Bernina Fan Club Archives

July 95

Subject: Re: Fittingly Sew
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 22:05:47 PDT

Do you know if it is available for a MAC?

TIA :0}

Jean P
Subject: Re: Advanced Guide books
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 22:27:41 PDT

I'm not sure about the current prices of the Advanced Guide Books, there
are three issues that I know of, the original and Supplement #1 &#2.

These books tell about each foot and how to use them.  They give the 
foot number, which may differ between machines.  In some cases the directions
may not refer to the machine you have, but just get on here and we will
help you find the right setting for your machine.  They were mostly
written between the 830-1230 models, but with our help or your dealers help,
they are very usefull if you have a lot of extra feet.

Jean P
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 08:06:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/30/95

Primary elementary teachers have been teaching using themes, like apples,
bears, etc.  Many of us coordinate our clothing to go along with these
themes,,  I have an apple jumper that I wear when we do apples, etc.  
Kind of puts a little spark in the classroom.

Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:00:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Shocking Protection (Near Misses)

About 3 years ago, we had a nearly diasterous experience, which lead to major
precautions: I always kept my old Singer 503 (one of the last of the good
Singers) plugged in. One day, we went away for the day, leaving our 2 little
guys with the babysitter. One of them got into the computer/sewing room &
knocked a notebook onto the footpedal on the floor, causing the machine to
run continuously for a few hours. As soon as I walked in the door, I smelled
something hot electrically. I started searching in the basement; everything
was ok there, followed by the first floor. When I got upstairs, I went into
the room, to find the footpedal smoking!!! It had melted the part of the lid
of the plastic case of my tackle box, and scorched &melted the plastic
window of an envelope! We were extremely lucky that the house didn't burn
down and that no one was hurt. I unplugged the foot pedal &carried it
downstairs &outside to the porch to let it cool off. (Needless to say the
footpedal was rendered useless).

The next thing I did was buy a halon fire extinguisher for the room
 (envrironmentalists, please don't fuss; it's the only thing safe for
computer equipment) . I would only use it on computer or sewing equipment. I
would use our regular chemical extinguishers on any other type of fire.
(Chemical fire extinguishers spray a chemical that is corrosive &will
destroy sensitive equipment, but at least they are safe for an electrical
fire, unlike water, etc.)

Also, we, too, lost things in an electrical storm: In 1986, we lost  the TV &
a ground fault circuit interrupter that sacrificed itself to save our
microwave oven &KitchenAid mixer.

When I use my computers, I plug them into voltage regulators (I use
TrippLite's Line Conditioner); these are theoretically guaranteed, even for
lightening strikes, and will insure your equipment if damaged by power
problems for up to $10,000 or $25,000, depending on the model. Even so, I
still unplug everything in an electrical storm. I have similar protection,
TrippLite's Command Control Center for my Bernina 1630, but I unplug it
whenever it's not in use, like the owner's manual tells you to do!

Sorry this got a little long, but if it helps just one person, it's worth it!

Have a great Fourth of July!
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 1995 11:44:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Advanced Guide books

> I'm not sure about the current prices of the Advanced Guide Books, there
> are three issues that I know of, the original and Supplement #1 &#2.

I checked the price at the local dealer...she said @40 for the Advanced
Guide Book and @11 for each supplement. I ordered them in April, but they
never came in. Still waiting....(G)

Date: Sat, 01 Jul 1995 12:03:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Shocking Advice (Near Misses)

> About 3 years ago, we had a nearly diasterous experience, which lead to

I also had a nasty experience, which even unplugged appliances were
damaged! Last summer, the transformer for our home (and seven others on it)
starting spewing fireballs into the air (underground utilities). With every
POW/fireball the lights flickered. I ran around immediately &unplugged TVs,
VCRs, stereo, computers, and everything else I could come across. The fire
dept came &stood there (sorta like keystone cops) til the electric co got
there. They turned off the electricity to all of our homes while they worked
on the transformer. 14 hours later (4AM) they decided they had it repaired
and turned the power back on to our homes. We were awakened to brilliant
light that made a buzzing noise (the light switch was turned OFF) and then
everything started to pop. Light bulbs literally exploded. My blow dryer
(unplugged!) turned itself on, etc. They had connected the ground wire to
the main line...big error. I lost things that were actually unplugged since
the current was so strong (20,000V they said) it jumped the circuits and
formed its own arc. Any appliance whose plug was within 8 inches of the
outlet was zapped! It was a frightening experience, to say the least, and
now, when I unplug, I wrap the cord around the sewing machine, computer,
etc, just in case! 
FYI, we had over 20,000 in damage..including having to rewire the better
portion of our house...melted wiring inside the walls and the circuit box
was 'melted'. Scary.
Happy sewing! Keep those Berninas safe!
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 13:13:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Fittingly Sew


Yes, there is a Mac version -- the ad says Mac 6 or better.


Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 16:21:05 -0500
Subject: demographics

I am running late on everything lately due to being out of town, and my DH
having the computer taken apart :(, so hope it is not too late to let you
know about me.

I am a WASP , woman, 58, a first grade teacher (on vacation, yay!).  I have
been married to the same man for 35 years tomorrow, have two daughters, 28
and 29, and belong to a black and white cat named Shadow.

I have an 1130 which I love and use for quilting mainly nowadays, though I
do still make some clothing on it.  I make thematic jumpers for school also.
Have you other teachers ever been accused of trying to look like Ms.
Frizzle?  I have especially when I wear my fish jumper with socks and
earrings to match!  I also own a featherweight, but use it mainly for
classes and when Bernie is at the shop for his annual checkup.  I do miss
him when he's not around though.

                              Nancy M
Subject: Re: Pattern weights
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 20:10:28 

Here is another idea for pattern weights.  Buy large washers at the hardware
store.  They cost between .50 and .75 per washer and work very well.  If you
wish you can make little cases for each one out of scraps of fabric.

I just celebrated my big 50 birthday, have been married 28 years, two grown
and financially independent children.  I have a Bernina 1020 which I love
after suffering 25 years with a Kenmore that wouldn't keep its tension and
just purchased  a New Home serger 234D (used).  I pick it up Monday and
can't wait. I love quilting and making wearable art as well as sewing gifts
for family and friends.

Happy sewing
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 21:25:42 -0400
Subject: Re: 1630

Quilting designs - good question.  The 1630 does not "quilt" like the large
quilting machines do.  I looked into both machines and went with the 1630.  

There is a Country Quilting Pattern key for the 1630.  I haven't used it and
probably never will.  It does have some fun characteristics and I suspect
there are those of you out there who will get quite a bit of use out of it.

I do a lot of free hand quilting and have had great success with my Nina.  I
know the 1630 isn't the "quilting" machine to buy.  It has been a real gem
for me and (knock on wood) I haven't had any problems with it.  I sew for a
good 8 hours a day when I get going.

Hope this helps.
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 00:07:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Lightening

Jean, When I got a new computer, I bought a super duper top of the line surge
supresser.  Being thrifty, I took the old supresser to my sewing room and
plugged all electrics into it: sewing machine, serger, iron and auxillary
lights.  The main reason was to make it simple to remember to turn off all
machines--there is just the one switch on the supresser.  It was much later
that I realized I was also protecting my computer-driven sewing machine from
power surges.   BTW, I also take the supresser and an extension cord with me
when I take classes.  The added plug-ins are always appreciated.
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 09:56:05 -0400
Subject: Re: demographics


Who am I you ask?  Good question.  I'm 33 1/2 (have to be like the kids),
white, married to my best friend of 20 years (married 13), 3 children, 2 dogs
(1 too many - if any of you live near RI and would like a sweet 15 mo. old
yellow, spayed lab, she's yours), 1 cat and a guinea pig.

I'm the happy owner of a 1630 (first Nina I've owned), an 004D serger,
Singer, featherweight and a Singer 301 which I know nothing about.

I started quilting about a year and a half ago.  I like to make one of a kind
wall hangings.  I am finishing a Great Blue Heron made with all hand painted

I'll be spending 5 days at teh Vermont Quilt Festival.  If any of you are
going to be there and want to meet, please drop me a note.

A happy 1630 owner
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 1995 19:09:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/22/95

Hi Bernina's

My name is Jean,  married, no kids, 4 cats, a 931, 2 Featherweights,
and a Funlock 004D, I quilt , wearable arts and home deco. WASP 
high school and some college, work for one of the many telephone companies
and do things with the 931 that I didn't think I could do.  Love my Bernina.

I do have a question.  Does anyone know how or if I can do a button hole
stitch on a 931?

Thanks for the help and love this group.

Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 19:21:56 -0400
Subject: Demographics

Have enjoyed reading (and lurking).  Here's mine:

52-yr old swf (single white female) actually twice divorced. 2 boys (30 &31)
both with wives, one with grandchildren (makes me a great-grandmother

civil service employee (clerical) in public utility trying to downsize (too
bad I'm not old enough to accept their incentive or I would be unemployed),
A.A. degree (2 yrs junior college). I keep going back to take more fun stuff
and probably have 5 years of lower division credit by now.

Have been sewing since I could reach the treadle on the machine (and yes, we
did have electricity in the house, just no electric sewing machine). Sewed my
own clothes and special things for sons and husbands.  Have gone thru Singer
and White Jeans machines and discovered Bernina.  Had 1090 and upgraded to
1530.  Love it!  Do only piecing and quilting right now, but saw Rachel Clark
trunk show and am ready to make quilted clothing (if I can find a pattern
that is not fitted since my body no longer fits any dressmakers specs).

