Bernina Fan Club Archives

March 95


Date: Wed,  1 Mar 95 10:47:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 2/27/28
 
I've seen a big change in my 1630 since it came back from it's upgrade.  It is
like a brand new machine.  It even sounds new!  I'm glad I sent it out for it.
Has anyone heard about the walking foot for the 1630?
 
I did some machine quilting last night on the 830.  Really does a nice job.
Roni
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Date:         Wed, 01 Mar 95 09:03:22 EST
Subject:      Re: Bernina Digest 2/28/95

Just a thought about those feet----
I have been doing some machine quilting (card trick -- new method of
assembly) on a wall hanging.  I was using the foot with the plastic
see-through, I think its the applique foot.  It was working just OK but
seemed to be getting a little drag so I changed to the walking foot.  That
produced the feel I wanted and was super BUT I really missed not being able
to see just where that needle point was going in.  Now, wouldn't it be
just hunkey dorie if we could have a walking foot with a "window" or just
a plastic thingy so we could see that needle go into the fabric.  With the
two wallhangings and quilt I need to complete by the end of April, it would
be super.  And of course it would need to fit my 1130 which I adore!!
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 1995 09:20:10 -0500
Subject: 'Generic' feet on a 'NINA

Hello all!

In my forays into the inexpensive (well, LESS expensive) world of 'generic'
sewing machine feet, I've had , as you may already expect, varying degrees
of success.

I early on got the low shank adapter for 'NINA.   I have found my older bias
binder to work very well (it looks just about the same as the Bernina one).
So does the spring loaded fre-hand embroidery foot (7$ at Clotilde's). But
other feet have not worked so well.

The clear plastic, open toe embroidery foot that Clotilde sells DID NOT work
to well.  First, it's _narrower_ than teh machine's feed dog (loss of
traction).  Second, its groove right behind the needle is too narrow.  I
couldn't use a 5mm satin stitch: it would butt against the corners of the
underside groove and stall feeding.  So I splurged on  #20 (all metal)
'official' foot. That one works well .

I have seen several of the 'generic' feet (like the ones sold by Sewing
Emporium) that were in fact narrower than nina's feed dog.  While that may
not invalidate the foot, it does reduce the quality of the feed.

The other aspect of using generic feet for me is laziness...  I've become so
spoiled with the quick/clip on feet changes that I'm reluctant to go to the
screw driver and remount the low shank adapter on a different foot.  I know,
I'm bad!

If anyone has had good luck with generic feet, please let us know.  They ARE
cheaper!!!
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Sylvain B
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 95 07:57:23 -0700
Subject: Bias Binder foot

Item Subject: Creative Feet
     Sandra wrote:
     >with the adaptor (a necessity).  I ma interested in the bias binding 
     >foot Kari mentioned...can anyone tell me what it is called and where 
     >one might 
     
     Sandra,
     
     I don't have any clue what the name of the foot is, but my Bernina 
     dealer is the one who told me about it (and sold it to me).  I haven't 
     seen one like it anywhere else.  I'm sure it's got to be around - I'll 
     try and ask my dealer this weekend when I see him, and see if he can 
     tell us where he bought it from.
     
     Kari
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 09:52:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Fabric Stores in New Orle...

This is to Sylvain.

I do not live in New Orleans (and I've never been there either)  BUT I have
the trusty "Quilters Travel Companion", never leave home without it!!  ;D 

I looked up LA and found a quilt store in New Orleans:

  Quilt Cottage 
  801 Nashville Avenue 
  New Orleans     LA    70115
  (504)895-3791    
  (800)453-6998   

Mon - Sat  10-5     Owners;  Carol Schiaffino and Jeanne Lincks      2,000
sq. ft.      Room full of 100% cotton fabric.  The latest books, notions &
patterns.  New, Antique, Custom made quilts.  Repair.

The little map they put in the book shows the shop almost right on the
Mississippi River and across from the Zoo.  Maybe that information helps you
to find the shop, if you get a chance to go.  

The following three shops in New Orleans just had the address, no ad,  no
map, in other info:

Old Craft Cottage   816 Decatur St

The Front Porch   824 Royal

Partners Pillow Talk   541 Chartres


I hope this info helps!  As you can tell, I'm a quilter.  Fabraholic and
quiltaholic!  Have a great time in LA !!!

Ciao to you too!

from Debby 
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 95 12:30:15 PST
Subject: old digests


Does anyone have digests going back to say when the 1630's
came out?  I need to do some catching up as I'm new on the
group and don't want to repost already discussed subjects.

thanks,

maggie
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 03:38:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Bernina Digest 2/26/95

Re: dropping feed dogs with the walking foot.  DO NOT do this.  The whole idea 
is that the walking foot augments the feed process by acting like feed dogs on 
the top while the machine's feed dogs work on the bottom.  
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 08:00:25 -0500
Subject: Re: WALKING FOOT

Well, my walking foot troubles are over. Apparently, it got wind of my
attitude, jumped off my sewing table in a blatant suicide attempt and broke
off a toe, rendering it useless and helpless. I tried to feel sorry for it,
but I have a feeling that it never was a perfect match. Perhaps walking feet
were not really meant for the 800 series of Berninas? So, after this untimely
demise of my walking foot I will be heading off to find the grail that will
work with this machine and the one I hope to get later this fall - when I may
have money but won't have time. Thanks for all of the hints and info. I'm
probably still a Bernina kind of woman.
Kathy B
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 08:18:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Hello Again

HI!
   I am sorry to use band width but am trying to contact a friend.  If 
Barb from MA who works for a dentist and originally was on the net about 
buttonholes would contact me I would appreciate.  I am sorry but I lost 
your E-mail address.
                             Jacque F
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 08:26:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Walking Foot

Hi Kathy, 
    Sorry to hear about your loss....although you don't seem all broken 
up about it.  I wonder if you have the correct walking foot for your 800.
I work part time selling Berninas and there are three sizes of walking 
feet.  One for the 900 and lower number model of machines.  One for the 
machines in the 1000 series and a new one coming out for the 1650.  The 
walking foot must correspond to your machine because it works with the 
feed dogs and the different catagories of machines have different feed 
dog widths and it makes all the difference in the world using this foot.
Hope you get to try another walking foot because these truly are 
wonderful feet.  I would never have been able to make velvet formal gowns 
for my daughter and my (faux...fake) fur cape without my walking foot.
           Better luck next time.....Jacque F
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Subject: Bernina
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 08:48:30 -0500

Does anyone know of any books pertaining to the Bernina model 1260?

--
Sallie L
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Subject: Re: Walking Foot
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 10:23:46 -0500 (EST)

I have an 830 and use my Walking Foot extensively.  No problems 
whatsoever.  I do a lot of machine quilting with it.  I wonder if 
your Foot was ill to begin with. . .?

beth
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Subject: Bernina HELP!
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:54:34 -0500 (EST)

Howdy!

I have a Bernina 830 that I purchased used 2 years ago.  I am 
quite happy with it as I had an unbranded straight/zigzag only 
that had to have been about a hundred years old.  It enjoyed 
dancing on the table when I sewed and never quite kept time with 
the stitches it should be sewing.  Anyway, although I have the 
instruction booklet that came with my Bernina, I am looking for 
a good general, all purpose book that would assist with all 
aspects of the machine.  Not only how to utilize all of the 
stitches, but good maintenance reference -- oiling, etc.  

I currently have a squeak in the upper part of the machine as I 
sew.  I hate to take it in as my local repair person is NOT 
recommended.  The next place is about 50 miles away, not to 
mention being without the machine for who-knows-how-long.

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

beth
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Date: 2 Mar 1995 13:55:35 +0100
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 2/28/95

        Reply to:   RE>>Bernina Digest 2/28/95

Phillis, I have heard of clipping the front metal bar off of the walking foot
to make it like the open-toed embroider foot.  That would give you the
visibility you want.  Has anyone one this???
Anita K
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:58:00 -0500
Subject: 1630 and walking foot

Does anyone know if these are really out?  The woman at our local store said
she was skipped over the first shipment of the walking foot for the 1630.  If
any of you have any sources, PLEASE let me know.

Desperate for a walking foot in RI.
Jennifer
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 15:46:56 -0700
Subject: What about the 1650?

Item Subject: Re: Walking Foot
     
>One for the 900 and lower number model of machines.  One for the 
>machines in the 1000 series and a new one coming out for the 1650.  

     There's a 1650 coming out?  Argh!  I just got my 1630.  What's this 
     machine supposed to do, does anyone know?  I also heard Bernina is 
     supposed to be introducing a new serger this year.  Anyone know 
     anything about it, either?
     
     I think my sewing machines are being obsoleted as fast as my 
     computers!!  Help me, please.... :-)       
     
     Kari
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 09:12:25 -0500
Subject: #10 foot, Bernina books

Well, after all the discussion about the #10 foot I had to have one. I am so
happy I did. I have been using it all the time this week.

I am piecing a wall quilt that has a circular center, and every piece has set
in points. I am paper piecing this, so I was doing fine, working from the
center, until the final round and the first piece I put in would not lay
flat. So, I trimmed the seam allowance off the PAPER, pressed the fabric over
and used my #10 as a guide and machine appliqued the piece into place. I used
YLI nylon thread in the needle, dropped the needle tension down to 2.5,
narrowed the zig zag width and left everything else the same. I had been
planning to use the foot for machine applique, I had just not thought of it
to get me out of a corner in piecing. Carol Bryer Fallert uses this method
all the time. I had tried it on my Pfaff, but it didn't work. I wasn't going
to buy this foot, thinking I could use the blind hem foot that comes with the
machine, but boy am I glad I did.

Also, the walking foot for the 1630 is out, it is around $82. I haven't
bought one because I do free motion quilting, and because I am so enamored of
all the other special feet I have, and none of them can be used with the
walking foot. 

As for books, Jackie Dodson has a book out called "Know Your Bernina", but it
is old. She is good though, and the book is about $15. I have her "Know Your
Pfaff" and I used it all the time. I looked through the Bernina book and
didn't find a whole lot in there that applied to my 1630 so I didn't get it.
But if you have NO Bernina references at least look at it. Borders Books has
it or can get it.

Betty Nall has some Bernina books out, and I have paged through them but not
bought them. The "Heirloom Sewing On the 1630" had great ideas for using
feet. Clotilde carries these.

Also, once again, I urge all new owners to take the lessons that come with
the machine, and any other free ones you can get. My dealer has a new owners
club that meets once a month. The real object of the meeting is to sell us
stuff, she highlights a group of feet every month, this Monday it will be
pintucking, but I am learning a lot. I would also urge you to check into
classes even if you bought your machine used from a private person. I have
talked to a few dealers who figure that once you get a decent machine you
will be hooked for life and they are interested in selling you that next
machine.

Well, I am off to sew, I am properly attired in my comfy blue jeans with the
elastic waist and my "No whining I'm quilting " shirt which I reserve for
days when I am seriously sewing. My kids see this and run!

RobbiE
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 95 08:48:32 MST
Subject: Re Walking Feet

Hi -

        I do have the new 1630 walking foot which I purchased
        Feb. 16, just in time for a quilting class with Harriet
        Hargrave.

        At this class she was recommending that you clip out
        the front of the walking foot for more visibility.
        Her sewing machine repair person, Kurt, was doing
        it for $8 for anyone who wanted it done.  Since my
        foot was brand-new, I didn't think that it would be
        wise to do it 'til I had throughly checked out my
        foot.  However, a lot of people did it.  Here is
        her address and phone number in case you want to
        get more information about it.  Don't know if they'd
        do mail order or not.

                Harriet's Treadle Arts
                6390 W. 44th Ave
                Wheat Ridge, CO
                (303) 424-2742

        Good luck with those walking feet!  :)
        Dorothy Q
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 11:45:05 EST
Subject: Re: Walking Foot

You were talking about walking feet for the Bernina.  I do not have one at
this time but I am wondering if I need it.  I have the 1030 but I have a
walking foot for my old machine - 830.  You are telling me that the 830
walking foot on this machine.  I was not happy with this foot on my 830 so
thus the indecision.  I am taking a class in Machine Applique soon and am also
waiting to see what this teacher suggests.

While in Williamsburg is weekend - the Bernina people were doing this great
stuff with a new bobbin case that allowed you to use heavy thread and even
ribbon in the bobbin to make very interesting stitches.  I am waiting for this
to arrive as it had to be ordered.  The store I deal with is not very good
about teaching.  I feel this is my biggest disappointment.  I love my machine
but it obviously does thing I know nothing about.  Rosalie
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:20:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina 830 Book

The following was part of a letter on the board:  "Anyway, although I have
the instruction booklet that came with my Bernina, I am looking for a good
general, all purpose book that would assist with all aspects of the machine."
 I have one called "Know your Bernina" by Jackie Dodson, published in 1987 by
Chilton Book Co.  The price on mine is $10.95.  It's not GREAT, but it's the
best, i.e., the ONLY, book I found.  Just be sure the 830 is addressed as
some of the newer books ignore these old, but WONDERFUL, machines.  I never
do more than oil mine and clean out the lint and I've had it forever!  
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 95 19:22:07 -0500
Subject: Administrative Stuff

Hi Everyone - Happy Friday, 

We had a small problem woth our mail program this morning.  We lost several 
pices of mail so if you sent something to the Bernina list, but you haven't seen 
it sent back to you, please resend it.  I'm sorry about any inconvience, DH used 
up all the free disk space mail out several large files, but we've corrected the 
problem.  (We also have a new, BIG, hard disk coming in next week.)
Thanks, 
Sue T
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 95 12:43:09 PST
Subject: Re:  What about the 1650?

I'm with you. I JUST bought my 1630 and haven't gone to the classes
yet.  I'll be very upset because I specifically asked what the next
generation of berninas would be!
I think it's time to call bernina's toll free number.
(Of course I can't find it now.)

maggie
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 14:52:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Help!

THE great thing about the 830 is that you can oil the top portion of the
head. There are about 5 spots if you want I can send a diagram.e-mail your
address and I can snail it to you.Pat R
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Date: Fri,  3 Mar 95 10:45:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 3/1/95
 
I used the generic Satin Stitch foot for awhile on my 1530 when I had it.  It
was ok, but then I got the #20 foot.  I like it a lot better.  I get nervous
putting something on my Bernina that isn't made for a Bernina.  Silly I guess,
but I do.
Has anyone heard when the new keys are coming out, or the next part of the 1630
library.
 
Roni
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Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 10:51:57 -0500
Subject: Heavy threads

When you get the extra bobbin case let me know and I will send you a hand out
from one of my classes, if you are interested that is. You can produce some
wonderful results with novelity threads. Pat R
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Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 10:57:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Books

The books you refer to are by Mary Lou Nall I can give her sddress. She does
wonderful semminars as well.  Also Bernia has an advanced guide book that is
a wealth of information, covering all Bernies..
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Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 13:02:32 -0500
Subject: Re: 1630 and walking foot

G-Street Fabrics in Rockville MD has the walking foot for the 1630 in stock.
  It is $68.50.  I was told that they have all of the available feet for the
1630.

Their telephone number is 301-231-8998.  The order number is1-800-333-9191.  

Mia
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Date: Sat,  4 Mar 95 14:22:04 PST
Subject: Skipped stitches

Hi Everyone!

I've been lurking for a couple of months now and have enjoyed reading all your
posts about Berninas.  I've finally worked up the courage to post for the first
time so please excuse any mistakes.  I have a 1090 which I love, of course.  My
problem is that sometimes when I am sewing and then change directions with my
needle in the fabric, the first stitch after the direction change skips leaving
me with a rounded corner instead of the crisp, sharp corner that I want.  It's
especially aggravating when machine quilting or doing fusible applique designs. 
Does anyone have any suggestions for correcting this problem?  I've tried
cleaning and oiling and using new needles but the problem persists.  Also, I've
been really bad as I've had the machine for two years and it hasn't been back to
the shop for it's annual physicals.  I was forced to sell my previous machines
to help pay for the purchase of the Bernina and therefore can't bear the thought
of being machine-less for the few weeks my Bernina would be in the shop.  Could
it be that my problem is due to the fact that it hasn't had a professional
cleaning?


JoAnn
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Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 18:08:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Skipped Stitches

To JoAnn;

Re;  the skipped and wiggly stitches you have when you machine quilt and turn
a sharp corner;  I don't think it is your machine.  I think it is in your
technique.  Sorry ;(     I also machine quilt on my Bernina, the unsightly
corners you talk about are from turning the fabric and not letting the fabric
"relax".  That is;  there is tension on the needle and the fabrics are being
pulled by weight of the seam, weight of the hanging quilt, etc.  I hope this
helps, we are all here to learn, right?   ;)     Good luck with your machine
quilting.  

Debby

P.S.  I'm also going to guess that the unsightly corners are only visable to
you and not to others!  Aren't we always hardest on ourselves?  ;) 
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Date: 05 Mar 95 09:21:22 EST
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 2/28/95

Hi guys,
     I guess you'd call me new here although I have been subscribing for awhile
this is my first effort at communication.  I have the 1630 and the 334DS serger.
I have a Power Mac computer and am trying to decide if I show get the 1630
software now or wait for the Mac version. Anyone out there with software?  I am
really a bit of a collector when it comes to feet. My dealer usually features
one at each Bernina Club with a slightly different way to use it.  I also like
footsteps.                                               Carol
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 12:55:37 -0500
Subject: 1630 Feet on 1530?

Hi,
I bought a 1530 in late Dec., and am considering upgrading to the 1630 later
this year. In the meantime, if I buy more feet for my 1530, can the 1530 use
the feet coded for the 1630?
I'm still trying to figure out if it is worth the $600 for the machine
upgrade, plus the approximately $100 to replace the feet that I already have
with thier coded counterparts, plus the straight stitch plate, and sideways
foot, etc, etc. 
Also, since our computers are all Macintosh, and mine is a Power Macintosh
8100, I'm wondering about the design software, hardware adaptation required
for a Power Mac, etc?
Any thoughts of yours would be most appreciated.
Many thanks,
Marianne Y
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 13:20:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Skipped Stitches

Hi to all Bernina Owners! I have a Bernina dealership here in Colorado and my
mechanic - Kurt - is more than willing to try to answer any technical
questions that might come up - or at least offer suggestions - no guarantees.

