Bernina Fan Club Archives

June 1995

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 15:07:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Why I upgraded to the 1630


I also traded up to a 1630 from a 1230, which like your 1130, I really liked.
 At the time I was psyched about the creative possibilities of the 9mm stitch
width, and especially the PC interface.

I was at first concerned about the change in hook mechanism, and the supposed
loss of stitch quality.  I've yet to really discern a difference in stich
quality.  The machine feels different, if nothing else the rotary hook has a
different rythym, and of course, the wider needle slot, feed dogs, and
presser feet.

The only real loss is the degree of auto-tension.  I never remember adjusting
my 1230 or 1130 very much, whereas the 1630 requires adjustment for extremes,
such as a heavy denim seam with three cord thread.

I have to tell you that at first I was a little disappointed with the
machine.  (So much so that when a 1130 was posted for sale at a reasonable
price I bought it as a backup!)  Since I've learned my way around it a bit
though, I've done some pretty neat stuff.  The 9mm satin stitch is really
beautiful, and the maxi stitches can produce incredible border designs.
 There are some very useful new practical stitches and programs as well.  The
buttonhole, as you may have heard, is great, but not enough to be the basis
for a trade-up.

It doesn't have a huge library of built in stitches, but what I've discovered
is that they are very good stitch components that can easily be combined to
form new stitches.  In fact, many of the stitches on other machines are
really just different combinations of the basic stitches.  Also, the program
keys offer additional flexibility. 

I also have the PC software, which is quite usable.  However, digitizing
embroidery stitches is painstaking work.  Scanning really only provides a
template over which you must plot stiches.  In the end though,
multi-directional feed dogs don't provide the precision that a computer
controlled hoop can.  So, if embroidered motifs are your interest, you might
want to consider one of the embroidery machines. 

For free motion work (which I have only dabbled) I prefer the 1130.  It's a
much smoother "ride" and threading the eye in the bobbin case (which doesn't
exist on the new bobbin) takes away the headache of fine tuning the tension.

Overall, I'd say that no matter what you do, hold on to the 1130.  That may
seem like an extravagance, but you can always sell the machine privately for
the trade-in value.  I think that the 1130/1230 series represent the best
combination of classic Bernina with modern electronics -- for most sewing.

If you'd like to experiment with machine decoration, but don't want to give
up Bernina quality, go for the 1630.  It still represents a quality and feel
I don't see in other machines.  

I didn't mean to go on so much!  Hope this helps rather than confuses.


Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 08:14:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Oiling, Lint

I really enjoy the newsletters! I, too, clean and oil my machine quite
frequently, since I am making a storm-at-sea quilt and with all those little
pieces, lint does build up. I clean my bobbin case and oil, as the book
requests. My machine (1230) runs like a top and I have really enjoyed the
many little projects I have done on it. Working, I don't get to sew but
an hour here, 30-minutes there!

Please hold all my mail for the next two weeks and restart on June 12.

Subject: Which one?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 05:58:00 PDT

I'm in the market for a new sewing machine, and have heard sooo much about 
how wonderful Berninas are.  BUT WHICH ONE SHOULD I GET???  I need it mainly 
for quilting, piecing as well as machine quilting and machine invisible 
applique.  Any comments?  Thanks.
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:06:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/31/95

Debbie- I have the same problem.  I can't get mine really clean because of
that film.  I have noticed lately that it is really oily in there and i
haven't oiled it.  
This machine makes me crazy sometimes.  

Date: 01 Jun 1995 09:24:09 MDT
Subject: Re: Why I Traded Up to the 1630

Thanks for your thorough analysis.  I don't want to give up the 1130 and I'll
take your comments into consideration to keep it even if I decide to purchase
an upgraded machine.
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:40:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Why I Traded Up to the 1630

I, too, can't see much difference between the straight stitch quality of my
old 1530 and new 1630.  However, I have not been able to get a good 9 mm wide
satin stitch.  How do you do it?  Mine tunnels.  Also I am interested in
getting the software.  How wide can you make designs?  I do not have the
upgrade board and my dealer says I won't need it for the program.
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:51:02 -0700
Subject: Oiling, lint

I'm not as good as some of you at maintaining my machine.  Several of
you talk about removing the throat plate and clearing out the lint
underneath.  I have a 1230, and it's not clear to me how to do this.
I look at the throat plate top, and I don't see any screw heads, only
things that look like rivets.  How do you get it off?

-- Anne P
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:14:53 EDT
Subject: Re: Which one??

I recommend you get a 1260 or a 1530.  You don't need to get a 1630 for
your needs.  In fact, either of those models should more than cover all
you'll ever need.

Ruth B
Subject: Best Sewing Machine
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 12:32:00 PDT

Thanks for all your replies to my question about sewing machines.  This is 
my first week with this group (or any group, for that matter), since my son 
taught me how to "surf the internet".  It looks like not many "quilt people" 
are too fond of the Bernina 1630.    There aren't too many Bernina dealers 
in my area, but I'm off tonight to see one of them.  I'll probably have more 
questions tomorrow!
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:18:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Which one??


You asked which Bernina to purchase. two cents worth is;  the
1530, IMHO (in my humble opinion) this is the best Bernina.  I've been a
Bernina owner since 1977 when my DH bought be the 830 when HE graduated from
college.  (yes, he's a real sweetie!)  I sewed on the 1230 at a quilting
retreat and I was HOOKED on the computer!  I really thought I would NEVER
want a different Bernina.  Best laid plans.........never say never!.  ;)
   So, I recommend the 1530.  I've been hearing too many problems with the
1630 even though my dealer keeps bugging me about upgrading.  I do not plan
to trade my 1530 for ANYTHING!!   ;D

I love this Bernina Group!  ;)

Happily quilting in my new "studio" in our basement.  It is 15' x 40' and ALL
MINE!  My Dh with the Ph.D.  designed and built me a 4' x 8' cutting table
that is 40" high.  He is a scientist and NOT a carpenter!  But the table is

Happy Quilting!
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 14:28:03 MST
Subject: Cleaning/Oiling

To remove your throat plate, drop the feed dogs and open the door to
the bobbin case...lift up on the front of the exposed plate and gently
pull up.  Next, remove the bobbin case and I think it is called the
race...thoroughly clean and put a TINY drop of oil where indicated in
your manual.  put everything back except the bobbin and bobbin case
and run the machine for a few sew...machine will purr
like a kitten.  One night at Bernina Club we had to bring our machines
and get a lesson in cleaning and oiling.  We had a certified Bernina
mechanic that night so I am pretty sure the information is
least works for me...machine never ran better.
Date: 01 Jun 1995 15:01:15 MDT
Subject: Oiling, lint

If it's the sameas the 1130 - lower your feed dogs, and slide backwards.

Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 19:12:14 -0700
Subject: Help! My Nina is Pink!

I just finished machine quilting a queen irish chain out of jewel tones only
to find out my Nina is now pink!  The Jenny Beyer backing (which was washed
twice before quilting) has bled onto my machine.

Does anyone know how to safely clean it?

Also, I'm now worried about washing the quilt.  I seem to recall reading
something about a presoak that would prevent bleeding.  Help???

                                 Pam P
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 00:12:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Which one??

I just bought the 1260 model.  I looked at the 1630, thought I would like it
since I'm really getting to computers these days.  After I bought mine, I
have heard so muach controversy about the 1630 I'm glad I chose the 1260.
 Mainly it depends on your budget, but if you can afford the 1260 I think it
is the best.  It has the knee lift and it is just a push the button and sew
machine.  I love it.  If you are not satisified with your machine you can
trade up within a year .  Ask your Bernina dealer about it. Jodi
Date: 01 Jun 95 19:34:01 EDT
Subject: Reply to: Re: Which One??

If you go with the 1630 you should have the ability to upgrade the software
rather than the machine in the future.
Date: 01 Jun 95 19:34:09 EDT
Subject: Best Sewing Machine

Jamie, I am a quilting teacher and LOVE the 1630!  I did get the walking foot
and straight stitch plate.  It does a wonderful job!
Date:          Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:19:55 EDT
Subject:       Re: Help!! My Nina is Pink!!

> to find out my Nina is now pink!  The Jenny Beyer backing (which was washed
> twice before quilting) has bled onto my machine.
> Does anyone know how to safely clean it?
    Pam:  I read somewhere that you can clean the surface of your 
Nina with lemon oil.  I've not tried it.  Good luck.

Bonnie V
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:53:40 -0400
Subject: RE: Help! My Nina is Pink!

I had this happen once and am relieved in a way that it happens to other
people.  I washed my machine (not a nina at the time) with a mild cleanser
which really didn't touch the coloration.

Over time, the color just went away.  Never noticed it on any thing else, not
even white fabric.

The "offending" fabric had been prewashed, but obviously still had dye
crocking off....  The quilt I was machine quilting when this happened is a
big quilt but hangs in my parents house, so I doubt it  has been washed yet.
 I do not expect "running" type problems, since most dye that crocks just
goes away with the water, it doesn't go and "live" in some other fabric.

Mary Beth
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 09:14:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Why I Traded up to the 1630

If your stitch is tunneling then you can try two things. One is to use a
stabilizer- the type depends on how you are going to care for the piece after
it is done. Or try loosening the top tension a bit, so that the thread lays
on top of the fabric.Good Luck
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 09:26:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/1/95

To Jamie Smith who says she uses a sewing machine for  ... I'm gonna do my broken record number and say again that the
Bernina 1080 is the best machine I have ever had for all-purpose sewin
requirements.  It's computerized, can be had on sale for about $1,000 ...
does everything it does very well, rarely needs adjustment, and has been
trouble free for the 1 1/2 years I have had it.  It is the best general
sewing (nothing fancy) machine I have ever had/used.  The 1090 costs $1000
more (on sale), and the big difference is a lever to push with thigh . for
raising the presser foot.  I couldn't justify another $1000 for that feature
and have not missed it.  (But then again, one doesn't miss what one never

Hope this ... along with others' opinions helps.  Jamie, there's no
substitute for going to a dealer and trying out as many machines as you can!

Dear Pam,
Re:  Jinny Beyer Fabric bleeding/clean machine/wash quilt

I'd wash that quilt in Synthrapol to remove extra dye and prevent bleeding
... follow directions on bottle.  And for the machine, isopropyl alcohol on a
cotton ball may do it.  If not, mix some with Ivory liquid and wash gently
with a damp cloth (wrung out so nothing drips on machine).  Failing that,
Synthrapol should not hurt the machine, and you could try it straight.

For what it's worth, we've found that many Jinny Beyer fabrics (this could be
true of RJR fabrics in general) in redder tones are "bleeders" and require
Retayne as a prewash to set dye, followed by Synthrapol to wash out excess...

For what it's worth, we've found that many Jinny Beyer fabrics (this could be
true of RJR fabrics in general) in redder tones are "bleeders" and require
Retayne as a prewash to set dye, followed by Synthrapol to wash out excess...

If you cannot find Synthrapol at your local art supply store (some carry it),
PineTree Quiltworks discount quilting supplies does carry it ...
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:19:39 +0500
Subject: 1630 reliability

I bought a 1630 last December and I've been happy with it, but I was
disturbed to read all the negative comments about it on this list.

Mine is the "new" version, so maybe it has all the latest upgrades.
It sews beautifully and I like the idea that it can be upgraded
without having to buy a whole new machine. 

I use it mainly for piecing quilts and I'm learning how to do
machine quilting.  I haven't had any problems, but I talked to
my dealer about what I heard on this list.  I was even ready
to trade for a 1260 if I could (I'm a worry-wart!).

My dealer said that they have not had any complaints about the
1630.  I did have to take it in once to have the tension 
adjusted, but the repair man says that an adjustment to 
Berninas after shipping is not unusual.  They also said that the 
rotary hook is used in Bernina's commercial machines.  They gave
me a brief history lesson saying that the rotary hook was
first tried out on the 1000 and 1001 models to see how it
would do.  Once that was successful, they tried the computer
software out on the 1530.  Both were well received so they
put them together in the 1630.  They also emphasized that
Bernina stands behind their products.

They did say that it's very important to hold the threads
when you start a seam on the rotary hook models.  Otherwise,
they'll be drawn into the bobbin area and can jam.  I always
hold the threads anyway, so that's not a problem with me.
In fact other folks had problems during the class with thread 
jamming (even the 1260!).

Are there any other happy 1630 owners?

Monica T
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:45:39 +0500
Subject: Waxing your machine

I was told that you should use a good quality car wax on your
Bernina to protect the paint.  It also allows your fabric to
slide more easily.  This may have prevented the dye from
staining the paint on your 'nina.

Don't wax painted plastic surfaces - just the paint that's
on a metal base!

Monica T
Subject: Re: Help!! My 'Nina is Pink!! 
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 95 12:10:28 -0400

Orange oil is a very powerful solvent that is being used more and more
these days in cleaning solutions as a safe (for people) and
environmentally friendly ingredient.  Problem is, orange oil really is
so very good at dissolving things, sometimes it can dissolve something
you want to keep!

While bare metal and glass are probably okay, I would be very cautious
about using orange or lemon oil on plastic or any surface with a
finish.  Rub a bit on a hidden area and make sure it doesn't dull the
shiny surface before using it all over your machine.

Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 14:08:16 -0400
Subject: Which One?

I was in the market for a new sewing machine in December '94.  I had a 1030
and loved it (although it was un-computerized), but my wonderful husband
thought I should get an upgrade (he's a computer consultant and a tech
weenie--you should see our stereo system--but that's another story!).  We
sold my 1030 to a friend (who loves it--she was sewing on her great aunt's
ancient Singer) and we bought  a 1530.  I had looked at both 1530 and 1630
and for the money, I chose the 1530.  I do not embroider a great deal, but I
am a quilting newbie and I sew clothing A LOT!!  The 1530 deals with my
needs perfectly.
I would suggest before buying though, to go to your dealer and sit down for
an hour or two and try out different models.  Buy the one that suits you and
your needs the best!  Good Luck on your new purchase!
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 16:34:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Why I Traded up to the 1630


I too had some tunnelling problems at first.  It took me a while to realize
how different it was sewing with a 9mm stitch!  You'll find a selection of
stabilizers in various weights will really help.  I keep scraps around now
for everything from mending clothes to sewing buttonholes on surfaces that
might otherwise catch on the feed dogs.

Your dealer is right about not needing the upgrade to use the software.  If I
remember correctly, the only difference with the upgrade is that you can save
a stitch design from the PC to a blank memory key.  My dealer made me a great
price on the upgrade and software together, so it didn't represent a
significant expenditure to have the upgrade.

Technically, you can design stitches several inches in diameter, but
practically speaking, witih anything larger than two inches or so it might be
difficult to achieve an accurate pattern.  (That's not just the 1630, but any
machine using multi-directional feed dogs rather than a hoop to move the
fabric.)  Still, if the pattern doesn't involve many points that must meet,
you can get away with larger designs.

I really haven't used the software enough to say too much more.  Hope this


Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 17:02:21 -0400
Subject: Bernina Walking Foot

Has anyone purchased the newest walking foot (supposedly made to be used with
the 1630 as well as other machines)? I was at my Bernina dealers today to ask
his opinion about Harriet Hargrave's idea of cutting the bar off the center
of the walking foot to improve visibility. He didn't recommend it, but showed
me the new foot which has much larger openings and less metal to get in the
way of my sightline. My foot doesn't have the quilting guide like the newer
ones, but for $85 I'd like to hear about others experiences with the foot.
It's hard to believe that the same foot can work on the 1630 and my 1230. Sue
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 21:48:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Which One?

Alas, what a problem.  I love my Bernina 1530 but I am frustrated because I
want to create on the PC.  I have heard not good things about the 1630, and
frankly, one of the fabric stores is not in a hurry to sell me one.  So I am
considering buying another machine.  I do not want to sell Bernie, but the
problem is how to justify owning  two expensive computerized sewing
machines??  Maybe it's just me.  My husband is also a stereo freak, not a nut
any more.  His system is expensive and he buys and sells all the time.  Why
do I feel guilty? Oh well, any recommendations from you experienced Bernina
owners on the Pfaff 7550 as a second machine?  The store I currently work for
is now selling them and it would help if I did my samples on this machine.
 See my dilemna.... Oh well.


Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 06:39:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Which One?I Love my 1630

Believe it or not there are people out here who do like our 1630's.  Yes it
is different, you do have to fiddle with the tension in some very special
situations, but my machine works great for me.  Some of the designs are
babyish but I used sulky to sew some of the flowers onto my dayghter's
homecomming dress and it was beautiful. The reverse and mirror stitches were
I, too want to use the computer hook up and like an idiot was too busy to go
buy the program while it was on sale.  

You will always here more negative comments than positive ones.
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1995 08:33:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RE:Which one?

Adeline - You are experiencing exactly the same problem I am, only I
actually bought the 1630 since I needed a new machine , wanted the
computerized features and relied on the good reputation of Bernina.
I should have done more testing before I shelled out so much money. My
dealer says I can trade it in for the Viking no. 1+, plus an extra
$500.00 or so, but I don't want that. I want the Pfaff 7550, and my
dealer does not sell Pfaffs. The 1630 is not all bad, but for the price
I paid I don't feel I got my money's worth. The tension is not automatic, 
the bobbin winding system is sheer horror, it is totally user-unfriendly
(you have the be constantly re-reading the instructions), the large
embroidery designs often come out distorted, the stitch designer system
is so crude it is almost useless. I feel that the Pfaff is a much better
value for the money. The built in walking foot is its best feature, and
there are more design elements that can be combined. I guess I am not
qualified to rate one overall better than the other, but for me the
Pfaff would have been a better buy, and I may get it yet and keep both!
          I don't think we should feel guilty about having both. You only
have to read The Creative Machine to see that there are plenty of people
with 3 or even more machines, and apparently use them all. Hey, if you
can afford it and still keep the wolf from the door, go for it!
         Let me know how you make out.
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 09:26:51 -0400
Subject: Thread-eating Machine

Here is a little hint that I can't remember who gave it to me so I could
give them credit.  I always keep a small scrap of fabric (folded) under the
foot.  In fact, I have two of them.  I sew off the first one onto the
garment or piece I am working on and off onto the second one where it then
becomes the one to sew off of.  Not only does this keep your machine from
eating threads, it cuts way down on the thread that you find on the floor
and stuck to yourself.  I would think that, over time, it would even save on
the cost of thread, but that would be a long time and not a consideration
for doing it.  I think I learned this method when I learned to chain piece
in quilting.
Date: 03 Jun 95 10:32:49 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/28/95

Hi Roni,
     I have been in our local Bernina Club for six years and my favorite
meetings have been the projects that revolve around a different use for a foot.
Makes sense from a dealer standpoint as we all leave with the featured foot.
     I would like to trade Bernina Club ideas with other areas.
Date: 03 Jun 95 10:38:10 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/29/95

The Canadian Bernina U is in Toronto, August 7-13.
I am only going for Friday night to Sunday.  If you need more info I can look up
my brochure for you.
Date: 03 Jun 95 10:39:47 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/29/95

Hi Marybeth,
     Anyone can go to Bernina U.  There are classes, fashion shows, dinners,
Date: 03 Jun 95 10:54:20 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/1/95

Hi Pam,
     I use white vinegar and water as a presoak.  Also, please be careful what
you use to clean the machine.  When my son was 2 he was sitting next to me and
my 1130 as I sewed and I found out too late that he was holding a sharpie marker
up to the side wheel as it turned.  My DH used lacquer thinner and my 1130 now
has a rough, dull finish.  Try alcohol or a laundry stain remover like shout.
Good Luck!
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1995 11:15:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/2/95

Just a little correction... nobody should pay 2000$ for a 1090!

>Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/1/9

>(...) I'm gonna do my broken record number and say again that the
>Bernina 1080 is the best machine I have ever had for all-purpose sewin
>requirements.  It's computerized, can be had on sale for about $1,000 ...
>does everything it does very well, rarely needs adjustment, and has been
>trouble free for the 1 1/2 years I have had it.  It is the best general
>sewing (nothing fancy) machine I have ever had/used.  The 1090 costs $1000
>more (on sale), and the big difference is a lever to push with thigh . for
>raising the presser foot.  I couldn't justify another $1000 for that feature
>and have not missed it.  (But then again, one doesn't miss what one never

I bought a 1090 in 5/93 for 1325$. They have hovered in price between
1400-1500$.  So that's about 450$ more only.  In addition, the 1090 came
with the extension table and  hard case, retractable cables.  Substract that
from the price difference and you would have very little left to account for
the knee lift and the basting (long stitch) button.

I'm sure that Addy has all the reasons to be satisfied with the 1080.
Personally, I'd recommend the 1090.  Over the lifetime of the machine, the
$$ difference amounts to little while the added convenience amounts to a
whole lot!

While the 1090 is almost the same as the 1080, the knee lift IS invaluable.
Ask anyone who's had one for more than 1/2 and hour and they'll tell you
they wouldn't do without it :)

Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 12:21:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/2/95

I love my 1630 too.  I just finished a vest for my daughter's first grade
teacher.  It is the apple vest from Cindy Taylor oates book, came out great.
 The satin stitching is top notch, I used some fancy threads, metallics and
rayons, it looks great.  
I used Totally Stable, as my stabilizer, lI love that stuff.  It works great
with my Bernina.
I heard once to use Turtle Car wax on your Bernina to help the fabric slide
around during free motion machine quilting.  I haven't tried it, has anyone?

Hugging my machine.

Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 12:33:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Bleeding fabrics

I've used both Synthrapol and Retayne very successfully.  I thought my DH's
rugby shirt would have to go into the rag bag, but a couple of washings in
Synthropol got out all the bleeding.  He thought I was a genius (let's not
tell him the truth, ok?).  

I now prewash in Retayne -- can be had from Pine Tree QuiltWorks -- all the time.  I've had too many fabrics bleed when I do a final
wash.  Very frustrating!
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 13:00:04 -0400
Subject: I love my 1630

I've only had it since November, but I use it a lot and have had no problems.
The problems I have heard people complain about seem more related to the fact
that you have to adjust the top tension when you are doing fancy stuff. If
you drop your top tension and use a stabilizer you should eliminate any
tunneling problem. This problem is not caused by the Bernina 1630, it is
caused because you are making very wide stitches. You will have to lower the
top tension somehow and stablilize on any machine that does wide stitching.
The means to accomplish it just may be different. When you thread the bobbin
case on the oscilating hook machines, you are increasing the bobbin tension,
and then if the machine adjusts the tension to equilize it, you are in effect
lowering the top tension. I have yet to hear from people who are having
problems that cannot be attributed to "pilot error". 

If I turned my Bernina red I would be calling my dealer and asking them what
to do. Cleaning the surface of the machine with solvents does not sound like
a good idea to me. I would like to reiterate that when you buy a machine you
should take the lessons that come with it, and learn how to clean and oil
your machine. I bought my machine from a nearby dealer who gives me a lot of
support, in fact  I often ask them questions I see here. I am not demeaning
the type of questions, it just worries me people are not getting what they
pay for when they buy a machine. YOu pay for dealer support. 

I highly recommend buying a Bernina with the knee lift. I will never have
another machine without it. I don't always remember to use it, but I quilt.
And I can chain piece really fast when I use the needle down option and the
knee lever, I just slide those suckers right under the foot, butt them
against the needle and keep going. 

I have sewn on a Pfaff 7550, and I am happier that I bought a Bernina. The
Bernina seems more solid. The new Pfaff 1/4inch foot is $25. So to me that
eliminates the advantage of the Pfaff feet being cheaper.

Well, that's all I have to add. Have a great weekend!
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 21:26:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/29/95

Dear Carol C....thanks so much for responding to my post about Bernina
University!  I was beginning to think that noone would be able to answer my
question!  I am glad that anyone can attend. It sounds great :)
  I have a 1630 and just LOVE it!  I paid alot for it and I don't use it as
much as I should. (the Bernina is worth MORE than my car!!!)
   Next question...does anyone know when the next Bernina University will be?

Mary Beth
Date: Sun,  4 Jun 95 07:43:54 PDT
Subject: Shopping for machines

I just want to urge everyone who is thinking of buying a machine to shop 
around.  When I bought my 1090 in 1993 I called several shops in my area to 
compare price.  $2000 is way too much for a 1090!  I finally found a great 
deal on mine for $1250, including a class and I didn't have to trade in my 
old machine meaning that I could sell it and further reduce the Bernina's 
cost!  The shop where I bought is 40 minutes away and they are good.  I also 
live two miles from a different store who would have let me buy a 1090 for 
$1800 *and* my other machine.  I'm *very* happy that I shopped around!

Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 09:45:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/3/95

To Sylvain,

I would have bought the 1090 if our local dealer had had a deal that  made
sense!  My experience is with the 1080, and I agree, the convenience would be
worth some extra, but not twice the $$$.  Still, I'm happy with my 1080, and
since I never had the lifter, I don't miss it.  But you're right ... it would
be nice, but I can't get a decent price in southern Maine and now have a 1080
I love.  Anyone got a used 1090????  (I mean it!)

All best --Addy
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 1995 09:39:58 -0600
Subject: Re: Which One?

>Alas, what a problem.  I love my Bernina 1530 but I am frustrated because I
>want to create on the PC.  I have heard not good things about the 1630, and
>frankly, one of the fabric stores is not in a hurry to sell me one.  So I am
>considering buying another machine.  I do not want to sell Bernie, but the
>problem is how to justify owning  two expensive computerized sewing
>machines??  Maybe it's just me.  My husband is also a stereo freak, not a nut
>any more.  His system is expensive and he buys and sells all the time.  Why
>do I feel guilty? Oh well, any recommendations from you experienced Bernina
>owners on the Pfaff 7550 as a second machine?  The store I currently work for
>is now selling them and it would help if I did my samples on this machine.
> See my dilemna.... Oh well.

Let's see. Where do I begin?  I have a Pfaff 1475, a Brother PC 7000 (including embroidery), a Bernina 1260, and have tried all the others.  The basic problem with the new PC machines including the 1475 is the design is driven by the 9mm stitch width.  This has required the hook to accomodate a lot of needle positions and the stitch shows it.  The PC features are still in development and only work if you spend a lot of time in the design by testing over and over.  The embroidery features on the PC 7000 which are preprogramed are outstanding,  but it has limited flexibility beyond that.  A terrific feature is the automated thread cutter.
If you are willing to play with the machine I would say the 7550 and the 1630 are fine - though tuneups are essential, if you want to sew go for the 1260.  I might mention I started my computer age sewing with a Viking and after 3 failures at about 6 month intervals I traded it in.  That was 6 years ago.

Just my thoughts.  Mary M

Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 12:27:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/1/95


I would have to agree with you on the knee lifter.  Couldn't live without it.
 When I sit down in front of my serger I always feel a little disoriented
until I remember that I have to use the lever to lift the presser foot!

Ray F


La journee n'est jamais perdue; elle survit dans nos souvenirs.
Subject: Bias Binder Feet
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 95 10:54:19 EDT

	I'm going to be applying bias binding "big time" in the next
couple of months.  I've done about 5 yards of the stuff already, using
my standard #0 presser foot, and desperately want to find a better
way.  My two big problems are applying the binding around gentle curves
(I sometimes don't catch the material in the binding), and that I have
to press the middle crease in the binding, since it comes flat on a 
tube (the binding already has the two edges pressed to the center, 
but I need the middle crease to make sewing it onto the material easier).
	I know that Bernina sells bias binder feet (a #85 and a #84/#94
combo).  Will either of these feet help with my two problems, and what's
the difference between the #85 and the #84/#94?  Also, about how much
($$$) will these guys set me back (they sure don't look like they cost
the usual $20/foot 8^)  ).  Thanks in advance.

P. S. One other question...I have a small illustration of the #85, and
can't tell if it's a true Bernina foot, or just a generic low shank that
needs an adaptor.
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 09:49:32 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Bias Binder Feet

Hi Susan and everybody.

For our anniversary, my DH ordered a 1530 via a very good friend of ours
in Santa Cruz, CA.  I won't quote prices, but let me assure you the 
prices here in Honolulu would leave you gasping.  Since we're leaving in 
a year's time, my only interest is Bernina's warranty.

Back to Bias Binder Feet...sorry I cannot help you here.  However, if 
these accessories are stretching your budget, you can baste your edges 
with fusible thread, press your binding, and use your walking foot to 
sew the binding evenly on.  No problem if you don't have a walking foot.  
Since the binding is fused, you no longer have to struggle to keep it 
lined up with your edges (providing you pressed it right). 

