems.  I have pushed it to 
its limits and it has given back what I needed.  As I have said before, I 
do have trouble working with some of the filmier fabrics, but that is 
probably because I need to go over to the dealer and get a special foot, 
and definitely a walking foot.  I think we have a big enough voice, since 
we are international, to make a loud noise to the Bernina head honchos 
and let them know we want Bernina machines manufactured in the future 
that have the durability and quality of the 830 and less of the glitches 
the new computerized versions have.  If we do not demand quality, they 
won't give it to us.  Is this a conversation we want to pursue among 
ourselves, or not?

Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 18:48:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina DIgest 11/9/95

Jane Moore:  Hi, clean upper tension discs with a soft brush (I use unused
blush brush I picked up in a complimentary makeup gift from cosmetic
surgery).   Brush two or three times both top and mid disc and around all
areas where top thread passes.  Brush in the direction you thread the machine
- downward toward the needle.  Thread leaves 'dust' too.
Subject: Re: How much ease?
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 15:45:26 PST

Thanks Jody, I did draft the pattern on paper yesterday and will check
the bust measurment. I allowed plenty on the underarm seam so will cut
if from muslin and give it a try.  

I just finished my daughters and it looks great.  Kind of a african
fabric on one front, black, gold, oranage, brown and a touch of blue,
I paper pieced a bird of paradise flower plus diagonal and up and down
stripes on the other front and the back is black.  It is reverseable
and made from Carol Doak's vest book.  :0}
Jean P
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:14:20 -0500
Subject: Machine service

I am very much a novice, so please bear with me.

A few years ago I bough a 1020, and loved it.  I didn't use it that much
though, and haven't used it at all for approx. a year.  I want to go back to
sewing (I just retired so now I have the time).

My question is: should I have the machine serviced before I use it, or is it
ok just to oil and clean it myself?

Thanks .... Pat
Subject: Re: Bernina Reliability
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 16:15:03 PST

Touche Mary!!!  As a matter of fact I just heard from the local dealer of
Bernina and New Home that the new 9000 is not as good a machine as the
previous one, :-/.

Anyway, are you all ready for Houston??  I can't believe it's that time
again already.  How is you Pineapple block coming along?  Of the two
methods of paper piecing which do you like the best?  I have not started
my Mariners Compass that is like your pineapple yet.
Jean P
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:29:31 -0600
Subject: polartec

Can someone tell me where I can mail order polartec:
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:28:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Construction

Lyn - you wrote that you found a "Nancy" site on the web - under
construction.  Where?
Thanks.   Halli
ate: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:49:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Software

There may be some confusion here about what is version 2.  The 1630 has been
sold as Version 2 here ( in the US) for quite sometime and the upgrade (not
free)  was and is available for all 1630 owners.

The will be a version 2 of the software released soon (there is not a
scheduled date yet).  It is as described by Kay L(? I already deleted it )

Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 12:53:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 11/10/95

Hi Cynthia:  Pressing equipment was thoroughly covered in the summer issue of
Creative Machine Newsletter.  You might want to research that issue.

Hi Jodie,

The Pine Tree Quiltworks in Maine, P.O. Box 216, Cape Cottage Branch, Cape
Elizabeth, Maine 04107
(207)799-7357/Fax (207)799-3525
happy shopping.

Hi Again Jane Moore:  Just to correct cosmetic counter not surgery.  Can't
imagine where my head was when I typed surgery.  I don't ever think I would
pay for cosmetic surgery. 8-).  Sorry for the error.
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 13:57:51 -0500
Subject: Re: 334DS

DEar Darlene, 
You bought a great serger!  I have had one for 5 years.  
Most everything I sew requires tension set at 5-5-3-5, using woolly nylon in
the upper looper.  I change the cutting width depending on the
fabric...narrower for lighter weights.  You need to use good thread in the
needles, I prefer Metler but usually get stuck with Maxi lock, and good
needles.  And keep it clean.  I use my computer vac.
Before you start sewing EVERY TIME do a practice seam
There is a good book called INNOVATIVE SERGING by Gail Brown, et al.  You
might be able to get it from Nancy's Notions

If you have any specific questions feel free to e-mail me at
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 14:14:03 EST
Subject: Circular Embroidery

Petchy, I'm going to try your method for circular embroidery.  The 
circular embroidery attachment for the 1630 sells for around $29.  I 
had purchased one from a shop that was closing out their Berninas for 
$16, but since it doesn't fit the 1630, I will have to take it back.  

Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 14:14:51 EST
Subject: Circular Embroidery


I'm looking forward to seeing that issue of the 1630 library that 
describes making yo yo's.  I'll have to return the circular 
attachment that I bought since I didn't realize there was a special 
one for the 1630.  I bought it from a dealer that is closing out 
Berninas (how awful!) so I got a very good price.  I think I will put 
that item on my Christmas list.

Sandy, where the 5" of wet snow we got today looks 
beautiful on the huge trees in the woods that I see from my sewing-
computer room 
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 14:12:59 EST
Subject: Ease Allowance


Vogue Pattern Magazine has an Ease Chart in each issue.  For dresses, 
blouses, shirts, tops and vests (bust area) they give the following:  
Close Fitting 0 - 2 7/8", Fitted 3 - 4", Semi-fitted 4 1/8 - 5", 
Loose fitting 5 1/8 - 8", etc.  These are the ease amounts that are 
built into their patterns.

Date: 11 Nov 95 14:40:53 EST
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 11/10/95

	I just caught up reading all my Digests, and passed along some info on
the Deco 500 to my friend.  Since we do not have a Brother dealer anywhere near
us...Does anyone know of an address for a brother dealer that will mail order?
Those books to scan sound neat and my friend lets me play on her Deco.
Thanks, Carol
Date: 11 Nov 95 17:05:37 EST
Subject: If you can't beat them


 When you get your dos prompt C:>  (I think this is what it looks like) type
mem      and then ENTER.  Then it will bring up a listing of how much memory
and what it available.  Hope this helps.

Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:44:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Polar Fleece Vest

     I'm making polar fleece vests for my husband and 2 sons for Christmas.
  I saw one in Nancy's Notions and decided to try it.  The pattern is Stretch
and Sew #196 called Oregon Rain Jacket and Vest.   I haven't finished the
first one yet but so far it has gone together very nicely.  The pattern calls
for finishing the armhole, bottom edge and  neck and front edge with lycra. 
I had never sewn with lycra before but I found that it is very easy to sew
with.  So far I have done 2 things different from the directions on the
pattern.  First I only used 1 layer for the collar.  I tried it with the 2
that were called for but I thought it wasn't soft enough.  One layer feels
just right to me. Second after turning the lycra binding to the front the
pattern said to edge stitch it down with a straight stitch.  I used a small
zig-zag with the zig catching the lycra and the zag going into the fleece.  I
thought it wouldn't show as much that way and it doesn't.  I'm very pleased
with it and I'm a bit of a perfectionist.  I can't remember the name of the
stitch that I'm using to sew the seams but it is the one that is 2 straight
stitches and then a zig-zag (the opposite of a blind hem).  I always use this
stitch for any knits that I sew on and it works well for me.  (I have a 1090
and no serger.)   Hope this helps.

Candy B
Subject: Re: Dealers 
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 18:07:38 -0500

Dave, I  think that's terrible!  When I go into woodworking stores and
lumber yards (why stop at just one hobby?), I'm treated just fine.  I
hope you don't give up and step up and ask for whatever you want.  The
clerks will just have to get used to you :-).

Debbie D
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 19:10:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Euro Pro System

I  recently purchased the EuroPro System and am quite pleased.  I do quite a
bit of tailoring and this system, which includes both heavy duty steam and a
suction table that removes the moisture,  gives very professional results.
  The system does take a considerable amount of time to warm up so it isn't
what I use for normal day to day pressing.  But to achieve professional
pressing results it's been very good and  honestly makes a difference that
can be seen in the finished product.
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 19:23:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina 830