As to the skipped stitches - since the machine has not been serviced for 2
years - that would be the first recommendation. Things that the mechanic
could look for for this particular problem are:
1) ziz-zag distribution
2) loop lift adjustment
3) hook needle adjustment
This can all sound Greek, but the needle and hook adjustments are critical to
the quality of the stitches. If you are using your knee lift, I doubt that
the problem is the way you are sewing. Do you notice a skipped stitch here
and there? I see this in my classes a lot - where just one stitch is skipped
occasionally - almost unnoticable. All of these are normal adjustments, made
when the machine is in for its "yearly" check - up. Hope this helps. Harriet
and Kurt
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 14:28:45 -0500
Subject: Bernette Deco 500

I see the new embroidery/monogram machine is out.  Has anyone seen it yet?
 How does it compare to the others on the market now?  I will be looking at
it next weekend at the craft festival here in Phx.
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 14:29:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Heavy Thread

To Pat  R

I'd like that hand-out also.  Sounds interesting.
One neat thing I did with 1/8" ribbon in the bobbin was to go around the edge
of a round panel design that had been fused to the shirt, the design line
basted in from the right side, then start at the top of circle, sew on the
ribbon in the bobbin (wrong side of piece up).  The starting and ending tails
of the ribbon tye into a nice bow to complete the surface decoration.  The
circle of ribbon looks scalloped on both sides.
If there's interest or need, I could email step-by-step directions.  
Thanks,    Ida T
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 14:29:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Skipped Stitches

Here's a good way to avoid these on corners:
Use the needle-down bttn, or hand-wheel needle down in older models, so that
needle is down before you pivot for the direction change.
Catches the hooked thread every time. 

Enjoy!   Ida T
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 18:37:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Skipped Stitches

Joann, If you are doing free motion work then you just need to increase the
speed--run it a little faster to get more stitches to the inch...sort of like
driving into a curve in the road.Also don't have needle down on or it will
take a stitch more.
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Subject: Re: Skipped Stitches
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 95 14:34:20 PST

What a nice offer.  My dealer is new to Bernina and I know more
than they do and that is really scary, :-}!!  I really miss
having Bernina Club too and long for the incentive.  The ladies 
in this store are really into Pfaff, so I keep hammering for a
Bernina Club.

Are you  "The" Harriet Hargrave?  If so, I thoroughly enjoy your 
books!

My question in, I purchased a Bernina Ruffler in a blue and white
box years ago for my 930 and never used it.  I believe it requires
the low shank adapter, which I do have.  Will this fit on my 1530?
My dearler does not know and does not seem interested in finding out
for me.

Thanks for any help.



-- 
Jean P
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 18:46:50 -0500
Subject: Re:Bernina Digest 2/28/95

Bernina has no plans for a Mac version of software.......................
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 22:57:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 2/26/95

I'd be REALLY interested in more info on dropping the feed dogs with the
walking foot. 
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 95 07:47:11 PST
Subject: David Page Coffin

          Hi.  There was a discussion awhile back about David Page
          Coffin (the shirtmaker).  I just wanted to share my
          excitement with all of you.  He gave an all day class in
          Eugene, OR this past Saturday which I was thrilled to
          attend.  The class was sponsored by 27th Street Fabrics in
          Eugene (Bernina Dealership).  About 40 women attended.
          Everyone brought their Berninas (I have a 930 so I was
          drooling over everyone's 1630.)

          If you ever have a chance to take a class from DPC, do so.
          I don't think I'll go into the custom shirtmaking business
          but we learned some absolutely _magic_ techniques for
          constructing collars with stands, cuffs, sleeve plackets.
          The hands-on experience was really worth it.  I've been
          sewing for a long time and blouses/shirts are my favorite
          garment to sew, so for me these new techniques are
          unbelievable.

          Coffin is a wonderful teacher.  Very low-key, calm, to the
          point and clear.

          Thanks.

          Chris L
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Subject: Machine Quilting
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 12:33:27 -0500 (EST)

Good Afternoon Troops!

I have an issue/question.  Last night I was machine quilting, 
using my wonderful walking foot (I do love it!) on my Bernina 830 
(which I also am in love with).  When I machine quilt I use a 
good cotton/poly in my bobbin and .004 Wonder invisible thread on 
top.  I have 2 lines of stitching that came out so strange.  The 
top looks fine.  The bobbin thread looks like "thread" not 
stitched, on the back.  However, it is attached to the fabric but 
looks like it is just lying on the fabric.  Of course I didn't 
notice this until the whole quilt was finished.  It has caused a 
giant pucker in the middle of the quilt.  

What did I do wrong???????

beth
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 17:26:31 -0500
Subject: keys for the 1630

I'm having trouble with the sports key's designs coming out correctly.  The
heads are frequently in the wrong place.  Any suggestions on getting it to
work correctly.  Would like to know if it's me, my key or if others have
similiar problems.
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 95 22:06:44 -0500
Subject: Re: keys for the 1630

> Would like to know if it's me, my key or if others have
>similiar problems.

It is definitely not you.  I've had trouble with the larger design motifs, not 
from the Sports Key, but from the X-mas key &from the built in designs.  I've 
tried adjusting the balance as per the manual, but I really have no idea what 
I'm adjusting.  The manual says adjust length, then width anywhere from 1 to ?, 
but what do the 1 - n indicate.  Stitches, milimeters, a proportion of the 
total??  It seemed that no matter what I did, the patterns was still off (The 
kitty really looked bad)  Thicker fabric seemed to work better, but it still 
wasn't great.  Any help would really be appreciated.  I'd really like to use 
some of the motifs (esp. the monograms)
Thanks, 
Sue T
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:22:52 -0500
Subject: installing elastic

I am in a doll exchange, we made these dolls, then we pass them to the next
person, who put on the face and hair, then they go to the next person....
Anyway this month we made underwear for the doll. I needed to put elastic on
the bottom of the bloomers, and I know some people have mastered the skill of
sewing the elastic right onto the fabric. I had several problems with this,
mostly I think because the elastic would not stretch out to the length of the
fabric I had to gather. I finally resorted to putting a casing in and doing
the elastic the old fashioned way. At least the casing wasn't so bad because
I used my #10 foot to do the edgestitching. I seem to be in this mode of
edgestitching anything that doesn't move. I could never do this neatly
before. Also, I am using "longcuts" everywhere lately. This pair of doll
underwear has very nice buttons camisole, and beautiful embroidery on the
bloomers. I am heirloom sewing sort of, on a very small scale.

By the way, if that's you Harriet, this is a big thrill for me. I hostessed
your quilting work shop many years ago. I had a really crummy Singer then
that wouldn't quilt. You got me on the way to a better machine, and machine
quilting. Thanks. I was just referring to your Machine Applique book the
other night to see if there were any feet you recommended that I missed. (Can
you tell I am on this foot binge?)

Also, how do all of you store your extra feet? I found a little Plano tackle
box at Walmart that holds three 1630 feet, in the center compartments, and
four small feet, like the darning foot, in the four side compartments. I keep
this in front of my machine. 

Sorry to babble so much. I guess I spent too much time on the Bernina
yesterday, and I off to my studio to work on my quilt....

RobbiE
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 95 07:56:38 -0700
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/1/95

     My dealer has some new keys for the 1630.  The Christmas ones were 
     really cute, and now they have a party theme (champagne glasses, happy 
     birthday, etc.) and I believe animals (I can't quite remember).  These 
     keys look great, but I just can't afford the $80 price tag per key. 
     
     What is the library that you are talking about?
     
     Kari A
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Date: Tue,  7 Mar 95 10:23:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest
 
I once had a quilting teacher who said that if you can't see a mistake from a
galloping horse, it isn't bad enough to take out.:):)
 
Roni
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 07:55:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Machine Quilting

Hmmmm...
Sounds like your top thread somehow jumped out of the tension disks.  Try
rethreading from scratch.

Ida
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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 08:13:14 EST
Subject: RE: Skipped Stitches

Joann,
When I was taught to do free motion quilting, the instructor told
us to take two stitches in the same place in corners. That will
ensure a sharp point by locking the stitches.

k-
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 95 07:26:17 -0700
Subject: Re: Keys for the 1630
     
     I've had problems with the larger motifs also (especially the kitty), 
     but if I use enough stablizer (I really like the iron-on kind on the 
     bottom, and solvy on top) I can get them to come out better.  And 
     since I finally upgraded my machine to the new board, my stitch 
     quality has been 10 times better.  I can't believe what a difference 
     it made! :-)
     
     Hope this helps some.  BTW, I only use the iron-on stabilizer on 
     places where I don't care if I don't remove it all (because it can 
     distort the stitches pulling it out, especially on the motifs - it 
     works pretty well on monograms).
     
     Kari
     Loveland, CO
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 11:38:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Machine Quilting

Hi Beth!
Just a suggestion, but I would guess that the tension is not right in this
seam. The nylon on top will look okay, but on the bottom it doesn't. Make
sure that when you thread the nylon in the top, you thread it on the right
side of the tension disk, not the bottom. Be sure that the foot is up,
s=especially if you are using your knee lift, so that the disks are open when
threading. Then after threading, pull on the nylon with the foot down to make
sure that the thread is properly seated in the tension disks before sewing.
When I see this happen in class, this is what is going on. After a few lines
of quilting, the thread works it's way into the tension properly and the
problem goes away. Might I suggest that you use 100% cotton in your bobbin?
Poly-cotton and polyester thread are extremely hard on cotton fabrics, and do
have the ability to cut the nylon thread, whereas cotton thread is the same
tensile strength as the nylon and they are very compatable. I always work
with two old textile rules of thumb:
1)Use like fiber with like fiber
2) Always use a thread that is weaker than your fabric
Mettler Silk Finish 50 weight/2 ply tread is the best available. Try it and I
know you'll see a big difference in the stitch quality of your 830. Hope this
helps...Harriet
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 11:42:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Installing Elastic

Hi Robbi!
Yes, it is me. I'm so glad that your now using a Bernina! It changes your
sewing life doesn't it? What fun to meet old acquantinces here!
Harriet H
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Subject: Re: Machine Quilting
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 16:58:02 -0500 (EST)

    Hi Beth!
    Just a suggestion, but I would guess that the tension is not right in this
    seam. The nylon on top will look okay, but on the bottom it doesn't. Make

Harriet:

Thanks for the scoop.  I'll try it.

beth
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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 16:07:58 MST
Subject: Harriet Hargrave

I can't believe my eyes...is that the real Harriet Hargrave out there?
If so, just want to say thanks for your wonderful book on machine quilting..
it sits right by my machine and I use it constantly.  
Sincerely,
Sandra M
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Date: Tue,  7 Mar 95 23:26:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 3/6/95
 
Hi everyone.
I just picked up my walking foot for the 1630, but it doesn't look right to me.
 It looks almost the same as my old one, except for the seam guide.  Can
someone tell me what their 1630 walking foot looks like,?  This doesn't have
the two sensors on the side of the foot like the other 1630 feet have.  I paid
$78 for it, and if it is the wrong one, I would like to take it back.  I also
noticed that no where on the box, on the foot, on the instructions does it say
1630.
 
I sewed elastic onto fabric before, using a zig zag stitch.  Narrow hem the
edges, then zig zag the elastic right above it.
 
I store my extra feet in a Longaberger gathering basket with dividers in it.
 
Roni
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:40:53 -0500
Subject: 830 owner

I just got a message and went to print it out to respnd and it went into the
great syberspace. Someone wanted me to send them the oiling diagram for their
mouse in the Bernie. Please repeat your address.Pat R
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 20:12:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest

Roni,

LOL regarding the galloping horse!!

Debby
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 21:01:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/6/95

Roni,
You're right, there is no marking on the box or the foot that says 1630. The
way you can tell is that it look considerably wider than the 1230 foot, and
especially the 930 foot. The 1630 foot does not have the sensors, will not
feed directionally, and only goes to 5mm stitch width. The difference is that
the feeders are wider to match the wider feed dogs of the 1630.
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 21:02:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Installing Elastic

To Robbie--
The dolls sound fun.   Try making a thread "casing" by zz over the elastic;
then when you're done , draw it up and mch tack in place.  
Enjoy!   Ida
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 21:05:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Keys for the 1630

To Sue T;
No, it is not you with the stitch keys. If the kitty is off, try the
Christmas tree. When it is stitched out, both bottom branches should align
exactly. If they don't, the machine is out of balance and needs to be
adjusted by your dealer. This is not an adjustment that you can make. As to
the balance function, it is an adjustment for vertical and horizontal
displacement. There is no set mm, stitch count, or stitch width criteria. If
you use it, you will need to count how many times you have engaged it, and
make a note of it.
 The first 1630's need to be sent in for an update. I will send everyone the
information on the serial numbers that this applies to in the next couple of
days. There is no charge for this update from your dealer if your machine is
one of the serial numbers I will give you. HJHargrave (and Kurt, our
mechanic).
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Subject: Re: Bernina Digest
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 16:23:59 -0500

Hi All Bernie Fans!

To Joann have you tried the needle down and then turn? May be that's to 
simplistic:) I'm kinda that way... 

As far as the books on how to use the heavier threads go, my Bernina dealer 
has flyers (cost $.95) that tell the technics used to do the heavy ribbon 
threads. I have used them once in awhile. The one thing they are very 
helpful for is if you can't figure out what you're doing wrong:)  BTW they 
are published by Bernina.

Beth
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 08:49:34 -0500
Subject: 3 and 5 groove cording foot

At my new owner's club those feet were demoed. I am wondering if any of you
would like to opinionate on these feet. AND have you come up with other
things to use them for besides just cording?They seem to do a great job of
holding down cords while you stitch over them.... but what else. 

Also, for those of you with young girls, I am a Brownie leader, and my moms
love me because whenever they get badges I take them upstairs and sew them on
for the girls. I can also set up a new sash in about five minutes. I use
nylon thread on the top, brown thread on the bottom and zig zag away.

Harriet's answers are another fine example of how great the internet is. We
can sit here in our pajamas, sewing, have a problem and hopefully get an
answer. How nice.

Love RobbiE
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 08:38:10 -0400
Subject: quilting foot

Hi all,

I have an 810 Bernina (and just love it but would take a newer model if I
could afford it) but just recently purchased an bernina even feed foot ( it
was the only one the store had).  How can I tell if it is right for my
machine.  One of the foot feed dogs is right on top of the machine feed dog
and the other foot feed dog just barely touches the machine feed dog.  I
have never owned an even feed foot and thought all were the same.

Thanks for the help.

Marci
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Date: Wed,  8 Mar 95 14:24:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 3/7/95

Roni,
 LOL on the galloping horse!!  Made me grin!
 Since I switched to my darning foot from my #27 foot I have had no problems
with freemotion quilting.  I was having a heck of a time with skipped
stitches, but no more..thank goodness! i just finished a baby quilt made by
my land-guild with a great big stipple pattern.  It turned out well.  So
well that I think I'll do my Amish Swap quilt with a large stipple since the
top turned out so wavy!
 Terri 
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Date: Wed,  8 Mar 95 23:27:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 3/7/95
 
Now that I have calmed down after realizing that it is the wonderful Harriet
Hargrave here with us!, Wow, !!!!!
 
Thanks for the answer to my walking foot question.  It is the right one, I
haven't played with it yet, hoping for a snow storm tomorrow so I can stay home
and play.
 
Harriet, I don't think you will remember me, but we met last year when you came
to Ct., the Nutmeg Quilters Guild.  I took your Saturday workshop, we talked a
little about all of this online fun.  Glad to see you with us.
 
My 1630 just had the upgrade.  what a difference it made!
 
Again, welcome to you.  You will love it here for sure!
Roni G
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 19:55:00 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re:  Heavy Thread

Your info on using the ribbon in the bobbin sounds very interesting.  I
would be very interested in reciving the directions.  Thank you.

Nancy B
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:32:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Quilting Foot

Marci, it sounds like you were sold the wrong foot. Ther are two - one is a
4mm for the older machines, and one is a 5mm for the newer machines. The
feeders of the walking foot should sit right on top of both the feed dogs. I
would take it back and have the dealer order you the '930' walking foot. 
Harriet H
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:37:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/7/95

Everyone here is so friendly and thanks for all the welcomes! My significant
other (Kurt) is our mechanic at the store (and manager, salesman, etc. and
has gotten dragged in on this a few times. I thought that maybe it would be
helpful to have a little technical advice from him. He is an excellent
mechanic and hears more problems than we can all imagine - including from me.
He is more than willing to help if there is ever a need! I'm so glad to have
a Bernina Club on AOL. Since I only quilt, it is fun to see what the rest of
the world is doing with their Bernina's!!
Harriet
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:43:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/7/95

Hi Roni! I do remember you, and you were right, this is a load of fun. I have
had so many quilters try to get me online, and I have fought it. Now I
realize why - all I do is play with AOL instead of write! Not good!!! It is a
fun diversion though. Thanks for the welcome, and good to talk to you again.
Harriet
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 20:42:49 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Installing Elastic

Robbi
I have found that if I use 1/8" elastic for small projects, lock stitch it
at one end of the fabric (do not cut elastic to length buty make a pencil
mark at the length you will want it) then set your zigzag width about 2.5-3.
and sew along WITHOUT catching the sides of the elastic (the stitch forms
the casing).  When you get to the other end of the fabric lo  pull the
elastic until the pencil mark comes to the edge of the babric (that;s
fabric) then lock stitch it and cut the elastic.