Anne W
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:11:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Lightning

I can speak from my experience with being an amateur radio operator 
regarding lightning protection.  We have surge protectors in the 
radio/computer room.  During lightning and thunder storms we unplug the 
surge protectors to which are attached the radios and computer.  We also 
disconnect the antennas to the radios.  But most important, and not 
mentioned, is to unplug your modem which is connected to your telephone 
line.  All these protective devices will help preserve your equipment, 
but a *direct hit* on or near your house may still destroy your 
electronic equipment regardless of its being unplugged.  This happened to 
a friend in town--all his extensive radio equipment was unplugged but a 
lightning strike destroyed the equipment next to the window, but not 
across the room.  When it comes to the sewing machine, I really don't 
know.  If I had an electronic model, I'd have a surge protector but would 
probably keep on sewing unless the storm became extreme.  When on 
vacation, we take all the above precautions.  One time many years ago,
lightning struck a pine tree which stood about 10 feet from our house.  
Electricity jumped to the house, knocking out the oven light switch.  I 
was in the room at the time--heard the little spring hit the floor 
and saw a flash inside the oven.  Nothing else was damaged.  Such is the 
power and capriciousness of lightning.
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:14:07 -0400
Subject: group demographics

Here's one more...I've been away.

My name is Sheila, I'm a white 38 year old female, BA, MA, clinical psychology.
Married 11 years, two children, 4 and 7, work 1/2 time as a prevention
specialist  (I love my job!)  Have a Bernina 1230 which I bought when my
daughter was 6 months old, and I also have an old Singer.  I love to quilt,
and have made many dresses for my daughter, (who would now prefer to wear
her brother's old ninja turtles tee shirts!)  I love my 1230, and have
never had any problem with it.  My quilting and sewing has improved
significantly since I bought this great machine.

I love this forum because people do have many different interests.  I no
longer subscribe to Quiltnet, because it's so long, and when I read it I
often think of all the quilting I could be doing!  Silly me, I went back to
work just when the kids started being out of the house more!

Happy Fourth!

Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 12:59:34 -0400
Subject: All these feet!

OK, I give up -- what are you supposed to do to STORE all these feet? does
Bernina make a carrying case/box or shelf unit?  Does SOMEONE?  I expect the
walking foot will live in its box but what about all the rest?

I'm open to ideas, official and creative.  My disaster of a sewing room
thanks you in advance

Mary Beth<-- who has spent 1 hour cleaning flat surfaces and the interior of
the 1260 in preparation of quilting.
Subject: Re: Stitches ????
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:13:44 PDT

Hi Linda and All ^_^;

I have had a 1530 for a few months now but have not had my instruction class
yet.  Having owned my 930 since 1982 I am very familiar with the brand.  The
dealer was new to Berninas so I have waited until they had their classes and
became more familiar with the product and I will be taking my two hour 
instruction class tomorrow.

So I have a question for Linda or anyone who may be able to help regarding
the above 1530 instructions.
>1530/1630     feather stitch    D2/7 <  
        On my 1530 the feather stitch is G2/7

>balance          +2V<
        I was at my dealers today and showed her these instructions as I did
        not understand the "V" after +2.  She thinks that maybe you meant +24
        instead of +2V.  IS THAT SO??  As there is no "V" there!

        She also said that this area in the machine only applies to the 
        reverse stitches.  Does anyone know if she is correct?

Jean P
Subject: Re: All these feet!
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:43:50 PDT

> OK, I give up -- what are you supposed to do to STORE all these feet? does
> Bernina make a carrying case/box or shelf unit?  Does SOMEONE?  I expect the
> walking foot will live in its box but what about all the rest?


I use a Plano 9 x 14 clear plastic box from Orchard Supply and the sections
are removable so you can set them up how ever you like.  Yes, the walking
foot does fit in there also, but not the quilting guides, I left those in
the box.  This box even holds all my Schmetz needles and extra bobbin cases
and straight stitch plate too, plus other things. The circular foot and the 
ruffler and circular foot I do keep separate to though.

ruffler I keep seperate tho.
Jean P
Date:           Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:59 EDT
Subject:        Re: All these feet!!

> OK, I give up -- what are you supposed to do to STORE all these feet? does
> Bernina make a carrying case/box or shelf unit?  Does SOMEONE?  I expect the
> walking foot will live in its box but what about all the rest?

I found a carry box from Bernina that has two feet holders like the one that
came in the accessories box with my 1230.  Each holder will hold 10 feet, so
all total, I have slots to store up to 20 feet...  now if I just had the
funds to fill the box, I would be set for life.  The box itself is about 9" x
12" and has a handle in the middle.  The two holders take up 1/2 of the box.
The other side is open for larger feet like the walking foot and ruffler,
extra bobbins, etc.  It fits just fine in the drawer of my sewing desk.  My
regular Bernina dealer was not aware of any box like this - I found it at
dealer in another town I was visiting.  I paid AU$20 for the box, which I
thought was reasonable.

On my 1230, the foot holder in the accessories box is detachable.  If you
don't need a box but only want another holder for feet, you might ask
your dealer if they can sell you just to foot holder separately.  Hope this

Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 19:16:15 -0400
Subject: Re: demographics

53, married, grandmother of 4 with one more on the way.  College grad.  Owner
of 1080, 2000dce , elna deluxe and now looking to buy a Deco 500 and knitting
machine.  The one with the most toys is still dead.
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 19:37:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: All these feet!

Dear Mary Beth:  I think  your question regarding storage of feet is a 
good one--I've often wondered what other people do.  I have just a few 
extra feet--yes, my walking foot stays in its box when not in 
use--and, early on, the plastic accessory box broke.  I made a hanging 
caddy out of sturdy, but lightweight, canvas and sewed little squares 
across the bottom, each forming a pocket big enough for one foot.  The 
caddy is hung by using thumbtacks pushed into a bulletin board which
hangs just above my sewing table.  I've used this caddy for almost a 
dozen years.  If I had more feet, I'd make two rows of pockets.  It will 
be interesting to see how ingenious our fellow stitchers have been.
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 23:57:42 -0400
Subject: Re: All these feet!!

Hi you all!

I fix my problems of the feet by purchasing a plastic box used for the 
embroidery threads, they are neatly organized (I usually have more than 
one, and not all of them are Bernina original, I use the adaptor, so I 
have a lot of low shank that can be used in all my sewing machines). I 
had done the same with the machine needles. I am a seamtress, an 
hupholterer and I need to have all my needles separated. This is a 
inexpensive option (box cost about 3 or 4 Dls.) I also use them for my 
buttons collections, because they are very practical.

Love you all,

Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 06:00:47 -0400
Subject: Re: All these feet!!

Myra's idea is great...I store my extra feet in fishing lure boxes from
Walmart.   Well they're cheap(more money to buy feet) and fit in my cabinet
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:10:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Foot storage

I took a piece of fine foam received as packing around something or 
other, sliced horisontal and parallel grooves in it, and wedged it in a 
box that fits into my sewing cabinet.  The feet are pushed into the 
intersections between the groves which form small crosses.  The foam is 
soft enough to fit around a wide variety of feet.
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 12:42:44 -0400
Subject: foot holders and balance stitch

Hello all!

The accessory box with the 2 removable foot holders mentioned in the July 4
digest was the first box made by Bernina. You can buy extra foot holders also
- the box will hold 4 total. A second box that is white and has a drawer is
also available. It is larger and can be closed and carried like a little
suitcase. I can get all my feet and accessories in there for both the sewing
machine and the serger.Just tell your dealer to call Bernina and ask about
accessory boxes. Another possibility for those of you who have drawer space
in your cabinet is to put your Bernina foot holders in a drawer. You can buy
them to fit the regular size feet or the oversize feet for the 1630.

The + (plus) and - (minus) buttons on a Bernina are used to balance stitches
forwards and reverse. The plus button puts the stitches further away from
each other and the minus button brings them closer together.  (On the 1630
there is also a horizontal balance feature for sideways motion.) For example
if you wanted to get a good satin stitch, you would set the stitch length at
your satin stitch length, test the stitch, and then fine tune it with the
balance buttons to bring the stitches close enough together so that they just
meet but not pile on top of each other. You can also create new stitches from
the built-in stitches by combining functions including the balance feature.
Check out the exercises on p. 50 in your 1530 Guide book to get the idea
starting with the stitch on the right hand side of the illustration and
working your way to the left following the directions at the top of the page.
(1230 people see p. 29)

I hesitate to comment about the +2V because when I tried this stitch several
years ago to simulate a hand quilting stitch, I couldn't get it to work as
written. I increased the balance 2 times  meaning that I brought the stitches
closer together  and I found that I had to have the upper tension at 3
meaning that it was loosened rather than tightened (monofilament nylon on top
and 50 wt. cotton in bobbin). It does look like a hand stitch with the spaces
in between the running stitches. Good luck with it and let me know if it is
really practical. I did not try it with a walking foot and I certainly
wouldn't quilt anything without one.

Happy stitching from Francyne
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 16:15:05 -0400
Subject: Re:  All those feet

I purchased a one of those things with all the plastic drawers (mine has 30)
that you often see at the hardware store for storing nuts, bolts, etc.  My
feet fit in quite nicely, and I also put bobbins in one of the drawers, even
my buttonhole cutter will fit in one of the drawers.  I purchased my box at
Big Lots for $5.00.  It has been great.

Kim H
Date: Wed,  5 Jul 95 18:30:26 PDT
Subject: Stitch in Ditch/Walking Foot

Someone asked about stitching in the "ditch" (seam well) on a quilt, and having
trouble using a walking foot or edge stitch foot.  I've used my walking foot
with better results than the edge stitch foot.  Very rarely will the stitch stay
precisely on the seam line.  I remember Sandra  eBetzina saying in one of her
videos or Power Sewing books, to chose one side or the other of the seam wsell
and sew close to the well but not on it, and you will get better results.  I've
been following that advice for years and am very pleased, every time I think I
can sew  down the middle again, I am disappointed with the results.  I've used
this method on my 930 and 1530, and have now sold those and have a 1630, which I
love.  I don't use my walking foot always; sometimes just my #1 foot, but I find
the edge stitch does not work well on stitch in the ditch, because it is hard to
control, and has a tendency to get hung up with any bulk, whether it be quilting
or clothing construction.