I've been lurking here ever since the 1530 was ordered and have been 
joyful that we avoided the 1630 which, decidedly, is more than my needs 
require.  In truth, the 1260 was just right for me...greedy me..I reached 
for the moon!!

Date: Sun, 04 Jun 1995 19:51:45 EDT
Subject: Re: Which one??

It sounds like your Bernina dealer needs to learn how to
adjust and/or repair your 1630.  I'm not having the
bobbin-winding problem and my designs come out perfect if I 
draw a vertical and horizontal line on my fabric so that I
can guide the fabric slightly. 
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 1995 19:41:58 EDT
Subject: 1630 Reliability

Yes, I'm a happy 1630 owner.  I've had mine since November. 
Had some problems with automatic buttonholer but all-in-all 
it is an impressive machine with loads of creative
possibilities.  If one isn't interested in too much
"creativity" then perhaps a more basic model is better, but 
I enjoy having a state-of-the art machine.

I, too, have gotten a little nervous over the negative
comments.  But then I ask myself if I would go back to my
trusty 930 which I still have, and the answer is always NO! 
Subject: Re: Bias Binder Feet
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 23:14:13 -0700 (PDT)

> P. S. One other question...I have a small illustration of the #85, and
> can't tell if it's a true Bernina foot, or just a generic low shank that
> needs an adaptor. 
I can help you with this part - it's a generic low shank that needs an
adapter. I can't tell you how great it is yet, because I haven't had
a chance to really use it yet. It was expensive, but not as
expensive as the other one. (Which was the one I went into the store
to get, but about died when I heard how much it was.)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 06:41:33 -0400
Subject: Re: 1630 bobbin winder

My bobbin winder is fool-even idiot proof.  It is even easier than the 1530
since it is easier to catch the end of the thread on the bobbin.  There must
be something wrong with your machine.  The  wide stitches work well, too.  I
really have had no problem with either.
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 08:01:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Walking Foot

>> but for $85 I'd like to hear about others experiences with the foot.
It's hard to believe that the same foot can work on the 1630 and my 1230.
I purchased a newer model walking foot that I was told would work with all
machines (I have an 801). The foot was much wider than my feed dogs and only
sat on one of them. It seemed to work but I was uneasy about it. According to
Harriet Hargraves, there are about 3 walking feet available to fit various
machines since the feed dogs are different widths. The 1630 is wider than the
earlier series. I was told also that Bernina is only making the widest one
now as a "universal" foot for all machines. I'm not sure what the logic is
there. I was able to find a used one that fit my machine from Harriet's shop
and had it adapted. I'm very happy with the results. I use it only for
quilting and the adaptations allow me to see and to avoid the hang-ups at
seams where there are multiple layers of fabric. I am hoping to upgrade to a
1260 this fall (when I might get my life back) and hope that the "new" foot
that I have will fit well.
Hope this helps. It seems to be an ongoing dilemma. 
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 07:14:09 EDT
Subject: Re: Which One??

I tried a Viking 1+ last Saturday and was greatly disappointed.  The
machine itself seemed "rickety" and the outline stitches around the bigger
designs didn't aways match up the the designs and looked weak.  I thought I
should hug my substantial 1630 after that.  I'm really curious about the
upcoming New Home 9000.  The stitch texture on the New Home 8000 has always
been superior to the several embroidery machines (Pacesetter, Esante and
Bernette Deco 500), which are all the same machine.  The new New Home is
coming out in June, but won't be available for sale (so I'm told) until
early fall when the dealers have gotten their training.

Ruth B
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 07:27:22 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Walking Foot

I haven't had any experience with the 1230, but the new big walking foot
works very well with the 1630 and visability is no problem.  Also, it comes
standard with quilting bars for both the right and left sides.  I find them
useful for a great number of tasks.

Ruth B
Date:         Mon, 05 Jun 95 08:19:52 EDT
Subject:      Re: Bernina Digest 6/4/95

JoAnn in Baltimore posted in yesterday's Digest that she had found considerable
price variation in comparison shopping among Bernina dealers in her area.
Several of us on the newsgroup are from the Baltimore area.  Would you please
post information about who was high and who was low (priced)?  It would be
good information to know.


Date: 05 Jun 95 09:59:02 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 6/3/95

Sue,  I just heard on Compuserve that Bernina has a new 1630 Key *quilting*
coming out soon.  Do you know when it will be available?
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 09:13:06 EDT
Subject: Re: 1630 Bobbin Winder

I have no problem with the bobbin winder.  Before winding, pull the thread
through on of the bigger holes.  Hold on to it and start to auto-wind.
Stop &cut the thread you're holding and finish winding.  Maybe that will

Ruth B
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:42:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Could it be the heat and ...

Since the humidity has not really that that high here in Maryland yet, the
problem could be the dust and pollen in the air.  I just finally turned on
the air conditioner in my house over the weekend and I haven't had any
problems with my machine.  The one problem that I have noticed here in
central Maryland is the high pollen counts.  The pollen coats everything.  If
you are leaving your windows open that could be the problem.  

I do a fast clean on my machine when I change the bobbin if I am in the
middle of a project.  I clean it totally before I start a new project though.
 One thing that I do though is to keep a can of canned air near my machine.
 Before I start to sew, I use this to blow off any dust that may have settled
on the machine.  I will also periodically use it while I am sewing.  I take
off the throat plate and use it to blow out any lint after an hour or so of
sewing.  This seems to make a difference.

Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 13:59:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Bernina advertising

   I have noticed Bernina has not advertised for the last 2 months in either
Sew News or Threads. Does anyone know why?

Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 13:55:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 1630 Bobbin Winder

CAarol - You say" it is easier to catch the end of the thread on the bobbin"
and I am mystified. The 1630 bobbin winder has you wrapping the thread around
a post, then threading it thru a small hole in the inside of the bobbin (from
inside to outside), then keeping hold of it until you get the bobbin on the
spindle and anchored, then holding on tight while you give it the gas and can
no longer hold onto the thread, and maybe it winds and maybe it doesn't. 
I am used to the easy bobbin winding of my old Viking, which simply took the
thread directly from the needle, then over a hook and over the bobbin winder
and wound with no trouble. You also knew which side of the bobbin to insert
in the shuttle wwith no thought, and it always worked. YOu could also insert
the shuttle in the race without almost breaking your wrist, and this is not
so for me with the 1630. It often does not go in right, with resulting havoc.
      Do you have some easier method?
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:16:35 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Threads

Hi Everyone.

July Issue of Threads has good tips on caring for your sewing machine.  I 
like his tip of masking tape a straw to cordless hand vacuum.

Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:32:15 -0400
Subject: Darning on Ninas

Hi all!

A good friend of mine who has a 1230 was asked by her SO "can that fancy and
expensive machine darn socks?"  So my buddy called me up and I'm stumped!
 Heck, when the holes got to big in my socks, I just tossed them and bought
new socks :-D.  Of course my mother wouldn't agree with my method, but hey.
 My friend's SO darns his own socks (can you believe it!!!).   So the $64.00
question is....can a Nina darn a sock, and if it can, HOW?????.  Thanks!

Piece in peace,
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:42:54 -0400
Subject: Re:  I want to purchase the 807

Hi Gals,

Is anyone interested in selling an 807?  Or one of the smaller Bernina with
the knee lift (can't live wothout it!)  I'd like a small Bernina to take to
workshops, etc.   My dealer says he NEVER gets one in for sale but I am
interested in purchasing one for myself.  Or do one of you have a
recommendation on which small Bernina might also fit my needs.  I currently
have the 1530 and ADORE it! 

E-mail me privately.

Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 00:03:32 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Which One ??

The info. I've received on the NH 9000 is that this will be a VERY 
expensive machine!  There will also be a new scanner.  The dealer I spoke 
to says she hopes to have it in the store this month!  It's going to be 

Date: Tue,  6 Jun 95 08:21:28 PDT
Subject: Berninas in Baltimore

In response to Anita's request:

Creative Needle Magic was high.  J&L was pretty good, I think their offer was 
$1300 or so plus my trade-in and I think they have a better class support 
system than where I bought my machine.  I bought my 1090 at Sew n Save in 
Aberdeen.  When I called to ask about price, the owner, Bill, asked me what 
the best price I had gotten so far was.  When I told him, he knocked $50.00 
off that price and never mentioned a trade-in.  At the time, they didn't have 
a Bernina Club but they have started one recently and they are always very 
friendly and willing to bend over backwards to help me.  Hope this helps ( 
and I hope it isn't bad nettiquette to mention names)

Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:52:15 -0400
Subject: Re: 1630 Bobbin Winder(how to)

I don't know what post you are talking about.  To wind a 1630 bobbin:
Hold the empty bobbin in your left hand.
Wrap the thread around the guide.
Stick the thread through one of the holes in the bobbin, inside to outside.
Put the bobbin on the winder, hold the end of the thread, flip the lever over
and  step on the foot pedal
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:40:28 -0400
Subject: Yes, Berninas can darn.

My 1630 guide has directions on how to darn socks, it even has a program
specially designed to darn socks. 

When I got married 15 years ago, my husband asked me to darn his socks. Not
having a clue I called his mother and she said she would never darn socks
because it causes a hard firm patch on the sock which is uncomfortable. So I
told my husband to stuff his old socks... in the garbage.

I would be more concerned that your friends SO asked her to do menial labor
than finding out how to do it. But then that is just me. ;-)
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:25:56 -0400
Subject: Good price 

On June 6 Anita Henck asked about good prices in the Baltimore area.  That
should be  close enough to Delaware to think about buying a machine there
where there's no sales tax.  I live in Pennsylvania but bought my Bernina a
month ago at Hayes in Wilmington (inconvenient for you, as it's on the
northern end of Wilmington, but I expect you can find a dealer closer to
you).  I saved a little over a hudnred dollars just by driving an extra 20
minutes each way.and that's after I found a price that I liked.
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 11:07:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Good Price

Try also MD Sew &Vac in  Clinton, MD.  They are right off I95 near Andrews
AFB.  I drive 2 hours to shop there.
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 12:31:49 +0500
Subject: Darning
Content-Length: 367

In my getting-to-know-your-Bernina class last week, the instructor
said that if you darn socks, be sure to use natural fiber thread.
Polyester thread will rub the foot and cause a blister.

Most people in the class said - just throw them away!  However,
the instructor covered darning as a good introduction to free-motion

Monica T
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 10:31:41 MST
Subject: RE: Bernina U and serger recommendations

I have the funlock and love it...primarily I quilt but do make an awful
lot of sports type like a dream.....for some garments
I use my machine and finish edges with serger...again a's
not the most expensive Bernina serger but certainly suits my needs...
oft repeated advice....try all models before you decide....also, make
dealers use any colour of thread except doesn't not show
stitch imperfections ...I didn't believe this one till I started looking
at threaded machines at dealers....they are all threaded with pink....
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 14:01:01 EST
Subject: good prices

>>Try also MD Sew &Vac in  Clinton, MD.  They are right off I95 near Andrews
AFB.  I drive 2 hours to shop there.

Their new phone number is 301-856-7200
I-95 exit 7A
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:11:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Darning on Ninas

Use polyester thread to darn with and they will never ask again!!!!!!!!!!!!
Talk about a blister..........Pat
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:45:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Darning

The whole idea of using polyester thread is to cause a blister.  Anyone who
is too cheap to go out and buy a new pair of socks deserves the blister!!!!  

The only reason I would darn a sock is if it is one that I had hand knitted
and that would be because of the time that I had put into making the thing.  

Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 15:05:25 -0400
Subject: Cleaning Nina

I recently bought a used 1230 (which i love:) that could use a surface
cleaning.  There was aome accumulated hand secretions, further coated with a
bit of mechanic grime (after behind reviewed in the shop prior to sale).

The dealer told me he used hand degreaser to clean the surface of the
machines.  Since it is not a harsh organic solvent (as paint thinner would
be), he told me it would not damage the surfaces.  I went ahead and used the
"orange cleaner' I had bought to clean my hands after doing oil changes on
our car (available in most dept stores).  I believe it's active ingredient
is orange oil (don't leave the stuff within kiddo reach: it smells like real
oranges - havent tested for taste :)

The cleaner did wonders on nina.  I first tested in a 'back corner' and
veryfied  (throughout the whole cleaning) that it did not remove any of the
paint.  Both the baked/painted metal and plastic surfaces came out shining
clean, with no sign of any beige ('almond') residue on the rag.  The plastic
covers did not get marred, to the contrary.  I did notice a difference in
the 'drag coefficient' of the sewing surfaces:  they're now slicker, given
that the finger grime is removed.

A word of caution:
While this approach came to me recommended by my dealer and the orange
cleaner worked very well for me, I still would be careful in what products I
would use.  Hand degreasers tend to be milder (or they wouldn't be approved
for skin contact) than commercial degreasers that are not intended for human
skin.  I wouldn't use the stuff sold to clean (de-smudge) car engines for
instance.  And whatever cleaner I use (dishwashing detergent would do if
grime is not allowed to build up), a soft cloth is always in order...

Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:40:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Darning on Ninas

Gee, I've been darning socks on the machine since my 830!  I know it seems
crazy for a $2 or $3 pair of socks, but it is so easy and takes about five
minutes.  (Now you're all going to call me a cheapskate!)

While the 1630 does the multi-directional mending, I still prefer using  the
darning ring that is supplied with the machine (which would be the method for
the 1230).  Slip the sock over the free arm and ring, and follow instructions
for free-motion darning.  Please do use cotton thread, and don't overdo the
darning or you will create a lump.  I've worn many a darned sock (especially
gym socks which seem to pop holes after the third washing) without any

Who knows, maybe darned socks will become the next street fashion.


Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:18:13 +0500
Subject: Directional stitching/quilting

The 1630 is capable of stitching in 16 directions.  As I was
pondering the difficulties of machine quilting a large log
cabin quilt, it occurred to me that this might be a good
use of the sideways motion. That is, stitch normally,
stitch to the left, stitch backwards, stitch right,
etc. and I wouldn't have to wrestle twisting the quilt
under the presserfoot to go in each new direction.

Has anyone tried this?  Does the walking foot work with
the sideways stitches?  I don't have the new walking
foot (my dealer is out of stock) or else I'd try this.

Monica T
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 13:37:06 -0700
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/29/95

You wrote: 
>Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 21:26:00 -0400
>Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/29/95
>Dear Carol ....thanks so much for responding to my post about 
Bernina >University!  I was beginning to think that noone would be able 
to answer my
>question!  I am glad that anyone can attend. It sounds great :)
>  I have a 1630 and just LOVE it!  I paid alot for it and I don't use 
it as
>much as I should. (the Bernina is worth MORE than my car!!!)
>   Next question...does anyone know when the next Bernina University 
will be?

I am new to the club so I did not see the original posting but I am 
really interested in attending as well.  I heard there is something in 
July in Washington, DC.   Does anyone know more - like how to enroll, 
etc?  This is soooo exciting.  I just got my 1630 on Thursday and now 
my husband keeps asking when I'm going to leave the machine.  I love 
it.  I start classes from the dealer on Monday and am really excited 
about the possibilities.  I am new to sewing after a 20 year break.  I 
used to sew alot back then but drifted away from it.  Now I am back in 
classes and thrilled to be creative again.  Sorry to blather on.  
Looking forward to lurking here.
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:54:44 -0500
Subject: Darning socks

June 6

It is possible to darn socks with a 930 so I'm sure you can darn with the
newer Berninas also.  My husband always puts his socks in to be darned and
it is so easy that I do darn them if they aren't too bad.  Just use the
instructions in the manual and the darning hoop and foot. Set the machine
like the instructions say and darn away. Of course, I'd rather be quilting
with it, but darning the socks makes him happy.

Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:49:37 -0400
Subject: bobbin insertion

I realize that the 1630 bobbin insertion is awkward compared to the previous
models but I am learning to  insert it with my right hand instead of my left
and  my new Nina and I are becoming better friends. Sometimes the bobbin case
does not get properly seated in the race and this is true on all Nina's. I
have made it a practice after inserting my bobbin  to place the flat, fleshy
part of my thumb against the front of the bobbin case and rotate it while
pushing inwards. If the bobbin is not in correctly, the rotation will allow
it to find the right spot and by pushing inwards, it will pop into place
perfectly. Taking this momentary precaution can save you a lot of hastle.
Hope that this helps! I want everyone to love their Bernina as much as I love
mine. Have you hugged your Nina today?
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:49:30 -0400
Subject: oiling

There should not be a lot of oil in the bobbin case area of your Nina. The
1630 gets one drop of oil aprox. every 4 hours of sewing time and the other
models, one drop every 8 hours. Actual sewing time is hard to measure. You
may spend 4 hours sewing a garment, but how much time is the machine actually
run? You are pinning, ironing, checking the directions, etc. Since I sew a
great deal, my rule of thumb is to oil about once a week although your
machine may need to be cleaned of lint oftener depending on the type of work
you are doing and the materials that you are using. Train your ear to listen
for a change in the sound of your machine- when the Bernina starts to sound
"noisy" it is asking for oil. (Another sound to listen for is the popping
sound made by a dull needle as it penetrates the fabric.) I hope that this
helps. Happy stitching - Francyne. 
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:49:23 -0400
Subject: darning

Ninas love to darn socks! In fact that is how I practiced my free hand
techniques when learning to embroider. Drop the feed dogs and put the darning
foot (#9) on your machine.  You will find a darning hoop in your accessory
box. It attaches to the free arm by placing the projection at one end into
the hole at the right of the free arm. Pinch the inner ring to remove it and
pull the sock over the free arm, then replace the inner ring to hold it
tight. Lower your presser foot and then lower the needle into the fabric (not
the hole) and draw up the bobbin thread. Wrap both top and bobbin threads
around your finger to hold them tight, and take several stitches to lock your
threads, stop with the needle in the fabric and clip the thread ends to get
them out of your way. Start stitching forward by moving the hoop away from
yourself , run the machine at a fairly rapid pace and move your hands
steadily. You will stitch forwards and then backwards moving from one side of
the hole to the other while reinforcing the fabric all the way around the
hole and filling the hole itself with stitches. When you finish forward and
backward, then stitch side to side from top to bottom. Continue in this
manner until the hole is filled. If you run the machine slowly, you will have
problems so keep the pace rapid. Check the directions in your Bernina manual
- it will also have pictures. Good luck and happy stitching!
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:48:49 -0400
Subject: bias binding

Atttaching bias binding can be a tricky job. I know because I have done miles
of it the hard way. The #85 foot is used for attaching prefolded bias binding
in straight lines only. It will not go around a curve. The #84/#94 attachment
is absolutely fantastic. You put a flat piece of bias into the foot and it
will automatically fold the raw edges under, fold the bias in half, and
attach it to the fabric. Curves are no problem.  The downside is the cost -
the #85 foot will probably be around $50.00 whereas the preferred attachment
runs over $100.00. You really need to do a lot of bias to justify the

When doing bias without special accessories, I have found that it is much
easier to use narrow double fold binding when curves are involved. Make sure
that the bias is folded so that one side is wider than the other. The wider
side goes underneath the project. The edge stitch foot #10 should make it
easier for you to sew an even distance from the edge by running the guide
along the inside edge and stitching with your needle one position to the
right on a 5 needle position Bernina. Use a large straight pin or other
implement to keep the folded edge of the bias snuggled against the raw edge
of the project as you sew. If you are binding multiple layers (e.g. quilted
fabric) run a zigzag stitch over the raw edge of the project first to hold
all the layers together. Another alternative in stitching is to use a
decorative or wider functional stitch instead of a straight stitch. You will
be assured of catching the underneath layer of bias this way. A serpentine or
running stitch works well as does a sewn out zigzag among others. Experiment
on a scrap. If you  prefer a wider bias, I like to sew it in 2 steps. First
lay the bias right sides together with the project and raw edges even. Stitch
with a straight stitch, 1/4 inch from the outside raw edge easing around
curves. Flip the bias to the wrong side, turning under the raw edge and pin
in place making sure to cover the stitching line. Now you can either hand
stitch the bias on the wrong side or machine stitch in the ditch from the
right side again using the edge stitch foot. With this method the bias does
not have to be prefolded. I hope that my explanations have been clear. It is
hard to explain things without pictures. If you have any further questions
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:23:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Darning Socks

I always used to darn socks on my elna.  Not sure how to do on the 1080.  I'm
definitely not cheap.  Just seems a shame to throw away good socks because of
sm. hole.  Americans are a throw away society, if I compost, recycle cans,
bottles and plastic why not darn a hole.
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 17:44:06 EDT
Subject: Good Price

You may want to try the Bernina dealer in Harrisburg, PA.
They also mail order...and their prices are LOW!  It's
Discount Vacuum &Sewing Center at 1-800-569-5691. 
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 22:14:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Good Prices

If they mail order they are going against Bernina rules. If they cheat that
way can they be trusted to have your best interest at
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 09:37:52 EDT
Subject: Re: Good Prices

If Bernina has rules against mail order they are setting
themselves up for a lawsuit for restraint of trade! 
Subject: Re: Good Prices 
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 95 10:48:07 -0400

>Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 22:14:27 -0400
>Subject: Re: Good Prices

>If they mail order they are going against Bernina rules. If they cheat that
>way can they be trusted to have your best interest at
>All Bernina Lovers Welcome!!

I'm no lawyer, but I do know that federal law puts limits on the
restrictions that a manufacturer can place on a retailer.  For
example, some years ago the practice of a manufacturer setting and
enforcing retail prices was declared illegal.  (Now the manufacture
can only "suggest" a retail price and stores can do whatever they
want.)  I don't know exactly where the limits lie these days, but I
wonder whether Bernina can legally enforce a "no mail order" or "no
discount" policy.

As consumers, we should be happy about laws that keep the market open
to competition.  In a monopoly, there is no economic incentive for the
seller to provide service or good prices to the consumer.  Because we
do have choices other than Bernina, this is not strictly a monopoly
situtation, at least when it comes to buying a machine.  A Bernina
dealer must consider the nearby Viking dealer when setting prices on
machines.  However, if one does own a Bernina, one probably will be
purchasing feet and other accessories.  At that point there is
something close to a monopoly, since Bernina distributes only through
"authorized" dealers.  The only thing a "no mail order" or a "no
discount" policy does is guarantee Bernina dealers are not competing
against each other.  It is not a rule that helps us, the consumers,
obtain good service or good prices from the market place.  It has
exactly the opposite effect.

I've owned my Bernina for a year now and am very happy with the
machine.  However, I have become increasingly unhappy with my dealer
(the only one in at least 40-50 miles) and her pricing (definitely
higher than dealers hundreds of miles away).  If there were local
competition or I had a mail order source, I would get better prices.
Because of this, I am on the verge of telling people to strongly
consider buying sewing machines *other* than Bernina if they don't
have at least three unrelated Bernina dealers within a reasonable
distance from their home.  This might be a tough condition, because
Bernina seems to space franchises very far apart, if the Boston area
is representative.  However that is Bernina's policy, which is the
problem here.

Ah, it feels good to finally get that off my chest!

Am I the only person who sees things this way?

Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 13:56:28 MDT
Subject: Funlock007D

In answer to Cindy's inquiry about the 007D serger -- I just got
one about two months ago and I love it.  Not only does it work
great, it's also (relatively) easy to thread, with a lower looper
threader.  I got a great deal from my dealer here in El Paso, by 
buying it together with a 1530  --  a big (no, BIG) $$$ at once, 
but I ended up saving lots in the long run.
One of my quilt guild members suggested that I use a different 
color thread for each needle and looper so I could see which thing
did what.  That was great advice.  

During my lesson on the serger, I learned how to use the looper
converter to make the serger just do a two thread stitch.  It was neat,
but WHY??  what is it used for?
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:31:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Good Prices


   I think the only restrictions Bernina puts on their dealers is that in 
order to hold a dealership one must offer free (included in the price) 
lessons.  If you notice at quilt shows the dealers ARE giving lessons.  I 
know very little about 
"warehouse sales" but I can't imagine anyone 
spending so much money for a machine and then not having the invaluable 
lessons on how to use it or even where to go to get service if something 
is not quite right. Just because a person owns an older model Bernina it 
does not mean that that individual will know how to use a latter model 
with more whistle and bells.
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 10:19:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re:  Lessons/using machine

I have to share this story--I'm still shaking my head over it.  I have a
friend who owns a Bernina 930.  She is a very good "crafter" and 
specializes in calico dolls, stuffed animals, has done some lovely 
applique, so she sews just enough to accomplish these tasks.  She asked 
me a question the other day and I suggested zig-zagging over something.  
She told me she didn't know how to zigzag.  I said, "Are you kidding me?"
No, she wasn't.  She thought it involved lots of adjustments.  So the 
next time I am at her house we are going to have a zigzagging 
lesson.  She'll probably think I have broken her machine!  This 
points up something that has always bothered me about buying certain 
appliances.  Lessons are tied to the dealer/supplier instead of 
being available--free--from any dealer.  My friend purchased her machine,
new, in a town about 125 miles from Tallahassee where her son lives and 
never got her lessons.  It seems so provincial that any dealer would 
not honor this benefit, regardless of the small differences in 
prices.  I believe she could pay for her lessons given locally, but 
it's not worth it to her--and she doesn't know how to use any of the fine 
features of her nice machine should she want to.  Another point--if 
you are able to purchase a machine away from home, factor in the cost 
of those lessons if you think you will need them.  I would certainly
need them on the more sophisticated models.      
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 12:00:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Looper converter

>> I learned how to use the looper converter to make the serger just do a two
thread stitch.  It was neat, but WHY??  what is it used for?<<

There is a two-thread rolled hem which you do with the looper converter, and
this actually looks better than the 3 thread rolled hem. However, I usually
do the 3-thread anyway because it is easier just to leave it threaded that
way than to jump through hoops using the looper converter, which I never
fully understood even though I had two sets of lessons. I have a 2000DE and
make tons of rolled hems--wonderful for the edges of ruffles, hems of
3-tiered skirts, nightgowns, sleeve hems, tablecloths, napkins, you name it. 

Mary M
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 1995 11:54:27 EDT
Subject: Re: Lessons/using machine

If a person purchases a Bernina from outside their area
(mail-order for example) but wants lessons in their hometown 
it can be done FREE.  Here's how it works.  If you purchase 
a Bernina fom someone other than your hometown dealer, have 
the seller give you a Bernina certificate of purchase.  If
you present this certificate to your authorized local dealer 
within 90 days of purchase, he will give you lessons for
free.  Why?  Because the selling dealer will pay him for it. 
It's in the dealer agreement.  If the dealer is not willing 
to give you the lessons free, call Bernina.  I should know
because I mail order Berninas at extremely low prices and
the question I get asked is "how about lessons?"  I pay your 
local dealer to give you them.  Any questions, call me at
1-800-569-5691 and ask for Bob. 
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 9:27:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Lessons/using machine

I agree that the lessons provided with the machine (I have a 1080) are
worthwhile. There was lots of info that wasn't presented in the manual
that came with the machine.

On the other hand, a manual *does* come with the machine.  Doesn't anyone
ever read them?  Doesn't everyone sit down with the manual (took all of an
hour or so for the 1080) and try it all out?  (OK, OK, it'd take lots
longer for a 1630...)  I can't imagine not knowing how to zigzag 
whether or not lessons were provided with the machine. 

I've been stunned at how much time is spent, in the classes, reviewing
things described clearly in the manual and how suprised some of the people
in the class are that their machine will drop the feed-dogs or that they
can change the zig-zag width, or that they can make the needle stop down
and so forth. I'm not talking about real esoteric stuff here,
just basic machine operation.

Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:02:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Mail-Order Berninas

Debbie wrote:
> As consumers, we should be happy about laws that keep the market open
> to competition.  In a monopoly, there is no economic incentive for the
> seller to provide service or good prices to the consumer.  Because we
> I've owned my Bernina for a year now and am very happy with the
> machine.  However, I have become increasingly unhappy with my dealer
> (the only one in at least 40-50 miles) and her pricing (definitely
> higher than dealers hundreds of miles away).  If there were local
> competition or I had a mail order source, I would get better prices.
> Because of this, I am on the verge of telling people to strongly
> consider buying sewing machines *other* than Bernina if they don't
> have at least three unrelated Bernina dealers within a reasonable
> distance from their home.  This might be a tough condition, because
> Bernina seems to space franchises very far apart, if the Boston area
> is representative.  However that is Bernina's policy, which is the
> problem here.
> Am I the only person who sees things this way?