Sorry about the typing errors.
Nancy B
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 22:11:00 MST
Subject: RE: 3 and 5 cording foot

My DH gave me the 5 cord foot for xmas (can't remember the foot number and
I am too lazy to go back downstairs to check) but I really like it and
have had a great time playing with it.  Bought some embroidery floss and
made my own braid (5 shades of purple) and it looked great...a real
boon in a town that where braids seem to be non-existent.  I have tried
putting a narrow ribbon in and then closing the clasp...it worked but
I wasn't too thrilled...it was late at night and maybe I just needed
to play with it a bit more.  I'm collecting various yarns etc. to use
with the foot.  My foot purchase this month was the Braiding foot (I
think it is #21 but again am not sure) and I really love this one.
You don't have to worry about the cord, yarn or whatever you are using
You simply move your fabric and the cord follows.  Last night I made
the greatest circles outlining a circular pattern on a fabric with some
really great yarn....well, I am off to bed.
Cheers,
Sandra
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 08:59:01 -0500
Subject: darning foot versus foot #29

My quilts are pretty thin. I baste them using a fusible web on cotton (to
make my own fusible cotton batting). I bought a #29 foot to quilt with, and
the quilt was not held down.  The shaft on the #29 is shorter than on the
regular darning foot (and that one with the cutout), so I would recommend
reserving it for thicker quilts. My shop lets you trade in feet, so I traded
it in for the patchwork foot. But in truth I prefer swinging my needle over
on the 1630 instead of using the patchwork foot.

I got a coupon at my Bernina dealer good for a $25 rebate directly from
Bernina of America. YOu have to buy a machine between 4/94 and 4/95. Of
course, $25 is a drop in the bucket after buying a machine, but I figure it's
a free foot. Ask your dealer about the coupon. 

RobbiE
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:30:08 -0500
Subject: Shell-Ribbon  Decorations

Here is the technique that I mentioned.  Several of you have asked for it,
 others may enjoy.  

SHELL-RIBBON  by  Bernina

Need  2 yd piece of 1/8" satin ribbon , sewing thread to match
(Dble face by Offray is OK)
Works best in designs without corners --oval, round, heart,  flower

Stick the end of the ribbon to the spindle of the bobbin with a tiny piece of
tape (like Scotch
Magic  type)
Wind the ribbon onto the bobbin by hand or hand &mch., taking care to keep
it flat.
Secure the end by stabbing with a pin, then leave it overnight to settle.

Place the bobbin into the bobbincase, threading the end of the ribbon through
the large opening,
bypassing the thread slot and the tension spring.

Set up the machine:   Normal needle    - Long stitch  on  - Stitch W.  0   -St
itch L. 4   -Ndl.Pos.
++right   -Presserfoot  0 or 1    - Upper Tension  VERY TIGHT  ( +7 or 8 or
more)

Turn the fly wheel by hand to bring up the bobbin ribbon, using the thread
loop to coax the ribbon
through the hole of the needle plate.

Place the fabric into position, wrong side up.  Hand wheel the first stitch
or two, then sew around
the design very slowly.   The tails of the ribbon should meet about the beg.
&end of design, then
they tie into a nice bow to finish the decoration.  Knot the thread end in
back, then dot with seam-
sealant to be sure .

Admire and Enjoy !

Other tips:  You might put the fabric in a large mch. embd. hoop for more
stability, as you do for
mch. embd.   830 owners could try the "Magic Needle," since you do not have
the long stitch.
(Ask you dealer)  Newer, softer ribbons now available might work even
better--we could use a
longer piece.

Uses &Ideas:  clothing, picture frames, pillow tops, Xmas ornaments, doll
clothes, pocket &collar
edgings, sachets.  Limit is the 2yd. piece, but you could use more than one
piece in a large
design.  Got any more usage ideas?? Please share.   Thanks,  Ida
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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 11:20:56 EST
Subject: Re: 3 and 5 cording foot

Help - what are you referring to.  This sounds interesting but I am lost.
Rosalie
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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 11:17:43 EST
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/7/95

I love my Bernina but I have a problem getting information on new techniques
and etc.  My dealer is a great repair person but info on Berninas is not a
priority in his life and his wife does the demos and she LOVES Vikings not
crazy about Berninas.  Is there a place to get info on new techniques on a
regular basis?  I really feel left in the dark.  I also have the 1030 machine
so I know that I can not do the computerized techniques but I am sure that my
machine will do more than I know how to do and really wish to learn.

I will be taking my first machine quilting class in Lancaster this year.  I am
looking forward to mastering this techniques.  Rosalie
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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 95 07:33:08 PST
Subject: 3 and 5 groove pintuck foot

          Hi,

          Robbi--when you were talking about the 3 and 5 groove feet,
          did you mean the one that does the pintucking?  I have had
          the most fun with that foot.  Sometimes I use cording and
          sometimes I don't.  I recently made a little girl's dress
          and used the pintuck foot on the bodice.  I drew diagonal
          lines with the water soluble marker in a sort of windowpane
          pattern and then used the pintuck foot over each line.  It
          was the nicest effect (I did the pintucking first and then
          cut out the bodice pieces).    I've also used the pintuck
          foot with some decorative stitches but you have to
          experiment with that to see which of them works.  Using the
          pintuck foot for a slightly decorative hem on knits is a
          nice touch too.  I made a full gathered skirt out of a
          lightweight cotton and used the pintuck foot in the hem
          area--I made about 5 rows of parallel stitching around the
          hem.

          Chris L
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 95 10:45:36 PST
Subject: bernette deco 500
Cc: sue@quilt.com

I was told that the new embroidery machine is made by brother with bernina
housing.  I was  told that by bernina!  My hope is that the machines
come down in price, along with the scanners etc.  $1999 way out of 
line (IMHO).

maggie
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 14:58:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Installing Elastic

I have tried sewing over elastic by stretching it as I sew, but I didn't have
much luck with it. Then I saw (I think it was on Sewing with Nancy) that the
best elastic to use for this is clear elastic - it's made to be sewn through
and then snap back into shape. Sue M.
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 14:59:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/7/95

I too am a big Harriet Hargrave fan and have a question that maybe you or
your husband could answer. I think I read somewhere on AOL that you had the
metal bar taken out of the walking foot so it became like an open toe
applique foot. If this is so I would love to find out about how to do it or
if not I wish someone would ask Bernina to produce such a foot. It would be
so great to be able to really see where the needle is when working with the
walking foot. Sue M.
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 15:43:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Harriet Hargrave

Welcome to Harriet!  

Glad to have you be a part of our Bernina Fan Club.  I took your machine
quilting classes at the West Coast Quilters Conference several year ago.  I
now have a machine quilting business;  I finish the class samples for the
area quilting teachers.  I'm having ALOT of fun!!

My question;  I had the 830 for 16 years, sold it and now have the 1530.
 Loved the 830, ADORE my 1530!  On the 830, my foot pedal, would get so hot
after sewing awhile that the machine would.....stop.  The repair man could
never find a thing wrong with it.  We moved to another state and I took the
foot pedal in (the problem persisted) to that Bernina dealer and he also
never found a thing wrong with it.  I usually waited until the foot cooled
and then we were off again.  The lady I sold the machine to, does not have
any problems with the foot.  She also does not machine quilt for extended
periods.  I don't want to harm my new 1530.  Has Kurt or anyone ever heard of
this happening to others?  

Thank you so much for your help!

Debby
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 15:43:22 -0500
Subject: Re: 3 and 5 cording foot

To Sandra;

"You simply move your fabric and the cord follows.  Last night I made
the greatest circles outlining a circular pattern on a fabric with some
really great yarn."

What are you working on?  Is this embellishment on a quilt or wallhanging?
 You have inspired me to do some embellishment work with the foot. !!  ;D

Debby
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 16:01:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/7/95

Harriet -

You mean people actually use their Berninas for sewing something other than
quilts??!!  They must be the same people who claim that irons are meant to be
used on clothes...

Mia 
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Date: Thu,  9 Mar 95 15:41:41 PST
Subject: Re: skipped stitches

Thanks to everyone who gave me ideas about how to solve my problem of 
stitches skipping.  Yes, Beth, I did have the needle down before changing 
direction and that was when I noticed the machine skipping.  After reading 
Harriet's letter I looked closer and she was right- it skipped an occasional 
stitch here and there and it isn't very noticeable but when you spend so 
much money on a machine you want everything to be ! Anyway, I 
followed her advice to get it cleaned.  My mechanic was very nice to finish 
it in one day.  I noticed after I got it home that it was still skipping so 
when I take it back to get the feed dog knob repaired (another story) I'm 
going to take my letter from Harriet and Kurt with me so that he'll look at 
those specific things that they mentioned.  (BTW, I too was thrilled to hear 
from you, Harriet.  I'm a big fan of your book on machine quilting.)  I'm 
also going to try the advice on taking an extra stitch in the same place to 
lock the stitches before changing direction.  This was my first attempt to 
communicate on the 'net and it was a very positive one, so thanks for all 
the responses.  

JoAnn
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 16:47:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Update Serial # for 1630's

I promised to get the serial numbers to 1630 owners and here they are. If
your 1630 serial number is below 33482814, it needs the update. If your
dealer can't do it himself, the machine will be sent to Chicago for the
mechanics to do it. It makes a huge difference in the machine!
Harriet H
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 16:54:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Quilting Feet

To quilters in Bernina land - if you have had trouble with the #29 quilting
foot flagging or stitches skipping - it is not you. I just got word from
Bernina head office that the #29 foot was designed by the Swiss and they
assume that we still make quilts out of 6oz. polyester batting, so they made
the shank of the foot too short. It does not set on the fabric hard enough
when using the thinner batts to keep the fabric flat, so the needle can bring
the fabric back up with it, causing a skipped stitch. I think that they are
working on correcting the problem, but I don't know what they will do for
those of us who already own one. Hopefully I'll find out at B.U.
Do you have problems with your walking foot hanging up and stalling when you
cross seam when ditch quilting? Do you wish the toe was open so that you
could see better? My mechanic - Kurt - modifies the foot so that it no longer
hangs up and opens the toes so that we can see! I can't believe how long I've
quilted blind and frustrated!! If you would like for him to 'fix' your
walking foot, send the foot and $12.00 to:
Harriet's Treadle Arts
Attn: Kurt
6390 West 44th Avenue
Wheat Ridge, CO   80033
He will return it, ppd and insured within 2 days (barring emergencies).
You'll love it the next time you are quilting those long straight lines!
Harriet H
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 19:07:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest

Hi Sue! I hope my message got through earlier. Kurt (not my husband - my
boyfriend) does this for anyone who needs it. You can send your foot to:
Harriet's Treadle Arts
6390 West 44th Avenue
Wheat Ridge, CO   80033
He charges $12.00, return postage and insurance included. He has about a 2-3
day turnaround, and does and excellent job. Has had tons of practice!
You won't believe what a difference it makes!
Harriet H
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 19:19:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Harriet Hargrave

Hi Debbie!
You asked a really good question, and one alot of 830 owners deal with. What
happens is the 830 foot control has a reostat in it that can wear out, and as
it does it starts to get hot. It will eventually burn out. What you are
feeling is the heat from the electricity as it has nowhere else to go. The
electricity goes through the reostat. The new foot controls are totally
different. Technology has come a long ways since the 830's. Now the reostats
are solid state circuitry and there is noo way for them to get hot. They can
still wear out over time, but you won't feel the heat. Be careful to never
drop the new foot controls. They don't like to be banged around.
Harriet and Kurt
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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 17:21:18 MST
Subject: Re: 3 and 5 cording foot

These two feet have either 3 grooves (used for heavier cords) or 5
grooves.  There is a clasp on top of the foot that opens and swings out.
You lay your threads - one in each groove - close the clasp and begin
sewing .  You can use either a zig zag stitch or one of the decorative
stitches to create various 'braid'..  it is not like the pintucking foot
at all.  It is kind of hard to explain.  If possible, check one out with
a dealer to see or if you have the Bernina accessory folder, they are in
there as well.
Sandra
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 19:22:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/7/95

Does everyone want a laugh on me? I still sew on buttons, do hems (on my
Bernina of course) and Iron all my clothes, including my jeans and
pillowcases. I'm in the dark ages. Must admit that this AOL deal is severly
cutting into my ironing time! I'm addicted. I live to teach and learn, and
what better forum than this!
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 17:29:15 MST
Subject: Re: 3 and 5 cording foot

Actually Debby, I use these feet primarily for embellishment on clothing...
but who knows what else I might try......
Sandra
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 12:11:22 -0500
Subject: Re: BFC and HH

I have just spent about an hour reading all of two days worth of Bernina
Digest! On Line! Is There a way to get it all in one piece, once a day,
rather than numerous individual pieces of mail? That way, I could download
the whole thing at one swell foop and read it later! I am loving the
conversations with Harriet Hargrove. Yes, Harriet, there are those of us out
there who do other things with their Berninas. I love to sew, have tried only
a few quilting pieces that were 'quilting' in the sense that you say
'quilting', ie: joining pieces of fabric together to make yet another fabric
or design. Most of the quilting I have done is of the diamond pattern on silk
or ultrasuede when I make Chanel-style handbags or silk jackets. I love the
look of that kind of 'quilting' in wearables! I think I am afraid to start
'quilting-style quilting' because I'll love it and then I'll never get
anything done!! Harriet, I think you are kindness epitomized for the time you
are spending giving advice and help. Are you planning to give any classes in
the Boston/New England area in the near future? I am attached to Ann's
Fabrics (Ann Sullivan in Canton) at the hip :), They are terrific people
there and I am devoted to Ann, Robin and Mary. John's pretty wonderful too!
and Andrew, the repair man is great. This is a fabulous forum, now, let's get
someone from Bernina on-line and we'll be al set. BTW did everyone see the
section of Robbie Fannings Open Chain Newsletter on Bernina's last month! It
was a scorcher, with the Bernina reps attitude being "too bad, it's the way
it is!" Not what I expected of Bernina. I happen to be devoted to my 1630,
but being a MAC person, I'm annoyed at the lack of Bernina connection to
Macs. Oh Well, tomorrow is Ann's Fabrics annual Sewing Seminar at LaSalle
College in Newton, 2 days of sewing and 1 day of Sandra Betzina!! Cheers!
LCW
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 10:47:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Quilting Foot

Rats! Talk about a day late and a dollar short! This (hanging up and stalling
at seams) was EXACTLY my problem. So, now, a week after the darned walking
foot leapt to its death off of my sewing table, I find out that Kurt could
have fixed it for $12. I am calling my dealer today to see if they still have
the walking foot for the 801 and if so I will probably send it off for
plastice surgery. I'm so frustrated with Bernina anyway right now that the
idea of spending $100 really fries me but I need to quilt. Much gnashing of
teeth!!
BTW, Harriet, what is your opinion of the 1260? I want to upgrade in the fall
to that level machine. Will the walking foot for the 801 work on it? I am not
buying two. When you do free motion do you use the darning foot, the open
darning foot, or the open embroidery foot? I have your book - I should go
look it up. 
I have to go call my dealer - can you imagine how that must sound to someone
outside this list?
Kathy
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 10:52:35 -0500
Subject: "real sewing"

When I was in high school I sewed some of my own clothes, and in college I
always sewed dresses for dances. Once I graduated though, I mostly gave up.
My husband had watched all this sewing in college, and when we were at a
store buying cloth for me to make an "interview suit" he disapeered and came
back with my first pair of Ginghers. He has gotten used to me hating to mend
though, and mostly using my machines for quilting and sewing window
treatments. I even have a t-shirt that says "Asking a quilter to mend is like
asking Van Goph to paint your garage". But after he bought me a 1630 he came
up to my studio, looked around the room, eyed the serger, and said "You know,
there is about $4000 worth of equipment in here, do you think you could use
some of it to sew a new button on these pants?" So now I mend. But I make him
stand there and watch while I ooh and aah over the special Bernina feet I
use. 

I do not iron clothes though, unless I really have too. I think it is worth
spending $1 per shirt to take them to the cleaners where they "press" them.

I thought Harriet's commentary on the #29 foot was really interesting.  

My next question, is the walking foot worth it, (including the price to get
Kurt to modify it) for other sewing besides straight line quilting? I do free
motion. 

And further, there is a difference between the cording feet and the
pintucking feet. The pintucking feet are made to accomodate a "tunnel" BELOW
the fabric, while the cording feet hold the cords ABOVE the fabric. Thanks to
all of you for responding to my request for uses for these feet. There were
so many uses for some of the other feet, I was hoping some of you had 56 ways
to use a cording foot. I am being more careful to get more bang for my
Bernina buck.

And lastly, on new ways to use our Bernina's, as someone requested, it seems
this is a great forum to share new techniques, especially from those who can
go to Bernina clubs. 

Thanks to all of you for your cheery communications.

Love RobbiE
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 95 10:01:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 2/28/95

It is really unfortunate that Bernina is not going to write software for
the Mac.  In my opinion, the company is missing an opportunity to marry the
best personal computer graphics source with its phenomenal machine.

Lynette E
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 10:24:35 -0500
Subject: Overcasting on thin stretchy silk

I have yet to find out which stitch will actually overcast the edges of
very thin guazy (sp)
slightly stretchy silk.  I have been trying out all of the stitches on my
1130 and none of them
seem to work satisfactorily.

Any suggestions for feet/stitches??

Thanks

Lisa
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 95 01:41:00 UTC
Subject: to Harriet H.

Harriet,
 Thanks so much for the address.  I am definitely going to send my walking
foot to Kurt in the near future.  Since you are a Bernie dealer I thought I
would ask....I do a lot of doll/bunny clothes which call for a lot of
gathering.  Are the Bernina gathering foots good for this?  And I know there
are two of them, which one is best for doll clothes?
 
I have your machine quilting book and as far as everyone is concerned, you
are the Machine Quilting Guru.  I am really happy to be able to talk to you
here on the internet...too cool...
 
I don't hand quilt at all..no patience and carpal tunnel syndrome ...so I
machine quilt.  One of these days I'll have to take a class!
 
Terri
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 08:45:56 -0500
Subject: Re: 3 and 5 cording foot

To Robbie:

Are those the 3 and 5-groove feet?  What are the numbers?  I need a little
more information  to help you.

If all of us will use Bernina's  numbers when referring to the  feet, it will
help.  Even the older ones have numbers.