Date: Wed,  5 Jul 95 18:40:44 PDT
Subject: Bernina 3rd Arm And Sewing Tables

I've only been reading the Bernina news group since min May, so fforgive me 
if this subject has come up before, but I'm curious about what kind of 
tables Bernina sewers use for their machines and sergers.  I've tried
many kinds of setups.  I currently have a U-shaped table that has my 334
serger on the left, and 1630 on the right.  I have a rolling type office
chair.  The trouble I have with this set up is that there is a  manual
lever to put the machines up and down, and when the 1630 is down, I can't
use the 3rd arm bacause of the lip on the table, so I cut a hole for it
with a saw, _but_, when I need to change the bobbin or use the free arm,
I need to raise the machine and then I need to take off the third arm.  I
can't just leave the machine up on my table and put the arm on because
that makes it too high to reach with my knee, and it hits the table top!
When I lower it again, I have to line up the hole for the third arm 
"just so", for it to work, which is a real hassle.
I've owned Berninas for 17 years and have had that same problem before.
I've ended up putting it on a regular table with the flat bed put on.
Anyone having innovative ideas or names of companies that make or sell
reasonably priced tables that work well with Berninas, please let me know.

Subject: Balance stitch
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 20:35:26 PDT

Hi Francyne;

>I hesitate to comment about the +2V<
I just read your msg. and still can't figure out what the "V" is 
there for?  Am I missing something in the instruction book?  ;-/

I finally had my 1530 class today which went like this.....the
teacher picked up the book and said "OK what do you want to know"
and read it back to me.  

She could have cared less.  She is a Pfaff person and has to teach 
New Home as well and is very put out because her employer is now a 
Bernina dealer too and created more work for her.  She declares he 
has no intention of having any Bernina Club either, as promised.

So guess I will continue to ask stupid questions online.  :0}
Thanks for your comments.
Jean P
Date: 05 Jul 95 23:51:26 EDT
Subject: All these feet

I've seen the feet stored in a plastic case with small compartments(meant to
hold embroidery floss).
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 07:00:06 -0400
Subject:  Re: All these feet!

What to do with all those feet? At the moment, mine are in a plastic box with
dividers which I bought at The Container Store. If you are lucky enough to
have one of these gems in your locale, I think you will find it highly
entertaining, and you will want lots of things that they have. I am in the
Chicago area, and mine is in Oakbrook, IL. The store is just what it says and
has containers for anything you can imagine. I rank it right up there with
stores for office supplies, books and quilt supplies.

If you do not have a Container Store, go to Walmart, K-Mart, a sporting goods
store or a fishing supplies store and look at the tackle boxes. They are
great for storing lots of sewing supplies, including Bernina feet.

Mary M
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 07:00:12 -0400
Subject: Taming the foot pedal

Have you seen a product from Rubbermaid called Grip Liner? I
stumbled on it at Walmart, and the only way to describe it is to
say it's sort of like a bigger, thicker horse bandage. It comes
in a roll 12 inches by 10 feet for $2.98. They say it resists
slipping, and cushions and protects. They show it on the label
as a drawer liner where you don't want stuff to slide around
and bunch up, and in several other ways. I cut a piece to go
under the Bernina foot pedal, and it stays put! I have the
Pfaff foot pedal permanently tamed with Velcro hook tape, so it
doesn't slide on carpeting, but this doesn't work with the
Bernina 1530 pedal which has sort of a recessed bottom. The
next thing I am going to do is cover most of my sewing table
with it to see if it keeps stuff from sliding off when I am
running the serger at top speed. (I always fear being impaled
through the foot with my scissors.) This stuff comes in
different colors, so I got blue; and it's washable.

Mary M
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 95 05:42:20 MDT
Subject: Demographics

I'm 40 (just reached it),female, college education, systems analyst degree.  
Have had a 1090 for 6 years, a 2000DE for 2. No kids, just a DH, horses and a 
dog. Raised in a house with top of line ELNA, but I only did the mending thing 
do to time constraints.  After a back injury, which forced me to just "sit" 
for a year, I "bit the bullet", and now have at least full size 6 quilts on 
the go...  plus all the other projects...bags, wallhangings, lap quits....

Linda (A winter quilter) 
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:07:58 -0400
Subject: Decisions Decisions


I'm new to the Bernina net.  I have been promised one by christmas at the
very latest.

How do I pick the right one??  I am a new quilter so any of you who use yours
for this I would love to hear from you.

I am looking at the 1090.  I like the 1260 but it is a bit high unless we
have an unexpected windfall.  Are there other models I should consider?

Eagerly anticipating. . . . 

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 10:37:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Demographics

Hope I'm not too late....It was a looooong weekend. My daughter had all four
impacted wisdom teeth removed last Friday. "We" still haven't recovered.

Candy Edgerley, female, 49 (I dread December this year....),  caucasian,
Northern Virginia, BS in Business Education, currently unemployed (enjoying
sewing and the internet too much), wife of Mel and mother of Tamryn, 20 and
Ryan, 18 (both in college).  Purchased my 1130 while living in Germany eight
years ago and still not ready of upgrade. Purchased a 2000DE last fall and
have been enjoying my year of free classes that came with the machine. 

Particularly enjoy wearable art (I'm on the wearable art list also) and
quilting. Have loved the compliments I receive wearing my "threads" jacket (I
lost count of the spools of thread I used on it). Just finishing a 9-patch
lap quilt for my mother-in-law's Christmas present and a bargello double bed
size quilt for my son, also a Christmas present. (I'm usually not this
organized!) More typical is the baby quilt I'm trying to get myself to start.
My friend's baby is due at the end of the month. Wish me luck!
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:17:09 EDT
Subject: Re: All these feet

Bernina makes two containers for extra feet.  If you have the large coded
feet for the 1630, you'd want the white container with the red letters
(Bernina) on it.  It has lots of spaces for feet and some larger spaces
good for the ruffler and walking feet, etc.  I am very satisified with it.

Ruth B
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:13:44 EDT
Subject: Re: Balance Stitch

There is no excuse for that type of treatment.  Please speak to the store
owner.  It would be a good idea to write to Bernina of America.  We all pay
too much to be treated discourtersly.

Ruth B
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 11:38:26 MST
Subject: RE: Taming the Foot Pedal

I also use the product described by Mary to tame pedals.....also have it
under my serger and sewing machine (cuts down on noise)...DH uses it
for all kinds of things in the garage...must be the miracle fabric of the
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 08:17:06 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Re: Taming the Foot Pedal

The grip liner is ideal.  I went to Eagle's Hardware and found an 11x17-in
pineboard in the Odds/Ends bin which cost .50.  When I 'heel' the foot
pedal for needle-down, it wouldn't work because of the carpeting.  With
the liner under the pineboard, heeling is no longer a problem and I don't
chase my foot pedal under the table.

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:27:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: warranties

When so many Bernina customers are concerned about service when buying 
out of town or out of state, I got to wondering about Bernina's 
warranty.  There is no information in my instruction guide for my 
12-year-old Bernina.  Isn't that warranty, assuming it exists, valid 
wherever we purchase?  Also, as far as the lessons go, one dealer stated 
that the consumer was entitled to lessons anywhere--you need some sort of 
certificate from the original purchase point.  Comments anybody?  Also, I 
don't think you have to explain yourself if you have purchased out of 
your area.  Many things could have transpired to provide you with an out 
of state sewing machine.
Date: 06 Jul 95 12:00:10 EDT
Subject: Re:Stitches

Hi Jean :

Regarding the "quilting" stitch on the Bernina: Since I sew on a 1230, I haven't
tested the other stitch directions for the 1530/1630. If you want I can contact
the originator of those directions and ask her as she has a 1630. Perhaps it was
a typo!

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 18:18:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina 3rd Arm...

Dear Jill;
Like you I am new to this list too.  I have had my 1090 for a year and love
it.  I especially love it because I bought a Sew and Go table at the same
time from my Bernina dealer. I don't know about the serger part, but for the
1090 ( and other sewing machines) it has a cut out that allows you to set the
machine down on a shelf, and place a piece around it to form a smooth table
top--the machine is at table level.  The shelf below is open, allowing you to
plug in the foot pedal, power cord, and knee lift (is this the 3rd arm you're
talking about?) and have access to the bobbin.  It is a little awkward to get
at the bobbin, but I have learned to do it with out looking. It is easy tho
to lift up the insert around the machine if you need to see the bobbin area
to clean it or what ever. It also comes with a solid insert to convert the
top to one whole surface which you can set the machine on top of to use the
free arm. There may be a similiar arrangement for sergers but since I don't
have one I didn't ask.  The whole thing came in pieces and had to be
assembled.  It was not difficult, but I recommend an electric screwdriver to
avoid blisters! The table cost about $200 and has been worth every penny.
Hope this is helpful :)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 95 18:51:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Stitches

The +2V in the balance refers to vertical balance.  The 1630 has both horizontal 
&vertical balance.  The 1530 has balance in just one direction (vertical, I 
Sue T
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 19:23:52 -0400
Subject: +2V

Hi Jean!

I don't really know what V is supposed to mean either. I assumed it was a
symbol trying to show that the stitch is supposed to be closer together as
opposed to /\  which would mean bringing the stitches further away from each
other. There is no symbol like it in Bernina literature that I am aware of.
The 1630 uses arrows <~> (further away) and >~< (squeeze together) to
designate the balance buttons rather than + and -. Bear in mind that the
symbols are written vertically and not horizontally as shown above. That was
the best that  I could do on this keyboard.

I am really sorry that your guide class was such a bummer. I suggest that you
try to scout out anotheer Bernina dealer with a good guide class and pay for
it. A comprehensive Bernina guide class will allow you to get the most out of
your machine. We will always be glad to answer any questions that we can on
this forum but hands-on experience is invaluable. On a 1530 you should get at
least 4 hours of instruction.

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 20:00:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/5/95

Jean, there are no stupid questions here.  Ask away.

I got the Country/Quilting key for my 1630.  I am kind of dissapointed in it.
 I did notice that in this key, they give you another instruciton page all
about setting the balance.  It isn't well written at all , and is very
confusing.  I couldn't get many of the motif's to come out right.  
My question to Bernina is  are these keys supposed to work the same on all
1630's, or will each 1630 have to be set differently for these keys.  I think
my 1630 must still have some bugs in it, .....
Has anyone else had these problems yet?  My dealer is going to go to an
Advanced 1630 class soon.  I would love to go with her, but it is for dealers
only I'm sure.  

Happy sewing.  