   Hi, Debbie!  No, you're not the only person who thinks competition
gives the *consumer better prices and better machines!  Thanks for
writing. As I think I've remarked before, one of our local sewing machine
dealers (not Bernina, thankfully) actually was getting *more* than list
price for her machines, due to her extremely overbearing/threatening
manner and the fact that she was the only dealer within easy driving
distance.  You should have seen her reaction when I innocently asked
what her discount was.  Heck, it should have been filmed!  But I live in
one of those uncomfortable places where most folks don't really earn all
that much, and would rather *appear to have money than actually have it,
including paying a lot more than they should for consumer goods.  Well, 
that's their (budgetary) problem, not mine! 

Date:          Fri, 9 Jun 1995 12:28:44 PST8PDT
Subject:       Quick help needed model 708

Hi all, 

I am no longer a subscriber to this list as I just had a baby and 
can't find enough time in the day to read a lot of mail. I am in need 
of help from you all now, though. I just saw a nice looking Bernina 
708 for sale at a garage sale for $25. It seems to be in great shape 
but I will take some material with me if I go back to get it. Does 
anyone know about this machine? How old is it? Does it have any known 
problems? Currently I own  an _old_ Elna and an _old_ Brother that 
need more work than I want to pay for. This machine (the 708) has a 
moveable needle, dual speed settings, droppable feed dogs, straight 
stitch and zig zag, light, only a free arm surface and an oscilating 
bobbin. Help please (and quickly too ;)

Please respond to me as I don't receive the list mail.
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 17:46:20 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Binder Attachmt #84


A few days ago, someone posted information on the efficiency (although 
expensive) of Binder Attachment #84.  

The catalog lists 3 sizes: 20-24mm;  22-26mm; 26-30mm. 

Question #1:  Is this the FINISHED width or is this the UNFOLDED bias tape.

Question #2:  Works great on curves AND straight line.  What about 

Question #3:  Could the person who previously posted re: #84, please 
reveal what size binder attachment she uses?

Thank you.

CiCi W
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 06:29:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/8/95

I've done mail order from other Bernina dealers, rather than my own in the
past.  This was a long time ago when I had small kids and couldn't get to my
dealer.  They were willing to ship me the items I needed.  

Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 18:55:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/9/95

Bernina manuals are terrible.  They provide the owner with really no help at
all.  I think if Bernina were to rewrite their manuals in user friendly
style, or even to provide a how to video for their machines then the
questions of lessons wouldn't be so important.  Bernina dealers are far and
few between here, so a decent self education system for the consumer would be
of value.

Subject: Bernina manuals
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 95 22:23:30 PDT

Roni is sooo right.......Bernina manuals are terrible.  I recently bought
a new serger, not a Bernina and the video is wonderful that came with the
machine.  How can we convince them how much we need more help???  We should
not have to pay extra for brochures that show us how to use the feet either.

If the dealer sells more than just Bernina's they are not interested in
having the Bernina Club usually.  My first Bernina dealer was wonderful
and by having the club each month we all spent lots of money on the
demonstrated feet, fabric, etc.  Sure miss not having that any more too.
Jean P
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 01:41:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/9/95

>. just saw a nice looking Bernina 
.>708 for sale at a garage sale for $25. It seems to be in great >shape 
>but I will take some material with me if I go back to get it. D>oes 
>anyone know about this machine? How old is it?

Heidi, how can you loose with $25? I have a 740 and I believe it is about 30
years old and it works GREAT! I think the price a dealer said they would give
me for a trade in was $75.

I would ask how it has been cared for and do a little sewing on it to make
sure it at least works.

Good luck,,

Diane, with a 1090 and a 740, make me an offer!, Pacesetter Embroidery
machine and a Bernette 335 serger, life is good!!
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 12:10:24 -0400
Subject: #84 binder foot

Hi CiCi! I am the person who wrote about the bias binders. The size of the
foot refers to the unfolded width of bias. The range from the narrowest to
the widest among all three feet goes from 20mm which is slightly wider than
3/4 inch to 30 mm which is slightly wider than  1 1/8 inch. I use the middle
size (22-26 m.m.). I cut my bias 7/8 to 1 inch wide. Seven/ eighths inch  is
the same width  as commercial single fold bias tape which is unfolded. If by
corners, you are referring to right-angle bends; no, the attachment does not
turn a corner. If you  change the right-angle to a tight curve, you can
slowly pivot around the corner. I hope that I have answered your questions.
This attachment is explained in a Footworks Video,  a Footsteps publication
vol 3 # 3, and also p. 63 of the Bernina Advanced Guide Workbook.  Happy
stitching -Francyne. 
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 12:41:25 -0400
Subject: machine quilting

I have started machine quilting a quilt with cotton thread on top and SULKY
rayon in the bobbin.  I've done this before but different machine and the
other way around. 

No matter what the tension setting bobbin thread is pulled up til it is
visible.  I happened to be at my point-of-purchase (that's where you buy your
machine because it's convenient never *expecting* a lot of support :-) )
yesterday and asked about this.  He told me to check my bobbin case's
adjustment, it was probably loose.  When I got home, I thought, before I
screw around with this, better check with equal thread on the bottom.

So, I am willing to accept this as an "effect" because it does look nice on a
background with little dots but in the future, do you recommend having a
spare bobbin case for messing with tension in situations like this?

============bye for now==============
Mary Beth G
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 22:45:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/10/95

I am with Roni. The manuals stink.. They do not explain anything very
clearly.  I have misplaced my manual, and I don't want to pay for a new one.
It did not help. I am paying to have lessons in August for my 1530, and plus
two lovely gals has sent me a few directions, Hi Brenda and Jackie.  The
internet is the best! Thank you for this little bulletin. Barb
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 07:02:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Machine quilting

     Please let me know which machine you are sewing on.  This will enable me
to give you some suggestions, especially since some Bernina's are rotary
hooks (1000,1001,1630) and others are oscillating.  And I definitely would
not change the tension on my regular bobbin case on any of the Bernina,
rotary or oscillating.

Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 13:04:08 +0500
Subject: Re: Good Price

I wanted to ask the person who bought her machine from Hayes in Willmington
if she was satisfied with their service.  I have not been totally happy, with the
feeling that they do a quick job and aren't very willing to tell you exactly what
they have done to your macine.
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 19:18:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Machine quilting

Hi Mary Beth,
Just read your note and decided to try answer your problem.
I am a real advocate of knowing how to change your bobbin tension, just for
such reasons. Every different fiber type and thread weight can change the way
the thread goes through the bobbin clip where the tension is regulated. Nylon
can have a much dfifferent tension set up than your regular thread. If you
have my new quilting book, or Mastering Machine Applque (pg 30) there are
precise instuctions on how to learn about bobbin tension and its relationship
to the top. I don't use a separate bobbin case, as the adjustments are minor.
Read through the instructions, and I think you will figure out how to solve
your problem. The thread is telling you what is going on. If there are bobbin
bubbles on the top, the top tension is too tight or the bobbin is too loose
for that thread combination. Therefore, start by loosening the top. If you
start to see top thread on the back, you have loosened the top too much. Now
you know that you need to tighten the top a little at a time. This is a fine
balancing act between the two, but perfect stitches can be obtained easily if
you understand these principles. Good luck.
Harriet H 
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 95 19:28:15 -0600
Subject: Looper converter

     I use the looper converter to do decorative 2-thread flatlocking.  It 
     makes a much flatter seam (however, I only use it decoratively - never 
     on a "real" seam), and works beautifully with heavy decorative 
     threads.  Hmmm, I seem to notice a trend in my wording - decorative 
     Happy serging!
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 95 05:51:49 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Manuals

Does anyone from Bernina of America read this?  I hope so.  Your video that
accompanied the 1630 stank!  It was just an advertising tool.  Even though
we get classroom instruction as part of the package, it would be helpful if
you included a good instructional video with your machines.  It surely
wouldn't cost any extra to produce it than that elaborate piece of junk you
included with the 1630.  It was beautiful, but not at all helpful.  Were
you trying to sell the 1630 to someone who already bought it?  The video
that came with my Babylock Eclipse serger was extremely helpful.  Think
about it!

Ruth B
Date:          Tue, 13 Jun 1995 08:18:31 EST5DST
Subject:       presser foot tension

I recently bought the Bernina 1001. Is there a way to 
increase/decrease the presser foot tension? With the old machine I 
had I could press down or release a post on the top of the machine 
over the needle area to change how tightly the presser foot rested on 
the material.  As far as I can tell, that post on this Bernina is 
only for wrapping the thread around when you wind a bobbin.  I have 
had the problem of the top fabric being pushed ahead of the presser 
foot when sewing two pieces together.  These pieces were 100% cotton 
that I was strip piecing together.
Linda P
Subject: Hayes, Wilmington

Esther--I bought my Bernina from Hayes about two months ago, so that I
haven't had it serviced yet!  But I took my 25 year old Singer into them a
few times and didn't have the problems you did.  Perhaps this is because i
had it serviced in Clifton Heights which is much closer to where I live, so
that I may have talked to different serviceing people (I spoke to "Mr. Hayes"
and I assume that's the person who both owns the stores and did the work).
 I've heard very mixed things about Hayes, so I think it may be personal.
 However, before I bought the machine, I posted a question on Quiltnet about
Hayes and had two or three responses, all favorable.
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 18:13:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina VIDEO 

In a message dated 95-06-13 08:03:15 EDT, you write:

>Does anyone from Bernina of America read this?  I hope so.  Your
>video that
>accompanied the 1630 stank!  It was just an advertising tool.  Even
>we get classroom instruction as part of the package, it would be
>helpful if
>you included a good instructional video with your machines.  It
>wouldn't cost any extra to produce it than that elaborate piece of
>junk you
>included with the 1630.  It was beautiful, but not at all helpful.
I also hope you think about the above.  This was my sentiments exactly.  I
got a better instructional video with my Juki surger.  As far as I was
concerned your video was worse then BAD, it was useless.
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 20:31:40 -0600
Subject: needle up/down

Maybe I'm missing something on my faithful 930 (I'm one of those who 
bought used and never took lessons!) Is there a way to change the
needle up position to a needle down? And is there a way to change the
presser foot tension? Since neither of these were addressed in the
manual I made the assumption that neither is available - hopefully
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 00:45:12 -0400
Subject: Re:Machine Quilting

Thanks Harriet and everyone -- what a wonderful thing to get advice on life's
quilting problems -- almost while you're having them.

I'm ahead of you Harriet -- the book is sitting right along side my sewing
area.  I do usually have it out while machine quilting, and even though I've
been doing this for quite a few years, I thumb through it before starting.
 My quilting buddy always reminds me that doing things by machine doesn't
make them brilliantly easy! :-)

I guess I was startled when I got the top tension down to 2 before I got a
result.  On my old machine I would not have gotten distinct stitches.

THe other thing that has occurred to me is I can try the little eye in the
bobbin case and see if that helps since the problem seems to be thread

While pondering all this, I took my own advice, often dispensed of doing a
little practice project to get going and get the feel of a new technique only
this time I'm getting the feel of my machine!

Mary Beth
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 07:47:37 +0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Video

I sure will ditto the above - pure advertisment
What a shame and sure not up to what I expected
from Bernina
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 08:25:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Service

Dear Bernina Fans on the East Coast, namely Maryland!

   I live in Silver Spring, MD and have a different problem (although not as
troublesome as some of the midwestern prople)....there are so many 
Bernina dealers in my area that I do not know where to go to get my 
machine cleaned!!!  I want someone who will treat my 1230 with the love 
and attention I give it...not an assembly line approach.  Has anyone had 
a cleaning lately by a mechanic that will upgrade the parts that Bernina 
recommends should be done (no extra cost) without being asked?  That is 
what is supposed to happen and should be happening when people take in 
their machines.  I would appreciate good and bad stories and I realize 
that I will have to be responsible for making the final decision.  I am 
going on vacation June 15th at noon so if you want a reply, please write 
before then.

                       Happy Sewing....Jacque
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 08:28:00 MST
Subject: RE: Needle Up/Down

I'm not familiar with the 930 but on all the other Bernina machines I
have seen, you can adjust the post that you wrap the thread around to
wind the bobbin....on my 1031 it is on the left hand side (top of machine)...
you use the little screwdriver in your accessories box.  Took me a while
to figure it out but since I did, no more scooting of fabrics...
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:28:27 -0400
Subject: Complaints

I don't think anyone from Bernina of America is on this list. I would suggest
that people who are annoyed about the video write to Bernina directly voicing
their complaint. I agree that the video appears to be a marketing tool.
Although I did watch it and my husband saw some of it and was impressed with
all the capabilities of the machine. As we have discussed here before, it
looks like we will have to rely on outside sources for information on our
Berninas. I would love it if Jackie Dodson wrote a book on the 1630. 

Also, I want to stress again, how great classes can be if you have a good
dealer. You can still probably take classes if you bought your machine from
an outside source used, and talk to a dealer. I have been sewing for 30 years
and was really impressed with how many tips I picked up during the class. I
have a serger, which I still am not friends with, I asked Rick, of
Libertyville Sewing Center in IL, what would be in the beginning serger
class, taught by his wife, LInda. Rick said "Oh you know, how to cut out a t
shirt, how to put on ribbing, simple stuff like that". But I know better, I
know that Linda really knows her stuff, and I will learn a lot. One thing
just occurred to me, the staff at that dealer all wear clothes they have sewn
themselves. Maybe we should pay attention to that when evaluating dealers, a
skillful sewer makes a better dealer. (At least that is my opinion.)

I felt like rambling, the list has been short lately, so I figured no one
would mind.
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 15:15:23 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/13/95

I agree about the video, it was a waste.  They should re-write the manual and
re -film the video with real people doing the basic things on the machine,
then go on to the advanced techniques.  Maybe someone like Harriet Hargraves,
or Georgia Bonesteel, who know how to teach?  They would be great.

Subject: Re: Needle Up/Down
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 15:29:13 PDT

I too used to have a 930, there were two 930 models.  The first did not have
the needle up/down option.  Soon they added it to the newer 930's.  Not fare.
I had mine a few months into 1983 when this happened and it made me very 
unhappy.  If you can not step on the heel of our foot petal and have the needle
change position, your 930 does not have it.  :-(  And I know just how you feel.
That is why I recently converted to the 1530.  I did not care for the 
performance of the 1630 and it could not hook up to a MAC either.

Jean P
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 20:14:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/13/95

I also have a 930 (and a 1005) that I recently bought used.  Tapping on the
bottom of the foot pedal will leave the needle in the down position.
 However, I understand that not all 930s have this ability.   Hope this
helps!!! :)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 23:36:23 +0600
Subject: Bernina

Hi Sue!  This is a trial -- I'm not sure if I have your correct email 
address.  We'll soon see!  I would like to re-subscribe to the Bernina 
listserv.  BECAUSE -- TODAY my DDDDDH bought me my first Bernina - A Bernina 
1630!  I am so excited I cannot wait until Friday when it gets delivered to 
the store -- they will call for me to come and get it. And hopefully sit 
down with me and show me how to use it.  I've been working on an old 
Kenmore, and now I am ready to fly!!
need to send something to the listserv address? 
Thanks! and wish me luck!!  This is SO exciting!!!
Robin D
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 04:11:09 -0700
Subject: Thanks, Harriet

Hi everyone!

I had to post a note this morning.  I used my walking foot for the 
first time yesterday since I had it modified.  WOW---what a 
difference!!!!  Thanks, Harriet!  If any of you haven't had this done 
yet, I suggest you run, not walk, to the nearest post office.
Machine quilting is now so easy that I may never hand quilt.  Besides, 
any reason to play with the Bernina........

Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 07:39:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Service

I have been very pleased with the service I got from Francis at MD Sew &Vac.
 I always check to make sure he will be able to work on my machine when I
bring it in.  
Doesn't G Street service Berninas?
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 07:41:21 -0400
Subject: Re: video

I believe that the video was made by Europeans to their way of thinking.  
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/14/95
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 08:08:14 -0500 (CDT)

This is a machine quilting question.  I have tried a few projects,
none of them very successful.  I just got the walking foot for my 1630
though and want to try again.  The question I have is about quilting on
the diagonal.  I did that on my previous pieces and reached the tenta-
tive conclusion that this is best left for experts and that it greatly
increases the likelihood of puckers on the back side.  I checked HH's
book to see if there was any advice about this.  While she does recom-
mend the vertical &horiz stabilizing lines, she doesn't say anything
about diagonal.  The quilt I'm going to do would look better with
diagonals, but if diag. truly does mean puckers, I'll find another
design.  Do any more experienced machine quilters have an opinion on
this?  I'd appreciate the advice.  (&yes, the video does stink)
Date:         Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:18:53 EDT
Subject:      Re: Bernina Digest 6/14/95

RE: the manual

I agree that the manual leaves a GREAT deal to be desired.

However, I also understand that there is a book available from
the Bernina dealer.  Is anyone aware of it?  Has anyone used it?
Is it any good?
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:38:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Thanks, Harriet

I don't own a Bernina YET.  But I am definitely looking.  Could someone
explain to me about the adjustment that "Harriet" apparently suggested for
the walking foot.  Are you talking about the new walking foot that costs
$75 or an older version and what kind of adjustment was made?

Thanks, Sarita
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 11:39:57 -0400
Subject: Test post: Bernina Feet project

Bernina Presser Foot Project

The following is a draft of a project I am currently developing. You are
very much
encouraged to contribute feedback. The number one goal of this endeavour is
to provide
valuable resources to Bernina machine users. 

Please feel free to pass this draft to friends and colleagues.  
The more input I receive from Bernina users the better I can shape the proposal.

Table of Contents

     Introduction (Summary)
     Benefits derived from the product
     Book contents
     Video contents
     Marketing ideas

    Feedback is Welcome! 
Introduction (Summary)

Bernina machine users learn early of the large number of presser feet
available for NINA's. While that means it tends to be expensive for us to
collect all the nifty sewing aids, it does help us in our sewing to have
the right foot available. However, if you talk to seamsters, dealers,
instructors you soon find out that there is a crying need for a
'consolidated' source of information. Currently, you have to go to about
half a dozen sources to get around most of the foot info (the information
printed on the little leaflets accompanying each foot is, to put it
mildly, less than overwhelming...). In addition, many of the dealers
don't carry foot related information sources or don't hold them in stock
consistently. I am currently working on a project draft for a book (or
series of books; hopefully companion videos as well) that would give
detailed info on what each foot is designed for, how it works (what the
design of the foot does) and how to use the foot so that it works for
you. In addition, I'd like to have included as many 'alternate' uses for
the feet as possible. Many feet are used for other purposes than the
one(s) printed on their accompanying documentation. The companion videos
would provide actual demonstrations of the uses for each foot, including
alternate uses. Finally, the book(s) would be indexed both by foot and by
application, so that the information could be accessed from both


The main objectives of this project are:

* to provide comprehensive information on all Bernina feet available
* to consolidate such information in one source, for easy accessibility
       enable Bernina users to take full advantage of the wide variety of
presser feet
       available by giving them the information they need to understand how
the feet
       work and how to use them
* give users a reference tool that will allow them to find out what foot (or
feet) are
       best suited for any specific use or technique they have in mind

Benefits derived from the product:

for seamsters...

being able to USE all these feet is the main benefit I have in mind! Users
could find out the HOW-TO AND the WHY-IT-WORKS for the feet they already
own. They could also find out about new feet that may be better suited
for any particular task they undertake. We all enjoy having the right
foot for the job but we also often have difficulty finding out what that
right foot would be (choosing the right hemmer is a good example)

for dealers...

a consolidated source of foot information could only help the dealers
(provided it is comprehensive enough). Such a reference could also be
used as a source of ideas for classes and Bernina Club events. It would
also allow the dealers to better satisfy the needs of customers who live
a distance away and who can only visit their dealership infrequently.
Such 'remote' users have a greater need for (foot) information that they
could use at home (especially video material)

for Bernina of America...

it would allow the company to better support their claim/policy on
presser feet, i.e. the right foot for the task at hand. While Bernina
already has demonstrated leadership in developing presser feet adapted to
different sewing tasks, it is clear from the users' perspective that the
company needs to deliver more on that policy by enabling the seamsters to
take advantage of all these nifty feet. It seams like the company would
sell more feet once the users had the reference material needed to put
them to successful use


This section gives an overview of how the presser foot information would
be presented. The next two sections go in more detail over the contents
of the reference components.

The material included in the 'Presser Foot Reference' would be predented
in two ways (media): book(s) and video(s). 

The 'book' ( which I currently envision as 3-hole punch sheets in a ring
binder for flexibility) would be a hybrid of the current foot information
sources, including a description of the feet, drawings and/or pictures of
the feet with pointers to the features on each foot that make it work.
The book(s) would also discuss the main sewing application(s) for which
each foot is designed, as well as alternate applications. The information
in the book(s) would be indexed in (at least) three ways: by foot number,
foot name and by sewing application. So a #63 hemmer would be listed both
under #63, Narrow Hemmer and Hemming. The book information would likely
be split into more than one module (more on that in the next section)

The video(s) would give a 'live' description of the foot, with someone
actually showing on each foot what makes it work. They would refer to the
book contents (by page) to allow the user to keep track and make notes in
the book if necessary. There would of course be demonstrations of the
different feet, not only for the 'main' application(s) but also for
alternate uses. There would have to be several videos to cover all the
feet. The videos would be 'matched' to their book counterparts.

*******  How many books and videos? ********

I believe that having one ring binder holding all of the foot info would
be the ultimate reference. However, not everyone may be interested in
having all of the feet included. Therefore, I propose that a modular
approach be followed. This would include the following: 

a ring binder capable of holding the entire collection of foot info (This
would come with a global index of all the feet, even if the customer
doesn't buy all the 'inserts)  Modules or sections for different subsets
of presser feet, including: 

1. The BASIC SET (starter set) that comes with most machines (feet #0-9);
this would be included with the ring binder. (actually, I think that the
ring binder with starter set should be included with EVERY Bernina
machine sold)  

2. Other sections that would cover 'groups' of feet, like embellishment /
embroidery, utility (hemmers, etc)  

3. A special section for 1630 specific feet. I would make the 1630 feet a
separate section, since most Bernina users can't use them. This
arrangement would also make it easier for 1630 owners to find the
information on these feet, without having to browse through the rest of
the book. 

Sections could be added to the binder over time or the whole thing could
be sold 'bundled' into one complete reference (hopefully at an
'agressive' price). Pagination would be modular (e.g. page 1-1, 2-15,
etc) to accomodate growth in the book without having to republish the

The VIDEOs would follow a similar organization. One video for the BASIC
SET (feet #0-9) which, btw, should have been included with every new
machine sold for a while now... Other titles would cover the same
categories as for the book modules (utility, embellishment, 1630, etc.)

Book contents

*** Table of contents

*** ntroduction: Bernina's policy towards presser feet. How to find the
    information in the book(s). 

*** Summary table of all current Bernina presser feet: the table would
    include, for each foot, columns for the following (likely in landscape

Foot Number (with equivalent in 'older' foot series)  
Foot name  
Front view (photo or drawing) of the foot as we see it when we sew)  
Side view 
Bottom (sole) view  
'Main' application for the foot  
Alternate uses for the foot  
Pages numbers in the book where the foot is referred to (visual

*** Body of the Book(s): the main section would include for each foot the
    following information: 

* accurate description (step-by-step) of the 'main' use(s) for the foot
(using drawings or pictures to illustrate techniques) 

* drawings of the foot (top, side bottom views as required) with pointers to
features that make the foot work 

* integration of the above information in explaining the 'proper' procedure
to follow in using the foot to ensure success, referring to the 'feature

NOTES: a 2 column format could be use to have the 'worded' descriptions of
features and techniques on the left and the visual aides on the right

Repeat the above layout for 'alternate uses for the foot. (the level of
detail could be lessened if a similar foot already has a detailed
description of the technique to illustrate). When more than one foot is
adequate for a particular use, teh pros and cons of each foot should be
discusses (or mentioned)

*** Appendix A: translation table (to current foot equivalent) for older feet

*** Index by Foot Number
*** Index by Foot Name
*** Index by Sewing Application


Video contents

The videos would go something like... 

*** Introduction: which feet are covered on the tape

*** Body of the session: for each foot, the video would cover: 

 * How the foot works: explanation while showing on the foot the
feature(s) that make it work 

* How to use the foot: live demonstration at the machine, with tips,
pointers for success and mistakes to avoid (referring to the 'why the
foot works' information when appropriate) 

 Throughout the entire video, periodic overlays on the screen would
indicate which foot is being discussed, what technique is being applied
as well as where in the book the corresponding information is covered,
allowing the viewer to annotate if wanted.

NOTES: a two person format may be useful, allowing one person to 'ask the
questions' (representing the user's perspective) and one person
'obliging' and doing the demo. Whenever more than one foot are adequate
for a particular task, they could be shown side by side and the pros and
cons of each one could be discussed. The video format allows for easier
and IMHO more effective comparisons.


Marketing Ideas

 Here is where I am seeking a balance between seamsters' interests and
attractiveness to Bernina of America. Frankly, this project can only
'happen' if the company thinks they have an interest also :)

As a seamster, I believe the company should bundle the binder, including
the starter set with every new machine they sell (for the 1630, this
would also include the section on 1630 specific feet), accompanied by the
corresponding video(s) . If the book and video is any good, the other
sections should sell themselves, one would assume. For people who already
have a Bernina, and who should have had a more elaborate reference
included with their machine (that's most of us, I believe...), Bernina
should offer the whole book (with or without the 1630 section) at an
affordable price. Videos should also be bundled here at an attractive
price (not everyone has a VCR but still the company should make it
attractive to get both book and video).


Feedback is Welcome!

 I am currently gathering information and input on the project, so that I
can present it to Bernina of America in a form that will be both useful
to seamsters and attractive to the company. 
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 10:25:08 EDT
Subject: Bernina Manuals

  Been reading the posts about the poor Bernina manuals with 
interest.  I am a Bernina dealer in PA and have been
surprised to learn that some Bernina dealers don't know of
many of the products the company offers.  Are you aware that 
Bernina has Advanced Guide Workbooks?  These 3-ring binders 
go beyong the manual and go into much more detail about the 
machine's capabilities.  For #1630 owner's, there is the
1630 library.  A new section to this library will come out
every month up until December.

  Good videos are needed for the machines, but I know of no 
plans by Bernina to start.  I was the dealer who posted the 
info about buying a machine out-of-town and taking local
lessons and the selling dealer would pay the local dealer to 
give the lessons.  It amazes me that some dealers keep
product and service info from their customers.  My phone
number is 1-800-569-5691.  This isn't a shameless promotion. 
If dealers aren't offering what they should be to Bernina
owners, I will.  We offer machines &accessories at DISCOUNT 

       One more interesting note.  Bernina's patent on the
knee lift has run out.  New Home (soon to be renamed Janome) 
has already put it on the new Memory Craft 9000.  I hope no 
one minds a dealer's perspective on what's going on with

Subject: 1530 Instructions
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 10:25:05 PDT

I also would be interested in having additional instructions for the 1530
other than the book that came with the machine.  I do have the Advanced
Manual and the Supplement #1.

Does anyone know if there have been any other supplements since this, as
they do not cover the 1530 and needle positions are very different.  From
the titles of her books I can not tell if Mary Lou Nall covered this model
and her books are not available for me to see in my area.

I also have Know Your Bernina, but this actually applied to my 930.

I am afraid that future publications will be focused on the 1630, leaving
1530 owners in the lurch.  The two dealers in my area are so new to
Bernina's that they look at me blankly when asked any of the above.

Thanks to anyone how has any hints.  :0}

Jean P
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 16:59:20 -0400
Subject: 1630 memory

I am planning to use some of the multi directional designs on tee shirts and
I have 2 nice designs programed.  Only trouble is that I accidently inserted
pattern subdivisions.  Dumb question, but I sure can't figure out how to get
rid of them.  I can start over or I can do each design in sections but I want
to get rid of those subdivisions!!!!!!!
Anyone know how?
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 19:31:02 MST
Subject: Confusion might reign supreme.....