Thanks, Ida
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 00:18:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Quilting Foot

Kathy - Glad you asked about the walking foot before you upgrade. No, the
walking foot for the 801 and the 1260 are not interchangeable. The feed dogs
on the 801 are 4mm and the 1260 are 5mm. That makes the spacing of the
feeders on each walking foot different, as well as the shank spike spacing
when attaching the foot.
As to the 1260 - I LOVE IT! Truthfully, I do a great deal of my quilting on
my 930 - which I would never part with. It is a dream. But I do need the
computer stitches for some applique techniques. When Bernina ships machines
in for my classes, I request 1260's, and the students really enjoy working on
them. They are super user friendly - like Macs. You would not regret
upgrading!
Harriet
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 01:08:58 -0500
Subject: Satin stitching and baskets

Hi all!

Oh no, another use for a Longaberger basket...well, looks like I'm going to
host another party to get a few more baskets for myself. :-)).  A question.
 I'm trying to get my satin stitching to work properly.  I use a 1031 and I
know I'm doing something wrong.  I've been seeing references to stabilizers.
 How do you use it?  I've always done patchwork quilts and I am starting to
machine applique.

I think it's wonderful Harriet Hargrave is on our list, I'll be taking a
class from you on June 1st (Molly Pitcher Stitchers in NJ). :-)))))

Piece in peace,

Pat O
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 07:29:53 -0500
Subject: Bernina Internet Mail Downloads on AOL - Mac Version

You don't have to read your mail online. You can download it all online in
what's callled a "flash session", read the message boards or do whatever else
you want to, then sign off AOL and read your mail then, after you have signed
off. 

To do so:
If you are using AOL software version 2.51, you go under Mail, choose
"Activate FlashSession Now", you will automatically download all of your mail
at once. After you sign off AOL, go back under Mail, and choose "Read
Incoming Mail" to read your messages one by one. This significantly reduces
you online time. It doesn't help with the time that you spend reading the
message boards.

If you are using AOL software version, "Activate FlashSession Now" is under
the "Go To" menu, and  proceed as above ("Read Incoming Mail" is under the
"Mail" menu).

Hope this helps. Our Mac Club meeting is this morning so I need to get going.
We're supposed to get some semi-warm weather this weekend, finally! Three
cheers!!!

Marianne
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 08:14:09 -0500
Subject: 1630 software

I'm interested in the 1630 software and what it can do.  I'm also interested
in whether I can use the PC software on my Mac using my Soft Windows program
on the Mac.  I have a PC and a Power Mac 8100, but my scanner is connected to
the Mac.  Has anyone tried this combo?  Is there some number to call for help
on the package that I could check it out?

And, what could I do with the software once I get it.  I've heard that you
could do quilting patterns, but if it's limited to the 45mm size, they'd only
be good for minis (and mini minis at that!)  Can someone who has the software
and has had some experience with it tell us all what it's capable of?
 Thanks.

Barb M
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 10:02:41 -0500
Subject: Real  SEWERS

Here's praise and encouragement to those of us who sew other things AND quilt
!

Before I began to quilt seriously, my quest was to sew or "make" everything
possible.  Especially everything I wore.
Well almost everything except shoes ( and I even made some house-shoes.)  If
it could be made of fabric, I wanted to do it and do it well.  And sew I
did!!!  
The Bernina makes it ALL possible--quilting AND other sewing!
There are still those of out here that still say "SEW "  to everything.

BTW---does your machine do the Frog stitch??  
rippit-rippit-rippit

Enjoy!  Ida
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 10:43:59 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: 1630 Software

Gene,
You most certainly can adjust the stitch size with the software!  I have 
had it since Xmas and it is quite user friendly.  Of course you have to 
change the default size from 30mm by 30 mm to about 10mmby 30mm for 9mm 
stitches.  I know that probably doesn't make sense but it WORKS!  Go 
ahead and get the sfotwre if you feel comfortable running it on your 
Mac-PC setup.  Can't help you there because I have an IBM!

Mary Ann
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 12:59:24 -0500
Subject: China silk crinkle skirt

I just learned how to make a crinkle skirt from china silk at Bernina Club.
 The interesting part is the hem.  Use the 4mm hemmer foot
#64 - the best for a silky fabric (second choice #66).  Use a glue stick to
get the hem started about 1/2 inch, topstitch that and stop with needle down,
then lift pressure foot and wiggle (tweezers) the fabric into the foot, lower
pressure foot and you're off!  When you hit a seam, just topstitch that sectio
n and then start again once you are past it.  Very Important:
use a stiffener on the edge of china silk to be hemmed - suggested
"PerfectSew".  It makes it stiff enough to easily work with.  Thread some
gimpe through the finished hem (leaving a 1/4" opening).  You can use this
like a drawstring when washing or storing the skirt to keep the crinkles in
good shape.  Store in two layers (legs) of support stockings.  Perfect for
travel.  I  bought the material but haven't made the skirt yet.  I tried the
 #64 foot on some cotton without stiffener and it worked great.  I am amazed
at the luxury of all these wonderful Bernina feet!
                              Lynn F
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 14:30:24 -0500
Subject: reading off line


In america on line we have something called Flash sessions that does this
FAST but i don't know about your service. It probably is POSSIBLE and worth
finding out about.
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 19:13:32 -0500
Subject: Heavy Thread in the bobbin

Hi there , I have just revised my hand out and will get it out to everyone
who requested it. I hope it helps . This is such a great way to add texture
to your work. Pat R
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 95 08:59:07 -0500
Subject: Re: 1630 Software

Gene,

Please let me know if the Bernina software does run under soft windows on
the Mac.  I too have a Mac 8100 and a Bernina 1630.

Lynette
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 95 09:35:08 -0500
Subject: Another Annoyed Mac person

I must ditto the concerns of other Mac/1630 owners who are annoyed that
Bernina is not providing us with software.  We have the ultimate graphical
environment on our computers, particularly the Power Macs (have a 100 Mega
Hertz Power Mac 8100 and an Bewrnina 1630). But alas, we cannot interface
the ultimate personal graphics workstation to the ultimate computer driven
sewing machine.  Creative expression may be thwarted for a growing subgroup
of the Bernina community.


Lynette E
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Subject: Re: Miracle stitch attachment
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 10:50:01 -0500 (EST)

Kathy S writes:
>I don't know anything about the attachment, but you shouldn't need it for
>your Pfaff. On my Pfaffs I use the "knit edge foot" which is a plastic foot
>with a large groove in the center.  It enables me to couch all kinds of
>decorative threads, from perle crown rayon to heavy yarns, to piping.  And
>you do work from the top. (snip)

To my friends in Berninaland:

This came over the wire via another list I am on.  Please help 
me.  What foot would we use on our Berninas?  Mine is an 830.

beth^
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Subject: Harriet's Books
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 11:04:16 -0500 (EST)

Good Morning!

Okay, help me out folks.  I think I am going to HAVE to have the 
books you all have been talking about:  Harriet's books on 
machine quilting.  Could somebody please list the name(s) of 
these books.  Sounds like I need to purchase more. . . .

Thanks bunches!

beth^
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 14:58:54 EST
Subject: Re: Quilting Foot

Kathy - I may have a walking foot for your 801.  I need to look at the foot
when I get home.  I have upgraded and it does not fit my machine so I may be
interested in selling it.  Let me know if you would even be interested.
Rosalie 
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Subject: 1630 Software
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:12:50 +0800 (WST)

Hi everyone from Perth where its sunny , warm and not yet Autumn despite what
the calendar says.

I went to my 1630 upgrade class and the topic was the 1630 software.  I think
that I can answer some of the questions that have been asked recently.

1. Image size - maximum is 100 mm (3.93in) width and 200 mm (7.87in) height.
The default is 30mm by 30 mm.  If you go over 40mm by 60mm there is a warning
message that you will have to be very careful when sewing this as uneven fabric
feed can occur and this will cause the design to be uneven or not to close off.
I think that we have all experienced this with the large motifs.

2. Machine requirements -- it requires an IBM compatible computer (386 or
higher) with Windows 3.0 or higher with an empty serial interface. I don't know
mmuch about MACS but if a Mac can emulate these conditions it "should" work.

3. Sewing machine requirements -- If you want to be able to store designs on
the machine so that you can sew your designs without being connected to the
computer, you need to have a 1630 version 2.  You can tell what version you
have by looking in the stitch designer and looking what widths of designs are
availble to you. If you can only design in one width (9mm) you have a version
one; if you can design 9,18,27,36,45mm you have version 2. You also need
version to in order to be able to transfer deigns to memory keys for storage.

4.  What can it do? -- It(but don't have to) import *.bmp files as your basic
picture and then select the stitchews you want to use to sew hte design.  There
are four stitches available: straight stitch, triple stitch, zigzag, and and
manual stitch (straight connecting stitch between two stitches (ie good for
infill or for start and finishing in the place you want to be).  You can also
chose how the design points are connected -- straight lines or smoothly. This
feature really speeds up designing!

The advantages of the software (over the built in stitch designer) that I see
are: 1. You can enlarge the design screen large enough to work with.
2. You can select stitches other than straight.
3. You can design larger than 45mm.
4. You can have smoother curves.
5. You can cheat and import clipart.

There was s.  The Bernina people here have been playing with storing computer
to use the stitch designer.  AS a fix they have been tranfering the "designs"
of a blank key to clear the memory.

I find the software easy to use but the documentation is pretty terse as ate
the online help screens.  The Bernina Sales Rep here is doing really well
considering that she had never even turned on a computer before this came out.
I'm getting together with her later this month to try some more advanced stuff.

On Another note, they showed all the 1630 feet that are out besides the ones
that come with the machine;  They are:
Edgestitch (10), Piping (12, gaathering (16), 16 dorection foot(41), teflon
zigzag (57) and Ruffler (86).  The 16 diection foot was really neat . You could
turn the foot in the direction you were sewing so that it was easier to go over
"bumps in fabrc!

Sorry for the long message,
Kay L
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 18:19:20 MST
Subject: RE: Miracle Stitch Attachment

The #21 foot (called a braiding foot) allows you to feed yarns, cords etc
from the top.  You do not have to hold onto the cord...simply manoveur (sp?)
your fabric.  This is the foot I mentioned last week where I outlined
shapes on fabrics using some really neat yarn.  I watch Shirley Adams
every weekend and she uses this technique quite often.  The foot she
uses functions exactly like #21.
Sandra M
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:18:44 -0500
Subject: 1630 software running under Mac

Several people have written the forum or me without answers but also having
interest in whether the 1630 software will run under Soft Windows on the Mac.
 Soft Windows (the current version) will only work if the software doesn't
require 386 enhanced mode of Windows to run.  (Is it even a Windows program?)
 If it is a DOS program, the chances are probably better.  Does anyone out
there have the software and have some telephone number I could call (the
support number, for example), so I can call and find out what the expert
source says?  If so, please email me, and I'll find out for sure and get back
to everyone.  Thanks.

Barb M
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:34:22 -0500
Subject: Just dropping by...

greetings all!

Boy, I leave for a vacation and come back to a Bernina party!!!  It was
great to catch up on the last 10 days of this list.  I had a great time in
New Orleans.  I was even able to do some fabric shopping :)  .  One area
where I found the city rather  limited is in teh field of sewing machine
dealerships, notably Bernina dealerships.

Harriet, is it true that Bernina is now requiring it's dealers to sell
Bernina exclusively?  I've heard this from several dealers, many of which
are now dropping the Bernina line. 


BTW, can someone send me the digest of the list  for 3/12 ? It seems like it
did not make it to my mailbox.  Thanks.

Finally, the countdown is on:  I'm picking my 1230 this coming Saturday.
CAN'T WAIT!

Sylvain
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:25:06 -0500
Subject: hi, Harriet


Just wanted to add my "hi" to Harriet Hargrave.  I took your class on 
machine quilting in Carmel, IN, through Quilt Quarters in the summer of '92.
(Gee, doesn't time fly?)  Anyway, Harriet, I was the one with the Pfaff
Tiptronic 1171 and could *not* get that darned machine to do free form
machine quilting with the nylon thread.  You even tried to do it and suggested
I take it back to the dealer for adjusting.  I did.  Nada. zip.  I then sent
it to Pfaff in New Jersey and they returned it claiming all was in good
working order.  It *still* would not do what I wanted.  

After taking your class and watching everyone get great results, I was sold
on Bernina.  And then when Quilt Quarters became a dealer, that was it.  So,
at Quilt American in 1993, I bought a 1530 and I love that machine.  I also
have the 2000DE serger.

And now a question.  Harriet, you mentioned you still iron everything.  May I
ask what iron and ironing board cover do you recommend?  I take Threads
magazine and they did an article (or maybe it was a letter from a reader?)
on ironing board covers, so I sent away for some of the catalogs they listed.
I don't want to personally design an ironing board cover, but I certainly am
not happy with mine.  And my iron!!  Let's just say, I'm due for a new one.
I am primarily a quilter, but when I iron clothes (pants, especially), I like
for them to look good and with no shine, if at all possible.

Thanks for any suggestions and welcome to Bernina Club.

Ida M. T
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:50:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Another annoyed Mac Person

To Lynette E: 

Hi,

I think that Deanox (a consulting company?) supports the Bernina Design
Software here in the US for Bernina. They have an Email address on AOL

Maybe they can tell us where to direct our responses. In the meantime, this
was Dean's response to my question to him a month ago:
BTW, can someone send me the digest of the list  for 3/12 ? It seems like it
>did not make it to my mailbox.  Thanks.

Just wanted to let everyone know.  There was no mail on the 12th.  It happens 
that way once in awhile.  Please do let me know if you think you aren't 
receiving the mail. Once in awhile, mail will bounce or be delayed, but some 
days, I guess we need a break.  Hope everyone is enjoying the list.  So glad I 
started it.  I've learned so much since I started it.  For the newer members, I 
am in no way "offically" associated with the Bernina company.  Just a fan who 
wanted to get in touch with other Bernina users.  If I was associated with 
Bernina, I'd have them working on Mac software : )

Sue T
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 11:23:43 -0500
Subject: Help please

Does anyone have this problem? I can machine quilt and have a good stitch.
 My problem is when I change the bobbin during my project (run out of
thread).  I get loops and very loose stitching every once in a while and
can't figure out why.  I don't change any adjustments and I continue with the
same thread I've been using..  Any comments or suggestions would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Jennifer
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 95 12:54:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Another Annoyed Mac Person

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you.

Lynette E
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 20:07:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Another annoyed Mac Person

Friends
Ditto, ditto.
As a new purchaser of a Bernina I did NOT buy either computerized high
end machine because I'm not about to inconvenience myself with an IBM!

Nancy B
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 08:24:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/12/95

Hello everyone and welcome back to Sylvain!

I also did not receive the 3/12/95 Bernina Digest, could someone send it to
me, please?

Thank you in advance!

Debby L
We don't watch for the groundhog to see
his shadow for Spring to be right around the corner - We use Hi-Tech!  The
buzzards!  Yes!  Were they seen in Hinckley, yet?

 The turkey buzzard's arrival is based on the legend that they returned to
the NE Ohio area in the spring of 1819 to dine on carcasses left over from
the great Hinckley Township hunt the previous December.  Every March 15 at
6:30 AM a Cleveland Metroparks ranger arrives at the buzzard roost area to
seek out the first bird.  (Isn't this interesting?!?)  Weather plays a role
in the spotting.  If it's warm, the buzzards' feathers dry faster and make
for an early spotting.  If it's raining or cold and drizzling, it's going to
be a late spotting.  The procedure is:  when a buzzard is spotted, someone
hollers "Buzzard", looks at his/her watch and calls the buzzard hotline,
which gives updates on the sightings!  Many people, all over the U.S., have
contests about when the first buzzard will be spotted in Hinckley!  The
perfect sign that spring is approaching!  ;D  LOLROF     
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 08:28:13 -0500
Subject: Good news for Mac &1630 owners

Thanks to MarianneY's recent post, I contacted Mark Jensen at Deanox
and asked about whether the 1630 software would run under Soft Windows on the
Mac and thus be a solution for us Mac users.  The news is good!  Here's his
reply (posted with his permission).  Also, I told him about the Bernina Club,
and he may join us so he can answer our questions directly on the list.

< Subj:	Re: Bernina 1630 software
 will run the Bernina software with
your CURRENT copy of softwindows. 

 Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 11:04:11 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Machine Quilting ????
> 
> When machine quilting/stippling w/nylon thread... (I'm using an 1130)...
> what is the best tension I should be using?... I never seem to get it
> right...
> --Judy

Judy:  Take a piece of fabric, batting and backing approximately 12 by 
4 inches, and begin to test your tension with it.  Mark alon the side 
with a long piece of masking tape with spaces numbered 1 thru 10 about an 
inch apart.  Start sewing at one, with your tension set at 1.  When you 
get to 2, se your tension to 2, etc til you get to ten.  Then take it out 
of the machine and see where the tension is the best and set it for that 
number.  If I'm doing something unusually thick or thin, i test like this 
to be sure I've got the right tension.  Incidentally, this is not my 
original technique, but Cathy K learned it in a class.  I can take 
no credit!!

Martha
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 11:32:52 -0500
Subject: New edition of Heirloom Machine Quilting

Thanks for all the interest!!!! I just returned home for a week of teaching
in the Dallas - Ft. Worth area, and my mail box was overflowing. It book was
requested so many times that I thought I needed to post it again. The book is
now hard backed and spiral bound, and retails for $27.95 + $3.00 postage.
If you are interested in ordering an autographed copy, send a check or credit
card number to:
Harriet's Treadle Arts
6390 West 44th Avenue
Wheat Ridge, CO   80033
(303) 424-2742
I hope you all enjoy it. It is still the most complete work on machine
quilting available, and has an excellent track record for helping quilters
become great machine quilters! Thanks everyone!!!  Harriet H
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 11:33:03 -0500
Subject: Just stopping by.......