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 19:14:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Balance Stitch


I had a similar experience when I took my 1530 class.  The regular teacher
was out on maternity leave and the substitute didn't even know it was an all
day class (the students told her).

I've always wondered what I missed.  Since I haven't dont any complaining
(bought it almost two years ago) I guess it's too late.  But it still
bothers me.

Complain loudly - if you have to, call Bernina.  Please let us know if and
how it is resolved.

Date: Fri, 7 Jul 95 07:10:32 EDT
Subject: Re: Stitches

Yes, please.  I'm sure that many of us 1530/1630 owners would appreciate it.

Ruth B
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 95 07:52 CST
Subject: Re[2]: warranties

I just purchased a new Bernina out of state and when I went to pick up the 
sewing machine was told by the dealer that Bernina had a new policy, and if I 
didn't take the lessons where I bought the machine I would have to pay $100 
more.  This $100 would be sent to the dealer where I wanted to take lessons to 
cover the costs to that dealer.

I firmly believe that it is good to buy from a local dealer if they are 
reputable - service and assistance with problems is a big part of what I pay 
for.  It just didn't work out for me to do that this time.
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 11:33:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Taming the Foot Pedal

Two other possibilities for keeping foot pedals in place: left-over mouse
pads (or freebies from your local computer store) and the rolls of shelf
lining meant to keep things from sliding around in recreational vehicles
(which, upon reflection, may be made by Rubbermaid).  The shelf lining is
available from most well-stocked RV suppliers and is quite inexpensive.
Date:         Fri, 07 Jul 95 14:23:24 EDT
Subject:      Needle up/down question

Hi all ... I'm a newcomer who recently traded in her ancient Singer
for a Bernette 740E (I couldn't quite afford a 'real' 'nina yet).
For various reasons I purchased my machine out of town and haven't
had my intro class yet. The 740E has buttons for needle up/down, but
I'm not sure if they're working correctly (since I've never had a
machine with that feature before). I thought that hitting the needle
down button would cause my machine to always stop with the needle in
the down position. On my machine, however, the needle moves to the down
position when I hit the needle down button, but if I continue to sew,
it continues to stop in with the needle up. Which is the correct way for
my machine to operate?

Subject: Thanks
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 95 11:44:41 PDT

Thanks too all for encouraging words and for explaining the "V" means
vertical on a 1530 and that 1630 has both "V" &"H".  That's exactly 
what I needed to know.  :0}

Jean P
Date: Fri,  7 Jul 95 13:29:35 PDT
Subject: re: Re: Balance Stitch
Bernina  Wrote:
| What I have found with the Bernina dealers is that they are still 
thinking that anyone who would possibly buy a sewing machine must also 
qualify for sitting at home by the fireside, cleaning, cooking, etc., 
etc.  They are finding, just as some other organizations-groups are 
that they will get great response on Saturdays or Sunday afternoons.

I haven't gone to my class because of that very thing.  I'm finding out 
various things and have purchased attachments like the shank adaptor at 
quilting shows rather than going back to the stores.

It's always fun to hear of an instructor who really enjoys 
teaching which the mentioned instructor was somewhat lacking, but 
hopefully you'll find friends, as I did, who also have Bernina's, or 
you'll write appropriate letters or make phone calls and get some 
action, or now in this wonderful computer age, just e mail and see what 
can happen.

sally l
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 21:24:59 -0400
Subject: 1090's

Here in sunny S. FL a 1090 runs $1599 haven't seen a sale price only just
began looking.

This list is great by the way and thank you to all who have sung the praises
of the 1090.  I have pretty much settled on it.  Now to rework the budget. .
. . 
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 21:38:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Sew &Go tables

I second the idea of the sew and go table.  Since I was buying with a wind
fall, I bought the table and an extra drawer.  DH &I are pretty good at
assemblying furniture, but this time we had one little problem.  The assembly
starts with putting the "top" of the table top side down on the floor and
then you build up.  Well, at some point an extra little screw fell into one
of the holes and when we inserted the leg dowels into the holes, the screw
got pushed thru the surface of the top.  An unpleasant surprise when we got
to the "flip the table over" part.

However, we thought about ordering just a new top, while putting a piece of
packing tape over the hole.  Since the damage is usually under my cutting
mat, it has not been a problem.  Watch out for those little screws!

The table itself is great especially the flip up surface in the back.

Mary Beth
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 21:47:18 EDT
Subject: Free Motion Embroidery

When I try to free-motion embroidery (without feed dogs &foot) I get 
skipped stitches when I sew from front to back.  When I sew in the 
usual forward direction it works fine.  Any one have any suggestions 
for me?
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 1995 10:09:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: warranties

Oh, Myra, do I EVER wish it were true.  But it isn't.
     My physician-husband is training in a sub-sub-speciality; it's meant
three moves in five years.  And can I get decent treatment from small-town
Bernina dealers?  No, I cannot.
     I bought my Bernina in the SF Bay Area just before a cross-country move
and was assured, "Oh, yes, ANY dealer should help you out with lessons!"
What my salesman didn't say was that the mythical "any" dealer would want
$100 to $150 for those lessons since I didn't buy from THEM.
     I've even written to Bernina about the difficulty!  It's taken two
years in my present location for our long-time Bernina dealer to even start
a Bernina club--and THAT costs money, too.  While I can see the fairness of
charging for a sit-and-sew class, your Basic One-Hour Bernina Club "Look
What THIS Foot Can Do!" format should yield enough sales to pay its own way!
     The moral?  When I decided to replace my old Bernette 234 serger, I got
a SHOCKINGLY high quote from the Bernina dealer--AND THAT WAS ON A FORMER
DEMONSTRATER!!--so I checked out the local Pfaff outlet.  For HALF of what I
would have paid Bernina, I bought the Hobbylock 788 AND lots of extra feet
AND free instructional classes AND free "concept" classes, too.
     It was a sad day, in a way, because I'd been so proud of my all-Bernina
sewing room:  1230, serger, and even the Pro Glide Plus iron.  To quote my
husband, "Money talks, and you-know-what walks"--and the arrogant,
parochial, we-don't-want-to-know-you attitudes at these dealers have sent me
off to the competitor.
     Oh.  And Bernina USA never bothered to answer my letter, either.

Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 10:35:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Price of 1090 in FL, sewing table

That $1599 for a 1090 is about $400 better than I can do here in coastal
Maine!  Sounds like a good deal to me.  Bought a 1080 *on sale* for just
under $1000    1 1/2 years ago because I could not justify the extra $1000
(in other words a 1090 is about $2000 here!  Ulp) for the thigh lifter.
 Haven't given up hope of finding a used one, and if I can find a good price
could even spring for a new one and would kekep my 1080 as a spare.
 Unfortunately ... dealers have been warned off mail order, so my only hope
of getting a 1090 at a reasonable price is to drive an incredible distance to
another dealer ... or wait for a used mode.

I, too, have Bernina's "assemble it" table.  My DH pretends not to know one
end of a screw driver from the other, so I went at assembly alone.  It was no
pleasure, but the end result was worth it.  I keep my "flip up" up all the
time and really find the table's width quite useful.  Got the one with the
drawer and the door.  The door part is great for graph paper, big template
plastic, and "stuff" that I want to put in vertically.  Unfortunately, the
price was far higher than that mentioned yesterday.   -Addy
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 11:35:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Free Motion Embroidery

Dear Sandra:  I had my first learning experience on freemotion stitching 
(quilting) a few months ago.  For me it required a little juggling of the 
upper tension and a larger needle.  I had skipped stitches galore until I 
began using a 100 (Size 16) needle.  I was using invisible thread in the 
needle, regular poly-wrapped cotton in the bobbin and was moving mainly 
side to side.  Anyway, I'd try the large needle if you haven't already.  

Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 12:14:19 -0600
Subject: Bernina's assemble it table

I must have missed reading about this assemble it table - would someone
please re-post info about it? Have been wanting a sewing table for my
machine that has an extra wide 'side' to the left of the machine and
a fold up rear section that will help with machine quilting a large
quilt. Does anyone know where to get info on Horn tables? Our dealer
only has one model in the shop which has more than I need and isn't
too willing to discuss if Horn offers what I want - they would rather
sell me the model they have in the shop, naturally. TIA  Betty S
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:41:56 -0400
Subject: Re: All these feet!!

I have another approach to feet storage. Rather than a box, I purchased a
revolving stand made for art supplies(pencils and brushed primarily). Tha
bottom level has compartments that are just the right depth to hold my
Bernina feet (even the walking foot on its side) and I can spin the stand to
reach just the right ones. I put my scissors in the top holder, pencils and
pens in the middle ones and feet in the bottom. I really like it for my
purposes. Sue M.
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 17:54:36 -0400
Subject: needle up/down

On the Bernette 740E you press the button when you want to lower or raise the
needle. There is no way to make the needle automatically stop in either
position like it does on the Berninas. It works the same way on the Bernette
2000 sergers.

I hope that this helps - Francyne
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 19:36:04 -0400
Subject: free motion

Sandra Hwrote that when she free motion quilts she gets skipped stitches
if she is moving the quilt in one direction from front to back, but not vice
versa. I am quilting a quilt with metallic thread and having a skipping
problem but I hadn't noticed if it was related to which way I was moving. I
am thinking that maybe the stitch skips because the movement of the quilt is
pulling the thread out of the scarf of the needle, when the quilt is moving
towards you. The thread has to "hide" in the scarf to form the stitch.
Perhaps a needle with a bigger scarf would help, try a topstitching
needle.... also, Sandra you don't say whether you are using a foot at all.
You should try a darning foot first and see if that helps....

I proposed an interesting thought to my husband last night. One of the
reasons I felt safe investing so much in my 1630 was because I have read
about others having their machines for thirty years and getting their
purchase price out of them on a trade in or sale. Then I was comparing that
to money spent on computers... which do not hold their value. We have lost
money on other "real investments". So I am thinking we should just put all of
our retirement money into Berninas....

Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 22:25:54 -0500
Subject: machine prices...