The other day I submitted a post describing adjusting the post (that you
wrap the thread around for bobbin winding) to increase/decrease pressure
on the presser foot...on my machine (the 1031, you tap the FOOT PEDAL
with your heel to get the NEEDLE DOWN...not as convenient as pushing a
button but it works....I do apologize for any confusion that I might
have caused because I neglected to change the subject
instead of being at home sewing...I am now going to work tonight...gotta
get those files off my desk...hope you are all having great evenings.
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 22:40:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Needle Up/Down

The first 930's that came out on the market did not have the needle
up/down feature.  Abou 6 months or so after that they revamped the
930 and the foot control will allow you to stop with the needle up or
down.  You'll have to send in your model number I imagine to Bernina to find
out if yours was one of the first or later ones made.
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 00:27:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/14/95

> though and want to try again.  The question I have is about quilting on
> the diagonal.  I did that on my previous pieces and reached the tenta-
> tive conclusion that this is best left for experts and that it greatly
> increases the likelihood of puckers on the back side.  I checked HH's

Lynn: I have been machine quilting for a while and have never had problems
quilting on the diagonal when using a walking foot. I just quilted a Trip
Around the World completely on the diagonal and not a single pucker. Make up
a lil sample and use the walking foot. Make sure quilt is basted well, too.
Perhaps you had too much looseness in the backing...Good Luck, and let us
know if it goes well!
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 09:39:27 -0400
Subject: Silvains book and video

Silvain I wish you luck. I enjoyed reading your outline. Perhaps it is
because I am from the midwest, but I would find it annoying to be called a
"seamster" and my machine referred to as a NINA. 

Also, I disagreed with your proposal to package your binder with all
machines. The reason Berninas don't come with all the feet is so we don't
have to pay for all of them with our machines and we can pick which ones we
like. If your program succeeded we would all pay for everything packed in the
box. This is probably why the advanced guide is not included in the box with
every machine. 

I would also suggest to you that you contact Chilton or That Patchwork Place
with your ideas. Chilton publishes hundreds of sewing books, and they are
always looking for good authors. Chilton books are carried in most book
stores (they also do the auto repair guides).
Date:         Fri, 16 Jun 95 09:10:24 EDT
Subject:      Re: Bernina Feet Project (Long)

Oooohhhh, sounds real neet Sylvain !  I ended up skimming most of it for
time's sake, but I like it real well.  My suggestion (after this quick
read):  when you mentioned landscape format and 2 column (text / graphic)
I got a picture in my mind of a binder jointed to bend into a tent so that
when I'm working with a specific foot I can flip to that page, open the
binder to _stand up_ for easy visibility while I sew.  (Does anyone else
see this??? -- I'm really tired this a.m. and know that I'm not expressing
myself very well).

Of course, on the small table that I use to hold both my serger &my
sewing machine I'd have a hard time finding room to set this lovely binder...
(guess I need a bigger/better sewing table ;)  ).
Date: 16 Jun 95 12:57:24 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 6/15/95

 >> Dorothy  RE: the manual <<

 I got the Advanced Guide Workbook and both of the supplements.  They were
written for the 1230 and aren't helpful for the 1630.  They were a special
order and I'm stuck with them.  A very large waste of money.
Date: 16 Jun 95 12:57:17 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 6/15/95

 >>  Lynn (in Nebraska) <<

 Lynn, The puckers on the back are usually caused but not stretching the
backing before making the quilt sandwich and/or not basting close enough.  I 
have seen this a lot in my classes.  What method of basting do you use?

  E-mail from: Laura M
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 15:35:36 -0400
Subject: Presser foot project draft: contact info


First, I'd like to thank the early birds who already have sent in feed back. 

If you want to pass it along, the draft is available:

1. on the WEB, at
upon request.


Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 23:09:59 -0400
Subject: Re: BErnina Digest 6/15/95

In a message dated 95-06-16 16:26:22 EDT, you write:

> I got the Advanced Guide Workbook and both of the supplements.  They
>written for the 1230 and aren't helpful for the 1630.  They were a
>order and I'm stuck with them.  A very large waste of money.

I just got the AGW and supplements.  I thought they were updated and included
help for all the Bernina's, including the 1630, how is that NOT true?  I also
thought everything was interchangeable between machines.  What's missing to
be helpful for the 1630, I am really a novice here and to sewing.  Could you
please be more specific.  It was a large amount of money....  I might be able
to get my money back, if I can prove it isn't helpful for my 1630 and was
only written for the 1230, mine wasn't a special order. 

Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 00:28:21 -0400
Subject: Janome's knee lift....

In the 6/15/95 digest, Bob Vasile wrote about the knee lift patent expiring
and the New Home machine with a knee lift.

I saw a demo of the "quilting" part of the Janome/NewHome 9000 and thought it
was pretty darn silly.  These people obviously want the quilting market and
have not done their homework.  The machine has several basic quilting blocks
in memory that it will "resize". (The person who was demo'ing took the
calculations which were in 32's of an inch and rounded off to the nearest
quarter inch, very strange.) Then it "remembers" the length of the seam
involved so it STOPS when it comes to the end of the seam.  Excuse me haven't
these people heard of speed techniques like chain piecing???  It also had
several quilting designs which were not re-sizeable.  I noticed the knee lift
and it didn't look as correct in position as Bernina's.  Of course, after I
had listened (very politely I might add, with NO LOL) I said, well honestly I
am a new Bernina owner so I'm not really in the market for a new machine (I
had not asked for this demo by the by).  I got dumped on big time by this
former Bernina dealer -- gave bad mouthing a whole new meaning for me.  

I understood at the time that they had their dealership taken away by Bernina
due to service problems.  Is that very common?

Mary Beth G
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 95 09:20:33 -0500
Subject: Classes, Manuals, &a Bit Administrative
Hi Everyone, 

I just finished my 'nina classes &they were great.  I've had the machine since 
November, but the classes didn't run till last week.  Please, if you buy a 
Bernina, do try &take the classes.  While I'm not a beginner, I couldn't 
believe how many little things I picked up in the class (Like what that thing on 
the right hand side of the machine is, Hey, it didn't look like a needle 
threader to me).  Anyway, if you're going to spend that much money on a 
machine, makes sense to learn how to take advantage of it.  

Now, I had never heard of the Advanced Guide till I took my classes.  So, of 
course, I had to get it.  For those of you who don't know what it is, it's the 
manuals that you wished you had gotten with your machine.  As my dealer calls 
it, the "Bernina Bible".  I really have to differ with the people who said it 
was a waste of money.  I've found it to be a great resource.  I'm all fired up 
on the ideas I've gotten from it.  It is for all Berninas, but was written 
before the later models (1530 &1630) came out, so later machine owners will 
have to do a bit of translating.  That's why the 2 suppliments were added.  In 
one of the suppliments is a chart that gives you the corresponding stitch for 
the later models.  Anyway, this guide gives directions for every technique that 
can be done with the 'nina &the various feet.  I saw things in there that I 
never knew you could do on a sewing machine. Guess the best thing I could tell 
someone was to see if you could look thru one first to see if it's something for 
you.  My dealer has them in stock, so I didn't have to special order.

For the 1630 owners, Bernina has also come out with a library.  Basically, it's 
a notebook with 5/6 different sections, each devoted to a different aspect of 
the 1630.  The idea is to keep issuing new inserts every so often.  I bought 
issue #1 and found that it was okay.  My dealer is doing workshops on each of 
the additions as they come out, so I signed up for one on issue #2 in July &#3 
in August.  I'll let you know how that goes.  I also picked up the 
sports/cartoon key and the new quilting key.  The sports key is okay, but I like 
the cartoon characters better.  The quilting key has some interesting designs 
that are shown in various combinations on the handout that came with the key.  
It's cute, but I'm holding my final judgement till I try it out (hopefully 
sometime this week.)

As far as the manual it self goes, it ain't great, but I personally didn't think 
it was trhat bad.  Of course I a) have to deal w/ computer manuals everyday that 
are MUCH worse, &b) also have knitting machines so I'm use to manuals like 
Berninas (Hey, at least this one is in English &not Japanese :) )  The video 
did leave alot to be desired, but I think it was more for inspiration than 
actual instruction.  But again, I've been using European knitting machine 
manuals &videos for the last 10 years.  I think that the person who produces a 
series of instructional videos for the 'nina could make a fortune.  (Too bad I'm 
camera shy )

One quick thing I got in the class, 1630 owners, if you're not sure if your 
machine has the upgraded board, go to the stitch designer and look in the lower 
right hand corner of the screen.  If you see #27 in the second box from the 
right, you've got an upgraded board.  The first 1630 to come out would only make 
designs that could be sewn 9mm wide, the late boards let stitches be wider, up 
to 40 something.  Also, when doing the sideways motifs, you really have to keep 
your fabric absolutely straight on the horizontal &vertical.  If you just let 
the machine go do it's thing, the pattern won't line up (NOW I know )

Okay, now the administrative part.  Some people have been asking about archives.  
Yes, I am very far behind on getting them ready.  But, I am planning on making 
them available on my Web site AND making them searchable.  I will post the URL 
whan I get them up.  I will also have them ready for e-mailing soon too.  
Lastly, there are now over 350 people on this list (Wow, when I started this I 
never knew that there were that many 'nina lovers out there) and I am still 
running the list manually.  DH &I are testing some software programs that would 
do some automation of the list, but till then, one really big thing you could do 
to help me is to tell me if you are on the regular list or the digest list when 
you e-mail about changes you wish to make.  When there were 40 people on the 
list, I could remember who was digest &who wasn't but know with 125+ digest and 
225+ regular, I spend alot of time searching through the lists for names only to 
realize that I'm in the wrong list.  Anyway, I'd really appreciate the help &I 
thank all of you in advance.

Well, this post has certainly gone on longer than I thought it would.  I hope 
everyone has been enjoying the list as much as I have.  I can't tell you how 
much I've learned.  Can't wait for my workshops (&since I don't plan on 
teaching in the Fall, I can start to do the Bernina Club , I can't wait)

Sue T
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 11:01:55 -0400
Subject: Jenome 9000

I'm interested in finding out more about the Jenome 9000, and how it
compares to the 1630.  

Does the 9000 hook up the computer?  What type of software does it use?

Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 11:05:35 -0400
Subject: Clarifications on the presser foot draft

Just to clarify what may not have been clear to everyone...

>Also, I disagreed with your proposal to package your binder with all
>machines. The reason Berninas don't come with all the feet is so we don't
>have to pay for all of them with our machines and we can pick which ones we

The FORMAT section outlined that the BASIC set (feet 0-9) ought to be
bundled with new machines, since everyone gets that set of feet.  For other
groups of feet, the inserts could be optional. That modular approach is
different from the Advanced Guide Workbook on purpose (for the very reason
you mention)  That would provide reference material on what already comes
with the machines without burdening the buyer with unwanted material.

 AS for 1630 owners, if the main index table includes the 1630 feet in the
startup binder, that would give them a starting point to find more about
what feet are available for that model.  I would still encourage Bernina to
offer the 1630 "module" at an attractive price to make it 'easier' to
acquire it for users.

>I would also suggest to you that you contact Chilton or That Patchwork Place
>with your ideas. Chilton publishes hundreds of sewing books, and they are
>always looking for good authors. Chilton books are carried in most book
>stores (they also do the auto repair guides).

Thanks for a good suggestion!  will do :)

>I got a picture in my mind of a binder jointed to bend into a tent so that
>when I'm working with a specific foot I can flip to that page, open the
>binder to _stand up_ for easy visibility while I sew.  (Does anyone else
>see this??? --

Bernina did this with their Bernette (serger) guide book. I too like that
'assembly' since it allows me to keep the book in sight while I'm trying out
a technique.  I'll keep that in mind :)

Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 13:32:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Service

>Doesn't G Street service Berninas?

Yes they do service Berninas.... I stopped in 2 weeks ago and wanted to
leave my machine for a tune up.... I was told they aren't taking any
machines for service until the end of June... their service person has all
she can do getting ready for the sale and then reconditioning trade-ins!
Seems that everytime I can part with my machine... G Street is too busy.  I
tried at Christmas time and they weren't taking machines until the middle
of January!  Even then the sales person told me that it would be 2 weeks
minimum before I could expect it back!

Sure wish there was quick, reliable service..... without driving an hour.
I tried a shop in Hagerstown...earlier this spring and they were too busy.
The dealership where I bought my Bernina is no longer in business.  The
other dealers are not in any hurry to service mine.

Thanks goodness Berninas are so sturdy!
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 14:48:41 -0400
Subject: A question on Bernina books

Clotilde's catalog came yesterday and I noticed in it that she sells some
books especially for the Bernina :

Cut Ups and CUt Outs
Foot Book I
Foot Book II
Just Needling
Heirloom Sewing for 1630
Heirloom Sewing Update

They are all by Mary Lou Nall and Clotilde's sells them for $6.56 apiece.  
Does anyone know if these books are any good?  And if so, is this a good
price for them?

I was going to order them since I have a Bernina 1630 and precious little
time to sew much less go to a class (which takes me an hour to drive to and seem
to only be offered when I am at work) and I thought that these books might
help me learn how to do some things with my machine.  (Boy! what a long sentence

Any information would be appreciated.


Suzanne P
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 15:20:29 -0400
Subject: Advanced Guide Workbook

The Advanced  Guide Workbook is written for all Bernina machines, both
mechanical and computer.  It covers many techniques such as applique,
cutwork, beading, fringing, gathering, cording, etc. etc. etc. It also covers
the wonderful feet made for our Berninas including pintucking, hemming,
piping, etc. etc. etc. If you own  a 1630 you ALSO want to purchase the 1630
Library which only covers features available on this machine including the
stitch designer and directional sewing. None of you have wasted any money by
buying the Advanced Guide Workbook. It is your Bernina "bible" and will
answer so many of the questions that you have about how to do something that
is not covered in the basic guidebook that comes with your machine. Sit down
and read the workbook and the immense world of knowledge that you will find
at your fingertips will blow you away . I will be glad to help anyone who
has a problem understanding how the information contained in the workbook
applies to their model. 

Have you hugged your Bernina today?  Francyne
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 17:37:12 -0400
Subject: Re: A Question on Bernina Books

Please send the address to order the Clotides Catalog.  Thank you.
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 18:42:44 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Jenome 9000

Hi!  The Janome 9000 doesn't hookup to the computer.  At present time 
they will be using the scanner that is available for the 8000.  I'll just 
bet they put out a new scanner though!  I've seen the 9000 and thought 
the emb. was wonderful!
It depends what you want in comparison!

Mary Ann
If I won the lottery I would get the 9000! GGGG
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 12:03:52 EDT
Subject: Jenome 9000

The Jenome 9000 has no PC hook-up capabilities.  It uses
program cards containing embroidery patterns.  It also has
many quilting features.  Call New Home for your nearest
dealer at 1-800-631-0183.  Suggested list is $3799.95.
Sounds as if you're already familiar with the Bernina.  E-me 
if you need more info.  Bob
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 17:08:27 EDT
Subject: Re: BErnina Digest 6/15/95

Reading with interest the frustration Bernina 1630 owners
are going through with lack of support materials.  I wonder 
if anyone out there with this problem is aware of the 1630
Library?  It's a small binder with supplements coming out
every month this year until December.  Supplements should
cost about $9.95.  Try your local dealer first.  If they
don't have them call 1-800-569-5691 to order them.
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 22:43:48 EDT
Subject: 930 Needle Position

On the older 930 models, I was told that the needle position 
can be set to either up or down (not both) by the
technician.  I think it costs about $30 to make the change. 
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 22:44:27 EDT
Subject: 1630 Library

I just purchased 5 issues of the 1630 Library.  They each
sell for $8 and include 5 pages (some of which are half
sheets).  My first impression is that they are
extraoridinarily over-priced.  I need to spend more time
with them to have a final opinion.  The projects didn't look 
very exciting at first glance.  I expected more for the
money.  Any comments??? 
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 09:28:54 -0400
Subject: Re: A Question on Bernina Books

I think the Mary Lou Null's series is the best on the market. I know her
personally and she is one of the most giving people I have ever met. She
travels the country giving workshops at Bernina stores and the are great --
don't miss them.  As for price it is good except for that nasty postage and if you can get your dealer to get them it would be better. They
can order them directly from Mary Lou.  She will be a BU this summer and will
be giving a class.Pat
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 09:32:11 -0400
Subject: Re:  Bernina manuals

I agree that the Bernina manuals aren't perfect, but they are easier than
other machines I've had.  I also have a Pfaff and that manual is very
difficult to use.  When I took guide class, I made notes in my manual as we
did the different exercises and even kept the samples with the pages.  Now,
it's all very easy to use.  
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 10:40:08 -0400
Subject: Sewing Web Sites

Does anyone know of any sewing/serging   web sites?  Do any of the major
manufacturers have any information databases available to the public?


Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 11:48:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/17/95

Wahhh, I don't have any number in that box Sue, there is an 80 in the first
box, and the next box is empty.  I just sent my machine for an upgrade about
3 months ago, does it have to go again>  Oh no.

Date: 18 Jun 95 12:11:26 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 6/17/95

Mary Beth G,

 ROTFLOL!! Thank you so much for the description of the New Home *quilting*
stitches.  Unbelieveable!

 >> I understood at the time that they had their dealership taken away by
Bernina due to service problems. <<  If the dealer was really lousy, yes
Bernina would drop them. He/she may not have realized it but they just told
you that they are not up to Berninas standards.  He/she was trying to justify
their switch and thought they were putting Bernina down.  I guess New home's
standards aren't as high.

 The shop where I teach sells New Homes, Vikings and Berninas.  I get to see
all the machines in action during my classes.  The New Home is a great machine
for crafters and beginner sew-ers.  But anyone who is serious about sewing can
easily tell the difference between the quality of the machines.

 Mary Beth, I hope you don't mind but I had to post your description of the
*quilting* on the quilting forum in CIS.
 We all need such a wonderful laugh, thank you.

 I would also like to clarify my position on the AGWB.  I am a teacher and for
the price, I was expecting a lot more. Most of what is in the AGWB is common
to most machines. However, for someone that doesn't have the resources I do I
think it would be very helpful.

  E-mail from: Laura M
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 12:19:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Sewing Web Sites

I am a novice, what is a Sewing/Serging Web Site?  It's been mentioned a
couple of times here.
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 17:40:15 -0230 (NDT)
Subject: Bernina Early Bird Sales

There was a recent posting that said the Bernina dealers offered 50% off 
Bernina products between 6:00 and 7:00 a.m.  Do all Bernina dealers offer 
these deals or is it only in the U.S.?

I have a friend who is moving to Virgina Beach in July and she is 
interested in getting a Bernina Serger.  Would the dealers there have 
this same early bird sale?  Thanks in advance for any information you have?

Colleen (on husband's account)
Subject: Re: 1630 Library 
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 95 16:18:23 -0400

>Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 22:44:27 EDT
>Subject: 1630 Library

>I just purchased 5 issues of the 1630 Library.  They each
>sell for $8 and include 5 pages (some of which are half
>sheets).  My first impression is that they are
>extraoridinarily over-priced.  I need to spend more time
>with them to have a final opinion.  The projects didn't look 
>very exciting at first glance.  I expected more for the
>money.  Any comments??? 

You got off easy.  My dealer charges $8.95 for each issue of the
Bernina Library!  I seem to remember someone here was getting them for
$4.95.  Even at that price, that's a dollar a page.  

Someone who had the time and skill to produce a good manual for the
1630 could probably make a lot of money selling it for a reasonable
price, if Bernina didn't stop them somehow.

Date: Sun, Jun 18, 1995 2:23 PM
Subject: Mail order Bernina books

I have most of Mary Lou Nall's books, and I like them.  She concentrates on a 
few feet in each book - those specific to book's theme, and she has a page or 
so with drawings and pictures to describe what each foot can do. I think they 
are worth the money, and i learned many techniques from her books.

I'm also glad to hear that some of you like the advanced guide. It was 
presented at one of the Bernina club meetings, but I didn't have a chance to 
look at it, and circumstances have prevented my attending the last two.  I'll 
certainly look for it again.

This is my first posting here, but I read all entries regularly.  So glad for 
all the Bernina friends!
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 19:34:05 -0400
Subject: 1630 books.

I can vouch for the Betty Lou Nall book on Heirloom sewing for the Bernina
1630. She shows a cool way to use the buttonhole foot to make a rolled hem.
 Clotilde's price is also good. If some of you need to order the catalog, or
most other mail order sources, call 1-800-555-1212 and ask for their phone

If you have a new Advanced Guide and can't stand it, email me with a price. I
wouldn't mind buying one. 
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 17:43:47 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/14/95

I just attended my first class in machine quilting yesterday.  One thing
the teacher emphasized was to SECURELY pin baste your work...and after
grudgely following her advice I found it really did make a difference.
She pinned about every 2-1/2''...MUCH closer than I had heard about
before.  Anyway, try again, you CAN do it.
Good Luck
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 19:01:57 MST
Subject: RE: Montana/NE Washington Dealers

Hi Charlene...haven't seen anything from you on the net lately so am 
wondering how your trip to the States went?  Did you find anything exciting?
I was in Calgary yesterday...took me 6 hours to get there since I had
to stop at all the shops...and went through Bragg Creek and Cochrane to
get to my sister's place in Edgemont...found a few nice pieces of fabric
and enjoyed the party at my sisters (her DH 50th b'day).  Gotta get back
to my laundry.....
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 06:09:14 EDT
Subject: Re: Jenome 9000

Hi Bob,
        Are you also a New Home (Jenome) dealer?  Are you planning to
discount the new model?  I'm anxious to see it.

Ruth B
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 06:14:16 EDT
Subject: Re: Advanced Guide Workbook

The Advanced Guide doesn't work for the 1630 unless you paintaking
transcript all the stitch numbers and then some of the directions do not
apply.  Bernina needs to compile one for the 1630.

Ruth B
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 08:16:32 EST
Subject: Altering Walking Feet

After all the talk of how wonderful altered walking feet are,
I called my 'nina shop and asked if they did that. Actually Holly
Kubick does the alternation. She works at MD Sew and Vac but does the
work herself. She charges $10 for a walking foot and less for a #0
foot (which is nice too, the toes are longer than a #6 foot).

Anyway call her today if you're local--301-856-7200, she's on her 
way to Japan tomorrow for a month (her daughter who lives there is
expecting her first child any minute now). Holly's turn-around
time is over night.

If you're not local, call for mail information.

Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 09:47:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Advanced Guide Book

I am not fond of the advanced guide, either.  Seems to be a lot of padding.
 I haven't gotter the Mary Lou Nall book for the 1630 yet but I have been
impressed with her other books.
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 09:46:51 EDT
Subject: Re: Jenome 9000

It's a real shame.  The sewing machine companies have really 
cracked down on me for mail order.  They said they'd take
away my dealerships because "I'm selling for too low a
price".  Unfortunately, they want dealers to be able to sell 
for as high a price as they can.  They don't want to foster 
competition.  So, I won't be mail-ordering machines.  Sorry. 
My advice though is to shop a lot of dealers, even if you
have to drive awhile, because I know the price on this model 
will vary widely.  Thanks for writing and good luck. 
Date: 19 Jun 1995 11:11:11 MDT
Subject: Bernina Early Bird Specials

I'd really like to know if any Bernina Dealer in Canada offers any
type of sale on  Bernina machines?  If anyone knows - please e-mail me.

Thanks in advance
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 10:46:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Jenome 9000

Can you tell me what differences there are between the Jenome 8000 and 9000.

Info appreciated.

Caroline S
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 16:47:45 -0400
Subject: 1630 notebook

I saw the special 1630 notebook and inserts and was unimpressed. 

I am not looking to Bernina to provide literature on their machines beyond
the basic owner's manual though. My macintosh came with a basic owner's
guide, and I was then free to buy whatever Big Mac books, or MacBible, or
Macs for Dummies or whatever third party stuff I chose. I have never looked
to Apple to provide much documentation, nor have I counted on much from
microsoft. I am not in the minority, look at all those third party books that
come out concurrently with new software. I would rather Bernina crank out
some new feet than write books. So you won't hear me complaining about the
video and the instruction manual. Another point I would like to make, is that
the instruction manual is small enough to keep in my machine case and take
wherever I go. I can't take the guide books with, so I would not want a
bigger book to replace the owner's manual.

Since I quilt, I don't buy as many books on sewing clothes as others do but I
do have a pretty good library built up. I do know that Bernina encourages
third party books, in fact they provide machines for many professional
quilters that I know. 

Lately we haven't been discussing much of technique, so I would like to
solicit your ideas on things you can use your pintuck foot for, and which
pintuck foot you like best. Do you have a non pintucking technique that your
foot works for? Do you have a great pintucking idea? Inquiring minds want to
Date: 19 Jun 95 19:13:13 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 6/18/95

NANCY B,  If you really enjoy the quilting classes and get hooked, think
about getting a Quiltak basting gun. I always hated pin basting and with the
Quiltak I can baste a queen size quilt  in under 15 minutes.

  E-mail from: Laura M
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:29:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/17/95

The address for Clotilde's catalog, etc. is:

2 Sew Smart Way B8031
Stevens Point, WI 54481-8031
1-800-772-2891 (for credit card orders) M-F 8:30 - 5 EST
outside USA : 1-715-341-2824
Fax:  1-715-341-3082
Date: 19 Jun 1995 17:32:54 -0700
Subject: Advanced Guide

Hi all,
I've been lurking for ages--on digest.  I'd be interested in an Advanced Guide
also--have never heard of it or looked at it.  If anyone wants to sell one at
a bargain price, let me know.  I know I can get one at 20% off if I wait for
the next sale at a local dealer, so make it lower than that!
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 95 06:03:20 MDT
Subject: Re: Bernina early Bird Specials

Most stores have a year-end sale, as well as a demo sale.  I
bought my 1090 that way.  The store I have in the past supported does quilt 
classes, and "allows" people to rent the Berninas that they use as demos.  I 
had full warranty and a computer machine with the boards "burned in".  ( A 
term from my professional computer world).  Hope this helps.....
Subject: Seam allowances on Bernina patterns
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 95 15:26:59 EDT

	I'm thinking of making the pyjama set that's featured in the #4
Spring/Summer Creative Sewing mag.  However, I don't know whether I 
need to add seam allowances to the pattern pieces; the directions in 
the magazine say to add seam allowances to all pieces, while the directions
on the pattern tissue say that the lines on the pattern pieces are cutting
lines.  What do most of you do when you use these patterns?  
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 17:36:00 -0400
Subject: 1530 vs 1630

I've had a 1630 since they first came out and I haven't been really pleased
with the machine.  Many times I have regretted getting the machine but those
whistles and bells were calling me at the time.  Now I have decided that I
would also like embroidery.  My choice is to trade my 1630  for a 1530 and
possibly consider the Deco 500.  Has anyone ever traded their 1630?  And if
so, did you regret the choice?  Any happy Deco 500 users?  

Looking for advice!!!!!  Thanks in advance!
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 17:28:34 -0500
Subject: 2000 DCE

Does anybody else have this machine? 
This is the new model which can be converted to do
the cover stitch.

Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 15:33:12 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Re: Seam Allowances on Bernina Patterns

Since the designer of these patterns is from Zurich, add the seam
allowances.  I remember when Burda patterns first hit the US market.  Many
ladies were advising everyone to add the seam allowances to the Burda
patterns....that European patterns omit the seam allowances.  Bad enough 
we couldn't read the language, we had to add the seams...but the patterns 
were soo appealing.  Thankfully, Burda saw the light and their patterns 
now include the seam allowances.

Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 22:47:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Advanced Guide

I agree that Bernina does not have to provide their customers with a book.
 We are fortunate that they provide what they do.  Most Sewing machine
companies have only a instruction manual.  Please be more positive and lets
get back to quilting questions and answers.  Thanks.
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 00:24:32 -0400
Subject: Re: 2000 DCE

Dear Dave,
I just got my DCE last week and I love it.  Haven't looked at the manual yet
but the video is great-very instructional.  This video is very different from
the 1630.  Maybe Bernina is reading after all.  I have used the cover stitch
on a bathing suit, a T-shirt and some hem type alterations.  Very
professional results.
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 00:24:34 -0400
Subject: Re: 1630 Memory-memory Subdivide

Dear Carol,
Sorry I didn't answer sooner.  Read your message over the weekend but didn't
have time to reply.  Thought sure someone else would answer your question on
how to get rid of your memory subdivides.  You can handle this and other
editing problems the same way.  
Take the cross cursor (+) and place it on top of the program cursor (-) and
click OK.  The cross cursor will disappear leaving only the program
cursor(PC) on the screen.  Roll the PC along the bottom of your programmed
group of stitches and stop it just to the right of the memory subdivide you
want to remove ( or anything you want to edit\change).  Click the clear and
it will be removed.  Then click OK and your cross cursor will reappear or
roll to the next sub divide and remove it.  Hope this helps.  

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 17:12:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Good Prices

I just spoke to the a very helpful, friendly man at Discount 
Vacuum and Sewing Center in Harrisburg, PA about a price on a new Bernina.
 They have a toll-free number that was posted a couple of weeks ago.  He told
me that as of yesterday he will no longer be selling Bernina's by mail order.
 This edict came down from Bernina.  His prices were great so if you are
anywhere near Harrisburg and in the market for a new Bernina check him out. 
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 13:37:31 PDT
Subject: Tension? problems.