Joyce - why are you so sure that Bernina is no longer producing the same high
quality as with the 830?  Sewing machines are a lot like automobiles - some
folks view them as basic transportation, while others want to get where they
are going faster and with more creature comforts.  From what I have observed,
Bernina is responding to the public's demand for more bells and whistles -
the more complex a piece of machinery is - the greater the potential for
something to go wrong.  The big glitch seems to be in the way the dealers
respond when there is a problem, and if there are any demands to be made, I
feel it is in the type of after-sale service we receive.  Perhaps "bad"
dealers should be reported to the company - for they are the ones giving out
the black eyes.  I recently purchased a 1090, and upgraded to a 1260 this
week.  So far, I have been VERY pleased - after being a Singer devotee for 35
years.  I think what happened to singer was the result of mergers and poor
corporate management who didn't understand or care about the home sewer.
 Bernina is still run by the original family, and I believe they still value
their good name.
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 19:23:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Wanted Serger

Nancy- I was a hold out on buying a serger for many, many years.  Got the
2000 last year, and now I don't know how I lived without it.  I don't know
what kind of sewing you like to do, but here are some important features to
consider in sergers:
1.  It must be easy to thread - accesible loopers.
2.  Diferential feed allows you to do many more tasks (like gathering) and
adjustment for various types of fabric.
3.  The more automatic the machine is - the more likely you will be to use
it.  How much fiddling with the tension are you prepared to do in order to
get the stitch you want?
4.  The ability to use 2, 3, or 4 threads opens even more vistas of practical

While price is generally the main consideration, it is not always the most
important one.
Would you rather pay less for a machine you find you really don't like after
you learn about what else is available, or pay a little more now and get
something you will really use and enjoy?  Before you buy, sit down with the
various models, and rather than just watching a demo - you do the test.  Try
threading it yourself, and change to several applications.  Look at the guide
book (what a radical thought) to get a feel for what all the machine will do,
how difficult it is to make it do those things, and find your match.  If you
are more than just an occasional sewer, I would strongly recommend you get
more machine than what you think you need - you'll grow into it, and be glad
of it when you are not looking to trade up in another year :-D  Hope this
helps.  Linda
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 22:47:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Source for Stretch &Sew

For Jona:

You can get a catalog from Stretch &Sew and order from them directly.

You can order a Stretch and Sew home catalog by :

1) calling 1-800-547-7717

2) emailing

3) fax 503-465-8983

The stretch and sew internet address is
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 23:00:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Freehand Monograms

I just started using my 1230 and everything is working great - except for
doing freehand monograms.   Is there some kind of trick to getting this to
work?  I've followed the instructions in the manual --- but I have trouble
initially trying to bring the bobbin thread up -- once that works -- I have
alot of trouble getting it to start with nice, even stitching.  Any tips you
have will be much appreciated.
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 22:46:21 MDT
Subject: Re: Dealers

** Reply to note from Bernina  11/11/95 11:23am -0500
>I have had this experience too.  When I was just starting to sew, I
>would go into fabric stores and feel completely lost.  The sales
>people seemed to ignore me. 

Same problem here.  I found that one way to get the sales people over  
their attitude is to express some knowledge of their specialty.  My  
most recent experience with this was at a store where an older woman  
and a young woman were working together.  I believe the older woman was  
the manager.  The younger salesperson was very short with me.  She  
acted like I was invading some space she owned.  She came over to ask  
if I needed any help-with the attitude that having to do so would bore  
her to death-and I asked her a simple question about the Footsteps  
brochures.  I can't remember the question but she basically pointed to  
the rack and said "there they are."  A few minutes later when I was  
checking out I was discussing the foot I decided to purchase with the  
older salesperson and she was much more informative, helpful, and  
treated me like someone who she wanted back in her store.  Of course,  
she figured out that I owned a $3000.00 sewing machine!  That always  
helps!  It also seems to make a big impression when I tell skeptical  
salespeople that my wife doesn't know how to cook, do laundry, or clean  
the house!  She married the happy homemaker.  The best way to get a  
little respect is to find a fabric store you really like and become a  
regular customer.   Then, they start asking what you're sewing this  
time.  Which is sew-speak for "you are part of the gang."
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 22:38:12 PST

>What is the phone # for the Pine Tree Quilt Shop in Maine?  Thank you.<
Jean P

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