I just saw somebody mention a 1090 for $1600?  I just recently got
a 1031, and their price was $1500. They mentioned the 1090 was $300 more,
so $1600 sounds like a good price to me. I offered them 1400 for the
1031, and she said since she was the store owner, and didnt have to
pay a comission to herself, she could sell it for $1429. I took it. The
more I use the machine, the more pleased I am with it. This is their least
expensive machine with both the knee lift and DC motor (which also means
needle up/down control).

I also recently got the 2000DCE, and it was $1700. I am having the same
experience with it, the more I use it, the better I like it.

Oh, I had a real shock last nite! I was fiddleing around with patterns
or something, when my serger started running by itself!  I was really
hyped until I saw that our cat was lying over the pedal!

Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 13:04:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Free Motion Embroidery

Since you do not have a foot on, you need to put the fabric in a hoop. You
really should try free motion work with a darning foot. I have made a video
on Machine Embroidery and Beading by Machine. Let me know if I can be of any
other help. Pat R
Subject: Re: Sew and Go tables
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 95 10:46:08 EDT

	I purchased a sewing machine table from Nancy's Notions for my
1030 a few months back.  It's fairly drawers/doors/etc....
it's just four steel tube legs and a flat formica-type surface. 
There are two parts to the flat surface; the machine rests on one, and the
other is hinged and has a cut out for the sewing machine arm, so that you 
can swing it up to get a flat bed, or swing it down for the free arm.  The
swing top is really nice; I like it a lot better than snapping that 
flat bed piece on and off.  There are a few minor problems with it; you
need to swing the top up to get at the bobbin (this is very annoying when
using the walking foot, since the back of the foot gets in the way of 
the end up having to take the foot off in order to change the
bobbin).  The cutout also seems slightly mis-positioned wrt to using the
knee lifter; it seems to me that the machine is set back on the table 
about 1/2 inch too much, and the knee lifter isn't pushed into the machine
as much as it should be.  This is just a gut-feel on my part...the knee
lifter hasn't fallen out on me yet, and the lifter works fine.
	All in all, I'm quite satisfied with the table.  I believe it
ended up costing under $100, since you automatically get the 25-30% discount
from Nancy (I've lost my big NN catalog, so I can't be specific here). 
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 20:27:54 -0400
Subject: our cat...

I do hope dave, you understand that your cat was doing a superlative job
doing its cat ordained duty of holding everything down so it doesn't
annoyingly float to the ceiling!

Aren't cats great!  If only they weren't trying so hard not to be furry!

Mary Beth<--who sends thanks to all for the ideas re foot storage.  I knew
there'd be lots of ideas
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 20:39:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Club/Bernina prices

I bought my Bernina 1090 in Columbus, Ohio and have Bernia Club privleges for
3 years which entitled me to lessons once a month on techniques and the use
of the differnt feet.  It was $1599 in August of 1993.  This past April I was
able to upgrade by trading in the 1090 for a 1260 and paid an addtional $500.
 My status in the Bernina Club started over at that point.  I also receive
guide lessons from an excellent teacher, free of charge.

I also joined a Bernia Club in Mt. Vernon, Ohio, at a quilt shop.  Since I
did not purchase my machine from that shop they asked for a $25 fee for 12
months.  The owner also could not offer me the same deal on the 1260 with a
trade in because she did not earn the intial profit on my 1090.  She wanted
an addtional $500 to trade up to the 1260.

I really like both machines.  I became a much better quilter once I started
using a Bernina.  It the memory feature on the 1260 that caught my attention.
It comes in handy when machine appliquing and machine quilting.  I also tried
the "quilting" stitch that can be made from the feather stitch (#16) and like
that as well.

This is my first week on the Bernina bulletin board and I must say it is
enjoyable and informative!

Date: Sun,  9 Jul 95 18:58:37 PDT
Subject: Knee Lifter/Sewing Table

Susan:  RED ALERT!

If you do not engage the knee lifter (in Europe I'm told they call it the
third arm) completely, it will strip the metal casing it sslips into in no
time at all.  Repairs are costly.
The Bernina mechanic where I taught classes a few years ago was excellent 
about teaching us all the mechanics, but lousy at the application stuff.
People would bring in their third arms to be re-bent all the time.  It can
be done, but only to a point.  You may be interested to know that Bernina
makes different size and depth third arms.  Lots of them (longer, shorter,
etc). He had a bunch at his shop so he could help customers with their sewing
I bought my modified "u" shaped table on a close out sale, for $200 ($450 new).
I knew it was not perfect when I got it, but it was so nice to have a solid 
and sturdy place for my serger and Bernina.  I also bought one of those tables
like you bought from Nancy's Notions, from my mechanic, fon sale for a bout $45.
My 830 works perfectly, third arm and all, on it.  That's my daughter's machine.
Your "knee-lifter" may just need a minor adjustment, so just take it to a good
Bernina mechanic, and they will be able to help you.

I have a beautiful Oak cutting table, high, drop leaves, drawers, WONDERFUL!, so
I was not interested in the Sew-And_Go table at the time, although it looks ideal
design wise.

From Jill, just home from my office job, sewing custom patches for mmy DH which 
he designed today.
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:11 WET
Subject: Re: tune-ups

I was wondering if anybody could tell me how often they get a tune -up on 
their machine.  I have had my 1130 for 4 years now, and it has never been in 
the shop.  I do oil and clean it regularly.  I usually sew about 20 hours a 
week.  I hate to be without it, but we have some company coming, and my 
sewing room will be turned into a hotel room.  I'm thinking that this would 
be a good time to get it done.  What does everyone think?
Laura B
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 07:01:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Sew &Go Tables

Please send me the address and phone number to Nancy's notions.  Thank you
Subject: Bernina University
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:07:43 EDT

For those who will be in the Boston area at the end of October, our
local Bernina dealer (Ann's Fabrics of Canton/Woburn) will be sponsering
the Bernina University for Consumer's.  It's going to be Oct. 27-29 at
a hotel to be announced.  That's all the info I currently have.  If you
want to get on a mailing list for information, call Ann's at
617-933-2201 or (617? 508?)-828-2201.

Mary Lou F
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 08:52:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Decisions Decisions

Pam, I purchased my 1230 for machine quilting..........a hobby I have taken up
and plan to keep going AFTER retirement.....I don't know when that will be!

I am well pleased with my 1230 and the ease in stitching. With the knee press
that releases the presser-foot, I have both hands free to hold the fabric as
I stitch along. I have even done a few small projects-------testing the
different things I can do on the machine and the ease of handling the fabric
as you "create" is marvelous. I especially like the built-in lettering you can
also do.

I know they are expensive, but you will be making an "investment" (that's what
I called my "IRA", since I couldn't qualify to get one for the past 5 years). I
know you will be prefectly happy with the 1230. I even bought a cabinet for
mine several months ago so I wouldn't have to keep setting the machine up on
the table. I was used to a cabinet with my old Golden-Touch/Sew Singer (that I
gave to one of my daughters). I can still take the machine with me, if I want
to, but I really prefer leaving it in the cabinet.

If you are really s-e-r-i-o-u-s about your sewing, you will not even bat an eye
at the price of the 1230.........expensive, but if you enjoy what you are doing,
aren't you worth it?

Good luck on the decision you make. I put a lot of thought into my decision and
I have NEVER been disappointed in the 1230!
Pat Y. 
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:04:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Service

Hi... I live in Laytonsville, outside of Gaithersburg, MD.  I recently took
my Bernina to be cleaned, etc. in Mt. Airy at the Sew N' Vac.  They did a
tremendous job for a small amount. (About $30 I think).  My machine works
better than it did when I first got it because I never did think it was sewed
perfectly.  I had already taken it to G Street once before and was Terribly
disappointed.  The turnaround time was also fantastic in Mt. Airy.  It is in
the shopping center on the right on the main road which bypasses Mt. Airy.
Let me know if you use them.  Jill R.
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:21:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: New Bernina Owner; New to Club; Questions

Hi everybody,

I'm new to the club; just bought my Bernina 1090 last week. Now, I have a
few questions about thread when machine quilting.  I'm sure this has been
asked/answered to death, and i'm sure this won't be the last time it :)

1. What's the best brand and/or weight thread (top thread) to use when doing 
   regular machine quilting. Should the same thread be used in the bobbin?

2. If using monofilament thread, what thread should I use in the bobbin?

3. What about metallic thread? Can I use it in the top and in the bobbin?
   If not, what should I use in the bobbin?

4. About tension, what have you found to look best? Or, is the default
   setting OK?

5.  Stitch width.  I have a machine quilting book that says you should get
    about 10-11 stitches to a inch for machine quilting. But what about the

I'm sure this is only the beginning of many questions.

Thank you.

Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:16:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Sew &Go Tables

  > Please send me the address and phone number to Nancy's notions.  Thank you

Nancy's notions, 1-800-833-0690
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 12:32:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: tune ups

Dear Laura:  I'll bet you get a wide variety of comments/opinions on how 
often to have a sewing machine serviced.  I'll go out on a limb and say 
that I never get my machine tuned up as such.  I clean and occasionally oil.
The machine has only been into the shop twice in more than 12 years.  
Once, the foot pedal needed a new part--something to do with the speed.  
I lost the low part of the range of speeds.  The other time I was having 
trouble with "sewing on air" as you do when chain piecing.  The dealer 
adjusted it for free--I think it was the bobbin tension only.  The 
machine, an 801, continues to run quietly and steadily.  I don't sew as 
many hours per week as you do, but I always have something in the works.
I make all my own blouses, skirts, slacks, and jackets as well as piece 
quilt tops, and mend.  I don't know if my dealer would perform all 
servicing free, but he's pretty generous to his customers.
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:12:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bernina Club/Bernina Prices

The Bernina dealer here in the northern Baltimore suburbs charges $100 
for Bernina club if you didn't buy from her.

Subject: Re:Two Things
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:05:56 -0500

Dear Bernina Lovers,

I have done the Free motiom quilting and I had beautiful results, with 
cotton thread in the bobbin and metallic thread on top. I found that it was 
a good idea to push the 1/2 speed button on my 1080 and go a little slower.
Hope that helps...