I am having trouble on my 801. All of a sudden, it is gathering instead 
of regular stitch. I moved my tension about half way as far as it would 
go the minus side. I have switched needles, threads, bobbins, oiled the 
machine, etc.

Any more ideas?
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 00:26:03 -0700
Subject: Re: 2000 DCE

I am also in any information anyone has on this new machine.
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 19:18:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Berninas &the Deco500


I will tell you the decision I made and why I made it. Before last November I
had a Pfaff 1473  and a Bernina 830. I joined the Pfaff mailing list to find
out what its software would do on the top of the line machine and also
investigated what the Bernina 1630 software would do. On the basis of what I
found out, I bought a 1530, which is the same thing as a 1260 only with a
little screen and trackball. Essentially they both do the same thing, and I
would highly recommend either. I wanted the original hook mechanism which the
1630 is not able to have because of its ability to make the wide stitches.
What I wanted the software on either the Pfaff or Bernina to do, and which it
will not, is to digitize the stitches for me. In other words, if I draw
something, I want the machine to be able to stitch it, without my having to
tell it where to place each stitch. After I got the 1530, I began
investigating embroidery machines and the scanners they use and found out
that the Bernette Deco 500 would be made by Brother who makes the Esprit and
the Essante, one of which is just an embroidery machine and the other of
which is a sewing machine and  embroidery machine.  The Bernette Deco was not
out yet, so I waited to see it and decided to buy it because it came with, I
believe, 30 more built-in designs and did not come with a card. I also bought
the scanner which comes with one blank card because the idea was to be able
to input my own designs.  If you have the scanner, you can also use the
KanScan designs which are a very good value and which come in groups on cards
to scan in yourself.  I have her quilt designs which are wonderful and can be
done in 3 sizes. 

The Deco 500 is not a sewing machine, and unless you have another sewing
machine, I would not trade it for one. But perhaps you can work out a deal
for a 1260 or 1530 plus an 
embroidery machine. If there is anything else I can tell you, let me know.

Mary M
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 19:42:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Tension? problems


If it is gathering is it the bobbin thread that is being pulled too tightly?

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 21:22:57 -0400
Subject: Re: 1530 vs.1630


I went through a period of time where I was less than thrilled with my 1630,
and like you, played with the idea of "trading-down" to the 1530.  I've since
come to understand the differences between the 1630 and previous models, as
well as to appreciate the things that can only be done on the 1630.  I really
do believe that the 1630 is a great machine, and perhaps the best of the
9mm/multi-directional feed machines.

I'm convinced that any difference in operation is really a question of the
9mm stitch width, and the wider presser feet, feed dogs, and needle hole.
 (More adjustments to tension are required to accomodate thicker fabrics or
threads, softer fabrics are more likely to get caught in the needle hole, and
sometimes it's just a real pain to have such a big presser foot.)

Given the sort of sewing that I do (which was more than accomodated by my
1230) I can't say that I would the same decision to invest in the 1630.

On the other hand, if you are in the least bit interested in decorative
stitching, the difference between 5mm and 9mm seems a lot more than 4mm!  We
had a great class on wide border designs at my dealer, and while I've yet to
actually make anything other than samples, it's still been pretty impressive.
 Sometimes it's fun to experiment without any real project in mind.

Since you've already made the investment in the 1630, and may not be able to
recapture fair value on a trade-in or re-sale, maybe we can help you sort out
some of your frustrations with the 1630.


Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 22:03:40 -0400
Subject: Bernina 940 Favorit


I am new to the list. I owe a Bernina 940 Favorit (not many people know 
of it) and a Bernette 730.

I wonder if someone could help me. I work as a hupholsterer, and even 
that my 940 is powerful, I want to know if it is possible to install a 
Heavy duty motor or a version with more power, I know it will not be as 
an industrial motor, but maybe something faster.


Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 20:47:09 -0500
Subject: Re: 2000 DCE

  > I am also in any information anyone has on this new machine.
  > --Linda

Well, I got one just a couple of weeks ago, and I'm pretty pleased.

I do think that something could have been done to make it easier to
switch back and forth from serging to cover stitch. Everytime I do the
conversion (twice a night), I think I've done it really fast, but then
something happens, and it takes a little longer than I would have
thought. For instance, I'll have not quite gotten the thread in the
tensioner right, and the stitch is off.  This seems to be the most
common occurrence.

I would suggest that they make the plate a "snap out" kind of affair,
and make it so that the entire needle head could be replaced with an
alternate.  This would eliminate the removal and reinstallation of the
needles all the time.  This would leave only the re-threading of the 
machine as the most time consuming part of it.

I have a couple of other things that happen to me. When doing cover 
stitch, some extra thread will get caught so that I can't remove the
cloth when I stop sewing.  Usually what happens is that the material
stops feeding thru the machine.  I think a stray thread causes this
to happen, rather than the threads from the looper or needles.

I also have some difficulty getting it to "cross over" lumps in the
fabric, where a seam is for instance. It doesn't feed as forcefully
as the serger mode.

When I took my "orentation class" it appeared that the serger
performance was identical to the 2000.

I like the cover stitch (I am making swimwear and bike shorts, etc)
and the stitch it produces looks perfect as long as it feeds properly.
My stuff looks *much* better than before!


ps. does anybody have any tips on using the "elasticator" foot with the
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 14:08:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Berrnina Digest 6/20/95

Judy- you are in the same boat as me.  I too got my 1630 when they first came
out, it is ok, but not as good as my 1530 was.  I am thinking about trading
down to a 1530 and then getting the Bernette Deco 500.  I haven't heard
anything back about the Deco.  
Have you taked to your dealer yet?  I haven't.
Subject: Object of this group.
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:04:30 PDT

>Please be more positive and lets get back to quilting questions and answers.<

Am I midunderstanding this group?  I thought we were suppose to be able 
to talk Bernins'a in this group, commenting about our problems and asking 
help from others when we do not have a supportive dealer?  Everyone may 
not be quilters in this group?  Questions pertaining to only quilting can 
be obtained on a quilting newsgroup.  I just happen to love Bernina's, 
sewing and quilting. ^_^.

Jean P
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 12:19:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Berrnina Digest 6/20/95

If anyone knows of a used Bernina 1090 I'd love to hear about it!
Subject: Re: 2000 DCE
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:00:39 EDT

How much is this serger selling for?  Do you think it is worth upgrading to
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 10:31:40 +0500
Subject: Directional Quilting

Over the weekend I tried out the walking foot on a 1630 and
set it up for directional stitching (stitching sideways, etc.).
It didn't work with the walking foot, although the straight
foot and the rotary foot (#41) work just fine for directional
stitching on the 1630.

I had hoped to use this directional stitching for machine
quilting with the walking foot.  Has anyone tried this?
Any suggestions?  It would certainly make it easier to
quilt a large top - there'd be less pivoting and spinning
the quilt around under the needle.  (Think stitching in
the ditch for a log cabin quilt.)

Thanks in advance,
Monica T

p.s.  I have a 1630, but I don't have the walking foot yet.  The
      dealer hasn't gotten in the "new" walking foot that fits
      all the machines and that's the one I want.
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 09:43:03 EDT
Subject: Re: Advanced Guide

Isn't this a Bernina discussion?

Ruth B
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 09:44:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina 940 Favorit

Hello Milagros,

I have an 803 that I wanted to upgrade to an industrial motor when I 
bought it 20 years ago.  For some reason I never got around to upgrading 
it.  Last year I learned that it was a good thing I didn't because it was 
learned that putting an industrial motor on it would have done damage to 
the machine.  What is suggested now is to either tighten the belts or put 
stronger belts on the machine, something like that.  You may wish to 
check into that possibility.

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 08:37:43 -0500
Subject: which on top?

I have read many times how to do this and of course, now when I need to know,
I have forgotten it all.  I am about to sew two layers together, one is 
straight grain and the other bias.  Does the bias go on top or on the bottom
to allow better feeding through my machine?  I have the 1530.  What am I
working on?  Glad you ask.

I have had an applique block, a bird on a branch, for a while and have been
looking for an octagonal setting to finish off this little gem.  I had 
originally taken a Nancy Pearson hand applique class.  I liked this pattern
so much, that a few years ago when adding a stained glass to our home, I asked
the glass person if she could duplicate this pattern in glass.  She did.  The
window in my home is octagonal, so that is why I want an octagonal setting
for the quilt block.  In Nancy Pearson's new book (Floral Applique? something
like that), she shows such a setting.  I'm now getting ready for the final
border.  Think I'll add some glitz to jazz this thing up.

Yesterday I got the book "Quilted Sea Tapestries."  I was a little reluctant
to get this book, thinking who wants to make fish, but this book is just
amazing.  And the author, Ginny Eckley, uses a Bernina throughout the book.
The way the book is written, the how-to's are for any machine, but on close-ups
it's easy to see the machine is a Bernina and so are all of the feet.

And tomorrow, I am going to Quilt America!, sponsored by Bernina.  I hear they
will have 20% off on Bernina feet.

Ida T
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 10:26:37 -0400
Subject: Object of this Group

I second Jean's comments.  I'm interested in all facets of the Bernina.  I
think commentaries/ consumer information from real users is extremely
valuable.  Likewise sewing tips, quilting info etc.

You know sewers on the net are a bit like the white lions in the wild.;
there aren't many os us.  The average owner of a top-of-the-line sewing
machine is now female 50 +. ( It would be interesting to know if this list
follows the real world stats.)

 This makes our demographics on the net a tad different from the overall,
male-whie 39.  So lets make room for all.

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 11:11:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Object of this group

I, too, thought this was about "quilting", which I enjoy in my "spare-time".
I also have a Bernina, which I really l-o-v-e. I was hoping to get some great
quilting tips (since I'm relatively "new" to quilting and many of the
techniques I have picked up on my own or from magazines on quilting or books
I have bought. 

Sometimes pictures just don't show you everything and I had hoped to get some
neat hints from this. I have only made 3 "totally-by-hand" quilts and have 
done 4 on the machine (2 on the Bernina -- but I AM hand-quilting).

Any helpful hints will be appreciated. I just got the technique down last
summer (on vacation) of how to "hide" the knot---perfectly! I also just learned
to do 6-10 stitches per inch so as a "self-taught" individual, am quite proud
of those TWO accomplishments.

I enjoy the "hints" on the Bernina's, too!

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 10:34:00 -0400
Subject: Re: 1530 vs 1630 &Deco500

Hi all,

Thanks to all of you for your help.  This is a great bunch of people.  Ray
had asked if I had any specific concerns about the 1630 that maybe you could
help me with.  Here goes: 

a)   the bobbin thread/stitch is not consistent....looks loopy a few
stitches, slanted like \\\\ for a few stitches and then makes another slack
loopy stitch.  As a quilter it makes me want to scream garment
construction, it makes my top-stitching look terrible!!!!!  I have had
numerous adjustments done by my Bernina service person (who, by the way, is
*very* good, so I don't blame anything there); my machine has been cleaned
and oiled; I am using a new needle and the proper size; Metrosene thread; and
my machine went back to Bernina for a gear up-date since it was one of the
yucky serial numbers.  

b)   I don't use the Designer Software because it is a lot of trouble  with
poor results....I never could get any of my designs to stitch properly.  The
big software expense plus the time &effort needed to properly set the
stiches does not produce the desired results.

d)   I don't really like the pictograms/motifs nor the hefty price of the
add-on modules, so I don't use this feature. I would prefer embroidery.
 (That's where the thought of a 1530 &Deco500 came from)

These are the reasons why I've been contemplating trading back for a 1530,
even though it will cost me.  I've been sewing for many years (wow, thinking
about it makes me feel old, so I won't think about it) so I *know* that my
expectations are not unreasonable.   If I thought there was a way to get the
quality work from this machine that I have received from my other Berninas, I
would stay with it.  My frustration is really high!! 

It is true that I would miss the wider stitch witdth, but I can live without
it.  I will miss a lot of the whistles and bells, but because of them I am
giving up a great straight-stitch.  That's why I bought a Bernina in the
first place.

Gee, to give you an indication of my desperation/dissatisfaction.....I have
been thinking about selling the 1630, getting a good used Bernina (for
quilting and some garment construction)  and putting my money in the New Home

I'm open to all helpful advice and feedback from others.  Oh, and thanks for
letting me whine a little.  :-)

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 10:20:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Tension? problems

To Diane with the 801---
Sounds like one of the tension spots just closed up!!

Check the bobbin tension to be sure everything is clean and clear.
Check & clean the upper tension by pulling a heavy thread through the
lossened upper disks , then put alcohol on the thread and pull it through
again to make sure it is clean and clear.

If that doesn't work, you may need to take it in to your dealer.
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 95 10:13:56 PDT
Subject: Re: Tension? problems.

I tested it as suggested in one of my books by letting the bobbin hang 
by holding the thread. It did not drop at all, but when I jerked it 
like a yoyo it did drop some. Does that indicate that the tension is correct?


Subject: Re: Tension? problems.
Date: Wednesday, June 21, 1995 9:53PM

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 19:42:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Tension? problems


If it is gathering is it the bobbin thread that is being pulled too tightly?

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 15:28:32 -0400
Subject: Group Demographics

Interesting subject, sewing machine owner demographics!

Me.....White, college graduate, homemaker, 34, own a Bernina 1630, midwest

anyone else?

Mary Beth 
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 10:00:12 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Re: Tension? problems


Sounds good to me.  Now all you have to do is sew a test strip and judge
your stitches.  If you must 'screw' ^_^ around with the bobbin, be sure to
adjust your bobbin in a clear plastic bag.  If that little screw drops, it
will fall in the bag and be easily found.  Believe me, I'm speaking from
experience.  You don't want it to drop on the carpet like mine did.  As
for screw direction...Righty, Tighty; Lefty, Loosey.  As soon as you find 
the correct tension, mark the screw position either with nail polish or, 
better still, a marker that works on metal.  Just remember, it only takes 
a teensy-weensy-whisper turn of the screw.

Hope this helps.

Announcement:  Yippeeeee!  My 1530 is due to arrive today, tomorrow or 
Saturday.  I've dreamed of this moment for many, many moons.  It's 
replacing my reliable Riccar that has taught me how to creatively adjust to 
its limited capabilities.

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:52:15 PDT
Subject: Re: Tension problems?

Thank you very much. I will try that tonight. The reason I haven't 
taken it to a repair man yet is that I have had a couple of commissions 
to complete, so I have been trying to limp along.
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 17:00:06 -0400
Subject: 801 gathering stich

From your post I could not tell if the problem that you are having is caused
by the stitch length suddenly being a basting stitch length or if the stitch
length is the same but the fabric is bunching up. Can you clarify? If the
problem is tension related, have you remembered to lower your presser foot
when changing the tension dial and raise the presser foot when threading the
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 18:03:31 EDT
Subject: Re: Jenome 

Sorry, I can no longer mail order machines.  The companies say my 
prices are too low.  Try calling New Home at 1-800-631-0183.  They 
can help you.  SORRY!!
Subject: Re: Group Demographics 
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 95 18:04:36 -0400

Okay, I'll go next...

white, college graduate, employed full-time outside the home (computer
networking R&D), 41, own a Bernina 1630, New England location

It would be disappointing (but not unexpected) to discover that we are
a pretty undiverse (e.g. overwhelmingly white and female) group.

Debbie D
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 18:30:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Group Demographics
> Interesting subject, sewing machine owner demographics!
> anyone else?

Mary Beth:

White, female, 37, college graduate (grad school grad, too), corporate
controller, mother, wife, own 1260.
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 16:15:49 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

I'll be the non-haole of this 'Group Demographics'.

chocolate, asian pacific, hi-school grad, blue collar worker, unemployed,
54, Aquarian, just received 1530, quilter and sewing miscellany.

CiCi W
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 18:40:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

Milagros, 35, work making house 
cushion, seamstress, alterations, design, pattern making, own a Bernina 
940 Favorit, Bernette 730. About Race-Human. Location caribbean.


Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 20:38:34 -0600
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

White, female, BS, MBA, Shop owner, homemaker, mother, grandmother, 63,
Midwest, own 930, no serger
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 16:01:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

ok, White male (my mother in law thinks something is wrong with me 
for wanting to sew!)
college graduate (computer sciences), 45 (ack!) Bernina 2000DCE

Date:           Thu, 22 Jun 95 19:11 EDT
Subject:        Converting a Bernina from 220v to 110v

G'day all,

I am moving back home to the US in a couple months and need to convert my
1230 that I bought while in Sydney from 220v to 110v.  The dealer I bought it
from here said it was not problem to do and something they do all the time...
I was getting ready to take it in to them when it occurred to me that after
the service, I would have no way to check out the machine to be sure it works
ok until after I got back to the US.  So I am thinking that instead of having
this done here in Australia, I wait until I get back to the US.

My question is, has anyone else on the list heard of doing this?  Can I
expect a reputable Bernina service shop in the US to know how to do this?
Any comments or advice on this idea?



Subject: Re: Group Demographics
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 95 23:20:46 EDT
Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85]

Me,  I am a white/Hispanic Male 34 and I copy all of these messages
every day at the end of the day (I must have a log of 3 months still
on line) 
for my white 33 wife that owns a 1630 and 
New Home 8000 (She got it used at a good price for decorative stitches)

Emil V
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 10:03:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Object of this group

Just have to add my .02 to this.  I too, am a Bernina lover and avid 
quilter, mostly hand, but I learn a lot from machine quilters on this 
group and hope such discussion continues because they have given me the 
confidence to try machine quilting again.

Date:           Thu, 22 Jun 95 21:17 EDT
Subject:        Re: Group Demographics

White, female, 42, computer programer, 1230 owner, mother, wife (in no
particular order).

Date: 	Wed, 21 Jun 1995 08:54:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Advanced Guide

I agree with you about returning to the positive, but I did not think this was
exclusively for quilters...some of us who own Bernina's are not obsessed with
quiliting.  Is this a quilters group?

Date: 23 Jun 95 07:44:29 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 6/21/95

Ray,    >> softer fabrics are more likely to get caught in the needle hole,
and sometimes it's just a real pain to have such a big presser foot. <<

 There is a straight ftitch plate for the 1630.  I got one because of the
amount of patchwork and stright seaming I do.  It had a hole jsut big enough
for the needle to pass through.  I highly recommend it.

  E-mail from: Laura M

Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 08:00:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

white, 46, BA Biology, married, 3 teenagers! 5 horses(2 preg) 5 dachshunds,
currently unemployed, spent the winter working as a technical support rep for
tax software(LOVED IT), 1630 and 334ds
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 08:10:15 +0500
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

Okay, I'm female, 43, white, BA, MS, employed full-time (computer 
networking software), married, no kids, one dog, own a Bernina 1630, 
no serger, live in Mid-Atlantic US.

Monica T
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 08:19:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

Female, 44, college grad (chemist by degree); occupation: manage (computer
work, accounting, payroll, taxes, invoicing, paying bills, etc) our small
consulting business and do desk top publishing out of our home, (DH works at
our office and those of clients); mom of 3 our  young, very active boys (ages
3, 6, and 10), own 1630 (just upgraded from 1530; I decided to upgrade to get
the wider stitch width, etc., as I can't justify the additional expense of
buying the Deco 500 &scanner) and 1090.

Congratulations, CiCi on getting your 1530! You'll love it! 

Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 08:57:09 EST
Subject: Bernina Users Demographics

Is anyone keeping track of the survery responses?

I will, and will post a summary next week (provided my baby doesn't
arrive too far ahead of schedule).

Please send ME your answers and cc the list if you want. I won't
accept a survery response if I don't get a personal copy. This way
I know I won't have more that 1 response for a 'nina fan.

Please tell me:

State, country, island, etc.
Education (check highest that applies)
  didn't finish high school
  finished high school
  some college
  college grad
  some grad school
  advanced degree holder
Income (optional)
bernina(s) owned
other machines owned
family (mom of 2, dad of 1, grandma of 10, single, etc.)
I use my 'nina for: (check all that apply)
  recreational sewing-occasional or special outfits
  making everything I wear
  general sewing, somewhere in between the first 2
  doll/toy making
  part of my buisness
  other, please list

Please send me your survey responses by Wednesday of next week,
June 28. Please put NINA SURVEY in the subject line.
Sue: how many folks read this group? This will give me a response

I know this will be a survey I'll enjoy compiling!!

Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 09:12:12 EST
Subject: Machine quilting

I am in the process of trying to machine quilt my first quilt.  My Bernina
dealer suggested the Lover's Knot a.k.a. The Twisted Log Cabin.  Since I am a
novice at sewing, she felt with the book I would be able to do well with it. 
So I am writing to see if anyone has any advice.  Books don't tell all the
secrets to making beautiful quilts.  I have already bought the material, that
is all except the back material.  What type and color of thread is the best to
use?  Does the back material have to be one of the front colors or can it be a
totally different color?  I have a Bernina 1080 and I have done some sewing on
it.  It is hard for me to find projects that I can complete without having to
ask a lot of questions.  I have taken a few classes from my dealer.
For the demographics -- I am white, female, 32, and born and raised in Montana,
but have lived in Virginia since 1988.  Please continue all the wonderful
advice.  I read my mail every week day and sometimes on weekends.  Thanks
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 10:07:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Object of this group

Hi Everyone, 

Before this gets too carried away I figured I'd better step in here.  I started 
the Bernina Fan Club for all Bernina users.  Since I originally announced this 
group on several quilting forums, we have alot of quilters, but the BFC is for 
anyone.  An topic that relates to Berninas is okay (Including an OCASIONAL want 
ad).  My goal is to provide Bernina owners a forum for discussion, 
question/answers, techniques, whatever, that involve their Berninas.  So, 
quilting, machine embroidery, clothing construction, manuals, dealers, tension 
problems, new attachements, &on &on are all okay.  While disagreement is to be 
expected, FLAMING is not allowed (though I've never had any trouble with it 
here).  The only topic that I refuse to repost a message about is the Mac/PC 

And, I'm really finding it interesting to see how diverse of a group we rally 
are.  Okay, any questions on this post, please direct them to me
Sue T
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 10:24:20 -0400
Subject: Benefits of Knowing Who You Are

The  interesting thing about being a group is that inherent economic power
that gives you.

I live in Toronto, there is quite a bit of  "Broadway" theatre here now.
However the price of tickets is 65-0 for one ticket to a show.  A group of
mothers  musing over this hit the Eureka button with the concept of buying
tickets in group blocks.  Instead of Phantom tickets at 65.00 pop we paid
15.00 when we become the Moms of Swansea Theatre Group.  

Now some of you are saying  " What is this woman talking about?"  Please
bear with me.

If we as a group decide that we are interested in finding out our
demographics  .. "Who We Are" and what needs we have in common... then we
may have some strong economic power for both purchasing and  quality issues.  

I taught sewing &serging for 6 years and worked at arms-length and within a
sewing dealership for most of that time.    There are a lot of tricks to the

So ... let's find out who we are...... if you don't want to post directly to
the list, email me directly.  I'll compile a list. I'll post it in a week.
Throw out some ideas..... you never know where it will lead.

Nice to Meet You All,


"Charter Member of Sew-A-Holics Anonymous"
Date:         Fri, 23 Jun 95 10:35:54 EDT
Subject:      Re: Bernina Digest 6/22/95

RE: Demographics Question

White, female, 37 (until next week), married, mother of two, BA, MA, and
currently a PhD candidate (oral comps next week).  Bernina 1230, Bernette
334DS...mainly sew clothes and gift items.

Anita H
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 10:47:53 -0400
Subject: various

I apologise in advance if my comments seem snide. I haven't slept well in a
few days due to a lack of air conditioning during a heat wave. Which makes me
realize that demographically I am a suburban princess. I think that tells you
all you need to know about my demographics.....

Regarding Mr. Vasile's mail order problem, I was frankly surprised to hear
that your prices were too low. I called your number and the price I was
quoted for a 1630 was higher than I paid locally. The feet were priced the
same. I would think it is more a matter of you not being able to pursue sales
in other's territories. 

Regarding Quilt America and the 20% discount- I took advantage of that big
time in Paducah, they had a bunch of feet marked down to $12 (clear applique
foot, pintuck, hemming...) I bought one of each, but since I don't have all
the pintuck and hemming feet I will work on that... which reminds me, there
is a quilt show in Fond Du Lac coming up, maybe that would be a good time to
buy some feet....

Regarding the quilt vs. Bernina thing. This is the Bernina fan club, but a
lot of members here are also on quiltnet. Perhaps sometimes the messages get
crossed, or the recipient is confused as to the source of the messages. If
you don't subscribe in digest form it can be confusing. 

Regarding the 1630 problems, I will again say that the stitch on my machine
is fine. Once in a while it goes wacky, and it is because I have accidently
brushed the width wheel. Maybe you got a lemon? 

I looked at the Home 9000 a few days ago, but didn't have time for a demo. It
is pretty interesting. It is a sewing machine and an embroidery machine. Then
mechanism that holds the hoop can also hold a seam guide. So if you tell it
the seam allowance you want, this plastic thing slides over to give you a
guide to lean the fabric against. It also has a knee lift which looked the
same as the Bernina to me, but I didn't try it. Also, they have a few quilt
blocks built into the memory. You tell it what size you want the overall
block to be, and it will tell you what size to cut including seam allowance.
I thought it was interesting, but why put it on a sewing machine? I am still
wary of the New Home, the Bernina seems to be better built, even if the
machine memory capabilities sound so limited. I think of the Bernina as a
Rolls Royce, high quality, maybe not so many bells and whistles, the New Home
and Pfaff as sports car, lots of bells and whistles....(But I've never seen a
rolls royce.) I think the solution is for us all to become famous sewers and
buy one of each....But at this point I would definately look at the New Home
over the Pfaff...
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 08:19:03 -0600
Subject: Group Demographics

     Okay, I'll jump in.
     White, female (surprise, surprise!), 28, BS/CS - R&D software 
     engineer, wife, mother (in the order of how they were accomplished), 
     1630 and 334DS owner.
     Just wanted to add that I am currently teaching 3 people to sew.  Yea! 
      Our passion may yet live on in others. :-) 
     Kari A
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 11:23:41 EST
Subject: Re:  Group Demographics

I'm afraid that I am also white, a college graduate, was employed
full time until last week when I retired , 62 and just purchased
my first Bernina a couple of months ago -- a 1001 with the knee needle
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 11:54:53 -0400
Subject: Group Demographics

Hi all,

Married white female (sounds like a personal add), 42 (yikes!!! --- when did
*that* happen), homemaker/wife/mother, 1630 and 2000DE.

Judy (NC)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 12:08:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Users Demographics

BA and lots of grad school
Own 1630 334DS Deco 500, 1230
Wife of one, mother of 2, grandmother of 1 and 1/3.
I use my Berninas for therapy!

Thanks for doing this.  I have found the responses interesting.
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 12:45:28 -0400
Subject: re: Group Demographics

I am a high-school graduate, female, white, 56 years old, widow, do
bookkeeping from home part-time.  I quilt, sew, read mysteries, and take
care of grandchildren.  I own a 1630, New Home cheapo and a White Blue Jean
Machine.  The 1630 is for home, the New Home is for carrying to workshops (I
bought it because it is lightweight) and the White is for my grandaughters
to sew with.
Date:          Fri, 23 Jun 1995 11:39:24 EST5DST
Subject:       Re: Machine Quilting

I am in the process of trying to machine quilt my first quilt.  My Bernina
dealer suggested the Lover's Knot a.k.a. The Twisted Log Cabin.  Since I am a
novice at sewing, she felt with the book I would be able to do well with it. 
So I am writing to see if anyone has any advice.  Books don't tell all the
secrets to making beautiful quilts. 

TRESEA - I highly recommend you get a comprehensive book about 
quiltmaking, such as Tony Fannings Complete Guide to Machine Quilting 
(or something like that). There is a new version just out recently, 
and it is full of everything you need to know except hand quilting.  
They discuss different threads, needles, batting, sewing machines, 
making a basting frame, basting the three layers together, adding the 
binding, etc.  There are no patterns - this is a "how-to" reference 
book.  I've been quilting for about 10 years and have a large library 
of quilting books and magazines, yet have found great info in this 
book.  No affiliation, just an avid reader
Linda P
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 13:23:00 -0400
Subject: Demographics

Tomorrow I will be 39. Female/white , I'm a Manager in a Casino, and own a
1230 which I love to sew on, mother, wife.(not in order of importance)

I have heard anybody on this list talk about 1230's. Does anyone have one.

Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 13:31:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/22/95

For the demographics collection:

white, female, 34, BS with graduate hours, own a 1260, a serger and an old

Date:     Fri, 23 Jun 95 11:01:57 PDT
Subject:  Group Dynamics/Object of Group

This and that:

(Unlurking on this group)...

 Group Demographics:

I am a 52 y.o. bicycle tourist, student services person , hold an advanced degree, 
garden, sew with a 1090
Bernina, have a new-to-me Bernette 334DS (which I purchased used
from someone on - very successfully for both of us).  An old
Elna 400 SU lurks in the closet.   Mostly I lurk on this group and
read/post on alt.sewing and rec.c.t.s.

Object of this group:

I thought it was to discuss all types of Bernina issues.  Not
quilting specifically, nor just sewing, nor just serging.  But all
facets of the use of Bernina machines.  To that end, I am a bit
confused as to why all the commotion about the New Home (Janome)
machines.  Shouldn't those discussions be posted to the newgroups?


Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 12:55:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

What is the knee needle lift?  does this cause the needle to 
go to the up position?  Does anybody make a machine where the 
presser foot and needle can be lifted by something you can press
with your knee or foot?


Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 11:28:38 -0700
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

I'll add my bio to this:

White, Female, Married, Mother of 4, almost a grandmother, 42 years old,
college grad, system analyst, own a 1530, mostly make quilts but took last
year off to make my daughter's wedding gown.

Pam P
Date: 23 Jun 95 14:48:39 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/22/95

Hi all,
     I am a white, 44 year old mother of 6;( 3 boys 18,14,&8, and 3 girls
16,12,&10).  My husband and I have a pipeing business so I get to work from home
(and sneak off for kid's functions or to sew when the urge strikes).
 I have a 1630, an 1130 I couldn't part with
for the trade-in price, 2000DE and 335 serger; and am looking into trading for
the newest serger when my dealer gets one in; I like the idea of the chain
stitch.  Have owned Berninas for seven years and because of them my sewing has
increased and improved.
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 12:57:04 -0600
Subject: 1230

     Hi Pat!
     I used to own a 1230.  I gave it to my mom when I bought the 1630.  It 
     was a great machine!  I keep trying to get her to take some lessons on 
     it, because she's not using it to the fullest potential.
     Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the 1230 is no longer 
     made - the 1260 replaced it.  I hope you are enjoying your 1230 as 
     much as I did mine.
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 15:06:33 -0400
Subject: The truth about the: 1530 vs 1630 &Deco 500


The issue of the 1630 not performing a straight staight stitch is well known
by Bernina.

  The hook on Bernina's was changed when the 1630 came out.  The 1230 and
the 1530 have a rotary hook.  The 1630 has and oscillating hook.  no amount
of fiddling is going to demonstrably  improve your 1630's straight stitch.
Using a straight stich plate may however improve it marginally.

>a)   the bobbin thread/stitch is not consistent....looks loopy a few
>stitches, slanted like \\\\ for a few stitches and then makes another slack
>loopy stitch.  As a quilter it makes me want to scream garment
>construction, it makes my top-stitching look terrible!!!!!  I have had
>numerous adjustments done by my Bernina service person (who, by the way, is

If they can't fix your stitch tension.  Demand they replace your machine .
You paid good money, and a lot of it.
Squeeky wheels do get oiled.

>b)   I don't use the Designer Software because it is a lot of trouble  with
>poor results....I never could get any of my designs to stitch properly.  The
>big software expense plus the time &effort needed to properly set the
>stiches does not produce the desired results.
The software produced for the Bernina is I think well overpriced.  The
product  if one compares it to say graphicsl software is a Grandmother of an
item.  The lack of competition in this area - monopoly due to low sales
volume means Bernina can get away with this unless consumers stand up and
say no.

>d)   I don't really like the pictograms/motifs nor the hefty price of the
>add-on modules, so I don't use this feature. I would prefer embroidery.
> (That's where the thought of a 1530 &Deco500 came from)

You will probably be very happy with the 1530 .  It is really a rehoused
1230 - a true princess of a machine.
But think before going into the Deco 500.  All the embrodiery only machines
are produced in one factory
I'll give you one guess whose.  Yes Jenome.  Different  housing and artwork
are bundled with the different models.  But a Brother is a Phaff, is a
Bernina.  So look for the stitch quality and artwork you want first.

>would stay with it.  My frustration is really high!! 

Good Luck


"Don't just expect quality  - demand quality"
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 13:16:05 MST
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

No...this is about the "knee needle lift"....actually it is a presser
foot lifter...does nothing to the needle...the needle up/down position is
controlled by either the foot pedal or by a button on your machine (depending
on the model)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 15:49:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Machine Quilting

Welcome to the fabulous, relaxing world of quilting! This is how I "wind-
down" after a very BUSY day in the office.

I have done a few quilts on the machine. The best "hint" I can give to you
is something I have learned in my short 5-years in quilting -- I really like
to machine sew the pieces together -- seems to go a little faster for me. I
prefer to hand-quilt after the assembly is done -- I like that "personal"

Cut pieces with rotary blade (you can do it much faster that way). I read that
in a magazine -- no one told me!

I think you would rather have the quilt back match one of the fabrics in your
quilt -- I think that also adds character.

Survey info:

White, female, 50+, employed (Administrative Secretary), own Bernina 1630.
Hobbies are gardening, quilting, cross-stitching, playing with our 7-mo. old
Retriever/Lab mixed dog (who, by the way, is already bigger than me). I enjoy
quilting best of all -- it is relaxing. I read my E-Mail from the Internet.
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 15:01:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Converting a Bernina from 220v to 110v

Judy -

You might to check and see exactly what they will be doing.  I spend most of
my childhood in Europe and I remember that there was a converter that my
mother used on her appliances.  I do know that it did not involve changing
much.  It may have been something as simple as a plug adapter.

Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 12:06:10 PDT
Subject: Re:  Group Demographics

Me next,

married, mom, 35, white, college grad, self-employed professional drafter,
have 1630 &software still on the credit card, not much time to sew until
I pay it off!  My sewing machine is also worth more than my 1983 Mustang GT.
Also, this machine was my first 'purchase' after years of using a hand-me-
down singer.  What a difference!

Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 16:32:29 EST
Subject: Nina Survey

Hi Everyone,

It's me again, Karen, looking forward to  
compiling the demographics of bernina users, instead of the usual
programming stuff I do. 

I did not think to save the demographics info from the beginning,
only after I posted my first survey message. Therefore, please
send *ME* your info as well as the group. I have the messages
that people sent me directly and that's all.

I won't be getting my mail until next Wednesday because my son
is going in the hospital for some tests on Monday and tuesday.
Anyway, I'll file anything with Nina survey in the subject
line for the survey when I get back.

Thanks for understanding,
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 17:19:13 -0400
Subject: Re: 1530 vs 1630 &Deco 500


In a message dated 95-06-22 13:51:38 EDT, you write:

>a)   the bobbin thread/stitch is not consistent....looks loopy a few
>stitches, slanted like \\\\ for a few stitches and then makes another
>slack loopy stitch.  As a quilter it makes me want to scream
>garment construction, it makes my top-stitching look terrible!!!!!  I have
>had numerous adjustments done by my Bernina service person (who, by the
>way, is *very* good, so I don't blame anything there); my machine has been
>cleaned and oiled; I am using a new needle and the proper size; Metrosene
>thread; and my machine went back to Bernina for a gear up-date since it was
>of the yucky serial numbers. 

Sounds like you've double (and triple!) checked all the obvious problems.
 I'd say that your dealer should step up to the plate here -- fix it or give
you a new machine.  (It might also give you some leverage if you're serious
about trading the 1630 for a 1530 &Deco 500.)

I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with the person who said:

I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with the person who said:

 >Most mechanics will tell you that it's not worth debating which is better -
>oscillating or rotary.  I believe that Bernina's industrial machines have
>long used rotary hooks.

One of the interesting things about selling sewing machines is the
perception, the urban legend, that the mechnic will tell you the truth at a
sewing centre.  The mechanic is hired by the person who owns the store.
Usually if he is dealing with customers he is told to never say anything
negative, about any line, to any customer and  if inventory is high, push
brand X.  Often the mechanic also gets a piece of the commission on a
machine sale.  

>  I believe that Bernina's industrial machines have long used rotary hooks.

Yes, this isone of the reasons they have such a reputation for quality.

>In fact, I'd even go so far as to say that I could stitch on my 1130 right
>next to the 1630's stitching and you probably couldn't tell the difference.

That's wonderful Ray, but Judy's 1630  doesn't sew straight, and makes loops
on the bottom.
She's had it checked out and no one has fixed it. In addition she says she
has one of those "yucky serial numbers".  This is  combined with the general
tendency of the machine to stitch a straight stitch at a slant. 

>As I said, all griping aside, the 1630 is a fine machine and should produce
>an excellent stitch.  If you don't get satisfaction from your dealer, call
>Bernina directly in Illinois and complain.  
>Let us know how you make out -

In the final analysis Ray, I couldn't agree with you more.

Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 08:00:32 -0400
Subject: Group Demographics

Have been lurking and decided to contribute to survey.

Married white female, 43, part-time CPA, purchased 1260 six months ago and
love it.  Live in Upstate New York, have one 17 year old daughter.  

Have enjoyed reading messages posted.
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 08:40:29 EST
Subject: RE: Group Demographics...

Good Morning All!

As for Me...White, a college almost graduate (got married and went to work,
regretfully now), retired accountant-controller, homemaker, 59, owned by
5 spoiled rotten cats, own a Singer Athena 2000 (which is why I switched to
Bernina...I'll tell the whole story someday soon), Bernina 830 and a Ber-
nina 1130, Baby Lock 418


Isobel M. F
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 05:26:40 -0700
Subject: 'Nina Survey

Here's another one:

White, female, 47, married with two sons(ages 22 and 26), college 
graduate, registered nurse, have Bernina 1090(no serger--new golf clubs 
instead), make quilts, clothing, ballgowns.  Am always looking for 
another excuse to not clean and play with the 'Nina instead.

Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 09:51:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

     Shoot, I'll speak up!
     Female, 40, writer by trade, seamstress by inclination.
Office/computer\sewing room contains Bernina 1230, Hobbylock 788 (to replace
the old Bernette 234); Knockers the dress form and Swee'Pee the computer.
Clothing construction and tailoring the main preoccupation; collectible
teddy bears the next field of emphasis.  Currently too busy homeschooling a
17-year-old Rocket Scientist (who's never owned a blue blazer NOT tailored
by his mother) to spend more than the minimum at the sewing machine.
Physician husband also benefits from sewing skills; each trip to Europe
leads to one MORE special blazer with Jermyn Street buttons.
     Sorry, but I DON'T quilt.  Got it beaten out of me when my wee ones
were small.  Clothing construction is the passion.  Just finished my 17th
wedding gown--a PARTICULAR pleasure, as I introduced the couple!
     But I DO have to watch those fancy linings.  Every time I take Dr. DH's
jackets to the cleaners, they want to charge me EXTRA.  All dry cleaners
think that ANYTHING with a wild lining MUST belong to a woman--and they want
their extra Buck-Fifty . . .

Date: 24 Jun 95 10:03:20 EDT
Subject: Nina Survey

1630,(White Superlock 523),Mom of 3,use my 'nina for general sewing,quilting.
Julie G
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 10:19:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

Demographics:just turned 37(seems to be a lot of June B-Day's),
white, married, Registered Nurse, BSN, mother of one BUSY 3 y/o. Also 
live in  Sewing since 
childhood. Limped along on a horrible-horrible machine("Just LIKE a 
Necchi" they said) Bernina owner 3 years. LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!! I think it is 
a 1020.  I don't think my DH will approve another purchase soon, unless I 
win the lottery......Sure, ...Mainly quilting and crafts.
Avid reader of rec.crafts.textiles.quilting  Strong reccomendation to 
those of you that have a newsreader service.   Thanks. I ve really 
enjoyed reading the demo's. Wish they were a little more fleshed out tho...
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 13:43:06 -0400
Subject: Demographics

I'm a caucasian man, 33.  MS in agricultural sciences (I canned the Ph.D).
Married for 5 years (my wife positively HATES sewing, but I make up for it
:), happy father of an 8 month son.  I live in Central NY native of Québec,
Canada).  Consultant/Advisor/Instructor in the training program .

I sew mostly clothes, for my wife and I (all natural fibers).  I enjoy
improvised (sometimes crazy :)  projects like totes, upholstering, chair
covers,etc. I just recently discovered toy making.   Have made a few
comforters (my first was a queen size, double batting done on a

I first owned a 1090 (new) and traded it in for a used 1230 recently.  Both
wonderful machines. I also have a 334DS which I like just as much.  We also
have MIL's Featherweight and an old 1965 all metal 'portable'.

We take pride at being underpaid at  :).   

I enjoy the list (digest) very much and look forward to read about all
sewing applications.  BTW, has anyone else 'decorated' paper before on the
Sylvain B
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 08:39:16 -1000 (HST)
Subject: 1530 A Stitch

Well Gals, my long awaited 1530 has come home to roost.  Big 
disappointment.  Another delay.  It needs minor tension adjustment.  
>gasp< My ole Riccar gives me better stitches.  Since I ordered it from 
the mainland, I have to take it to the ONLY 'Nina support center in 
Honolulu, and I hope (1) the cost isn't too high and (2) they can fix it 
and I don't have that rare 'lemon'.

Just singin' the woes.  Pity me!  O.K. It's over.

Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 15:24:44 -0400
Subject: Demographics/Janome/Machine Question

WOW -- so many posts to the Nina list that AOL broke the digest into two
parts!  I'm impressed! I'm also delighted to hear a little bit abouty our
group. Also glad I get digest because my other two lists are super chatty at
the mo' too!

As someone who was part of the Janome discussion, I think it was really just
a "side bar" discussion as a comparison to what we all love, namely our
berninas.  It never hurts to know what the competition is up to right?  Also,
I would never have known anything about them except for my run in with the
proto-typical evil dealer! :-)

OK Now for a bernina question!  I got my spare bobbin case so I can proceed
with my mawchine quilting using sulky thread in the bobbin.  Once of the
reasons I was looking forward to shelving my white was its tension dial was
always getting knocked out of whack by the movement of big quilts etc.  

NOW, I have found myself suddenly zigzagging and other strange things because
of buttons getting whacked on the front of my 1260!  ACK!!  It suddenly
occurs to me that my WISH item for my dream sewing machine would be a feature
LOCK button on the SIDE of the machine.  Set everything up and lock it until
you need to change.

Anyone have suggestions as to how to keep my settings?  I must muscle those
full size quilts around too much!  I like to think of it as exercise!

Mary Beth
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 16:00:08 -0400
Subject: Demographics

White, male, 35, college degree, ex-banker, currently bum,  have
1630, 1130, 334DS, and mom's old Singer Class 15.
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 17:51:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Object of this group

I would like to apologize for what I said on Bernina group about being
postive about the Advanced workbook and getting back to quilting.  I realize
that this is a Bernina Club and not a quilting group.  I was just not
thinking when I wrote quilting instead of Bernina.  I really enjoy this club
on line because I am a new Bernina owner it it has helped me become more
familiar with my Bernina.  I had a Singer and wanting a bernina for many
years.  They had no guides and very liitle instruction with their machines.
 I have been thankful for what bernina has offered to their customers.  My
statement about quilting was in error.  Please forgive me.  Thank you.
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 19:16:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Demographics

Another 40ish white,female,college grad to add to the list. I don't work
outside the home (thanks to my wonderful husband) so have lots of time to
spend quilting on my Bernina 1230. I LOVE this machine - always say I was
constantly swearing at my 20 year old Kenmore machine, but I NEVER do at my
Bernina. I'm a machine fanatic (can't resist buying another especially if
it's a good price). I own: my old Kenmore, two Singer 301's, a Featherweight
(bought at a yard sale for $20),a Singer Genie (from the 70's), a White
treadle, and a White serger. Love this fan club. By the way, I am married
with two children (24 and 12). Sue M.
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 20:00:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

	White, female, single, 32, Bernina 1090, College degree (BS in
computers) AND I have a SO (male!) who uses my Bernina! (For sewing! as 
opposed to boat anchor, paper weight, etc) (White, male, single, 34).
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 20:29:43 -0400
Subject: Re: decorating paper

I have used my 801 to stitch on paper quite a bit. It works very well and
looks fabulous. It's wonderful on handmade paper with lots of metallics and
fancy stitches. I have attached photographs to cardstock with the sewing
machine and people are thrilled with the look. Just be sure to give yourself
a long enough stitch so the paper doesn't end up perforated and easily torn.
On another subject using paper, I use an unthreaded needle to perforate my
foundation piecing paper in stacks of 8 or so. Makes it much easier to
position the fabric properly from the other side and makes removal easier on
the stitches.
Subject: Re: Group Demographics
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 20:48:46 -0400 (EDT)

43 yr old, white, some college but looking into going back soon, own a
Bernina 1000 (which as I undrstand it almost isn't a Bernina), married,
one son (22 - getting married in two months...he's *so* young!)
Paralegal/office manager but beginning to hate my job.  Waiting to win
the lottery so I can stay home and play.  live in Columbia, SC 

Corky L
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 21:04:04 -0400
Subject: Re: demographics

Hi everyone!! 

Couldn't resist replying, also!  I'm white, female, 39 years old - wife of
one, mother of two daughters aged 12 and 14.  Graduated with an Associates
and worked as a Court and Conference Reporter, among many other jobs - even a
school bus driver!  Now work for a Bernina Dealer and get to play with all
those beautiful machines all the time!  I own a 1630, 2000DE, Viking #1Plus,
#900Viking serger, Singer serger (daughter won in a contest), portable
Kenmore, and four old Singers.  May be adding a Bernina 730 to the list for
the girls!  I teach 4-H sewing and use all the old machines.  I teach Bernina
Club, Bernina Serger Club and 1630 Club, among my other classes, at the store
- - - and LOVE every minute of it!!  Would love a copy of all the stats!

Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 13:24:48 +0800
Subject: I Brake for Bernina's

I'm a soon to be 39 y.o. white female living in .. right now with my
DH who is responsible for me being on the "net". Now I'm addicted, and spend
my time on my 1630 or the computer or both.  Learning how to drive the
designer software. My DH is a whiz.  I have owned the 1630 for 1 year and
think it was made in heaven. I'm still head over heels with it.  We have
made 4 Quilts, play clothes, and men's shirts. (out of the most beautiful
batik fabric in the world!) Before "Bernie" I used a 1950's model Alder
since I was 13.  After marriage I have acquired a BabyLock Serger, and just
for collector's sake, a Shanghai made "butterfly" machine, a Chinese "copy"
of the treadle Singer/White machines.  Brand new, complete with pine cabinet
for $90.00 US.  I couldn't resist.  Purchased on a recent trip to Macau. 
College degree in Biological Sciences, Former Medical Sales Rep.,
Transported to Asia, three years ago, and given the luxury of not working.
Sewing is truly my passion and my therapy.  I love making quilts, my
husband's shirts (can you believe it in Hong Kong!), clothes for my nieces,
and beautiful labels for all.  I have organized American style Quilting
"Bees" with my English quilting friends.  We meet twice a month to stitch
and encourage.   Hope I didn't talk too long, I'm new to the net and I love
reading all everyone has to say, but it's keeping me from my sewing, it's so
bye for now.

I Brake for Bernina's
or should I say Berniner's like the ...  Any word
ending with "a" automatically gets the sound "er".  China, goes to Chiner,
Bernina goes to Berniner!  Living here is such an experience of many cultures.

If you want NO for an answer just ask!
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 21:32:29 +1000 (EST)


female, age 55

I have lived in .. for 18 years but I was born in 
Cleveland, Ohio and lived in Chicago, Kalamazoo and New Haven, CT.

Advanced degree

Retired university lecturer (architectural history)

Married with two married children

Have had my Bernina 1090 for a year, after using an Elna Super for 27 
years. The Elna is still in excellent condition so I sent it to my 
daughter in Canada to use until she decides what continent she is going to
live in, at which time we will get her the Bernina of her choice.

I use my Bernina for quilting and occasional mending. I used the Elna 
for making clothes, curtains, toys, costumes, dolls, bedspreads, seat 
covers, and mending, but since I have retired I don't bother with anything
but quilting.

Diane R
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 08:08:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

Am I the only one who is offended by the race thing ... what has the color of
your skin have to do with sewing, or who you are, or your being??????????????
What am I missing? I have enjoyed the posting but get annoyed every time I
read white . Who cares? Just had to say this. Pat
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 09:00:13 -0400
Subject: 1630 Stitch Quality



I'm afraid that as New Yorkers, we don't get to enjoy many of the urban myths

Actually the opinions to which I was referring (with respect to whether or
not there's a significant difference in stitch quality between rotary and
oscillating systems) were drawn from a number of threads in another sewing
forum where there are actually three or four mechanics who are active
participants.  I think they once joked about how their collective experience
totalled some seventy-five years.

Anyway, it seemed pretty much their consensus that there was very little
difference in the stitch quality attainable with either rotary or oscillating

So what is the difference between the 1630 and previous models?  It really
has much more to do with the 9mm stitch width, and how the machine design is
affected by it.

One item that is definitely affected is automatic tension.  On an oscillating
hook (according to my dealer) the point at which the top thread is released
can be much more precisely timed.  This precise timing allowed the Bernina
engineers to calculate required tension with a given fabric thickness (which
is determined by the height of the presser foot as it moves over the fabric).
 (That's clear, right?)

Apparently, they can't make an oscillating hook machine with a stitch width
of much more than 5mm.  So, on the 1630 9mm rotary hook, automatic tension is
a little bit trickier.  Bernina purported that tension would require no
adjustment 90-95% of the time.  When my dealer sold me my machine, he told me
it was probably more along the lines of 80%.

The first time I sewed a rolled denim hem with 3-cord thread on my 1630, I
had loop city, and had to tighten my tension to 8 before I had a balanced
stitch again.  I've since learned that variances in fabric weight, thread
weight, needle size, etc., can require adjustment.  It's usually on extremes,
like the denim, but also for some of the wide decorative stitches, or for
free-motion work.

That might seem like anathema to those of us who remember the Bernina demos
where the dealer started sewing on a piece of upholstery vinyl and continued
right on to charmeuse, without adjusting the tension.  Also, most of us have
this ingrained fear of touching the tension knob.  I've even heard of home-ec
classes where there were signs posted over the machines "DO NOT ADJUST

So why all the confusion?  Part of the blame is Bernina's own advertising --
they've told us for years that their patented hook system was the best.  Then
they changed it, and never explained the changes in any of their advertising
campaigns or press releases.  (In fact, it seems they haven't even
established a consistent party-line among their dealers.)  Even their manuals
don't indicate how different situations might require extreme tension

A perfect stitch is easily achieved with the 1630, but it does require more
adjustment across a variety of situations.  In the balance, are the
decorative possibilities afforded by the 9mm stitch width and
multi-directional feed.  Granted, most of us get a little carried away when
we see the fancy stuff, only to wonder why we spent all that money to shorten
jeans.  I just figure it keeps us young .

Hope I didn't put you all asleep -


P.S.  I'll still be glad to make 1130/1630 stitch samples for those that want
to take the Bernina challenge!
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 10:43:59 -0400
Subject: Hook mechanisms

worth debating which is better - oscillating or rotary.<<

In response to this, I would have to say that most mechanics don't 
sew. I still prefer the 1530 stitch to that of the 1630.

Mary M
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 10:40:57 -0400
Subject: Use of term 'nina

Am I the only one who considers calling a Bernina a 'nina to be super cute
and annoying? I am truly not trying to offend anyone by saying this. I find
that calling a computer a 'puter  equally annoying, as I guess I am just
oversensitive to overcute.

Mary M
Subject: Re: Group Demographics 
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 95 13:20:08 -0400

>Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 08:08:45 -0400
>Subject: Re: Group Demographics

>Am I the only one who is offended by the race thing ... what has the color of
>your skin have to do with sewing, or who you are, or your being??????????????
>What am I missing? I have enjoyed the posting but get annoyed every time I
>read white . Who cares? Just had to say this. Pat

I absolutely agree - the color of one's skin has nothing to do with
sewing!  Neither does gender or age or career.  The idea was to take a
friendly survey to find out who we are and to be able to compare
ourselves with the 'net and the general population at large.  It does
seem that we are overwhelmingly female and white, which is a shame,
since one of the best ways to get our society to look past the surface
characteristics that still divide so many of us from each other is to
find common bonds (like sewing) that we share in our diversity.

Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 15:10:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

The bond does not work,if you find it neccessary to group yourself as
WHITE.....If it does't matter why mention it? On the computer we can't see
Pat R
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 10:17:50 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Group Demos

Awww ladies!  It's been most interesting to read the group demographics, and
I'm proud to know "white, female, degreed..."  I'm also happy to read
there are men among us who like to do the same thing.  Have we have
forgotten that we are Bernina owners on the Internet?  Hmmmm.  One needs 
a computer, a modem and a server to connect to the internet.  And if one 
meets all the requisites, one needs to know how to access the various 
interest groups which is largely word-of-mouth.  Remember when you first 
faced a computer?  Intimidated and awed!

Taken in this context...there are rare occasions for one to announce hard
earned claims such as being "white, female, degreed..." AND accessing the
internet.  So why not?  We have to stand tall in our accomplishments, and
so far I've read, these claims are humbly announced.  Not meaning to anger
anyone, the group demographics also identifies those who have access to
today's technology which is understandably white, male/female, etc.

In our private lives, we have close friends who sew, don't operate
computers, no degree, not white, do not have a Bernina, etc.  My friends
don't object to my differences and we enjoy each other's talents.  In
color, we are mixtures of the rainbow.  Some are degreed; others aren't. 
We're just a bunch of ole ladies who have earned this time to enjoy our
crafts, and it's really interesting to share past occupations and 

Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 17:11:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/24/95

I just spent 15 min. trying to get my walking foot onto my 1630, I finally
had to take the needle out to get it on.  Is there a trick to this, This is
the new walking foot for the 1630.  

Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 17:22:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Demographics

I am 47, own a Bernina 830, have been sewing for 23 years.  I have a 
small sewing business specializing mainly in alterations, restorations: 
new coat linings, broken zippers, hems, etc.  I live in Vermont.  I also 
crochet, learning to knit, make bobbin lace and tat.  Do a lot of crafts 
that require use of sewing machine.  Disgusted with lack of quality 
fabrics due to less demand for sewing supplies and materials.  Still love my 
Bernina 830 as it has never been a problem.  Still sews beautifully.  
Learning to machine quilt.

Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 17:50:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: demographics


I forgot to add that I am female, African American/Native American, am a 
secretary  and was just accepted to a 
doctoral program in Higher Education Administration and Leadership.  I 
have a masters degree in higher ed administration and paralegal training.
I am also an oral historian and make documentaries on people who live in 
rural areas.  I am also a grandmother.

Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 18:09:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

About the race demographic.  Because I am African American/Native 
American, when I first saw the demographics with race mentioned, I 
refused to respond to the questionnaire, but after reading more of the 
responses, I decided to answer and include my race.  I just wanted to 
people to know that people of color make lace, that we have full lives.  
I also agree with those who ask: "What does race have to do with making 
lace?"  They understand that we are all on this planet to survive and to 
help others do the same and have fun enjoying our lives to the fullest 
extent possible.  I have an email pal in England whose DH made up one of 
those lovely stationery type mailers.  Hers says "Lace the Ultimate Thread."

Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 20:29:20 -0400
Subject: Quilting vs Bernina etc.

We forgive you Jodi for typing the  word quilting instead of Bernina. It
certainly brought forth a lot of interesting comments. It seems that there
are a lot of quilters out there as indicated in the demographic responses.

I would like to clear up a little confusion about the Bernina hook
mechanisms. A rotary hook turns completely around while an oscillating hook
only turns part way. It's easy to tell what you have in your machine, just
turn the handwheel and watch the hook move. Bernina industrial machines
always used ROTARY hooks and the household machines used OSCILLATING hooks
until recently. Currently the only Bernina household machines to use rotary
hooks are 1000, 1001, and 1630. Most sewing machines use rotary hooks

As far as straight stitching is concerned, people have been complaining ever
since the 930 came out. The stitch was not as straight as the 830 and so on
down the line. Evidently one has to give up something in order to enjoy the
new features. A wider and wider zigzag stitch capability leads to more and
more needle deflection meaning that the needle can be moved from its straight
path by the fabric as it is penetrated. Different fabrics and different
needles will react differently. A sharp needle will give a straighter stitch
than a ballpoint needle because it will pierce the fiber whereas the ball
point needle looks for the holes between the fibers. The most commonly used
needles today are called universal point. They are not as sharp as a sharp
needle and not as round as a ballpoint needle. They will allow more needle
deflection than the sharp needles that we used to use but are also suitable
for use on a wider array of fabrics including both knits and wovens. Such is
progress I guess.