I am not an authority on Bernina policy - especially since it changes
regularly and can often look like favoritism - but there is nothing written
that you have to be exclusive to Bernina to have - or retain- a dealership.
Naturally, they would prefer that, and I agree. I find it confusing how a
dealer can sell several brands equally. I have a passion for Bernina, and my
belief in the machine allows me to stand behind the product and sell it
convinced that the customer is getting the best there is. I am in many
dealerships that are loyal to one brand, and use the others to sell against.
This is very unfair to the other brands. This is why Bernina prefers that you
are exclusive. They want their machine to be up front and center, not just
one of the lineup. We do have stiff requirements to become as well as stay a
Bernina dealer, and quotas to meet - that go up every year. If a dealer has
several lines, and are not making their quotas, I would venture a guess that
they are not "giving" up the dealership, but are loosing it to contract
fulfilment problems. Bernina is always searching out dealers that want to
show their product s #1. Good business move. Bernina is still the coveted
dealership to have in the industry.
These are just my opinions ....... Harriet
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 11:34:31 -0500
Subject: open toe walking feet

To Judy and all others that missed the first posting -After years of teaching
quilting with walking feet, I found that if the piece of metal that lays in
front of the needle on the walking foot is removed - your vision improves
100%, and so does your straight line quilting. Let me explain.
When ditch quilting, it is critical that the needle be 'in' the ditch, and
the needle so close to the seam that it rubs. With the foot closed, it is
very difficult to see and control this. If you put your foot down on the feed
dogs, then put the needle into the machine, you will see that the line that
marks the center of the walking foot is not aligned with the needle. If you
quilt using the line on the foot to guide you down the seam, the needle will
not be stitching where the line is riding. Therefore, you are not 'stitching
in the ditch'. If you try looking over the metal bar, you have very limited
vision of where you are going. By removing the metal, you can see the seam
well in front of you, as well as see the needle and easily position it in the
ditch correctly and have perfect ditch quilting. It works like a dream! 
Anyone that would like to have this done contact Kurt at
Harriet's Treadle Arts
6390 West 44th Avenue
Wheat Ridge, CO   80033
(303) 424-2742
He charges $12.00, which includes insured return postage. There is usually a
1 - 2 day turnaround once he receives the foot. He has done dozens and dozens
of all brands, but especially Berninas, and has never had a complaint or
regret yet. 
Harriet H
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 11:34:47 -0500
Subject: Stippling tension

Judy - got your message and I don't think that I can answer it the way you
would like. There is no perfect setting for any particular stitch. It is a
balancing act with 'your' machine. Have you tried the new Schmetz quilting
needles? Try one of the size 75 needles. That will leave a smaller hole, and
the bobbin thread is less likely to show. I also tend to use a backing that
is a color that compliments the top. If I have a lot of dark in the top, I
don't want a light backing. The light bobbin thread is too hard to control
when quilting in the dark areas on top. I use only Sew Art International .004
nylon in top (when using nylon), and 50weight Mettler Silk finish in the
bottom. I reduce my top tension to 4, and generally tighten my bobbin just a
bit. If tension scares you, read page 30 of my Mastering Machine Applique
book. It goes into detail on how to adjust your bobbin tension. It is
foolproof. I have found that just adjusting the top is often not enough. If
you overdo it, you still see bobbin thread, but get loops on the bottom. If
you just thread through the hole in the finger of the bobbin case, it is
often too tight. There is always a happy medium. You might also check to see
if the nylon is on the spool pins. I do not put the thread on the machine, as
it creates a bit too much drag and stretching of the nylon. I put it behind
the machine, run it through the thread guide in the handle of the machine,
then thread. Also, if you will thread the nylon on the RIGHT side of the
tension disk, you get much more accurate tension. Try all these things. Hope
it helps!
Harriet H
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 11:33:08 -0500
Subject: Irons

Hi Ida - and all you other ironing fanatics like me! In answer to your
question, I use the Bernette irons. I especially like the new one that came
out last year. I used to sell Rowentta, but they were constantly coming back
for one problem or another - mainly leaking. We dropped them soon after
Bernina came out with their irons. They are made by T-Fal and are very good
quality. What I really want is one of the industrial irons that have the
water tank that hangs from the ceiling, and the iron is just an old-fashioned
flat iron - and very heavy. That is next on my list. These irons give out
wonderful steam, and are heavy, so ironing is even easier. They are made to
stay on all day, and water is never 'in' the iron, so problems do not occur.
What I would give for my mothers old mangle. I also use my Elna Press for
quilting and linen napkins. Great tool!
Harriet
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 16:11:30 -0500
Subject: I Need Needback on a Bernina Presser Feet  Project

Greetings fellow Bernina friends!

I  have been developing an idea for a project that has to do with Bernina
presser feet.  I would appreciate your feedback very much, as Bernina
owners/instructors,etc.  If you know of anyone at Bernina you think I should
talk to, please let me know.  

If you can reply to me directly, that will make things easier.  It will also
reduce traffic on the list (which I wouldn't  want to 'hijack' for a
personal project).  I plan on reporting to the list on the feedback I receive.


What I have in mind could be called an 'Encyclopedia' of presser feet.  I
know of different existing sources of documentation to explain the use of
Bernina feet (Jan Saunder's chapter in her Step-by-Step Guide to your
Bernina, Bernina's own 'Footsteps' leaflets and the information in the
advanced guide workbook).  While I have found much useful info in these
publications, I have observed that it is a bit 'scattered' (one has to
consult several of them  to get around all one wants to know). For instance,
Jan Saunders book does not cover all the feet, many dealers don't have all
the foot and/or brochures available (and btw, the leaflets often don't go
into enough detail to explain how the foot really  works, therefore not
completely informing the user; they also often don't have all the feet
either) and the workbook focuses on techniques, not on feet.

I would like to develop a presser foot reference that includes all the feet
(with periodic updates), providing an exact description of the foot
(drawings or pictures) from top/bottom (and maybe side) perspectives,
pointing at the 'working principle' for each foot, visually explaining how
it works, not just how to use it.   In the 'how to use it' area, I would
like to have included not only the 'official' use(s) for each foot, but
alternate applications for which a foot is well suited.

I would envision such an encyclopedia to have a companion video (or series
of videos; possibly one for the 'basic' set of feet that come with many
machines: feet #0 - #9, and other videos on 'groups' of feet by 'type':
embroidery, hemmers, etc). I believe it  would be a great educational tool
in showing how a foot works and how  to use it (with a demo).  This I expect
would be a valuable resource both for dealers (who could loan/rent  it out)
and of course, for users, many of whom would gladly buy such  reference
material if affordable in price (as you probably know, many Bernina owners
live more than an hour away from any dealership, making it difficult to
visit our dealer, attend Nina Club events, etc.).

I have drafted a more detailed outline of what I envision.  I tried to keep
it succinct here.   I'll be happy to give you more details if you need.
Can you tell me what you think of the idea?  Would this be a valuable
resource to dealers and seamsters?   How likely you think such a project may
come to fruition?  Who should I contact at Bernina of America?

BTW, my main occupation at this time is Instructor in the Training Program
of Cornell University's Information Technologies unit.  (I help people tame
their computers and exorcise demons when necessary :) .  I am a self-taught
seamster who 'got hooked' 10 years ago (mainly in garment construction) and
have taken a keen  interest in  finding out how the machine (and feet)
works. I have been asked several times on the Internet (News groups) to
contribute 'explanations' on why a foot works better than another for a
certain task (we recently had a discussion on why #10 is better than #5 for
top/edgestitching).  Training is my calling and sewing is my passion.  I'd
like to combine the two!

 I could afford my first Nina two years ago and what a joy has it been to
'graduate'.  Now I'd like to move forward in helping others who like to
learn more about their (wonderful) tool.

Thank you for your time.

Sylvain 
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 20:25:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:Machine Quilting??

Martha, thanks for the pointers! Having seen Cathy's beautiful quilting in
person, I am glad to take any tips she offers! Her work is among the best
I've even seen anywhere!  --Judy
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 95 07:28:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/16/95

     Hi Roni,
     
     I have this problem with the bobbin thread also.  It's really 
     frustrating after having the 1230 that I could use to topstitch from 
     the top or the bottom.  The only thing I've found that helps is to 
     tighten the top tension.  Hope this works for you (and I hope they 
     figure out how to fix it!).
     
     Kari
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 08:41:49 -0500
Subject: Re: I need Feedback on a Bernina Presser Foot Project

Have you seen Mary Lou Null 's Series on Bernina feet and accessories? See if
you would add to that wealth of information.       Pat R
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 08:44:11 -0500
Subject: Re: I need Feedback on a Bern...

yesdoityesdoityesdoityesdoityesdoityesdoit!!!
I will reserve my copy NOW!!
Mary Beth
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Subject: Re: I need Feedback on a Bernina Presser Foot Project
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 08:23:39 -0800 (PST)

Sylvain,

I think you have an excellent idea.  I would definitely
buy this product if it were available.  I am quilter not
a sewer, so altho I am very good at straight stitching,
anything else really confuses me.

If you want to "idiot proof" your manual, I could be
your idiot, at least at first.  
-- 
Jennifer
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 12:52:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Machine Quilting

On Mon, 20 Mar 1995, Bernina wrote:

> Martha, thanks for the pointers! Having seen Cathy's beautiful quilting in
> person, I am glad to take any tips she offers! Her work is among the best
> I've even seen anywhere!  --Judy

Blush....thank you so much for the compliment, Judy.

Cathy
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Subject: 1260 price
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 95 15:05:37 EST

I have an opportunity to trade my 1020 (which I really love, and is only 2
1/2 yrs. old) in for a new 1260. Because I am not familiar with this
model, I am asking for feedback from current users. I could buy a 1090,
but because the dealer is offering a trade on my, and the thought of
paying less sales tax is appealling.....my 1020 and $1600 for the
1260.....a new 1630 price quote at $2100. I just can't afford the "big
jump." at this point........

Theresa G
Thanks all!
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 12:17:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: I need Feedback on a Bernina Presser Foot Project

Sylvain:  I think it's a great idea to write an encyclopedia of feet.  I 
recently bought a pin tuch foot, and had to go to G-Street to figure out 
how to use it.  The instructions were very minimal.  I'm interested in 
other feet, primarily for decorative uses like surface design on quilts, 
but I don't know where to start.  I hope your idea takes off.

Martha
1530 user
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 08:11:04 -0500
Subject: My hand out on Heavy Threads

I have had several requests with only email addresses....   I quess I am not
clever with the computer to get the file sent. I can send it to you
snail.....    As for what you can send me in return, I am doing a garment for
Fairfield Fashion Show and am collecting copper or bronze fabrics, threads
and ribbons. A bit or scrap is cool. Not a requirement, just a thought. I
hope you enjoyed the hand out and I would love to hear how or what you did
with it.  Pat R
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 10:40:16 -0500
Subject: Re: 1260 Price

To  Teresa G:
Go for it!!  I think you'd really love the 1260.  And be sure to take the
Guide lessons for it--its LOTS more machine than the 1020.  Best one for
quilters!

Ida T
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 10:44:45 EST
Subject: Re: I need Feedback on a Bernina Presser Foot Project

Sylvain - good luck with your idea.  I have not idea how to promote this but
it is a great idea.  My Bernina dealer is a good repair shop but lacking on
the information end.  I have a problem with buying a machine of this quality
and price and not receiving adequate information on how and what the machine
can really do.  I personally do not have time to hang around the dealer
waiting for information on the new feet and etc.  Hope you are our salvation.
Rosalie
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:08:32 -0500
Subject: bernina feet feedback

Sylvain,

I think you have a *wonderful* idea. I don't do much of embroidery/heirloom
projects
 in the Bernina Guidebook so I can't justify the $ for it. Consequently,  
 I miss out on the presser feet
information it contains. The Bernina "Footworks" are pretty cursory. I also
find that feet are referred to  by many alternate
names. It gets confusing to want a foot to insert corded piping, then
finding out that Bernina's "piping" foot only accepts uncorded piping and
that there is the foot that you would use for corded piping is called
something else.  I particularly like you idea to add alternative uses, like
using the tailor tack foot for faux-faggotting, etc. I'd also like to see
the 3 Creative Feet and other feet that can be used on a Bernina included,
as I'm not clear if their functionality overlaps or not with Bernina's line
of feet.
Julia S
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:38:39 -0500
Subject: Talking of presser feet...

Bonjour!

Last night, I was putting my 'brand new' used 1230 through its paces,
testing its quality of stitching (surprise! it passed the test :) and I
noticed that the 5  year old presser feet looked 'dirty'.  They had lost
their shine.  Well, dig in the trash can (always between 'Nina and 'Nette)
and good ole muslin scraps to the rescue.  Interestingly enough, foot #7
(tailor tack) had some corrosion on it (greenish flecks).  And foot #1 had a
nice gouge along the underside (i suspect the previous owner sewed over one
pin too many...), running about 1/2 the foot's length.

Well, here come Crocus cloth!  I polished the soles of all the feet and I
can tell you that they have now regained their luster!  (I grew up in the
frozen North where making a bottom surface slippery adds a lot of enjoyment
to your spare time, namely slicking up the toboggans' belly).  

I had noticed that the gouge in the foot #1 was just enough to be obvious to
my finger.  So it did have an effect on a fine fabric.  After polishing, I
can see a remnant of scratch but can't detect any effect.  (when you see a
scratch, part of that metal missing in the groove is left at the edges of
the groove, forming a ridge)

To polish the sole: just slide the foot back and forth on a piece of crocus
cloth (set abrasive side up on a table) until it shines.  For scratches, I
cut a small piece of it to rub on the area affected with a finger.

I was careful at once, wondering if the abrasive could 'chew up' too much of
the foot: not to worry: the abrasive is so fine that it merely polishes the
surface (the check is on the crocus cloth itself, where you see very little
evidence of metal from the foot).  Now all the feet are nice and slippery under!

After a while, the feed dog leaves a mark on the underside of feet.  This I
fould could restore their slickness if a musling polishing does not do it.

Sylvain
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:03:16 -0500
Subject: 810 Feet

I have a Bernina 810 and started doing machine piecing for quilts.  The
feet which came with my Bernina are the only ones I have.  Which foot do I
use to get a 1/4" seam.  What is the best way to calculate 1/4" on my
machine.  I have tried, which I think, almost everyway but still cannot
achieve that size of seam.  It is usually either too small or too large and
has an effect on the finished block size.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Marci G
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 16:01:42 -0500
Subject: Re: I need Feedback on a Bernina Presser Foot Project

I have an 830 which I've had for 25+ years.  Would LOVE to have your book if
and when.  Will be more than glad to proof read, test, whatever.  Think it's
a very worthwhile project and very much needed, especially for those of us
who have to go MILES to find a Bernina dealer.  And for those of us who have
old workhorse machines but don't know how to use all those feet!
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 17:55:36 -0500
Subject: Aha!


>>I do not put the thread on the machine, as it creates a bit 
too much drag and stretching of the nylon. I put it behind the 
machine, run it through the thread guide in the handle of the 
machine, then thread.<<

This clears up the mystery for me of why I have never had the 
problems that other people describe in using invisible thread 
for quilting. I have always used the nylon thread from a thread 
stand and never on the spool holders of the machine.  Nancy's 
Notions has thread stands, and I assume Clotidle has, too. I 
strongly recommend that you use one of these.

And, Harriet, I too have had an Elna Press for several years 
now and, in addition to its obvious use in pressing yards of 
fabric, it is wonderful for fusing interfacing when 
constructing clothing, and unsurpassed for pressing creases in 
pants. It's so easy I put creases in all my jeans, which are 
what I wear most anyway. My grandmother and my aunt had mangle 
irons, and my aunt could do a man's shirt in less than 2 
minutes and it looked wonderful. 

Mary M
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 03:38:32 -0500
Subject: Feet

I just wanted to let Sylvain know that I think those are wonderful ideas.
Especially the videos, I just love to learn from videos in the privacy of
your own home. I love my classes but you can learn so much  from videos.

Yes, the feet info gets very confusing. I inherited my mothers 1090 and she
has a ton of feet, and has this huge notebook on them and I found it lacking
and confusing.

Good luck with this, we need all the info we can get!!
             Diane M
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:29:54 -0800
Subject: 810 Feet

I don't know if it works on the 810, but I have the #37 foot, and find
that I can get a fine 1/4" seam with it.  I understand that's what
it's for.

-- Anne
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 08:26:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 810 Feet

Marci,
You might try moving the needle position when trying the different feet.  
I think I use the one with the white plastic shield (000) on my 810, then 
I move the needle position until the edge lines up at a 1/4" seam allowance.
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 08:16:09 EST
Subject: RE: Feet

Sylvain,
What is crocus cloth?

k-
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:42:19 -0500
Subject: Re: 810 Feet

Marci, I am sure you will get a million replies to your question about 1/4
inch seam allowances, but let me add my 2 cetns worth.  Will your machine
take the Little Foot?  It is sold in quilt shops, catalogs and usually at
Bernina dealers.  It is not a Bernina foot but with my machine, you have to
buy a Bernina long extensions shank (about $10) to make it adaptable to your
Bernina.  The little foot sells for around $20 and is well worth the
investment--footproof 1/4 inch seam allowances all the time!!  Good luyck.
Laura
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Subject: Re: 810 Feet
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:55:11 -0800 (PST)

> I have a Bernina 810 and started doing machine piecing for quilts.  The
> feet which came with my Bernina are the only ones I have.  Which foot do I
> use to get a 1/4" seam.  What is the best way to calculate 1/4" on my
> machine.  I have tried, which I think, almost everyway but still cannot
> achieve that size of seam.  It is usually either too small or too large and
> has an effect on the finished block size.


I have a 1001 with only the standard feet.  I use the straight
stitch foot (#1?) and move the needle to the right by one (you
can move it two on my machine in either direction).  If I use
the edge of my foot to mark the seam, I get a "scant" 1/4 seam.
That is, the stitching isn't quite 1/4" from teh edge, but when
the block is completed it is 12" exactly.

I used to make my seams exactly 1/4" from the edge of the fabric,
but my 12" blocks came out 11.875 inches and my 3 foot tops
were 2 feet 11.5 inches.

If you are working by yourself, it doesn't matter if you don't
quite have 12" blocks as long as you are consistant.  All
your seams will match up.  But if you are in an exchange, it
can matter.