My other thing was about the shops I found when buying my machine. I went 
to a small town and the price was $400,00 less at a shop that was dealer 
owned and they offered lessons, but that was all:> It also would not have 
been more than an hour from my home... well maybe a little more depends on 
the petal to the metal and the tractors I would have had to go round:> And 
like my shop here in the Denver area they had a Bernina Club that met once 
every two months (The one in town is every month) any way it still cost $.
The Price is $25.00 a year, after your first free year, when you buy a 
machine:> The club is very informative and show and tell keeps you coming 
back for the next month! WHEW! I think I said too much:>

Happy Sewing,
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 08:32:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Club/Bernina Prices

Dear Connie,

     Please explain to me how you do this "quilt stitch" with the #16
feather stitch?  Thanks...Jacqueline F
Subject: Re: New Bernina Owner; New to Cl

Hi Vivian,

We all had to start sometime and I've probably asked some of the same
questions as you at some point.  Welcome to Bernina Club and I hope you will
enjoy your new machine and the group.  I've answered your questions as I
handle each situation, but I may learn something new when I read other
responses, which is great!

>> 1. What's the best brand and/or weight thread (top thread) to use when
doing regular machine quilting. Should the same thread be used in the bobbin?

I use Mettler silk-finish cotton thread top and bobbin if a colored thread is

>> 2. If using monofilament thread, what thread should I use in the bobbin?

I use Mettler silk-finish cotton thread in the bobbin.

>> 3. What about metallic thread? Can I use it in the top and in the bobbin?
  If not, what should I use in the bobbin? <<

I use metallic thread on top but not in the bobbin.  It has been my
experience that when using metallics in the bobbin case, they have a tendency
to catch on the bobbin case and peel/flake/chip.  Maybe others have had
better luck.  I always use Mettler silk-finish cotton in the bobbin. (On a
rare occasion I have used monofilament in the bobbin also.)

>> 4. About tension, what have you found to look best? Or, is the default
setting OK? <<

I have found the standard tension to be okay if I'm using the same threads on
the top and bobbin.  If using a monofilament, metallic or different thread
colors, you may want to lower your top tension to approximately 3.  You are
basically trying to achieve a balanced looking stitch without having the
bobbin thread pulling to the top.

>> 5.  Stitch width.  I have a machine quilting book that says you should get
about 10-11 stitches to a inch for machine quilting. But what about the
width? <<

You should have a stitch width of "0" unless you are doing a decorative

Hope this helps,
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:53:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Demographics- Wearable art

Will you please post the path for the wearable arts group.  I tried once to
subscribe but had something incorrect in my address.
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 95 10:24:22 EDT
Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions

I know the 1230 is marvelous, but if I were buying, I'd buy the 1260.  The
buttonhole "sides" are both sewn in the same direction, which is more
accurate.  Other then that, I'm told it is pretty much the same as a 1230
but a little improved.

Ruth B
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 08:52:33 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Re: Bernina Club/Bernina Prices

In regards to Bernina Club, the Bernina Center charges
$30/year, 10% discount with membership card and $2 fee for each attended
meeting.  At the meeting, you throw your reminder notice into a box for
the meeting's draw to win a Bernina item.  The Center also offers a
'Punch' card bordered with blocks of $10.  Whenever you buy an item,
they'll punch out each $10.  Only drawback:  If you buy something that
costs close to but not reaching $20, only one $10 is punched out
>grrrrrrowl<.  They have display items that are worth 1 to 5 completed
punched cards. 

I've attended only one meeting. The instructor used a 1260 (wonderful
machine).  At the first, I was very impressed with her machine quilting
stitches.  Duhhhh!  It was only after a delayed time (week?) that I
realized she did not cover ALL the models when she gave her demonstration. 
Hand-outs with this information should have been given. Further, she spent
all of 10 minutes on her demonstration and that was towards the end of the

I felt the meeting centered more on sales of Bernina sergers and
embroidery machines instead of sewing techniques.  Then I realized that
the members were all seasoned seamstresses and VERY senior.  Moreover,
most had Bernina sergers and about 1/2 of these ladies had purchased an
embroidery machine (salivate).  Their Show 'n Tell was >gasp< awesome. 
These Japanese ladies can sure sew.

This meeting was a day meeting.  I think the evening meeting would be 
more to my liking (working ladies and more of a mixed plate), and the 
demonstration might center more on sewing techniques (hope, hope).

Before I hang up, I just read my Limited Warranty Card.  In regards to 
plug/unplug discussion:  #4.  "The sewing machine must be unplugged 
from the power source when not in use."

Captivated by my new machine,

Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 18:06:24 -0400
Subject: Thread for Machine Quilting

In response to Vivian's question ... many quilters seem to prefer a
monofilament 'type' thread in the bobbin when machine quilting.  Nylon
monofilament, however, may melt.  Some machine quilters prefer Sulky's
Invisible Polyester thread (available in smoke and clear) because it can take
some heat.  Also, though it feels to the hand the same as the nylon
monofilament, it may be less likely to loop and snarl than the nylon
monofilament.   All-cotton sewing thread is popular for the "top" thread;
Metrosene (Mettler) claims that its all-cotton quilting thread can be used
for machine quilting, too.   Hope this helps.  --Addy
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 18:20:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/10/95

Martha- wow that is a lot of money for Bernina Club.  Our Bernina Club hasn't
started yet, probably this fall.  I hope she doesn't charge that much.  
Is anyone going to Bernina U. this weekend?  
Wonder if there will be any news of a new machine.  
Better yet, maybe they will fix the 1630?

Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 23:10:01 -0400
Subject: silly me

I bought a walking foot for my 1630 this spring. Last month I was piecing a
quilt and needed the capabilities of the walking foot because I was doing a
variation of bargello, and had a lot of cross seams. Well, I couldn't figure
out the 1/4 seam, (the 1630 walking foot is very wide) and I just couldn't
get I switched back to my Pfaff for the duration of the piecing.
Tonight I was putting on the binding, and came across two things. First I
took out my Bernina notebook, which  is one of those 5x8 inch jobbies. I
stuck the first blank page under the walking foot, lining up the edge of the
page with the edge of the foot. Then I tried various stitch widths. I then
had a permanent record already in my notebook of all the needle settings. I
figured out one setting, and started using that. And then, lo and behold, I
noticed that there are little grooves carved into the front toes of the foot
at 1/4 away from the center of the needle....and then I noticed the little
grooves 1/4 in front of the needle.....didn't see one behind it though...

I happily sewed on my binding, thinking myself pretty stupid. So of course I
had to share that with all of you, in case you hadn't noticed those

I still would like a foot that is the exact reverse of the #10 foot so I
could lean fabric up against it.....

Also, I notice there is a consumer Bernina U going on somewhere, is there one
in Chicago? I know Bernina U is coming for the dealer. Do they have to tell
me about it? 

And another thing. I taught a machine quilting class at a quilt shop last
Saturday, so my students brought their own machines. One student had an
Esante. We could not figure out how to drop the feed dogs, so we set the
stitch length as low as it could go. The Esante is completely digital. We
could not get it below .4 .... then when we had to lower the upper tension,
that was digital too, and it turned out we were going the wrong way. I
stopped at my dealer, who also sells Esantes, and they showed me how to fix
the problem. The feed dog needs an attachment that comes with the machine,
and it is explained in an addendum. So I urge you all to bring your entire
owner's manual to any class you take. The dealer told me this was why they
LIKE people to use store models during sewing classes. This of course did not
apply in my case, as I was teaching at a quilting shop, not a machine

Have a good week.

Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:09:52 -0400
Subject: tune-up time

If you sew 20 hours a week or more, you should be getting your machine
serviced once a year but definitely every other year if you don't sew as
much. Sounds like this would be a good time to have a clean, oil, and adjust
while you have houseguests.

Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:07:38 -0400
Subject: Wearable Art

To subscribe to the Wearable Art mailing list send your request to:

In the body of the message type: SUBSCRIBE WEARABLE

I hope that you enjoy it - Francyne
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:24:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: tune ups

On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Bernina wrote:

> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:11 WET
> Subject: Re: tune-ups
> I was wondering if anybody could tell me how often they get a tune -up on 
> their machine.  I have had my 1130 for 4 years now, and it has never been in 
> the shop.  I do oil and clean it regularly. 

	I would suggest that you try to have it serviced about once a 
year.  One of my computer cusotmers is a Bernina dealer, and while 
shooting the breeze he told me that even though you may clean and oil the 
machine almost as well as he could, people have a tendancy to miss the 
same spot every time.  This could lead to one area having problems over 
time.  The dealer would catch this problem before it could become an 
expensive problem. 
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:17:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Club

I have a really wonderful dealer that does not charge anything for Bernina
Club, even if you did not buy your machine at her shop. She is obviously
smart enough to know that if you come in for that, you will probably buy
fabric, a new foot, something. And if you aren't there, you can't buy
anything. I chose her over another area dealer whose commercial greed exceeds
good sense. The dealer I did not choose not only charges for Bernina Club but
charges for the lessons you get with your machine and then gives you a
merchandise credit for that amount. This may sound like, oh, this isn't
really costing me anything, but yes, it is, if you weren't planning to spend
that money in her shop. I avoid her shop like the plague except when I need
service on the machines that I already bought from her (2 of them--a Pfaff
and a Bernina 2000DE). But I will never buy another machine there. Don't
suggest that she be reported to Bernina, because she has been and Bernina
continues to deal with her because she sells so many machines.

Mary M
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:15:09 PDT
Subject: re: Bernina Digest 7/10/95

I joined the Bernina Club with my dealer and never got anything.  I get 
the list of classes, but most of the interesting ones are in the daytime. 
For those of us who like a paycheck each month that is impossible.  I 
thought I was supposed to get this neat magazine that he showed me.  He 
let me have an outdated one from a desk, but I've never gotten another 
one.  In California the cost was 30+ dollars for the club.  I plan on 
seeing my dealer at the Orange County Fair and will ask him about the club 
and if there are magazines.  I also thought I would be contacted about my 
membership, something like newsletters, etc., but that has never happened.