Have a nice day - Francyne
Date:           Sun, 25 Jun 95 19:23 EDT
Subject:        Re: Machine Question

> NOW, I have found myself suddenly zigzagging and other strange things because
> of buttons getting whacked on the front of my 1260!  ACK!!  It suddenly
> occurs to me that my WISH item for my dream sewing machine would be a feature
> LOCK button on the SIDE of the machine.  Set everything up and lock it until
> you need to change.

What immediately comes to mind is one of those clear plastic keyboard
covers that comes with new pc keyboards, cut to size and taped over
the controls while you are machine quilting.

Otherwise, maybe a styrofoam meat container or clear plastic cover like is
used at Mickey D's to cover their salad and tape it over the controls.

Subject: Re: Group Demographics 
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 95 21:00:30 -0400

I'm so glad you decided to respond, for just the reasons you gave.

Do you ever come down to Boston for supplies shopping?  I agree it is
hard to find good quality materials.  There's a fabric store in a
neighboring town (Fabric Corner in Arlington, Mass.) that has a small
but wonderful selection.  No cheesy low-thread count, blurred cotton
prints there!  Instead there are true batiks, lovely Japanese prints,
and even a good choice of Liberty cotton lawn.  The winter selection
of woolens is always heavenly and this spring there was a nice choice
of linens - a new feature.

The first time I shopped there I was just fondling the bolts.  The
owner saw this and ever since has been taking me into the back room to
check out the bolts that have not made it out onto the shelves yet,
telling me about his plans, etc.  He really cares about his business
and people who care about fabric.  The prices are about 10% higher
than the local discount chain (Fabric Place, which has some good stuff
but also its share of junk), but I prefer to buy at Fabric Corner - I
want it to stay in business!

Debbie D
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 95 18:04:05 PDT
Subject: Demographics (from Jill)

I'm a female, white, 48, northern CA, BFA, some grad school
(changed midstream to get certified in Art K-12 just in time
for the budget cuts in the Arts!).  I am a part time office
Manager, dressmaker, and sewing instructor.  We own our 
original 830 Bernina (17 yrs old), a 1630 almost two years
old, which we love, a 334D serger, and a heavy duty Thompson
Mini-Walker walking foot machine.

I am the mother of three teen agers, son 19, daughter 18, 
son 16, all of whom sew, and all are home educated.  I have
been married 20 years to a sewing supportive husband who 
found this wonderful news group for me in May of this year.
The day before the first "Demographic" question appeared, I was
thinking of asking the same thing!  I was floored when I read it
in the newsgroup.  I think this is a wonderful group!

The quilting question about diagonal machine quilting with the 
walking foot was an excellent example of the type of focused,
specific-to-Berninas type of question.  I adore clothing 
construction and could apply that type of info to my clothing
projects as well.

Date:           Sun, 25 Jun 95 20:01 EDT
Subject:        Re: Group Demographics

> Am I the only one who is offended by the race thing ... what has the color of
> your skin have to do with sewing, or who you are, or your being??????????????

What is much more interesting to me is ethnic background.  I think cultural
diversity is wonderful and am always interested in learning new ideas and new
ways of looking at the world (or in this case, looking at creativity).

Subject: My Hands To Thee?

Hi everyone,
I have been lurking on this list for a few months.  I am a 1630 owner (I
upgraded from
a 1230 about six months ago!) The verdict is still out about which machine I
I use my 1630 almost exclusively for quilting (and a few token ties for my
husband, whose account I am using now!) The real reson for this post is to
request information about a vendor that I met at the NY quilt Show.  The
business was called "My hands to 

Thee".  I misplaced her card, and now I am trying to locate a piece of 

fabric that she was selling.  Does anyone have a phone number or address for 

this business?  Please E-mail me directly with any information.	
Kathleen (in search of the elusive fabric!) 
"Any opinions expressed in this note are solely those of the author."
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 23:49:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Machine Quilting

Tresea, Don't summarily dismiss learning from books.  There are several on
the market especially for beginning quilters.  One of the best I can
recommend is Quilts, Quilts, Quilts, it should answer quite a few of your
questions.  Also, I can't stress strongly enough: find a quilt guild in your
area and join.  You will learn more in a group than ever alone.  Most quilt
groups are loaded with experienced quilters who like nothing better than
helping someone become as quilt-crazy as themselves.  Also, most guilds have
classes for all levels of quilters, from beginner to expert (and remember, no
one ever is too "expert" not to learn something new).  I belong to Clark
County Quilters in Vancouver, Washington, which means driving 30 miles each
way to and from meetings just for the privilege of meeting with, learning
from and sometimes teaching to, fellow quilters.  

Good luck on your quest.

BTW, my son and daughter-in-law live in Newport News.  It's a beautiful area,

Nancy L
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 00:05:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Demographics
I am so sorry, I was caught up in the flow. Didn't cross my mind for a 
second that I might offend someone.  To tell you the truth, I felt a 
little left out by having only one machine....funny what bothers one 
doesn't even register with another.  Thanks for the late night eye-opener.
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 23:45:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Nina Survey

Re reader demographics:  I'm a true mutt, lots of ethnic groups in ancestry,
mostly European; 51 years old; legal secretary, business law; married, sons
grown, married, one on Atlantic coast, other on Pacific coast (was it
something I said?)  Own Bernina 1230 (which is the finest machine I've ever
owned),  2000DE serger and Wilcox &Gibbs chain-stitch machine (1885 model,
purchased from daughter of original owner).  Am an active quilter, and  this
is my third year as secretary to a growing quilt guild.  I used to make 85% 
of my own clothes, now only occasionally make
something, blouses mostly; too much time tied up in quilting and gardening.
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 07:39:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Tension Knob

Ceci -

Congratulations on your new machine!

>On the 1530, there is a "Pretension Stud" located above and directly
>in line
>with the presser foot.  It is not mentioned in the Index even though
>is identified in the "Details of the Machine" page.  Am I correct in 
>assuming that "Bernie" will automatically adjust according to fabric 
>thickness or is that what the "Pretension Stud" is all about, but the
>manufacturer doesn't want that to be moved?  Is this what you're

I was actually referring to the top thread tension control.

The "pretension stud" actually holds the tension disks for bobbin winding so
that your bobbin winds nice and neatly.  

A lot of machines have a presser foot pressure control in this very place,
but as far as I know, there's no way for the user to adjust the presser foot
pressure on the Bernina.

By the way, I'm really not an expert (on anything!).  I just find the
machines almost as much fun as the sewing itself.  I kind of miss my old 830
because you could just open the hinged top and see all the gears, levers, and
cams, and how they work.  They've long since done away with that top hatch,
which is just as well because watching a circuit board wouldn't be very
interesting .


Subject: 'Nina survey
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:51:13 EDT

White, female, 44, Arlington, Mass, USA.  Mixed bag of education: BS in
metallurgy, MS in metallurgy, MS in electrical engineering, dropped out
of PhD program in electrical engineering (advisor &I couldn't agree on
thesis topic - after dropping out to choose another advisor, I never
went back. I LIKED having a life again).  Have a 1530, my first Bernina
and I love it.  Primarily was looking for a portable machine since my
'73 Morse was a cabinet model.  I LOVE the needle stop down position - 
I didn't realize how much until I went home &sewed on Mom's 930. 
Having to constantly tap the pedal to make a smooth satin stitch curve
was a nuisance.  I would have gone crazy if I had ever tried to do that
on my old machine. (of course I never tried).

On the subject of dealers.  For those near Bay City Michigan, my Mom's
dealer, Marjorie's, in Essexville, is a great dealer.  Too bad I'm in
Massachusetts.  Here is my visitor's view point (I only have my Mom's
word on her "resident" service &Mom was one of her first customers):

1) I bought a walking foot in Nov '93 from her for $55, my local dealer
   wanted $75 (same dealer as Debbie Deutsch)
2) Sister's husband wanted to buy her a serger for their 10th anniversary
   (great husband!) and was willing to go top of the line.  After spending
   3+ hours showing Alice how to run a serger and letting her sew some
   kid clothes she had brought along, the choice was betwen the 334D and
   the 2000D (there might have been an E on the end, but I don't remember).
   M recommended the 334D, said that was probably all she would need and
   her husband, the repair man, thought the 2000D was more finicky and
   would need more maintance.  They chose the 2000D, however, since Joe
   thought the auto tensioning was a nice feature.  I think spending that
   time (granted, the store was not busy), allowing her to sew some of
   her own things, and then recommending the less expensive model was
   a class act.
2) This past Feb, my 1530 got stuck in the basting stitch (the one where
   it skips every other stitch).  When I took it in, I was told this is
   a common problem, so watch out for it!  I took it in for fixing and
   didn't get it back for 3 wks! because of shows and demos and what not.
   I wasn't even offerred a replacement until near the end and then it
   was a 1080 machine.  Since I was decorating some crazy quilt vests at the time,
   I wanted my full embroidery potential, so I didn't take it.  I
   couldn't get a top end loaner.  And I had to pay for it even tho I just had
   the machine cleaned 4 mo previously. I thought that since it was a
   common problem, they should have checked it during the cleanning, and
   if they had, 4 mo was too short a time for it to happen again!
   Enough ranting...  When visiting my Mom this spring, I mentioned
   the problem to Pinky (Marjorie's husband) and he said it was common
   problem due to a small pin sticking.  The problem could be averted
   by using the basting stitch on a regular basis - once a month or so
   so the oil doesn't get sticky.  So keep that in mind.

My that got long.  I better go back to work (data analyst, signal

Mary Lou F
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:05 CST
Subject: Demographics

     I am a white female, 51 yrs old, have Bernina 1090.  
     Love to sew wearable arts and quilts.  Live in 
     Midwest, work with computers.
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 09:22:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

white, female, employed fulltime as a nurse, live in North Dakota, own a 
1080, married, one married child.
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:25:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/22/95


I am white female, 34 years old, BS, MBA, own 1090 and 2000DE.  I have
been living with my partner Bob for the past six years.  We have just
reinforced our commitment by purchasing an arm chair.  Sewing is one of my
favorite past times or rather an avenue to achieve that fabulous Armani
look.  Truly, my sewing skills and my imagination fall short of my
expectations; however, from far away and without glasses some of my suits
can pass for couture.  The trick is to buy very expensive fabric.  I
always wonder about my savings account: it is just not growing.  My other
hobby is millinery.  I adore hats and recently have let my hair grow so I
can wear these dozens of hats I made.  Sorry for sounding a little vain. 
I recognize it as one of my shortcomings and I actually nurture it 

I would like to add a few words about the issue of mentioning race on our 

We cannot talk about demographics without mentioning the race.  I am very 
happy to find out that African-American people can participate in this 
forum.  How can we talk about diversity if we don't know who comprises 
our group.

I am originally from Leningrad or rather St. Petersburg, Russia, where I 
owned an old Zinger with a hand wheel.  I made some great stuff on that 
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:20:56 -0600
Subject: nina survey

Julia R
49 years old
education: college + 4 years professional school + 4 years residency
Emergency pediatrician
Berninas: 1630, and serger (2000 D, I think)
other machine: 1937 Singer Featherweight
Family: 2 children out of the house and in college! Hurray.
I use my Berninas for 1. quilting, 2. sewing clothing, 3. rarely for home
decor - how many pillows can you make anyway.  But I primarily use them for
right brain creative therapy.
And I can't help excitedly bragging, I just was awarded both the best of
category and viewers' choice ribbons for my challenge fabric quilted
wallhanging at the Minnesota Quilters show. I have never entered anything
before!  Although it was mainly a hand applique piece, I know the Bernina
machine quilting made the piece!
A second exciting part of the show was helping a friend buy a 1530. We spent a
lot of motel time trying every stitch! I think the 1530 may make better
bicycles than my 1630 but it wasn't a well controlled study.
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:05:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RE: Demographics

OK, here goes - better late than never. I'm 68, white,female, recently
widowed and recently retired from my job as catalog librarian at Univ. of
Mass. I live in Deerfield, Mass. i own a Viking 6440 (vintage l973 or so)
and splurged on a Bernina l630 in November before I heard of this group. I
bought it because of the good reputation or older Berninas, but I wish I had
gotten a Pfaff instead. However, I'm liking the 1630 more than I did at 
and so far no trouble with stitch quality. I hate the bobbin winding 
mechanism and almost sprain my wrist loading the shuttle into the 
machine. I also bought a Bernette 634 DS serger a month ago. Dealer said
it will be discontinued and gave me a good price on it ($999.00). Its easy
to thread and does great stitching, but no cover stitch.
     I sew mostly clothes, plus some household linens. Am looking forward
to doing more fancy stuff for gifts and such. My son (age 25) pretty well
wrecked the Viking doing freehand machine embroidery the wrong way (heavy
metal logos as patches for self and friends!) . However, it still runs 
and has lots of great stitches that the 1630 doesn't have. 
    I love this group and will soon post a problem, if my local dealer 
doesn't solve it tomorrow. 
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too
dark to read."-- Groucho Marx
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 18:41:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Quilting vs Bernina, etc.


You've got it reversed. I can't remember if the 1000 is Ocillating, but I
know both the 1001 and 1630 are.

>until recently. Currently the only Bernina household machines to use rotary
>hooks are 1000, 1001, and 1630. Most sewing machines use rotary hooks

Your tip on needles was great.  May I add one.

Bring your own material to the store when checking out the stiching of a
machine. A straight stitch always looks better on heavier fabric e.g. denim.,
so bring scaps of all the light fabrics and stretchies you've used.

Don't just use the samples provided to you.

Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 18:41:36 -0400
Subject: Re: 1630 Stitch Quality



You take things so personally Ray.  I too live in a major metropolis.  The
phrase urban myth refers to a idea or belief held by people but not based in
reality.  It does not mean that this was a personal insult to you, because
you live in New York.

>I'm afraid that as New Yorkers, we don't get to enjoy many of the urban myths

>perception, the urban legend, that the mechanic will tell you the truth at a
>sewing centre.  The mechanic is hired by the person who owns the store.
>Usually if he is dealing with customers he is told to never say anything
>negative, about any line, to any customer and  if inventory is high, push
>brand X.  Often the mechanic also gets a piece of the commission on a
>machine sale.>>

I would be very interested in hearing what your sources are for your
information. I'm afraid once upon a newgroup I read........ doesn't change
my mind.  
>Actually the opinions to which I was referring (with respect to whether or
>not there's a significant difference in stitch quality between rotary and
>oscillating systems) were drawn from a number of threads in another sewing
>forum where there are actually three or four mechanics who are active
>participants.  I think they once joked about how their collective experience
>totalled some seventy-five years.
>Anyway, it seemed pretty much their consensus that there was very little
>difference in the stitch quality attainable with either rotary or oscillating

I suggest anyone who is considering buying a 1630 simply take samples to the
store and run off a sampling of a straight stitch on a 1530 and a 1630.  If
you are happy with it. Buy it.  If not.... tell Bernina to do better.

Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:51:18 -0400
Subject: Re:Demographics

College graduate (Master's of Accountancy), system analyst/developer 
of business/accounting systems, mother of 5 children (ages from 23 to 2),
age 42, sewed for 25 years, owner of Bernina 830 and Bernina 1630 
and a Bernina serger (do hand embroidery and will stay with it) -- 
quilting main hobby and main reason bought the 1630 --
for the 16 directional sewing.  

Suzanne P
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 16:55:42 PDT

28 yr old female, B.A. Economics, Contracts Analyst,
Bernina 1260, Bernette 335DS (I don't hear from many others
online with this model yet, the 334DS seems more popular).
Just bought the serger and am obsessed with it.    I'm
currently taking fashion design courses at a local community
college to improve my skills. 
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:33:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Thanks, Harriet

H i Sarita -
The adjustment that we make - to ALL Bernina feet is to cut open the toes so
that we can see where we are going, and modify the underside so that the foot
does not hang up on the lumpy seams when the foot tries to go over them. It
has worked excellently on all the feet we have done.
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:30:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/14/95

Hi Lynn -
Diagonal lines are the trickiest of all, but certainly obtainable. The main
things to watch for is excellent layering and a lot of pins. Then really feed
the fabric carefully through the walking foot - like discussed in the
Heirloom book - pushing a bit of the quilt top up to the walking foot instead
of "sewing" the quilt lines. I have done a lot of diagonal line with very
little trouble, but I took extra care - and lots of extra pins - in the
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 21:26:48 -0400
Subject: NINA SURVEY---Bernina Users Demographics

Faye T, Female, 42, White, New Hampshire (USA), Secretarial Science Degree, Currently 
employed at a middle school as the Special Education Secretary, Owner of 1 
Bernina 1120 for 7 years that I received from my husband as a Christmas gift 
(WOW was I ever surprised), only other sewing machine I owned was a Singer 
Golden Touch &Sew that I received as a graduation present, family --- 
married 20 years, mom to a 15 year old son and 11 year old daughter, I use 
my 'nina for recreational sewing, making flags to hang outside my house, and 
the majority of my sewing is piecing and quilting 95% of my quilting 
Will look forward to seeing the summaries of everyone. 
          Enjoying summer in New England, Faye 
Date:         Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:49:59 EDT
Subject:      Re: Group Demographics

White, Female, 62, wife, mother, grandmother (7 times).  Own l630, 2000DE,
25 years old Kenmore, and a Singer Featherweight 221.  I enjoy them all.
Just need more time to use them.
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:54:53 MDT
Subject: more demographics

Although everyone's probably sick of it, here's one more.
Female, 40 (another arghh!!), B.S., M.S., Ph.D. not finished due 
to usual excuse (pregnancy), but much happier with a kid than 
another degree.  Teach college level geology and have a 1530 and
a 007D serger.  I enjoy sewing both quilts and clothes, and have
just joined the wearable arts list for inspiration.

I would also like to add my 2 cents worth to Nancy's comment about
joining a sewing group or quilt guild.  After being away from sewing 
for 15 years, I decided to make a quilt.  As a result, I have gotten
involved with a wonderful quilt group of extremely talented, and very
helpful people.  They are a source of great information, encouragement,
and inspiration--  the Paso del Norte Quilt Guild.  Although none of
them are into the internet (yet), I try to pass on all the helpful 
info I obtain from this list.

Hope the baby and you are doing fine, Karen!!

Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 03:45:55 -0400
Subject: Demographics etc.

Kinda behind on my mail due to company, but heres mine:

Live in Southern California. White female, 44, married. Some college. 1
daughter and 1 7/8 grandchildren. Raise and show Abyssinian cats and work for
local public transit. Own a Bernina 1090, Bernette 335 serger, Pacesetter
7500 embroidery/sewing machine and last but not least a Bernina 740. Learning
machine quilting.

Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 06:48:46 -0400
Subject: Quilt basting

OK, I've only done one lap quilt so I'm far from an expert but, this worked
for me.
I sprayed the wrong sides of the top and backing with pattern stay before I
made my sandwich.  I then used my walking foot....dumb as I am I didn't know
that I was supposed to get a new walking foot with my 1630 so I used the old
one....and disolving thread in the needle and basted it.  I then machine
quilted it and washed it.
Works for me!
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 08:16:45 -0400
Subject: Francyne was right...

Francyne was right...  Oscillating means the shuttle races back and forth.
Rotary means it rotates full circle (counter clockwise btw).

the 1001 and 1630 are both rotary.  Anything rom 1006-1530 so far is
Sylvain B
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:59:26 -0400
Subject: Hook Systems

Hi Gang,

I think I must have missed a few days worth of Digest, but today I noticed
that there was another posting about the oscillating &rotary hook systems.
 It seems that sometimes the two get confused. The 1000, 1001 and the 1630
are the only Berninas that are rotary.  The oscillating rocks back and forth,
the rotary does a full spin.  Unthread your machine, take the bobbin case
out, run your machine at a very slow speed, look in the bobbin case area and
you can see how it works.  (you could also look while it is threaded, just be
sure to put a piece of fabric in, and be sure to put the presser foot down).

Also, thought I'd let you guys know....had an adjustment made to my 1630 and
the stitch looks great now!  I've been happily sewing/quilting for the past
few days.  (Ray...thanks for your support)

Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:35:17 -0400
Subject: 1630 Humour

In a message dated 95-06-26 21:49:14 EDT, you write:

>You take things so personally Ray.  I too live in a major metropolis.
>phrase urban myth refers to a idea or belief held by people but not
>based in
>reality.  It does not mean that this was a personal insult to you,
>you live in New York.

Gee Caroline, when I said that New Yorkers don't enjoy many urban myths, that
was supposed to be a joke!  (I thought I had put in the necessary ).
 Anyway, you couldn't insult most New Yorkers with anything less than a brick
through the window.  (JOKE)

I really didn't mean to soap box, but there has been so much said about the
1630's that isn't very clear or even true.  Furthermore, because the 1630 is
such a major departure from previous designs, many users have problems that
they haven't previously experienced.  In some cases it's as simple as using a
stabilizer on a 9mm stitch.  Other times it might be to throw it through your
dealer's window. 

However, because everybody is always hammering about how the stitch quality
is a problem with the 1630, the tendency is to feel that they've made a bad
purchase (and an expensive one at that!) rather than getting the support to
resolve the problem.  

I think there's a lot of collective experience here, and sometimes with a
little more information about a problem a useful suggestion might be had.  To
say that the problem is simply a question of the machine (which is a
subjective statement) isn't necessarily helpful.

I agree with you 100% -- the only way to choose a machine is to take your own
samples and test them yourself -- which is exactly what I did when I chose
the 1630.  I went in with everything from denim to lycra to china silk.  I
then went home and sewed on the pieces with my 1230.  I squinted and
strained, pulled and measured, and couldn't discern a difference in quality.

BTW, I'm quite familiar with Toronto -- grew up in Niagara, and while working
for CIBC, I spent nearly three years commuting between Toronto and New York
on a weekly basis - (up on Monday night, back on Thursday night!).  I've
probably stayed in just about every hotel in the city, but my favorite was
the old Windsor Hotel.  Such a pity it closed.  Toronto is a lovely city, and
I still have many friends there.  They'll enjoy hearing about your defence of
the city.

Happy Dominion Day (right, it's Canada Day now)!


Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:44:57 -0400
Subject: Which Machines are Oscillating which Rotary ? ..

OnDate: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 08:16:45 -0400
(Sylvain) wrote

>Subject: Francyne was right...
>Francyne was right...  Oscillating means the shuttle races back and forth.
>Rotary means it rotates full circle (counter clockwise btw).
Yes this is correct.  Her descriptions were well written.

However  I had a good look in my machine (1230) and it indeed has a rotary
hook.  I then thought maybe I'm loosing it here, so I called the sewing
centre.  They  verified that the 1001 and 1630 have  oscillating hooks.  All
the other models in between have rotary hooks.  Your manual may have the
information re your model in it.  If not and you still doubt please call
your dealer to confirm the above.

Sylvain  wrote::
>the 1001 and 1630 are both rotary.  Anything rom 1006-1530 so far is
Caroline wrote:

>>You've got it reversed. I can't remember if the 1000 is Ocillating, but I
>>know both the 1001 and 1630 are.

Francyne wrote:
>>until recently. Currently the only Bernina household machines to use rotary
>>hooks are 1000, 1001, and 1630. Most sewing machines use rotary hooks
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 09:06:19 MDT
Subject: Demographics

Interesting results so far! - I'm 47 year old white female (Canadian); own
1130 Bernina, an old Kenmore and have just put a 334DS on layaway.  Sewed my
own clothes 20 plus years ago and then about 7 years ago bought my 1130 (a
quit smoking gift) - have done lots of crafty things and a few quilts and
just recently decided I wanted to sew clothes again but wanted to learn all
the proper techniques so I'm taking a pattern drafting class and am learning
all the couture finishing techniques - is great!
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:49:55 -0400
Subject: Cover stitch?

OK, guys, tell me, what is a cover stitch? Maybe it is another name for
something I already have or know how to do. I have a 2000DE serger, so those
of you who have the same and know what a cover stitch is, let me know if I
have one.  Thanks.

Mary M
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:31:14 -0500
Subject: New Bernina Owner

Just wanted to thank everyone who helped me decide to buy a Bernina.  I
bought the 1530.

Never thought I would pay so much for a sewing machine, but all the
wonderful comments on this group helped me decide to take the plunge.

  I have only had time to try a few stitches but I am very pleased.  I have
been looking for a machine that would do NICE applique and allow me to use
different feet to make sewing easier and better and I have found it!!!

I can't wait to do some sewing.

Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:56:30 +0059 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Group Demographics
On Thu, 22 Jun 1995, Bernina wrote:

Me....37, white, single, gainfully employed in high tech, from the Boston 
area, and owner of a 1230 which runs like a charm on all accounts. 


Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:06:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: nina survey

Congratulations!!!  That is quite an accomplishment to win two positions.
I wish you a lot of luck in your next projects....and fun making them.
                     Jacqueline F
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:31:53 -0400
Subject: Re: More Demographics

How do we find the wearable arts list, please?
Date: 27 Jun 1995 11:34:52 -0700
Subject: Demographics
        Reply to:   Demographics

O.K., I'll join in.
I'm a 53 year old European American.  Eloped 2 weeks before finals of last
semester of college (economics major)--never quite made it back--had first son
9 months and 1 day after marriage and another 4 years later (both long gone
and successful computer programers).  I have a Bernina 1130 (which I bought
when youngest son said,"I just can't go back to college without a sewing
machine"--so gave him my 1964 Singer), a Featherweight and a White serger
(never used).   I make quilts--mostly wall hangings.  For my day job, I
coordinate mathematics inservice programs for K-12 teachers (and teach a
workshop on "Quilting Geometry").  I mostly buy fabric to alleviate stress in
my life and take workshops from "name" quilters.  (I highly recommend
Harriet's workshop.)  I also race sailboats (Lightnings) and collect hedgehog

Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:33:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

Hi y'all,
I have been the happy owner of an 801 for 13 years.  I have had absolutely no
problems with it but in the last couple of months or so (the time that I've
been on Bernina Fan Club) I began thinking about some features that I would
really like that my trusty 801 doesn't have.  Before I got my 801 I had a
Kenmore of which I was always having trouble with.  I thought that I was in
heaven when I got the 801.  When I first got it I did alot of clothes sewing,
for myself and my 2 little boys.  Now my boys are 13 and 16 and I don't sew
much for them any more or for myself for than matter.  My passion now is
quilting and in the last couple of years machine quilting.  Last week my
local Bernina dealer advertised a sale, just the invitation that I needed.  I
went in right away and checked them out.  I ended up getting a 1090 and so
far (after 4 days of sewing) I'm very happy with it.  I had considered the
1530 but decided that what I really wanted was the needle down feature, knee
lift and the half speed feature and all the extras on the 1530 were, for me,
not worth the extra money.  Once I decided to get a new Bernina I called
around to several stores that were close by and not so close by.  I was very
glad to discover that my local Bernina store had the best price.  I had
considered selling the 801 but decided to keep it in the family so to speak.
 I'm going to give it to my sister who has a Singer that she fights with.  

To get to the demographics:  I am 43 years old and have been sewing since I
was 13 years old.  I am married and have the above mentioned 2 boys.  I'm
very lucky that all the men in my family have an appreciation for all the
sewing and needlework things that I do. A year ago I "retired" and now I'm
very lucky to be able to stay at home, where I work very hard taking care of
my family, house and garden.  I had been working as a teachers assistant (so
that I could be home when my boys were home) but my heart was always at home
and where I never run out of things to do.  I joined the computer world last
September and I'm hooked on Bernina Fan Club and Quiltnet.  
I have 2 years of college and in a break that I took to figure out what I
really wanted to study I met and married my husband (we have been married 23
years).   Then I worked while he went to school (8 years).  If I ever get
tired of being home maybe I'll go back to school but for now I'm very happy
with my life.   

Candy B
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 07:18:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Cover Stitch?