-- 
Jennifer
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Date:          Fri, 24 Mar 1995 07:46:30 EST5DST
Subject:       1001 machine quilting? 

I will probably buy the Bernina 1001 tomorrow and want to know if 
anyone who has one has had good results machine quilting with it. I 
presently have a featherweight (and will keep it) that's motor is not 
strong enough to handle machine quilting.
Linda P
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 07:19:29 -0500
Subject: Re: 810 Feet

Joyce,

Thanks for the info.  I tried that last night on a border exchange I am on.
It still seems that my  seams are a little smaller than everybody elses.
But everything turned out really well.  So maybe I'll continue with that
trick.

Marci
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 08:35:13 -0500
Subject: What crocus cloth is 

Greetings!

Someone asked what crocus cloth is.  It is the finest grade of 'sandpaper'
available,  except that it's not truly sandpaper.  It is made with fabric
which is coated with a very fine abrasive (called jeweler's rouge).  The
result is an ultrafine polishing tool, especially for metal.  The backing
being fabric (something like a stiffened denim), the cloth is more flexible
than sandpaper.  The abrasive side has a dull chocolate color, slightly on
the reddish side.

Crocus cloth is recommended to buff scratch marks and needle pokes on your
throat plate, shoe soles, etc. 

You can find crocus cloth at Clotilde's.  It's relatively cheap.

Sylvain
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 10:33:59 EST
Subject: walking foot

I was wondering if it would be ok to advertise a walking foot for sale on this
message board.  If so I have a walking foot for an 800 series Bernina for
sale.  My dealer assures me that this foot will work on any 800 series
machine.  If anyone is interested please email me privately at raf1@lehigh.edu
 thanks   Rosalie
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 19:23:01 -0500
Subject: RE: Speaking of Feet

Sylvain,  what the heck is a crocus cloth?  My curiosity is extemely peaked.
It does get peaked pretty easily and often, however. 8>o!
Margaret G
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 19:06:45 -0500
Subject: Re: 1001 Machine Quilting?

Hi Linda - Hope this doesn't come too late - after you've made your decision.
As a Bernina dealer and quilter, I would highly discourage you from
purchasing the 1001. This machine is a rotary hook machine, and the quality
is just not what I think Bernina standard should be. The 1006 is a much nicer
machine, and you get the oscillating hook. If you can wait for a few more
weeks, the 1001 and 1006 are going to be coming out with knee lifts - one of
the most helpful tools you can have on a sewing machine! We expect them in
May. Good luck with your decisions. If you want a mechanics viewpoint - one
that is not making a profit from selling the machine - call Kurt, my mechanic
at (303) 424-1290. 
Harriet H
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 95 19:57:45 -0500
Subject: Re: walking foot

Happy Friday Everyone, 

A questions has come up about advertising on the Bernina Fan Club.  I've put a 
great deal of thought into this and have come to the following conclusions.

1) As the owner of my domain name (well, DH, Eric &I), I do not have to abide 
by the no advertising rules as lists held at educational sites (such Quiltnet) 
do.  FYI - ttsw is not a large commercial site (yet).  My husband and I do 
this because we both love computers, all work for both the Bernina Fan Club and 
the World Wide Quilt Page (And several other smaller web pages) we do in our 
spare time on evenings &weekends.

2) I feel that if the product/service/extra part/whatever that a person has to 
offer is something that members of the BFC would find beneficial or useful, I 
see no reason that an occasional "advertisement" type of posting could not be 
made by members.  The "if someone is looking for X, please e-mail me" type of 
posting that is allowed on some lists which don't allow "advertising" is just 
advertising in a different form, so why not just say "I have XYZ that I will not 
use and would like to sell/trade/whatever"  I would NEVER release a e-mail 
address from this list to ANY outside company/business/etc.  

3) This is not to say that I would ever allow any flagrant or blatant abuse of 
this list simply for advertising purposes.  

4) What I want to say, is let common sense rule.  If you have XYZ that you feel 
may be of help to other people on the BFC, then it is okay to post it. 

5)  I do NOT want to start a big discussion over this issue.  I DO NOT feel that 
anyone on the list has abused the BFC by "advertisement" type of postings.  I am 
making this posting because I have received questions from BFC member asking if 
these kind of postings are okay.  As long as they are LIMITED in nature, I DO 
NOT have a problem with forwarding them all to you.  PLEASE, do not abuse this.  
And PLEASE, if you disagree with my stand on this matter, e-mail me privately.  
I am just setting the record straight.

I am really glad to have the opportunity to get to know all of you through your 
postings and have learned a great deal about my 'nina since I began this list.

Thanks to all &happy weekend
Sue T
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Date:          Fri, 24 Mar 1995 17:04:10 PST8PDT
Subject:       Re: 1001 Machine Quilting?

> purchasing the 1001. This machine is a rotary hook machine, and the quality
> is just not what I think Bernina standard should be. The 1006 is a much nicer
> machine, and you get the oscillating hook. If you can wait for a 
How strange. When I was out looking for machines, I was told that I 
should insist on a rotary hook machine. This guy was the repairman 
at a Brother and New Home dealership but I wasn't looking at those 
anyway (don't know which type they are) I was looking at all of his 
various used machines. Admittedly, I don't know a oscil. Bernina from 
a rotary Bernina. I don't even own a Bernina, merely a dreamer (If it 
doesn't come with a stick shift and four wheels we aren't paying 
_that_ much for it.) I do know that my wonderful old Featherweight is 
a rotary hook. I'll have to go check my old Elna.

Just curious.......--
Heidi 
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 20:17:39 MST
Subject: New machine advice

If you were thinking of upgradeing your present machine which would you
chose...a Bernina 1080 or the 1260?  There's a deal on the 1080 at the
home show here tomorrow...I presently own the 1031 (which I love) and I
mainly quilt but also do some clothing particularly embellished jackets
etc. which is why I thought I would go to the 1260./
Your advice will be appreciated.
Sandra
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 06:55:54 -0500
Subject: 1630 software and Mac update

Dear Bernina users
I received the following update from Deanox, the group that supports the 1630
software.  His earlier information that I posted was apparently wrong!  Sorry
about that.  Sorry too that there is not a good Mac solution.

Barb M
Here's his message:

I am finally compiled the information needed about the current possibilities
for the Macintosh using Insignia's SoftWindows: 

Bernina Designer does NOT run on the CURRENT version of softwindows.
(designer is 386 enhanced)

Bernina Designer WILL run on the NEW version of softwindows due out ???

Bernina Designer will NOT print to the sewing machine in the new verison of
softwindows

The bottom line is that Softwindows is NOT a solution. It will only be a
partial solution.

I was told from out technical group that the software would run on the
softwindows. They were talking abou the future version. I have implied in an
earlier message that it was the current version. I apologize if I have
mislead any persons in this matter. The current version won't even load.

Thanks to you, I have had caught this error.

Bernina Designer is now being tested on the orange Micro card, Replys Dos on
a Mac card and Apples Houdini card. further information will follow soon.
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 13:09:40 -0500
Subject: Bobbin along 

I noticed that there has been a suggestion to loosen (or tighten) the bobbin
case screw when doing various types of sewing. For example, loosening it when
 using heavy thread in the bobbin and then sewing on the wrong side of the
fabric using regular thread in the needle to create interesting couched
effects on the fabric's right side. (I decorated a knit turtleneck using
thickish gold tread with this method and it came out quite nice. Easy to do
too.)

But frankly, I would NEVER NEVER  fool around with the screw on my precious
primary bobbin case (the one that came with the machine). Bernina makes
something called a Wool Bobbin Case (also called a Black Latch Case) which
fits the 1130 (mine),1030 and 930 models (and probably others). The FootSteps
Vol l, #4 of April '88 gives directions for its use.  It is exactly like the
regular machine bobbin except it has a black painted latch. What I have done
(and saved a few $$'s) is purchase an extra regular Bernina bobbin case and
use it whenever I want to fool around with special effects and/or
loosening/tightening screws . I painted the latch with a little red nail
polish to differentiate it from my regular bobbin. WARNING: I always  make
sure I am holding the case over a good-sized box (shoebox etc)whenever I
loosen or tighten the little  screw. This screw is so tiny that it could
disappear in a heartbeat if it ever fell outside the box. Trust me, you must
take precautions when adjusting it. A little turn (1/4) does a lot to change
the tension, so it's really a matter of trial and error at first. Taking
notes for future reference helps with subsequent projects. Anyway, that's my
2-cents-worth on the bobbin tension subject. Speaking of subjects, forgive my
subject line--the devil made me write it. (At least I didn't say "tension
headaches" which was my first choice until I thought better of it).

Greetings from Boston, Pat
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 09:45:00 -0500
Subject: Little Foot v. #37

In my opinion, there is no contest. I had a Little Foot, and it was OK, but
when the #37 foot appeared, I thought I had died and gone to heaven. It grips
so much better and you don't have to go through all the convolutions of
screwing the Little Foot on to the adaptor. I think Little Foot is great for
any machine that doesn't HAVE a 1/4" foot, but Bernina does, so my advice is
to get one.

I also agree, however, with the person who suggested offsetting the needle to
get the scant 1/4". Mary Ellen Hopkins is the one who calls whatever seam you
get on your machine your PPM (for personal private measurement?). And it
doesn't matter a hoot as long as you're consistent and not exchanging blocks
with others. 

Mary M
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 10:13:37 -0500
Subject: Crocus cloth

To quote machine expert Gale Hazen "Crocus cloth is denim impregenated with
jeweler's rouge" doesn't that tell you a lot? It is a very fine emery type
cloth which when used gently removes burrs, for our purposes in the throst
plate and needle area of our sewing machines. It is available from Clotilde
and supposedly from some hardware stores..
If you have not seen Gale Hazen's video on sewing machine upkeep I highly
recommend it. It is available for rental from Nancy's Notions video rentals.
Hazen knows machines. She repaired them for many years. She also has a book,
but I learned more watching the video. Besides you get to see Hazen who is a
great, big, beautiful woman who sews for herself which I think is great
encouragement for all of us who do not look like teenage boys.
Barbara A
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 20:26:26 -0500
Subject: Quilt tack and H. Hargrave

Hi all and especially H. Hargrave,
   There has been a lot of discussion recently on Quiltnet about quilt-tac.
 I would particularly be interested in knowing H. Hargraves opinion of this
method of quilt basting.  I will be taking a class with her in Fairfax, Va on
April 12th.  I can hardly wait.  I am currently quilting (by machine, Bernina
1090) a baby quilt which I have "basted" in this way.  I have been quite
satisified but don't want to get too excited with out hearing the 'expert'
opinion.  Is this just an easy out for non serious quilters or is it a real
step forward?  I would be interested in hearing form all who care to comment.

Melinda B
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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 09:44:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Bobbin along

I have been adjusting tension on my bobbin case for over 25 years - from
learning and teaching machine embroidery and applique years ago - to the
'mock hand applique' technique that I helped put on the map 8 years ago. How
I do it is illustrated in my book Mastering Machine Applique, and my students
have had tremendous success in the tiny adjustments we HAVE to make in class.
We are talking 1 hour increments that we turn the screw. I"m afraid that some
people think that we really turn the screw alot! No more than any mechanic
does when he adjusts your bobbin case in a normal clean and adjust servicing.
Just changing the type of thread that is in the bobbin - from 50/3ply cotton,
to polyester. to 50/2 ply embroidery thread has a definate effect on the
quality of the stitch, and often demands that a slight adjustment be made.
Being afraid of tensions and how important they are to understand in order to
have total control of your machine is a problems that all too many machine
owners deal with.
Yes, I do agree that when making sever adjustments to do sand stitching, and
reverse couching with heany threads does need more adjusting than an applique
method, and I also use an auxilary bobbin case for these types of
applications. 
On thing that might help many of you is to clean out from under the clip of
the bobbin case regularly. Expecially if you use cotton wrapped and polyester
threads to sew with. You will find a mat of lint under there that affects the
tension in normal sewing also. 
So much for my two cents worth. 
HJH
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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 10:34:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Bobbin Along

I was just considering everyones concern with the bobbin tension again, and
remembered that most Bernina owners have very little tension concerns to
start with. With the way our bobbin case is designed with the hole in the
finger, tightening tension - which is what I need to do most often - is a
cinch. What I spoke of in my last message is from years and years of teaching
machine arts on every machine brand known to man, and some of them hardly sew
in the first place. They are in the classrooom, new bobbin cases are not
right there for their use, so I have to teach how to adjust tension for no
other reason than getting on with the class. Once the fear is taken away, it
is amazing to watch the ladies dump the intimidation they once had about the
machine, and the quality of their work improves overnight. Necessity is the
mother of invention! HJH
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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 12:45:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Bernina 2000DE serger

As a new subscriber, I know I'll enjoy hearing about Bernina sewing
machines, and hope to get some help with sergers too.
I own a 12-year-old non-Bernina serger and am interested in upgrading.
The decision is between the Bernina 2000DE and the Pfaff 4870.  The 
Pfaff is a 5-thread serger, and apparently Bernina doesn't make one of 
these.  I THINK I want 5 threads, but if any of you has made a similar 
decision, opting for the 4-thread Bernina, I'd be interested in hearing 
about how you like it and do you have any yearnings for a 5-thread machine?
Both are the same price, and both are sold by a dealer I like.  My 
demonstration, however, left something to be desired, so I still am 
feeling a little lost.

    Myra 
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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 18:14:02 -0700
Subject: Re: Bernina 2000DE Serger

I had heard that Bernina was going to come out with a
5 thread machine in April? There has not been much
talk about it here online tho. 

Mark &Donna P
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 14:09:19 -0500
Subject: Re: 1/4 in seam

I get this in digest so please forgive my later addition to this.

After years of struggling with 1/4" seams I rejoiced when the Little Foot
came out &I add my vote for this great gizmo
 for most Non-Bernina machines.  The only complain I ever had about it -- it
IS very slippery and non-gripping.

When I got my Bernina 1260 though -- WOW-- I use the needle offset (one to
the Right) and #1 foot and was so thrilled when my very first quilt block
came up **exactly** the right size. No muss, no fuss, no bo
ther as they say.
 
The only warning is this -- remember to leave your machine ON while sewing
since the needle position resets at startup.  That's the only change I would
make in my 1260 -- perhaps a personal setting memory to keep my favorite
stitchlength &needle setting... 

Happy sewing!

============bye for now=================
Mary Beth G
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 19:01:16 -0500
Subject: Re:to buy or not to buy a 1001, that is the ?

Just my 5 cts worth, but If Harriet Hargrave, The GURU of machine quilting
says it's not the one to buy, you wouldn't catch me within a mile of it. I
mean, She's been doing this for absolute yonks,is a recognized authority, has
given her opinion for free, Why not cash in and take her advice?It's not
often we get the chance to buy something with an expert's opinion attached to
it! Cheers! LCW
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 22:38:25 MST
Subject: Re: to buy or not to buy a 1001, that is

Well, I went and had a good look at the machine and decided to keep
my 1031 for a little while longer imho it is a much better machine than
the 1001.....I had not seen Harriet's advice re the 1001 but it is nice
to have my own opinion confirmed by an expert.
Sandra
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 01:08:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Ready to buy?!

Hi All!
I subscribed to this about a week ago and have been reading the notes with
interest. I do not own a Bernina, but am about ready to purchase one. I have
to deal with a dealer who I am not fond of. She is the sole dealer in this
area that I can find of not only Bernina, but also Pfaff. I have been going
in there for about 6 months trying to check out machines, but she never has
time, or at least doesn't take time to show me anything. I asked a couple
questions of her one day &she told me to only look at the Pfaffs. I have
since stitched on a couple Berninas, and have fallen in love. I made an
appointment to go test drive in the shop a couple models. She will not be
happy I am sure, as she only wants me to look at Pfaff (she told me I am a
Pfaff person?!) Anyhow, what models do you all recommend? I am not
interested in a mechanical...I have tried (in a couple quilting classes) a
1090 and 1260. What are the 1530/1630s like &are there any problems with
any of these machines that I should be aware of? I mainly quilt...rarely do
clothing construction, but sometimes do things like curtains, etc. I have
been piecing for about 15 years, but always hand-quilted. The this last year
I started machine-quilting (thank you Harriet!). I have found that my lil
Singer isn't quite cutting the mustard anymore (G).
Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated! The appointment isn;t
til mid April, so I hope to go in armed with info....the only way to survive
the dragon-lady, I'm afraid....
Robin C
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Date:          Mon, 27 Mar 1995 08:01:57 EST5DST
Subject:       Re: 1001 Machine Quilting?

Well, your message did reach me AFTER I bought the 1001. I sewed with 
it all weekend (piecing) and I love it.  But the best news is, if I 
trade UP within a year, I will get credit for the full price I paid 
for the 1001 towards the higher-end model.  You can bet I've already 
decided to do just that!  I haven't tried machine quilting yet, but 
will do some striaght-line quilting on a couple tops I already have.  
I look forward to hearing all your great tidbits from the BFC. Thanks
Linda P
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 11:37:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 

Thanks to you who have corresponded on my serger dilemma--i.e., choosing 
the Bernina 2000 or the Pfaff 5-thread 4870.  Keep those messages coming, 
please.  I'll check on the possibility that Bernina will be making a 
5-thread machine.  I am lucky to have a good and honorable dealer of both 
machines.  I don't believe we have an Elna dealer in town.  The dealer 
for certain other machines is so unknowledgable, and somewhat 
argumentive, I'd be reluctant to purchase there.  But if I had an 
unpleasant dealer, I would have no confidence in future service.  To the 
gal in California who is in this situation--I'd sure try to purchase 
elsewhere.  If I were in her situation, I would drive a good distance to 
avoid patronizing the local dealer who is not going to be much help 
anyway,.  In order for me to see other machines, I'll be driving 25 miles 
to Georgia where there is a sewing machine dealer.  It's important to deal 
with someone you get along with, but it's also important to like your 
machine.

I'm enjoying the list very much.  It's a real service.

    Myra
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 10:59:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Ready to Buy?!