Enough soapbox.  I got my machine last year and have enjoyed it.  I bought 
the model just under all the computer linked ones.  Paid $1,009.00 for it. 
It has the needle down setting and lots of different stitches. It comes 
with a canvas carrying case, which is great to not have the extra weight 
when I take it to a class.  I have my old Viking case if I ever decide to 
take it anywhere that it needs protection.  

I have a degree in Home Economics and have used plenty of machines, but 
find that the quality and consistency of these machines is fantastic.  I 
like the "little foot" for quilting, as I sometimes get distracted and 
don't watch as closely what I'm doing and that little foot and the 
magnetic seam guide keep that material right in place.  

What exactly comes with the Bernina Club?

Goodbye from CA...hope to hear from some of you.

Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 06:38:11 EDT
Subject: Re: Tune ups

in re: tune ups, does anyone know what part of the cleaning/oiling we
Bernina owners usually miss?  I know there is only one spot Bernina
recommends oiling on the 1630.  What is the latest opinion on using canned
air, tiny vaccuum attachments, and a brush?  I know that the better we
maintain our Berninas, the less trouble we'll have.  Thanks.

Ruth B
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 95 23:59:36 PDT
Subject: RE: Bernina Digest 7/11/95

Roni, you mentioned something about a new machine or "fix the 1630".  I know I live far out 
(Alaska) but I have never heard of any problems with the 1630.  Please enlighten me??? 
Also since I have joined (one week)  I keep hearing about a Bernina Club and $100.00 fees 
for lessons, etc.  if you go to another store that you have not purchased your machine from, etc. 
 Sorry, I'm clueless could someone/anyone please explain---does this mean when you buy a 
machine from a store they are to give you lessons???If so, how many or how long??? A group 
of us were talking about this and have bought our machines from the same dealer and we have 
never heard of any Bernina Club or lessons.  Again, Thanks----karen 
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 08:16:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/10/95


    One thing puzzled me "magnetic seam guage".    You didn't mention 
which machine you own.  If you have a computerized machine, the magnetic 
seam guage is not a good idea and neither is the magnetic rack that 
stacks bobbins.  A pin holder is okey because it is not near the actual 
boards of your Bernina.  If your machine is machinal then disregard all 
the above.  I got this info from a Bernina mechanic.
    Hope you have a great day.........
                              Jacque F
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 08:18:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Tune ups

Good point! I just cleaned/oiled mine last week. I brush under the feed-dogs
and remove all the lint from attachments, casings, needle, etc. I oil where
recommended with my 1230 -- which also has only one spot recommended.

Let "us" all know the "missing spot"!

Thanks from Pat Y.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:43:27 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Tune ups, seam allowances

I am a new Bernina owner, and new to the list as well. I had my first 
class last night. Our teacher said that it is generally a bad idea to use 
forced air (ie air compressor, blowing etc) to remove lint and fuzz from 
the machine for two reasons. First, the compressed air system often has 
contaminants which may be bad for the metal; second, you may blow the 
lint further into the machine rather than out of the machine; and third, 
if you blow to remove dust and lint, you are blowing extra moisture into 
the workings of the machine at a place where you are trying to keep 
moisture out. She said that if you do use compressed air, blow from back 
to front, but she recommends using the nylon brush.

I have a question for you all. Please excuse me if it has been covered 
before (are there archives available?). I am wondering how everyone 
maintains a 1/4 inch seam allowance. On my machine (1080) it is possible 
to use the needle position and the 0 foot to sew the correct width. Is 
there a foot that is your favorite to use? Does anyone like the "Little 
Foot" by Lynn Graves better than the ones available from Bernina? 

Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:48:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/10/95
I noticed that you mentioned the O.C. fair in your message... so I am 
wondering who your dealer is?   I've been to Mels in Anaheim on Euclid 
and was a Bernina Club member there for a awhile.  We moved to long Beach 
about five years ago, and I found another dealer in Los Alamitos that I 
like much better.  He does not have a "Bernina Club" but has a "Sewing Club"
and "Serger Club" that has a dynamic teacher. The techniques she 
demonstrates can be utilized for all brands and are not nessecarily 
"Foot" related. (The sales pressure is not there.) I felt Mel's was VERY 
sales "pressure-ey".  I don't like that environment.  I am interested in 
hearing your experience.
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:03 CST
Subject: Re[2]: Tune ups

     I've been told by Bernina dealer that canned air is 
     not good because it will blow lint into places that 
     are hard to reach and will eventually cause problems.  
     She did highly recommend the vacuum attachments tho.
     She mentioned that repairmen have reported that many 
     sergers have been ruined because their owners used 
     canned and forced lint into places that jammed up the 
     motor.  It made sense to me--I've put away the canned 
     air and brought out the vacuum attachments!
     Good luck!
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:20:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Tune ups

My Bernina Guide for my 801 model gives directions for oiling only the 
shuttle race and hook.  As to canned air--my dealers, husband and wife--
differ in their opinions.  SHE says do it if you like it--HE says don't 
because the jet of air might drive lint in deeper.  I think regular lint 
removal is good, but lots of oil is not necessary and may be harmful.  The 
race needs only a light film.  Myra
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 17:53:13 -0500
Subject: When to get cleaned

After I had had my 1130 for several years without having it cleaned or oiled
(except what I do regularly myself) I asked my dealer if and when I should
take it in for a checkup.  She said, If you aren't having any trouble with
it, don't bother.  Well, a few months later the machine froze completely.
Stopped dead.  I took it in, and was told that it should have been cleaned
and oiled regularly (same dealer).  Now I take it in every year, but I drive
to another dealer 40 miles away who I think I can trust a little more!

Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 18:54:11 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/12/95

Is anyone here going to Bernina U this weekend?  My dealer is.  If you happen
to meet Ginny and Dennis Murphy from Danbury Ct.  please introduce yourself
 .  They know all about this group.  

Date: 13 Jul 95 20:26:03 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Club

Hi All,
     I have been a Bernina Club member at my local store for six years.  The
cost has gone from $25.00 to $40.00 per year.  We meet once a month October
through May and they repeat the month's program on Tuesday night, Wednesday
morning, Wed. afternoon, and Wed. evening.  Next year they also plan to offer
Tuesday afternoon as the classes have gotten so large.  We get a schedule of
what will be demonstrated each month.  There is a drawing each time. An
instruction sheet and newsletter given out.  In May we have a lovely banquet
with lots of giveaways and perfect attendance gifts.  A kit is offered if you
want to do the project and any feet or attachments featured are discounted.
     I would love to hear what other Bernina clubs are doing and maybe swap
instruction sheets.  Anyone interested?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 21:10:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Tune Ups


I do not recommend the canned air, because I saw a video that explains 
that the canned air can freeze, cold tro this mechanicxal parts is not 
good, the oil she recommend a vacum cleaner, and Nancy's have the adapter 
for the big vaccums. I think is better the suction than throw inside.

Love you all!!

Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 06:50:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest/fix the 1630

There have been a lot of complaints about the 1630, but IMHO most of them are
groundless.  Recently I have been working on 2 projects  a double nine patch
quilt top and a teddy bear.  I have been able to go between the two with NO
If I could change anything I would include different embroidery
designs....there's not much I can do with a house and airplane
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 08:19:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/10/95

Karen, when I purchased my 1230 from the Clothesline in Dayton, VA I was
told that Bernina would NOT stand behind the warranty unless I had the 5
required lessons on the machine operation, care and applications. I had my
5 lessons on a Saturday from 9-3, since I work. It was well worth my time
to attend. I have sewed for over 30+ years, but the Bernina was far more
"advanced" than my old Singer Golden Touch/Sew. The lessons were free and a
part of the warranty clause.

Hope this helps you.  Alaska, huh? I sort of wish I was there right now
since our heat-index is expected to be between 105-110 today and 115 to-

Pat Y.
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 08:22:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Tune ups, seam allowances

Hi, Jackie: I use the #37 foot (I quilt) and I get excellent results on
1/4" seams. Often you can get "used" ones from your Bernina dealer.
Pat Y.
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:31:37 EDT
Subject: Re: Tune ups, seam allowances

I am very partial to the Bernina #37 foot for 1/4" seams.

Ruth B
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 09:38:45 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest/ fix the 1630

I too would like different embrod. designs on the 1630.  Wouldn't it be
nice to have a lot of satin stitch designs?  There is no reason why this
machine shouldn't have more sophisticated designs.  Those simple line
designs are a laugh.

Ruth B
Subject: various

I keep a few watercolor paint brushes in my sewing area. Every other time I
replace an empty bobbin, I remove the stitch plate and clean all the lint I
can get out with the brush. Then I remove the bobbin case and get all the
lint out that is around that. Then I clean behind the bobbin case, and
anywhere else I can reach. I also brush around in the tension slot. And
sometimes I get a bit goofy and start wiping off the whole machine. I have
been told to oil my bobbin race about every four hours of machine time. I
have also learned to listen to the machine, after a while I can tell when I
need to add a drop of oil. The metal in the bobbin race absorbs the oil, and
I can hear that the machine isn't running as smoothly. I think it's probably
about every fourth bobbin for me. When I say bobbins, what I mean is that I
am machine quilting, and I will fill a bobbin up completely and then use the
whole thing up. Cotton thread builds up lint quickly. A machine with excess
oil will collect lint faster, so you have to be careful of TOO much oiling.
Also, remember to remove the needle thread completely all the way from the
tension disks, and run the machine for a few seconds. And listen.  The needle
shouldn't be hitting on anything.

I use canned air but try to spray from back to front. I use quick sprays. My
dealer was recommending a very expensive air system at the time I bought my
serger, and showing us how to blow air out of the machine. The more expensive
system really gave a blast. 

I also keep a small vacuum cleaner meant for computers and sewing machines
plugged into the power strip next to my machine, but it doesn't have much
effect, except I can use it to clean the brush off. 

I would like to say that keeping your machine lint free and oiled should
become part of your sewing routine, just like changing to a new needle. Lint
from just a few hours use with cotton thread can build up enough to start
causing jamming problems or skipped stitches. I change the oil on my car
every three months or 3,000 miles, regularily, I think of delinting and
oiling the machine in the same way. A Mercedes running without oil is worse
than a Volkswagon with oil...