To Mary M,
Thank you for asking the question about cover stitch. I thought I was the
only one without a clue what a cover stitch is! :-)

Subject: demographics
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:28:59 -0400 (EDT)

Hello!  Hope it's not too late to submit another one:

Female, 43 next week, married 14 years next month, no kids, 3 dogs,
live in northern Atlanta suburb, 1230 demo purchased last December, 
old Kenmore, Featherweight.  Learning to sew my own clothing and things
for the house; enjoy quilting (machine piecing).  Did my first machine 
applique last night.  Really enjoy this list and am learning a lot!

Barbara D.
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:47:34 -0400
Subject: Foot #55

I have just purshased foot no. 55--the leather foot that Kenneth King used on
the TV show.  With it came a small hook like extra piece, can anyone tell me
what it is for, and how do I use it--where does it go.  Thanks--Linda
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 09:02:22 -0400
Subject: Group Demographics

Black female, 52, computer specialist in Physics laboratory. Own a 1630 and
inherited my grandmother's Singer Featherweight. Do quilt design in a
macintosh computer environment using Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop and
Deneba Canvas with color scanner and  Tek PSIII color printer.

Quilt for relaxation. Am fascinated with color and form.  Would like to
produce contemporary quilts but am currently learning technique only.

Am interested in learning about the possibilities of the 1630. Do not
expect it to be a miracle machine. Enjoy its capabilities.

Misplaced assumption: because the 1630 is computer driven and because I am
quite computer literate that somehow the 1630 and I would produce straight
stiched lines with little effort. Alas my naive expaectations continue to
be dashed as I struggle to get straight lines.

Major wish: More Macintosh software in the quilting world per se and
specifically on my Bernina.

Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 10:00:59 -0400
Subject: Rotary vs. Oscillating

Hi Caroline,

I just read my Bernina Digest.  It was a little confusing (who said what) in
one of the postings but it looked to me that you said your dealer told you
that your 1230 has a rotary hook.  This is *not* would make you a
truly unique  1230 owner, indeed.  If this is what your dealer told you, be
careful cause they may be offering you a good buy on swamp land next.  :-)
  Ooops, not sure where you live, the swamp land thing is a common expression
in my area.

Also, I don't know about the machine manual, but sometimes you will hear the
term "CB" hook system.  This stands for Central Bobbin Oscillating Hook. This
provides greater potential for stitch precision because the hook stops to
change directions so the thread passes with no resistance. (Notice I said
*potential*.  I am not implying that you don't get the same stitch quality
with a rotary, ok.) 

Anyway, I used to own a 1230 also.  What a wonderful machine!!!!!!

Happy sewing!!
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 09:36:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Cover Stitch?

  > OK, guys, tell me, what is a cover stitch? Maybe it is another name for
  > something I already have or know how to do. I have a 2000DE serger, so those
  > of you who have the same and know what a cover stitch is, let me know if I
  > have one.  Thanks.
  > Mary M 

Well, I have the new model, the 2000DCE which has the cover stitch.  The older
models do not have it.

The stitch from the good side looks like two rows of topstitching, and on the
bottom, there is a sort of interlocked looping from one row to the other. The
stitch is a stretch stitch.  No knife is used, and you can sew into the center
of the material.  This stitch is often used in swimwear to finish off elastic
on the waist and legs.

The machine must be converted by replacing the needles into a wider position,
and the foot, plate and knife shield are replaced. A sliding switch inside
the machine disables the upper looper and makes the lower one move elliptically
(I think :-)

Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:01:44 -0400
Subject: Pattern Drafting


If you enjoyed the pattern drafting class, you might want to check out a
program called "Fittingly Sew" from Bartley Software.

I've more or less taught myself from textbooks over the past years, but in
the fall I'd like to try some courses at FIT (that is if the state tuitions
don't go through the roof!).

I've always enjoyed designing my own patterns, but hated the tedious
 drafting process.  I'd be fine through the major pieces, but would be
getting bored by the time I was doing facings, and then I'd make some stupid

With Fittingly Sew, you can either build slopers from measurements, or draw
pieces from scratch.  I was happy to discover that there's really not a thing
you can do manually that you can't do with the program.  It's also great
because you can select a piece edge, and click "ADD FACING" and boom, there's
your facing.  It also adds seams allowances, in any configuration you'd like.

I'm still learning my way around it, but am enjoying it.  Anne Bartley has a
CIS address, and has always been very helpful and prompt in answering
questions.  The company is located in Nepean, Ontario (near Ottawa maybe?).

There are other pattern drafting programs, and just about all of them will
send you a demo disk.


Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 19:11:31 -0400
Subject: wearable art list &cover stitch

To subscribe to the Wearable Art List write to:

In the body of the message, type SUBSCRIBE WEARABLE

The new 2000DCE serger has the cover stitch. It looks like ready-to-wear: a
double row of stitching on the outside and a zigzag stitch on the inside. It
is used a lot for hems. I have been told that it works very well but it is a
lot of trouble to convert the serger to do this stitch- about 12 steps.

Happy stitching - Francyne
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 18:43:14 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Group Demographics 


I never get sick of reading about the other people on this list, so hope 
y'all can stand one more!

I am 28 years old, married 5 1/2 years, two kids, owner of a 1530 and a 
2000DE and also a Pfaff 1171. (This seems excessive and I'm thinking of 
selling the Pfaff--it is a really nice machine, but...) I am a teacher 
in my other life, but not currently working, because of relocation to 
Missouri for 1+ years for my husband's post-doc. Despite staying home, I 
seem to have much LESS time for sewing and quilting than I did before. I 
have been sewing since I broke my grandmother's featherweight when I was 
8 years old and my mother insisted that I take sewing lessons before I 
touched a machine again.

I love to make jumpers (perfect teacher-attire...I prefer teaching 1st 
grade to any other level, and the kids love my thematic jumpers) for 
myself and for my little Alexandra. I've also ventured into "boxer 
shorts" for little Cameron, but he is proving (at age 1!) to be as picky 
about clothes as his sister! I love to make quilts, too! I make tons for 
placemats, gift, throw quilts, baby presents for friends...yes, I'm 
addicted, too. In moving, I foudn that I have much more fabric than I'd 
thought. It hasn't stopped me from getting more!

I didn't get the lessons with the 1530, as we moved here right after I 
got it (from Davis, California)...I plan to take some when things settle 
down (maybe in the fall after our summer company has all gone). My 
husband surprised me with the 1530 as a consolation prize for having to 
move across the country without my friends and family! What a great 
surprise it was!

Love the group--I am picking up on lots of ideas and info!

Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 23:13:52 -0400

In a message dated 95-06-27 21:18:25 EDT, you write:

>Also, thought I'd let you guys know....had an adjustment made to my
>1630 and
>the stitch looks great now!  I've been happily sewing/quilting for
>the past
>few days.  (Ray...thanks for your support)


Glad you finally got the problem resolved.  There's nothing more frustrating
than making a major purchase and then not being able to enjoy it!

<< (Notice I said *potential*.  I am not implying that you don't get the same
stitch quality with a rotary, ok.)>>

Very well put.  Maybe we can take a floor vote for closure on the topic!


Don't know exactly where the swamp lands are in my area, but there sure are
enough people selling it!

BTW, promise to share any neat tricks you learn on the 1630.  I'm still
learning my way around too.  Hey, did you know that the 1130/1230 eyelet
embroidery kit DOES work on the 1630.  I had called Bernina in Illinois to
ask if it would fit, and they told me no, but it was slated for production.
 My dealer told me the same.  Couldn't stand to wait, so I decided that I
would get it for my 1130.  When I got home I couldn't resist trying it on the
1630.  Fit and worked perfectly.  Who'd a thunk it!


Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 22:22:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Pattern Drafting

I was reading about the Fittingly Sew program and was curious how a person
might obtain it. Do you have Anne Bartley CIS address so I can contact her. 

Thank you
Christina J
Subject: Demographics
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:36:30 -0400 (EDT)

OK, it's my turn:  Compared to the rest of you, I'm an old lady (53) with an 
old machine (807).  Both of us are still going strong, however!  I've been 
sewing forever, first with a Singer Featherweight, then a fancy Singer which I 
hated. Living in East Africa in the mid-seventies, I learned about Berninas 
from my European friends.  Came home and bought the 807 in 1974.  It's been 
great and I haven't felt any need to upgrade, however I'm beginning to think 
about sergers.  I'm recently, and happily, divorced after 30 years of marriage.
 I have four grown children and two grandchildren, and will retire from OSU 
hospitals in six more years.  I began quilting during the divorce process, and 
it kept me from jumping off bridges during the stressful times.  I'm thoroughly
addicted. I like doing my own designs, and do many 3-dimensional things.  My 
business cards say "Ohio Star QuiltWorks", although at this time I have more 
cards than business .  Having bought a house six months ago, quilting has 
taken a back seat to gardening and decorating.  I enjoy this group, and maybe 
someday I'll get one of those big fancy machines, but I'll never part with my 
807.   Marjorie
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:37:55 EST
Subject: Stitching in the ditch and a little razz for my friends

Ladies and Gentlemen,
I pick on you all in jest, please don't get offended:
If I were collecting for a "real" survey I'd have to throw out
a lot of your responses because they are incomplete. Since this is
fun and not "work", I'll give you the best results I can!

Anyway, on to my serious question.
I started machine quilting a double Irish chain last weekend. I'm
stitching in the ditch around some of the squares. I'm using my
altered walking foot so I can see where I'm going. And I can see
that I'm not staying in the ditch very well. I prefer to use a
#10 foot and put the toe in the ditch, but that defeats the whold
whole idea of using a walking foot in the first place. So how do
you all stay in the ditch? Please let me know!!!

Thanks in advance!

Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:40:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Wearable Art List &Cover Stitch

  > The new 2000DCE serger has the cover stitch. It looks like ready-to-wear: a
  > double row of stitching on the outside and a zigzag stitch on the inside. It
  > is used a lot for hems. I have been told that it works very well but it is a
  > lot of trouble to convert the serger to do this stitch- about 12 steps.

Now that I have done it a bit, the biggest hassles in decreasing order are:

rethreading the machine  (you remove all thread first step!)
repositioning the needles
replacing the stitch plate
replacing the foot

it takes about 5 minutes, maybe, if the rethreading goes well. Longer otherwise.

Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:47:53 -0500
Subject: sergers, who makes them?

I recently got the 2000DCE, and while looking in a fabric store,
I saw several specialty feet for sergers that looked like they
should work for mine.

They were made by Juki, for the MO-600 series, and were 1/2 price, or
about 12.50 each. I got the elasticator, blind hem, and cording
feet.  At the Bernina dealer, the elasticator would have to have 
been ordered, and would be about $32.  The elasticator I got seems
to work fine (I haven't tried the others).

Anyway, I am wondering who actually makes the machine, as it says on
the front it was "made for"  Bernina.

Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:44:58 -0400
Subject: Lightening

I am a new 1230 owner and am still in awe of it.  I turn my computer off when
there are signifcant thunderstorms.  Should I turn off the sewing machine as
well (Yikes!  I won't have anythign to do if I turn off all my electronics.
 Maybe I'll have to read!)

Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:48:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Lightening 

Hi Jean!

It was recommended to me when I bought my 1230 (NOT a 1630 that I Thought I
had..............I don't get to sew but one or two evenings a week and I honest
to goodness couldn't remember my machine model!  But, as I was saying, I was
told to use a "surge protector" plug and to ALSO unplug during thunderstorms as
this could possibly harm the computerized board for the different stitches.

I LOVE my 1230 and bought it (CASH) for a "retirement" investment s-o-m-e day
since I have always enjoyed sewing so much.

I also forgot to say in my demographic response that I have been married for
35+ years (to the same man), have 3 grown children and 6 grand, really GRAND
children, a dog and 5 steers!

I really enjoy all the responses I have read. Someone sent me a message and I
lost their E_MAIL address, but it was about an International Quilt Newsletter.
They said they thought I would enjoy it and I thought I printed off all the
information. I got really busy in the office (students needing things, not to
mention faculty, too) and I just can't find out who it was.

If you read this, please resend to me.

Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 12:57:53 cdt
Subject: Re: Lightening

Jean asked about turning off her sewing machine during thunderstorms.  

Actually you need to *unplug* your sewing machine (and your computer) if there 
is a chance that lightening might strike the line.  A serge protector can only 
do so much.  If the charge climbs through your wires to any electrical 
appliance, it will fry it permanently, big time.  Of course, it's covered by 
your household insurance, but who needs the hassle --don't forget the 
deductible-- (and your computer files are not replacable).  I've been known to 
pad downstairs in the middle of the night during storms to unplug.  My family  
laughs at me, but my Bernina is precious (also my computer).

Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 15:05:47 -0500
Subject: 1630 Key Design Indexes 

Hi Everyone, 

Since I picked up the Sprts/Cartoon key and the Country Quilting Keys for the 
1630, I thought I'd pass along the patterns included on them.  I haven't 
actually tried either yet (Been getting ready for the Special Olympics World 
Games, I work at one of the host sites.  We're doing Volleyball) anyway, I did 
piece together a simple 9 patch &plain block quilt type to try the Quilting Key 
out on.

Sports/Cartoon Key Patterns

Tennis Player
Hurdle Jumper
Soccer Player
Basketball player
Lacrosse (? Maybe Rugby> player
Ski Jumper
Runner (Poised to start race)
Base player at bat

All the sports figures are satin stitched type stick figures (Reminds me of the 
Special Olmpics logo)

The cartoon characters are:
Owl in tree
Hound dog howling
Bunnie on hind legs (like Thumper in Bambi, &yes, I crird when I saw it w/ my 
Man w/ large nose, moustache, &bow tie looking puzzled
Dog standing
Mama bunny 
Fish looking at work &hook
Dancing Geese

Country Quilting patterns
Over Sam - looks very Amish to me
Sort of bent figure 8
Circular scroll pattern mirrored on the horizontal line
4 tulips forming a cirle
fern pattern w/ 5 leaves
Arc (looks like a boomarang to me)
Fleur de lis
small scallopped circle
5 leaf pattern w/ flower bud
Small 4 ovals w/ cross in the center
Sunbonnet Sue
Vine (Looks like it would be good repeated in a continuous pattern)
Leaf w/ 2 flower buds
Oval w/ pointy ends
Leafy branch
Lone star pattern (diamonds forming one quarter of the pattern)
Another leafy branch (longer , thinner than one mentioned above)
Large tulip w/ 2 leaves
Large rose bud
Square w/ center of each side pushed in (Sorry, can't think of any other way to 
describe it)/

The leaflet that comes w/ the quilting key gives quite a few examples of the 
patterns combined in circular patterns.  I'm not too impressed w/ each design 
alone, but they do look good in cominations, so I splurged &bought the key.

If anyone would like a better explaination of the patterns, pleas e-mail &I'll 
try  : )

Sue T
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 18:05:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/28/95

Ok here goes.
37 year old female, married 2 kids, kindergarten teacher during the school
year, quilter/crafter during the summer.
I have a 1630, a Bernina serger 2000D, a featherweight and a Bernina 830.
 That's not too many is it?

Melissa, where do you teach?  I make thematic jumpers too.  Maybe we could
trade ideas.  
E-mail me.

Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 18:20:38 -0400
Subject: small hook-like extra piece on foot #55

>I have just purshased foot no. 55--the leather foot that Kenneth King used on
the TV show.  With it came a small hook like extra piece, can anyone tell me
what it is for, and how do I use it--where does it go.  Thanks--Linda<

My dealer told me when I got the foot that the hook is a thread guide to be
installed on older machines that lack the similar guide (found on all recent
models), just above the needle clamp.

Here's a plug for the Advanced Guide Workbook... 

On p. 81, for foot 55, the extra guide is pointed at, 'included for use on
800 series machines'.

The directions tell the user to remove the regular guide on 800 series
machines because it is larger and may strike the roller on a far left swing
of the needle.  For these 800 machines, thread through the substituted
smaller guide.

For all other machines, the guide recommens threading through the wire guide
at the bottom of the frame, near the check spring, instead of the regular
thread guide at the clamp (the picture -not so clearly- shows that the
thread is not passed through the hook on the post 800 machines.

Hope this helps

Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:38:37 -0500
Subject: Elna

What do people think of Elna vs Bernina?  I was thinking
of an Elna 607 (I think) maybe its 1007.  anyway, I looked
at the Bernina 1032 I think, and an 1006?  The first model
they had with the knee lift, and the first model with the 
DC motor and needle up/down.  Price was steep, it seemed to me :-)
But the machines do look very nicely made.

dave, who should have gotten his numbers straight before posting this!
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 21:27:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Group Demographics

Hi,  This is very interesting!

I am 47, white married with 2 childern both boys ( ages 15 &5).
I have a degree in Home Economics and free lance as a sewing instructor as
well as a sew for pay business from my home.
I own a Kenmore, Singer Featherweight, a grandmothers old "something or
another",  930, 1630 + softwear and a 2000 DCE.
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:19:32 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Stitches 

Hi all!

First, a follow-up on my new 1530.  Before taking it to the Bernina Center
in Honolulu, I talked to the mainland dealer who sold me the 1530.  He
suggested that I oil the bobbin hook, run the machine for 5 minutes and
adjust the bobbin tension if necessary (which I did).  Hooorah!  What a
dream machine!  I've decided to keep it after all >giggle< Evidently, the
flight environment was cold enough for the oil to get a little sticky and
thus affect the stitches. 

Today, I went to my first Bernina Club meeting and want to share a few 
things that I learned.  

For those who use pattern weights:  Cut 2 3.5" squares; sew 3 sides; fill
with aquarium gravel.  Fold raw edges under, matching the seams and top 
stitch straight across which forms a triangle with the top stitching 
making it easy to grab your weight and move it around.  If you have 
little ones, they might use it as little juggling bags.

The following technique is a quilting stitch which many of the ladies 
remarked how closely it resembles sashiko:

Use a #1 foot, fleece backing and select Feather Stitch; Width 0; Stitch
Length 3; Skip Stitch; Top Tension 7; Fine Nylon thread on top; Cordonnet
in the bobbin. 

Another technique is a running stitch that resembles a quilting stitch. 
The instructor didn't demonstrate and added that she doesn't know if it
works so if whoever attempts it, could you let us know how it turns out?

Upper tension 7; nylon on top; cordonnet in bobbin; Stitch 8 
Backward/Forward Stitch; Stitch Length 3 +memory+; Stitch #1 +memory+
Fleece backing.

Sew Happy,

Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:17:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Fittingly Sew


Here's the info for Fittingly Sew:

Bartley Software Inc.
72 Robertson Road, Box 26122
Nepean, Ontario
K2H 9R6

They advertise a price of $199.99 Canadian, which depending upon the
exchange, is about $160-165 US.  That includes next day delivery, and it was
literally at my door the next day!

There are a couple of other similar products, however they seem more geared
to making custom patterns.  You enter measurements and choose from a
selection of classic patterns, with very little design control.

Fittingly Sew includes a couple of pattern templates, but the idea is to
produce a custom sloper, and then use the program to do your own flat pattern

I believe there are three different demos, including FS, in the Fibrecrafts
forum library on CIS.

Let us know how you make out.


Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:38:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina


I can't say much about the Elna machines, since I haven't looked at one since
the day I bought my first Bernina about 12 years ago.

I'd suggest that you definitely go with the DC motor, needle up/down, and

A DC motor means you'll always have full penetrating power at all speeds.  I
don't think my Bernina has ever hesitated on even very thick materials.  That
includes several layers of upholstery, denim, and even leather.

Needle up/down, combined with the knee lifter, is like having a third hand
when you're working on areas that need two hands just to manoeuvre the
fabric.  Also, the knee lifter drops the feed dogs which is very helpful when
putting thick or textured fabrics on the machine.  
Once you get used to these features, you'll find it very hard to ever do
without.  In fact, buy a little more machine than you think you need (without
taking a second mortgage), because you'll usually end up using it.

You're right, the Bernina's aren't cheap, but they're great machines.  Also,
the Bernina machines are built like tanks, and tend to be a little larger in
scale.  I've sat in front of other Euro brands and it seems like my hands are
too big for them (and I'm not Paul Bunyon!).

Good luck,

Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:25:42 -0500
Subject: Advanced guide book

What is the going price on the advanced guide book for Berninas?  Will it
help with all machines? ( I have a 1530)

Thanks, Sarita
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:23:11 -0500
Subject: thematic jumpers

This may be a stupid question, but what are thematic jumpers?

Date:          Fri, 30 Jun 1995 09:50:37 EST5DST
Subject:       Advanced Guide Book 

Where can I get an Advanced Guide Book? Is it for all models (I have 
a 1001)?
Linda P
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:37:49 -0400
Subject: surge suppressors

My Macintosh computer cost $2400 a few years ago, and a surge suppressor set
me back about $100 at the time. The computer is now worth about $300 (not
counting the monitor... which I think is probably worth more than the
computer). My $1630 cost me $2800 including tax. A strip surge protector at
Walmart cost me $15...My 1630 would cost more to replace than what I paid for
it.  I unplug BOTH surge surpressors when I hear thunder nearby, although
sometimes I think twice about the computer, as I wouldn't mind having a new kids are so used to me doing this that they will now do it if a
storm approaches...we only worry about it when the lightening is right in the
neighborhood. We don't suffer from boredom, because if the storm hits during
the day, we sit and watch it from our porch (out of harms way), at night we
are sleeping...

I have just finished piecing a quilt on my Pfaff, because I needed both a
walking foot and a very accurate 1/4 inch seam seemed easier
to just pull out the Pfaff than deal with the learning curve...this quilt has
a deadline. 

I quilted another quilt with Sulky rayon, and used a topstitching needle size
90. There are so many special needles for quilting with picky threads, but I
always try the topstitch first, and it seems to work with most of them.  I
don't use Sewer's aid or anything. But I do make sure the machine is oiled
and properly threaded. I lower the top tension as much as I need to, even
though it seems really low sometimes.
Date: 30 Jun 95 11:03:46 EDT
Subject: Re:Stitches

A few months ago I came across this "quilting" stitch for the electronic Bernina
machines. I have a 1230 on which I tried it and it looks great.

1230/1260     feather stitch #16
                     stitch width      0
                    stitch length      4
                     foot               #8 ( the jeans foot)
                     balance           +2
                     upper tension     7

1530/1630     feather stitch    D2/7
                    stitch width         0
                     stitch length       4
                     foot                 #8
                      balance          +2V
                      upper tension     7

I tried it using metrosene thread in the bobbin and .004 Wonder invisible thread
on top.

Subject: Bernina Books
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 09:26:00 PDT 

Just started receiving this listing and find it very helpful. Maybe you all 
can answer a question about books. I see that Clotilde has two Bernina books 
available mail-order:
     "Know Your Bernina" (second edition) by Jackie Dodson supposedly for
                        models 730-1130

and  "Step-by-Step Guide to Your Bernina" from the "Teach Yourself to Sew
         Better" series by Jan Saunders.

I have been sewing about 30 years on and off, and bought a Bernina 1090 a 
couple years ago when I was ready to kill my Kenmore with a sledgehammer (it 
would have been very satisfying to do, but I traded it in instead). As I now 
use it mostly for quilting,  with the occasional utility project (like sail 
bags, and shortening hems) I was wondering if you know these books and if 
you think they will be helpful for me.

I was told that Know Your Bernina does not include the 1090, and also is 
being re-written.  Is this true? If so, do you know when it will be 

I know I'm not using my 1090 to its potential and had hoped that these books 
might shed some light on the more detailed and advanced tips and techniques. 
What do you think?

For the record, I am WASP, female, 40, computer professional, Southern 
California born and raised, also race sailboats (Hobie 20) as my other 

Thanks for any help.
Debbie G
Date:     Fri, 30 Jun 95 09:39:11 PDT

>I recently got the 2000DCE, and while looking in a fabric store, I
>saw several specialty feet for sergers that looked like they should
>work for mine.
>They were made by Juki, for the MO-600 series, and were 1/2 price,
>or about 12.50 each. I got the elasticator, blind hem, and cording
>feet.  At the Bernina dealer, the elasticator would have to have
>been ordered, and would be about $32.  The elasticator I got seems
>to work fine (I haven't tried the others).
>Anyway, I am wondering who actually makes the machine, as it says on
>the front it was "made for"  Bernina.

The Bernina 334, and also I believe to 2000, is made by Juki
Industrial in Japan.  The other Berninas (Fun Lock, etc) are made by
Juki, but not the industrial division.  (Sylvain knows more about
this...perhaps he'll respond.)  This was the dealer in S.F. told me
yesterday when we were chatting about where all these were made.
I'd be interested in more comments from you about these Juki feet.


Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 15:03:23 -0400
Subject: Shocking protection

When we bought our computer, part of my education about such things was that
the little power bars that are so popular in workshops etc as both multiple
outlet devices and "protection" are pretty lightweight in the protection
dept.  Computer stores and other electronic places sell surge protectors for
$25 or more and involve both heavier duty protection (but who can really deal
with the power of lightening?) and insurance against lightning damage.  You
fill out a card and send it back and supposedly you get so many years of
replacement value insurance.  Don't know how this really pays out, but it
gives the idea that they do stand behind their product.  It is technically
possible for lightning to hit your machine without it being plugged in, but
common folk wisdom says it's safer unplugged.

Not long after I bought my house, it was apparently (I wasn't home at the
time) hit by lightning.  No visible damage (thank goodness) but the strike
fried our answering machine and our well's submersed pump.  Both of these
items are common lightning victims.

Well, that's more than anyone wanted to know about the subject.

Mary Beth
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 09:16 WET
Subject: 1630

Hello!  I am new to the list.  I have a Bernina 1130 
and a Bernette 334DS.  Love both machines.  I am a costumer at a local 
theatre, use big power machines at work, but and fancy or delicate work, I 
bring home to sew on my Bernina.  My main hobby is quilting.  I was reading 
yesterday's digest about the 1630.  Am I correct in assuming that the 1630 
will machine quilt in designs?  Sort of like those big home quilting 
machines I see advertised in quilting magazines?  How big are the patterns?  
Does anybody use this feature, and how do they like it?  Any info would be 
appreciated.  Thank-you.
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 15:35:24 -0500
Subject: #55 foot, sergers

I also just purchased the #55 foot and when I received it (yesterday, June 29),
it arrived in just a little plastic ziploc bag.  No instructions.  I called
the shop where I bought it and explained that I didn't know for sure how to
use it and what is this little hook thing, anyway?   Well, their Bernina
expert won't be in until Saturday and I said that I belong to the BerninaFanClub
on the internet and maybe I would see my answer posted there.  Sure enough.
Thanks to Sylvain, I now know more than I did.  I'll go home tonight and look
in my advanced guide - which is what I probably should have done in the first
place.  Only problem is I keep all my books in the basement.  I needed more
room in my studio, so moved the books downstairs.  Not always convenient.

RE: sergers.  I have the Bernina 2000DE (I think that's the letter designation)
It's the 4 cone serger.  I've been reading about the 5 cone and wondering if
that cover stitch couldn't be duplicated on my 1530 sewing machine with a
twin needle and a stretch straight stitch?  Or maybe even just a straight
stitch?  No doubt it would be $1,000 to upgrade and that sure would buy a
lot of fabric.  Just a thought.

Ida T
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 17:44:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Sergers

 >The Bernina 334, and also I believe to 2000, is made by Juki
 >Industrial in Japan.  The other Berninas (Fun Lock, etc) are made by
 >Juki, but not the industrial division.  (Sylvain knows more about
 >this...perhaps he'll respond.)  This was the dealer in S.F. told me
 >yesterday when we were chatting about where all these were made.
 >I'd be interested in more comments from you about these Juki feet.

I don't have a lot more to say,yet.  I saw the Bernina elasticator foot,
and it looked identical to the Juki one.  It works fine, no problems
so far.  I haven't tried the others yet.  Its a shame they didn't have 
more feet, these were closeouts...  They had some cheaper looking feet
that I thought would work, but they looked like copies.  I think if you
can find the Juki stuff, you should get it, if its cheaper. I was lucky
that it had been marked down twice, all their Juki accessories were 1/2 price
,so I also got an upper and lower knife.

Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/22/95
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 15:40:18 -0500

Hello Bernina Fans,

Just have to put in my $.02 on a couple things:> I like being able to read 
a group just for ideas for our bernina's too, but like alot of you I quilt 
too. I've made alot of clothes and home deco items in my time too!

I love my new serger 2000d and I wouldn't trade it or my 1 year old 1080 
either, for any other machine. This group has helped me decide if I upgrade 
not to go all the way to a 1630, I'm going to let them work out the bugs 

BTW my time is 37 years old, 2 children, work part time, H.S. Grad with 
some Tech School:> Whew! I haven't had that much to 
say for awhile, I bet you were wondering if I was still lurking around:>


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