Hi Robin - I'm always sorry to hear about customers that have to put up with
less than satisfactory dealers. It does make me wonder what makes them stay
in business if they aren't interested in helping you make the best decision
for YOU! 
Was excited that you fell in love with Bernina when you sewed on it. I do
believe that that is one of the biggest problems I run across - people make a
purchase decision without ever sewing on a Bernina. Have met very few who
did'nt understand the love we have for the machine once they have sewn on
one.
As to models - I personally would stay away from the 1630 if yu mainly sew.
This seems to raise a bit of controversy with 1630 owners, but as a dealer
and working as closely with Bernina as I do, the machine is just too touchy
for long term and heavy duty quilting. We have more problems with 1630
adjustments than all the other models put together. It is not a machine that
I would take back and forth to class!
I personally love the 1260. It is a powerhouse and no real 'bugs' to worry
about. the 1530 is also wonderful if you prefer the LCD screen and tracking
ball as opposed to the push buttons. The both sew the same. My 2 cents worth
says that you can't go wrong with either. Let me know what you decide.
Harriet
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Date: 27 Mar 1995 10:03:52 -0500
Subject: RE: Walking Foot

I support your stand on this.  Thanks for clarifying it and letting us all
know your thinking.  And thanks for all the time you put into this great
service!
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 12:28:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina 2000DE Serger

Hi all - here is an update straight from a training that we are in. Bernina
is coming out with 2 new sergers this spring.
One is a new version of the 334D - called the 008 and is a 5 thread capacity
machine. Due to be released in May.
The newest machine is really exciting. It is a coverstitch serger - up till
now only available in the garment mfg. industry. The machine is a normal 2 or
3/4 thread serger, but the difference is that it sews 2 straight lines and a
cover stitch. Looks like the seam that is on our Levi's. It is due to be
released in May/June. You may want to wait and check out these machines
before you make any decisions.
Harriet
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 10:23:17 -0500
Subject: Re: 810 Feet

The #37 foot is as close to a perfect 1/4" foot as there is. The foot has
markings on the side that denote 1/4" from the edge, 1/4" into the edge, as
well as where the needle is in the foot. A very useful measuring device. On
the 810, the edge of the right feed dog is a good marker for the 1/4" seam
allowance. One thing that I have learned over many years of piecing is that
if I stay CONSISTANT with myself, a perfect 1/4" isn't all that necessary. I
generally sew with a slightly smaller that 1/4" seam, and the blocks still
always fit together perfectly. 
Harriet
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 95 15:24:12 PST
Subject: re:Ready to Buy?!

Robin
 I to just joined last week and have enjoyed all the chatting.  I recently 
got the 1630 and love it.  I find it very easy to use (specially if you 
are not afraid of computers) and like the expansion capabilities it has.  
I can't afford the computer program yet but look forward to the day I can. 
 I hope this helps a little.  

Terri K
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 16:30:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Ready to Buy?!

Robin -

Your dealer seems to want to only sell her Pfaff machines.  You are the only
one who can decide which machine is right for you.  If there is another
dealer within a 50 mile range, try them.  I am speaking from experience here.
 While I know that the dealer closet to my house was a little snobby before I
bought the machine, it is not something that has to be tolerated.  You are a
customer who is interested in spending a fair amount of money.  The dealer is
in a position that she has to deal with the public daily; taking the time to
be polite and take time with each customer will result in more sales for her
shop.

If the dealer can not take the time to show you how the different machines
work and what the features are, call Bernina and let them know.  While most
dealers are the nicest people in the world, those few who aren't ruin it for
everyone else.  The local Bernina dealership lost her Elna dealership after
several complaints about her attitude and a few major mistakes she made.

I love my 1260 and wouldn't (at this point anyway) trade it in for the 1530
or the 1630.  My old Singer just wasn't doing the job and the 1260 offered me
what I wanted plus some extras.

I hope this helps you Robin.

Mia
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 07:34:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina 2000 DE serger

I have had one since right after it came out and have never regretted it. I
previously had a Bernina 234, one of the early ones and spent hours and hours
re-threading.  Yes, I knew how to pull the thread through, but when it
breaks, there you are.  You have to thread from scratch. I was looking at
Pfaff and Bernina sergers in a store which carries both, and the person there
asked me what I was looking for in a serger. I told her, "One which does not
make me cry." She said, "Have I got a machine for you!" and showed me the
2000 DE. Not only has it never made me cry, which the 234 did with great
regularity, but it does not bother me a whit to rethread it from scratch, and
it is so easy to do rolled hems, which on the other I had to twist myself
into knots to do, change throat plates and all sorts of nonsense. I believe
all the machines now are easy to do rolled hems on, but since that is one of
my favorite things to do, aside from the obvious clean finishing of seams, it
is a real pleasure now. Anyway, I have never wanted a 5 thread, so would get
the Bernina.  Just my opinion.

Mary M
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Subject: Re: Ready to Buy?! (fwd)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 17:53:32 -0500

I am enjoying the Bernina club. I own a l260 and just love it. I have
not had any lessons as yet but will in May.  However I am unhappy with
my dealers. This is the fourth machine I have purchased or sent someone
to them in the last 2 years and they do not even give me a package of
needles or extra bobbin or whatever. Sat. they had a 20% sale on notions
and my daughter purchased 2 feet, one for me for Mother's Day. Anyway I
asked if we could get the 20% off and she said, feet are not notions,
they are Bernina accessories. WELL, I am really put out, it is just the
last straw.  When I bought the l260, she was having a sale, I went in at
noon, paid cash and she asked me to leave the machine until 6'00 for her
sale.  I did this, but it caused me another trip to other end of town
and all afternoon wait to get my beautiful machine.  No thanks no fat
quarter or thread.  So thats why the 20% sale upset me.  Thanks for
listening.   Sallie
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 09:20:46 EST
Subject: Re: Bobbin along

Help what is Footsteps which Pat referred to in her message about the black
latch bobbin.  Rosalie
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 20:04:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/26/95

Thank you to the person that suggested to clean the lint from the sewing
machine.  I think my machine has been saved.  Now all I have to do is figure
my 1530 out and I am in business.  Waiting to get some lessons...
BARB
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 21:59:39 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Ready to Buy?!

Robin
I have just traded up to a Bernina a   from a Pfaff which I cussed for 8-10 years.  
I had a Paff 1469, which is admittedly the first computerized machine they made
but I did not buy until it had meen on the market for a couple of years, think
ing the bugs would be worked out.
It never worked well, I sent it back to the factory twice for repair/adjustment
which they were not able to accomplish, and they called the dealer from
whom I purchased to ask if I am hard to get along with.

I has always cut the thread, somethimes as often as every inch when machine
appliquing.  The computerized stitches did not repeat evenly.  They buttonhole
was a joke.

I have given classes in making quilts for years and have always told everyone
NOT to buy a Pfaff, so they have not gotten any good publicity from me. And
they have gotten a lot of bad publicity.

It might be worth the drive to got sometwhere else to find a good ldealer.
Nancy B
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Date:          Tue, 28 Mar 1995 07:53:35 EST5DST
Subject:       1001

I am going to buy a foot for my 1001 for free-motion quilting.  It 
looks like there are 2 that would do the job: the #20 open embroidery 
foot and the 29 quilting foot.  Which do you recommend?

Also a question:  I am unable to disengage the needle action while 
filling a bobbin.  The knob inside the handwheel won't turn, and 
puttin the bobbin on its post and moving it to the right doesn't 
disengage it.  Am I doing something wrong or is it ok to fill the 
bobbin and have the needle go up and down?  I won't have my 
instruction class for another week or 2
Linda P
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Subject: Re: 810 feet
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 8:24:35 -0500 (EST)

Harriet:

Will the #37 foot work on my 830?

beth
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 09:22:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Ready to Buy?!

I have 1530, and I've never been happier.  I sewed all day Sunday and the 
results were terrific.  I really didn't look at other brands because I 
had heard from quilters whose work I admire that Bernina is the way to 
go.  The dealer is important however, and mine may be somewhat distant, 
but she's terrific.

I have a friend who refused to lokk at Berninas, even, because she put 
them in the same category as Volvos  - too popular with yuppies!  What an 
attitude to have about a major purchase.


Martha
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 09:25:56 -0500
Subject: Hidden stitches on the 1230/1260...

Good morning (it is morning here...)

Last night, I was playing with my new toy (sounds like I do that every
night, doesn't it? :)  I was going over Jackie Dodson's list of 'fantasy
stitches' in her book 'Know yer Bernina', noting the differences between the
stitch numbers between the 1130 (as in the book) and 1230 (as on my 'Nina).
I was disappointed by the fact that the gathering stitch had been taken away
(i missed it from my 1090).  

Well, the gathering stitch (roughly) -^-v-^-  is fairly simple.  Surely
there's a way to trick another stitch in doing it...  Look at that feather
stitch...  

here goes:

choose the feather stitch, use + balance at least 20 times and reduce stitch
length to |||||| (satin length).  I had perfect results at -35 (at -20, the
sideways points are not perfectly symmetrical)

Voila!  they didn't take it away, they just hid it on us!


Another stitch I wished existed on the 1230 is what I called the 'checkered
border', something like '''',,,,'''',,,, in a satin stitch (I like abstract,
simple borders, especially as a trim on a pocket facing).  Well... let's
poke around.  

Jackie has something like that using the buttonhole stitch.  All I needed to
do was lengthen the pattern. Here goes:

stitch: bartack buttonhole  M+ M+  mirror button M+ M+  
(adjust stitch length as needed or preferred) 

That was fun.  Now I need to keep a post-it near my machine so I can 'go
back' to these stitches..



One wish for the list:  it would be nice is Bernina's top 5mm machine came
with a stitch designer. For instance, the gathering stitch would be easy
enough to design. One could design 'utility stitches on demand', tailored to
whatever task is at hand. Other abstract border stitch could also be
created. (I expect the folks at Bernina have their hands full just
developing/perfecting the 1630). It would be nice to be able to expand the
stitches on the 5mm machines too.  A 1290 maybe?


Sylvain
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 10:15:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/27/95

Robin--In answer to your question about which Bernina to test drive next month, 
I have a 1530. In retrospect I would have probably been just as happy with
the 1230, which I would suggest you look at. (you email indicates that the
1200 series is mechanical; I thought it was computerized, but then I don't
keep up with these things) The 1530/1630 does have the aggravation of a
cursor that is sometimes hard to spot on the screen, while the 1230 has a
more straightforward button system.   I went with a 1530 because I do lots
of clothing and really loved the buttonhole features . Most of the
embroidery capabilities (a good bit of which the 1230 has) are really lost
on me.  The one thing I haven't tried yet is machine quilting with it. My
830 did wonderfully considering that I have no way to lower the machine to
reduce drag from the weight of the quilt.  All in all, I love the 1530. I
thought the 1630 was overkill as I don't do embroidery, and I didn't like
the idea of a unique bobbin system, when the old bobbin technology is what
makes Bernina stitch quality so reliable. I also thought the1630  price was
just too hard to justify  (course I just visited Switzerland this spring,
and the dollar is so weak that it is no surprise Bernina's are pricey. Big
Macs are $5.50 and I saw a pair of Burlington brand argyle socks packed in
a tin case for $16. My 13 mile taxi ride was $50.) 
Julia
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 10:17:37 -0500
Subject: 1230 whoops, 1260

Robin--
I referred to the 1230 throughout my mail; I meant 1260.
Julia S
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Date: 28 Mar 1995 11:10:26 +0100
Subject: Re: 1001

        Reply to:   RE>1001

Linda, My favorite foot for free motion machine quilting is the open toed
embroidery foot.  I own, but do not use the so called quilting foot.  I
haven't found a use for it.

Just my opinion. 
Anita K
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 11:13:28 -0500
Subject: Quilting with Walking Foot

I have not gone out and bought the walking foot for my 1260 yet and was
wondering if I could get away without it to machine quilt a small pillow top?
 I plan on using a split layer of poly batting, a muslin backing, and the
pillow top.  I am talking about a piece that is about 10x10.  I just want to
put a few lines of quilting on it.

I do plan on buying the walking foot, but I am trying not to spend any of my
quilting money until after the Lancaster show.

Thanks in advance!!!!

Mia
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:11:34 -0500
Subject: dealers

I surprised that about the people who buy machines from rude dealers. Anyone
can take your money and hand over a machine, it's the service that you are
buying. I second the comments about driving awhile to find a dealer. I
shopped all around the Chicago area. We have some real "interesting" dealers
around here. I wonder why these women go into a business if they can't seem
to be nice to anyone.  When  I am making a major purchase such as a car or
big appliance, I shop around and walk right out the door if someone is rude.
If they can't be nice when they are "courting" your business, how do you
think they will treat you when you need warrenty work in a hurry? 

The dealership closest to me is an odd combination. It is owned by a husband
and wife team. The wife started the business, and after she got successful,
her husband left his job and came to work for her. She can be quite brusque
(until you buy a high end machine from her) and loses a lot of business
because of it. But her husband is a gem, and he is the one who does the
servicing.  I have brought friends in and within his hearing recommended this
dealership because of the great service he gives. They also give new owners a
10% discount for the year and have great clubs and lessons. I figured that
the wife wasn't being "rude" just distant. Of course, since I bought my 1630
she is very happy to see me when I walk in. I have been forcing her to be
friendly to me over the years by ignoring her distance, so even if I hadn't
bought a machine I figure another decade and she would be nice to me. But the
truth is that if her husband wasn't so nice I would have bought my machine in
Milwaukee, an hour away. 

I would also like to thank Harriet for her wonderful information. Too bad you
I couldn't consult you when I bought my machine. I am happy with it now, but
the reason I bought a Bernina was for its reliable reputation. My Pfaff kept
going bad just as I was finishing up a quilt. I did want a top of the line
machine though, it took a lot of effort to convince myself I was worth
spending all that money on in the first place so I figured I might as well go
all the way. 

Also, I would like to know why that dealer thinks some people are Pfaff
people? I happen to have both. 

RobbiE
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 13:40:19 -0500
Subject: Bernina Sergers

I have a Bernette 335 Serger, and it is a 5 thread. It is about 3-4 years
old.
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 15:45:00 -0500
Subject: Which Feet Are Special to the 1630?

Hi all,
Which presser feet are special for the 1630? I understand that there are
coded #10 and #20 feet. Also, that the regular ruffler attachment that I
originally purchased with my 1090 won't work on the 1630 (it does on the
1530). I heard that my walking foot (originally for my 1090) will work on the
1630, but that it is noisy. Will it cause any damage to the machine?
What other, special feet are there now, or need to be?
Many thanks,
Marianne
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 20:42:58 -0500
Subject: Re: 810 Feet

MARCI- 

I have an 810 also, and I bought a special quarter inch foot- it is
marvelous.  Any Bernina dealer ought to have one.

Beth 
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 23:16:47 -0500
Subject: Special Needle 4 Machine Quiltin

Greetings!

I am starting my first free motion quilting project on my 1090.  I have heard
of special needles for machine quilting and one for use with metallic
threads.  Could someone tell me the difference between these needles and
regular sewing machine needles &what effect they have on threads and
stitching?

I've really enjoyed the input from everyone about their machines -- Like
Robin, I sat down at a Bernina to test it, fell in love &never considered
another.  Actually I walked out of the shop with the one I tested  :-)

Thanks in advance for the advice &have a pieceful day!

Kathy G
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 00:57:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Ready to Buy?!

Nancy (and Mia &Sallie): I am convinced now to definitely write or even
call Bernina &ask for the nearest dealer...when they tell me this company,
I will say, thank you just the same...where is the NEXT nearest?! Think that
wills end a message?! I think the hardest thing for me is dropping a bundle
in a shop where I have to beg to buy. And now, I am seeing all these
questions here about feet, bobbin tensions, etc...will she be able to
answer/help me?! I have doubts. I guess I should wait til my appointment to
test-drive (yes, I finally had to make an appointment so I knew she would
have time for me), before I make a judgement on her ability to answer/help
me once the purchase is made. One interesting sidebar....she mentioned the
last time she was in that she bought/gave her sister a Bernina for
Christmas...she said, "but my sister is a Bernina person". LOL. 
I am just so excited about getting a Bernina at this point (after stitching
on a couple of them in classes) that I am almost willing to put up with her
games...I might HAVE to, unfortunately. I have friends who swear by their
Pfaffs, but I don;t like the feel of them...hard to explain.
Thanks all...I am really getting bolstered by all your comments and
suggestions!
Robin 
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 00:57:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 1230 whoops, 1260

Julia,
I figured you meant the 1260! No, it isn't mechanical, and if I said so, I
said it in error...I think so far I amgonna seriously try out the 1260 and
the 1530. I mainly quilt, and the embroidery would be lost on me as well,
although it would be fun to play with...a lot of money to play with, though!
Thanks!
Robin
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 19:28:51 -0500
Subject: Unhappy with dealers

I have been following the thread concerning the ones of you who are unhappy
with their dealer.   May I make a suggestion?  You have presented your case
so well here, why not write them and tell them item by item why ou are
offended.  When I have a problem like this, it is easier for me to write
because I don't think very fast on my feet.  ( I am one of those "I shoulda
said" people.)  I also would send a copy of this letter to the Bernina main
office.  I am fortunate in having Bernina dealerships all around me so I can
choose where I want to go.  I can really relate to your complaints though,
because the woman who has the local dealership was really angry when she
found out I bought my 1630 elsewhere in the county.  I don't owe her
anything and I don't really care for the attitude that she and her husband
put forth.  They give a strong impression that the bottom line is all that
matters.  She has lost a lot of customers that way.        
Margaret G
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Subject: Machine Problem
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:03:52 -0500 (EST)

Help!

Last night while I was stitching away (straight stitch) I ran 
over a pin and broke my needle.  After I replaced the needle and 
rethreaded my machine I could no longer get it to stitch 
properly.  It skips stitches and eventually doesn't stitch at 
all, just runs the thread along the top of the fabric.

Not related to the above, I have noticed over the past several 
months that my needle doesn't go in very smooth.  I have to 
really fuss to get the needle in and it isn't sitting properly.  
The hole should be straight, front to back.  It sits at angle.

I have an 830.

Could anyone offer a suggestion as to what my problem(s) may be?  
I am going to take it into my local shop on Saturday and would 
appreciate YOUR opinions before I go in.  

Thanks much!

beth
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 11:10:48 -0500
Subject: Machine quilting needles

Schmetz makes several special needles you may want to try for machine
quilting. One of them is called the "quilting needle", I forgot what is
special about it, but I do know that the "topstitching" needle has a longer
eye, and a longer scarf. The scarf is where the thread rests when the needle
goes in and out. I also use the "metafil" needle when I quilt with metallic
threads. I have to experiment a bit with each thread. I usually end up using
a topstitching needle. 

Luckily we have Harriet, who really can better explain all this. I try every
new Schmetz I see. I buy them on sale. 

RobbiE
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 16:07:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Machine Problem

Beth - 

I have been told that if your needle broke after hitting a pin that it could
affect the timing.  I don't know if this applies to the 830 but I was told
that it applies to the 1260.  I hope this helps.

Mia
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 16:12:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bernina Sergers

That's interesting about the Bernette 335 serger--a 5-thread machine.  My 
local dealer said that "they" had a lot of trouble with the 5-thread 
model, so stopped making it.  Whether "they" referred to the company or 
her dealership or what--I don't know.  Now I have heard, both on this net 
and through a local friend, that there will be two new 5-thread sergers, and 
the dealer will go to Bernina University to learn about them.  The 
company doesn't ever tell her the price or the features in advance.   
Bernina certainly seems to have a good training program.  I guess I'll 
just hold on before deciding on a new serger.  It reminds me of days long 
ago when it took my father 10 years to buy a new car--always waiting for 
the new models to come out.

    Myra
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 16:43:37 -0500
Subject: FootSteps

Hi Rosalie

" FootSteps" is a series of  educational pamphlets published by Bernina of
America illustrating various applications for a particular  Bernina foot or
accessory. For example, one issue (Vol.2,No.1) discusses some special
applications for  embroidery feet #6 and #20 (satin stitch, corded edge
applique,blind applique, etc.) Each little pamphlet generally includes
special tips which can be very useful when sewing is a self-taught activity,
as it is for many of us. 

My local Bernina dealer sells  FootSteps for $l each and I usually check the
FootStep collection to see if there is an appropriate pamphlet whenever I
yield to temptation to= purchase yet another fancy Bernina foot. (It's true,
my feet cost more than my shoes. but don't tell anyone!)

Anyway, check it out. Hope this helps, Pat
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 19:01:18 -0500
Subject: 1630 feet

hi all,

The 1630 has several feet that are 'specific', for two reasons:

1. the 1630 being a 9mm wide stitch machine (vs. 5mm on all other models),
it has wider feed dogs (which have a completely different shape compared to
5mm machines)

2. the 1630 uses a sensor located to the right of presser foot bar, which
requires feet to have a prism on the top right of their stem to enable the
sensor-guided functions (like multidirectional stitching).

#1 is why the 1630 has its own walking foot.  Note that Bernina's walking
feet have the unique quality of having a 'top feeder' dog (made of something
that looks like silicone rubber) that matches exactly the shape (and surface
area) of the feed dog.  You get even/reliable double transport.  The 'top
dog' also can move forward/backward, which allows it to work well on reverse
motion stitches (generic walking feet work on the forward direction, not
much on reverse). (I think it's the mercedes of walking feet; costs like one
too :) 

 So using a pre-1630 walking foot on the 1630 will cause a mismatch of the
top feeder with the feed dog, decreasing its efficiency, at best.  AT WORST,
since it does not allow for 9mm needle swing.... Busted needles when you
forget...

#2 requires the 1630 feet with the prism.  The machine uses the sensor to
track its movement on fabric when doing embroidery (BTW, the 1230/60 use a
similar prism for their automatic buttonholes - with foot 3A). 1630 feet
also allow for the 9mm needle swing.

Fancier feet... unfortunately cost more :(

Sylvain
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 18:51:28 -0600
Subject: Re: Ready to Buy ?!

 I have friends who swear by their
>Pfaffs, but I don;t like the feel of them...hard to explain.
>Thanks all...I am really getting bolstered by all your comments and
>suggestions!
>Robin 

I had a pfaff and traded for a 1530-because tension problems don't exist
for my Bernina.  They even have an alternate threading method for specialty
threads and the black latch bobbin case too.  Another fine feature is the
knee lift, once you get used to it you don't know what you did without it. 
My Pfaff had a built in walking foot  but that does not compare to the
Bernina Walking foot,  unfortunately extra.  I quilt and sew delicate
fabrics.  My Pfaff would have chewed them up, until I got the tension
right.
Nadine
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 07:51:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/29/95

Robbi,

Re:  The Schmetz quilting needle ...  We (PineTree Quiltworks) sell a lot of
them (at a discount!), and quilters love them for both machine piecing and
quiting.  They seem to be very sharp and just the "right" diameter for the
job.  They are also pretty easy to thread and are perfect with aall-cotton
threads.  The Schmetz embroidery needle has received rave reviews from people
who use it with metallic threads.  Hope this helps.

All best --Addy
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 07:51:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/29/95

Robin,

Hafta put my two cents in.  I quilt only and do occasional minor sewing.  In
fact, I only machine piece (do not machine quilt).  The #37 foot is fantastic
for piecing.  Have a 1080, which is more than adequate for my needs and will
be fine if I ever machine quilt.  All it "lacks" is the thigh lever to lift
the presser foot , which I never had before and couldn't see springing
another $1,000 for.  (Though if all things had been equal -- like price -- I
certainly would not have turned it down).   The machine is more than a year
old, has been trouble free, no problems with tensions or anythig else.  A
pleasure to use.  It replaced a useless old Singer that was too inaccurate
for machine piecing, stitch width was inconsistent, etc.  (Got it "on sale"
for a little under $1000, and it is all the machine I need, and I don't
foresee any need to upgrade).

All best --Addy
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 95 07:31:02 -0700
Subject: Re: 1630 Feet

Item Subject: 1630 Feet
     Hi everybody!
     
     Sylvain, you are amazing with your knowledge of all models of 
     Berninas.  How are you enjoying your 1230?  Sometimes I really miss 
     mine.
     
     Anyway, I just wanted to make a clarification on using a non-1630 
     walking foot on the 1630:
     
 >So using a pre-1630 walking foot on the 1630 will cause a mismatch of the
>top feeder with the feed dog, decreasing its efficiency, at best.  AT WORST, 
>since it does not allow for 9mm needle swing.... Busted needles when you 
>forget...
     
     I've never had any problem using my walking foot (that I got for the 
     1230) on my 1630 - I'm sure it's not as efficient, but I haven't 
     actually tried the 1630 walking foot (I'm afraid to, because I can't 
     afford it!!).  However, you shouldn't have any problem with needle 
     breakage, because the pre-1630 walking foot is not encoded, so the 
     machine will not allow any stitches wider than 5mm.  (Note: This is 
     how it handles any feet that are not encoded - it simply won't allow 
     any stitch width wider than 5mm; your display screen actually changes 
     depending on which foot you use - it's pretty cool!)
     
     Hope that made sense!
     Kari
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:04:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Dealer Problems

For all of you out there with Bernina Dealer problems, here is Bernina's 800#
: 800359-0727, ask for Mark Jensen. Also, Tom Just is the USA Bernina BIG
WIG. You could ask for him too. I'd definitely let Bernina know of unhelpful
or rude dealers. After all, Bernina's reputation sinks or swims on the
service provided by dealers. Also, you are doing a favor for them by buying
your machine from them, not the other way around! Good Luck! Cheers!
LCW
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:37:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/29/95

In referance to my 5 thread serger, I am surprised no one knows about it.

I inherited from my mother, but used it at her house all the time, after she
died I had to learn how to thread it. :(

Anyway, it has been used ALOT, and I have not had one problem with it, it is
a dream.

Diane M
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Subject: Bobbin cases
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 95 16:03:16 EST

Pat mentioned she uses just another bobbin case with nail
polish on it to identify the different tension adjustments she makes;

Question: is there really a difference in the black latch bobbin case v.
bobbin case sold separately and just marked with some identifying feature
so as not to mix up the normal set case from the adjusted case?

When you adjust the bobbin tension screw on the case: which direction
tightens it and which loosens it?

Example: when machine quilting free style with a beige thread on top, and
burgandy in bobbin, I had small beige dots appear on the burgandy material
on the backing. Would adjustments on a bobbin case make these 'dots'
disappear?

Please give me input! Thanks all....this network is great, and I learn
something new about my Bernina every day!! And Harriet has always walked
on water as far as I am concerned!
Theresa G
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Date: 30 Mar 1995 16:08:21 +0100
Subject: Re: Now, I'm bobbin along

I am a 830 and 1530 owner. I have done bobbin drawing on my 830 and was VERY
FRUSTRATED because I couldn't get my 1530 to bobbin draw...all it did was eat
and break thread and make a really big mess.  I took my 1530 into the dealer
and said "I want this machine to bobbin draw" and was prepared to stay until
it could do it. Well....It did the same thing for the mechanic, but he
discovered that the problem was the bobbin case.  I have a separate regular
bobbin that I use for bobbin drawing, I bought it before 1530s came out. He
discovered that the latch handle on the bobbin stuck out too far for the
1530.  At that point I expected him to say "you need to buy a 1530 bobbin
case"... but he didn't. He filed down the handle of the latch until it would
work in the 1530. Now my extra bobbin case works great for bobbin drawing in
both machines!!! Thanks JIM!

Anita K
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 16:34:37 -0500
Subject: Re: 1630 Feet

The 1630 walking foot my dealer is selling does not have a "prism" or a wide
enough hole for 9 mm stitches. It goes only as far as 5 mm. Is there a new
upgraded version, or am I misunderstanding. We had a sewing machine show last
weekend attended by Bernina reps and they couldn't answer why the walking
foot for 1630 couldn't do 9mm. What's going on?
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 19:40:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Now, I'm Bobbin along

What is "bobbin drawing"?

Joyce
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 20:59:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Bobbin Cases

Finally I have to add my info to this string.
The black latch bobbin case really is designed for larger threads.  It has a
longer screw so that you can loosen the tension enough to use larger threads.
 Sometimes (seems often if you've tried it) the screw comes out before you
can get it loose enough  on a reg. case, so they designed a longer screw to
allow less pressure by the b-case spring. The "handle-latch" is black so you
can know which is which.    If you look at the machinations required to get
such a fine  part, you cna understand why a bobbin case is expensive.  The
regular one is also if you have to replace it--just ask any homaking teacher
whose students have lost one!
Thanks,  Ida T
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 03:34:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/19/95

I have been reading with interest the discussion of cutting out an opening in
your walking feet.  Can the walking foot I have for my 930 be modified?  If
so I will mail it out soonest.  Thanks
Rici
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 08:32:23 EST
Subject: Re: Bernina Sergers

Bonnie, 

I think we should become Bernina dealers locally.  Really may be something to 
think about.  Small profit, perhaps, but what a fun thing.  May give ladies who 
think Berninas are too pricey a chance to indulge.  My serger is a 4 thread and 
a very basic, but satisfies my sewing needs. 
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Subject: 1630 Walking Foot
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 22:17:23 +0800 (WST)

Hi,

At the last 1630 Update meeting here (Perth, Australia) they said that the 1630
walking foot would be coming out in May or so. I don't know if we get stuff
earlier, at the same time or later than the US.  They gave me a non 1630 one
when
I purchased the machine and told me that they would trade it in when they got
them.  It works fine but is limited in width.

On another note,  my DH thinks that I need/must have a serger.  What do you use
one for?  I meant to take a class at the dealers where you can try any serger
you want and they show you all the fun stuff you can do.  Well Murphey's Law
prevailed and I ended up sitting and twiddling my thumbs at the immigration
ofice getting my visa renewed.  If I get the chance to go to this class again,
what Bernia serger should I choose?  What features are important?

Take care,
Kay
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 08:15:54 -0800
Subject: bobbin case and tension questions

Theresa G asks:
>Question: is there really a difference in the black latch bobbin case v.
>bobbin case sold separately and just marked with some identifying feature
>so as not to mix up the normal set case from the adjusted case?

I have been told that the black latch case does have a different 
tension than the regular, stainless steel latch.  That's why it's more 
expensive.  However, I have also been told by machine quilting 
teachers of all kinds that it probably doesn't make tons of difference 
as to what comes out - it generally will have the look you aim for 
regardless of the bobbin case you use.  Though there are some 
specialty threads that I've heard really do need the black latch case.

>When you adjust the bobbin tension screw on the case: which direction
>tightens it and which loosens it?

Righty-tighty, lefty-loosey-goosey.

>Example: when machine quilting free style with a beige thread on top, and
>burgandy in bobbin, I had small beige dots appear on the burgandy material
>on the backing. Would adjustments on a bobbin case make these 'dots'
>disappear?

I would play with the thread tension wheel before playing with the 
bobbin case.  Again, that's what all the "experts" counsel.  Also I've 
been taught to use very small increments when adjusting - one quarter 
turns only; then check the tension with the bounce test.

Regarding tensions, Maurine Noble, a Seattle-area teacher &former 
Bernina merchant, has an interesting exercise in her "Machine 
Quilting" book (new within the last couple of months; That Patchwork 
Place, publ.).  She takes a piece of muslin and marks lines across is 
horizontally in 1-2 inches widths.  Then she writes 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 
down the side.

______________________________

1
______________________________

2
______________________________

3
______________________________

etc

Then she sets the tension wheel to 1 and sews between number one and 
two; at the #2 line, she moves up the tension wheel to 2: and 
continues this up to tension setting #9-10.  Then look at your threads 
- what series look best to you for what you had in mind?  Sometimes 
you might want little bobbles to show from the bobbin thread, 
sometimes you may want the top thread to lay really flat, sometimes 
you might want it balanced, but that may not always be at the red 
line.  Experiment - different combinations of threads have different 
results, different stitches produce different effects.

I would recommend Maurine's book to anyone who is interested in 
machine quilting.  It's a little more try-this-exercise in style than 
H.Hargreave's book.  Also Maurine's talks about machine quilting that 
produces both the traditional look (like Hargreave's book) and 
non-traditional, "art" quilt effects, and has great illustrations.  
The exercise I outlined above is just one of several.

Ususal disclaimers - no association with Maurine except as a happy 
customer and pupil of hers.

--Pia
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 13:44:35 -0500
Subject: bernina phone number

that 800 number posted for Bernina is not correct. It is some decal company.
Also, I then called 1-800 info, and the number they gave me is a fax machine!
I live near Bernina, so I don't have to use the 800 number. But if you post a
number, you should probably check to make sure you post the correct number so
we don't all bother some innocent bystander.

RobbiE
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 14:42:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bobbin Cases

In answer to the other part of your question, if you want to tighten the 
tension, turn the screw clockwise. Obviously then, to loosen the tension, 
turn the screw counter clockwise. BUT, be careful, that screw is 
extremely sensitive. Never turn it more than 90 degrees (or 15 minutes, 
if you think of one complete turn as being the face of a clock). The test 
sew it. If it needs more adjustment in the same direction, turn it 
another 15 mins. If it needs adjustment in the other direction, go back 5 
mins. and then chech it. Keep narrowing in on it until it is the way you 
want it.
Now, how do you get back to where you started. Hopefully you kept track 
of all the 'clock' changes you made. If not go back to the standard 
setting. That's easy on any type of Oscillating Hook machine, whether 
it's a Bernina or not. ( For Berninas, they are all Oscillating Hook type 
except for the 1000 &1630 &some very early models.) To adjust the 
bobbin tension very closely to the factory standard on anOscillating or 
CB hook wind a bobbin with 120/2 ply white thread. Install the bobbin in 
the case. Remove the hook from the sewing machine and install the bobbin 
and case into the hook, exactly as you do when the hook is installed in 
the machine.Draw out about 18 inches of thread and suspend the hook, 
b.c., and bobbin as one complete unit. That unit should not descend. In 
other words the bobbin tension should just be tight enough to hold that 
weight. If you gently bobb your hand (like a yo yo) the unit should 
descend a couple of inches and then stop. If it doesn't do that then make 
the tension adjustments as I described above until it does. Any further 
adjustments needed to get a perfect stitch should be done to the top tension.

If you have a 1630 or any other rotary hook machine, you will be outa 
luck 'cuz you can't remove the hook and anyway, it's not the proper 
weight, even if you could. 

I've never tried to describe this adjustment other than in a face-to-face 
demonstration, so if this doesn't make sense to anyone, please let me know.

Ted H
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 17:40:03 -0500
Subject: Re: RE: Bernina Dealer Problems

You could use that 800 number for praise and glory as well! !  I think
sometimes we forget to say thanks for a job well done......Pat R
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 14:39:18 -0800
Subject: Machine Quilting

Hi everyone!  Well, this is my first experience with my walking foot.  I
have a 1010 and love it.  It's working great EXCEPT...

I am trying to sew diagonally across the quilt.  The walking foot does fine,
until I hit a seam--then it hangs up.  I get tiny little stitches, I have to
resort to lifiting the foot, rearranging the fabric, then continue sewing.
It doesn't make for very attractive quilting because the stitches are not
consistent.  What can I do to fix this?  Oh, by the way, the dealer checked
it out and I DO have the correct foot for this machine.  He thought the
problem was related to the invisible thread I was using on top and suggested
using the eyelet behind the handle for threading.  But that was before I
discovered the real problem--that of going over seams.

Claudia
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 18:57:12 -0500
Subject: Re: 1630 Walking Foot

Kay L, YOu sound like me--I'm not sure what I need a serger for either!  I
have used one at one of the quilt shops when I was making a skirt and it did
the seams really nice and finished them too so you do't have to zig zag them
or pink them.  Quilters seem to like them for seams too but I haven't exactly
figured out what is so much better about them than my plan old (wonderful!)
Bernina!  Let me know if you hear some reasons why you can't live without
one. Laura

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