If you haven't been oiling and cleaning the lint from your machine on a
regular basis, I recommend that you take it in to your dealer for you annual
cleaning, and have them SHOW you exactly how to take care of it. My 1630 came
with a three year warrenty and during that time my dealer will clean it as
often as I want. I've had it about eight months now, and I think I will take
it in over vacation to be checked. My dealer can take it apart more than I
can, get ALL the lint out, and make sure it is running correctly before a
little problem becomes a big one.

When you buy your Bernina you should get lessons on how to operate it, and
clean it from your dealer. I believe that is a requirement that Bernina has
of it's dealers. If you are lucky enough to live in a major metropolitan area
and have several dealers, I recommend keeping the quality of the lessons and
maintenance service in mind when you buy your machine. My dealer(Libertyville
Sewing Center in Illinois) is a husband and wife team. The wife (and her
staff) give great basic lessons and even though I have been sewing for 30
years I picked up all kinds of hints. Linda also is a sewing fanatic, and
most of the clothes she wears are sewn by her. To me this means that she is
on top of the latest trends in fabric, threads and embellishments and has a
clue on what threads are best to use for what. Even though I rarely take a
class on advanced topics, I am glad she has them, because it's an indication
of her level of expertise. Rick, the husband, takes excellent care of all of
my sewing machines, and is very helpful on problems using various threads
too. Their shop is also very well stocked with fantastic quilting fabrics,
high quality fashion fabrics and pretty much every Bernina accessory in
existance. Theirs is really a "gourmet" sewing shop.

 I would think that a dealer that doesn't offer lessons probably doesn't have
the expertise to offer them, or just doesn't care, or maybe they don't sell
enough Berninas to afford to offer lessons. Why should I make an investment
with them? My 1630 is the most expensive thing I own besides my car. I am
exceedingly happy with my machine, and have recommended Libertyville Sewing
Center to other people. I know this is a dilemma for those of you who don't
live near more than one dealer, I have no solution to offer you. I guess I am
lucky. I have no affiliation with the shop, other than that I spend a lot of
time there...

Robbi E
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest/fix the 1630

You wrote: 
>I too would like different embrod. designs on the 1630.  Wouldn't it be
>nice to have a lot of satin stitch designs?  There is no reason why this
>machine shouldn't have more sophisticated designs.  Those simple line
>designs are a laugh.
I agree wholeheartedly!  They are a real disappointment.  As far as 
repairs to the 1630 are concerned....I did have to take mine in to have 
the bobbin repaired.  It came out of alignment and my needle was 
hitting the casing on the left hand side whenever I tried any zigzag 
stitching. It took a week to fix :(
Date: 14 Jul 95 13:56:50 EDT
Subject: 1/4" foot/quilting stitch


I've been in the "lurking" mode and have throughly enjoyed the comments and
information that have been shared.

RE: 1/4" foot, if you are not happy with the Bernina Patchwork foot #37, then
maybe you should try the New Home 1/4" foot.  It has the "guard" that keeps your
fabric from creeping.  You have to have the Bernina adaptor, the NH adaptor (NH
feet are snap-on) and the NH 1/4" foot.  You must adjust your needle position
one position to the right.( If you have the straight stitch throat plate on your
1630, you can't use this foot.)  It really is a wonderful tool and I keep it and
my #37 right next to my machine and interchange them.  (One draw back: If you
are pieceing quilt blocks and there is a "dog ear", like when you attach a
triangle to a square, the NH foot does not navigate that very well.

Quilting Stitch for the 1230/1260:  Feather Stitch  #16; Stitch width  0; Stitch
length 4;
Foot  #8 (the jeans foot); Balance +2; Upper tension  7.

Quilting Stitch for the 1530/1630: Feather Stitch #16; Stitch width  0; Stitch
length 4;
Foot  #8 (the jeans foot); Balance  +2V; Upper tension 7.

Happy Stitching Everyone!  Cheryl M
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 19:08:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/13/95

Hi everyone.
Ruth- I use the vacumm attachment for my Bernie.  It works great.  
Karen- I bought one of the early 1630's, it has been back to Bernina once
already for an upgrade, and I think it may be going again.  It just doesn't
work right with the keys.  Is anyone else having trouble with the quilting
 I think that the newer 1630's are better.  

For the person that asked about the 1/4 inch seam, run and get the #37 foot.
 It is the best.  better than the Little Foot by a mile.

Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 19:51:01 -0400
Subject: lessons, air, feet, etc.

Hello all! There were so many questions yesterday that I will try to answer a
bunch of them.

The lessons refer to Bernina Guide lessons which you are supposed to get when
you purchase a Bernina machine from an authorized dealer. The number and
length of the lessons will depend on the model of machine and the dealers
practice. If you want your lessons from a dealer other than the one that you
purchased from, that dealer is not obligated to give the lessons to you for
free. If it is more than 100 miles from the original dealer, you can obtain a
proof of purchase certificate which you present to the new dealer and that
dealer can collect the money for the lessons from the original dealer. I hope
that this makes sense to you.

Bernina Club is sponsored by a lot of dealers and so is Serger Club. Not all
dealers have it. It is up to the dealer. The Bernina Clubs that I have
attended at four different dealers lasted 2 hours each, were mostly
lecture/demo, and cost about $3.00. Now most dealers are charging by the year
and I attended one recently which only lasted 1 hour. It has been interesting
to read about all the Bernina Club experiences related on this list. There
seems to be quite a variety some dealer to dealer.

Bernina has told me that magnetic seam gauges, pinholders and bobbin holders
are no problem with their computerized machines. Don't try it with any other
brand however. I use all three and have never had a problem. All the circuit
boards are on the right hand side of the machine.

Use the small vacuum cleaner attachment. It pulls lint out whereas compressed
air pushes it inside where it will do harm.

For 1/4 inch seam allowance, run to your dealer and buy the #37 patchwork
foot. It is worth its weight in gold. It measures a perfect 1/4 inch and also
marks 1/4 inch in front of and 1/4 inch behind the needle position which is
essential for mitering and piecing into the corner.

Sorry that I rambled on so long but I hope that I was of some help.

Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 20:47:19 -0400
Subject: Re: quarter inch foot

There was a question as to whether the 1/4" foot is as good or better than
Lynn Graves' little foot. I had Little Foot for years and it works fine.
However, when I found out that the 1/4" (#37) foot was available, I bought it
and have never used the Little Foot since. If you don't have either, get the
#37, in my opinion.

Mary M
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 20:35:15 EDT
Subject: Free Motion Embroidery

Thanks  TRICIA, MYRA, ROBBI and PAT:  I discovered that a Jeans 
Needle worked great for the free motion embroidery I was doing.  I 
was sewing on a silky polyester fabric--detail work on sweet peas 
which were appliqued on a Texas Cloth jacket.  The sweet peas were 
slightly padded with a polyester fiber fill.  I rarely use the 
darning foot because I can't see where I am going.  I do often use 
the spring needle; however, I wasn't in this case as the fabric was 
heavy enough that it didn't jump around.  At first I was using a 
regular #70 needle so that the silky fabric wouldn't run, but then I 
was getting skipped stitches when sewing in a reverse direction.  I 
have found a new use for the Jeans Needle.
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 21:26:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Tune ups, seam allowances

I'm sure this info has made the list, but I love my #37 foot for 1/4' seams.
 Just be careful when you are sewing - I get so used to it, I forget and then
zigzag and break a needle.  Oh well.
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:54:41 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Lint Removal

Adding to Francyne's informative message on lessons, air, feet, etc.  If
you have a hand vacuum, masking tape a straw to the crevice tool and
you'll be able to vacuum nooks &crannies of your machine or serger. Buy
another crevice accessory so you'll have your creviced straw armed and 
ready at a moment's notice.

Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:01:22 -0400
Subject: Re: 1/4 seam allowance

I'm a quilter.  I find the 1/4 inch foot or "patchwork foot" #37 to be
indispensable to me!  I have never used the "little foot", however, some of
the women in a Feather Star class I took at a local quilt shop expressed that
they did not have as much control with the little foot as they did with the
#37.  My Bernina dealer also clipped my darning foot, #9, for me so that now
it is a half-circle to improve the line of vision for free-motion quilting.
She charged me $1 to do it,   It really made a difference.

Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 11:32:49 -0400
Subject: Re: #37 foot

I agree with the enthusiastic praise this foot's been getting.  It's perfect
for piecing ... the seam line is consistent, which, after all, is more
important than an exact 1/4 ".  Precise cutting is the key to great results
here ...  --Addy 
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 22:34:58 -0400
Subject: Re: seam allowances

I, too, use the #37 foot for piecing quilt blocks.  I've found it very
accurate and the notches invaluable for sewing inset corners on more
complicated designs.  Come to think of it, I can't remember when I last used
any other foot!

Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 08:00:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Free Motion Embroidery

You will love the 24 foot for free motion work and try the MICROTEX  needles
too. They work great with sliver thread by Sulky. I find the jeans needles do
not dull as quickly as universals. If you need any other tips let me know.
Pat R
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/15/95

I don't know how many of you have ever used the Throughly Modern Minis rubber
stamps for foundation piece quilting, but their maker, Julie Johnston is very
sick in the hospital.  She could use your prayers and good wishes right now.
Her address is;
Harrison Memorial Hospital
2520 Cherry Ave.
Bremerton, WA 98310-4270

Has anyone heard of a way to communicate with Bernina of America on the
Internet?  I heard from somewhere that you could.

Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 10:20:11 MST
Subject: Re: Free Motion Embroidery

Hi Pat....just the bronze done yet?????
Subject: Bernina Digest 7/13/95

Dear Bernina Fans,

My dealership concurs on the nylon brush, from an arts supply store.

And I like the idea of trading Bernina club news if it's alright with the 
dealers it sounds like a  lot of fun for us in the bernina fan club:>

Happy sewing all,
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 07:53:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Quilt piecing question

I have a great urge to try making a quilt.  When piecing the quilt top, 
should I use the highly talked about 1/4" (#37) foot or the "walking" foot?
I am assuming I should use the walking foot (and lots of pins) for 
assembling the layers &the machine quilting part of the quilt. Any other 
helpful hints? Does the walking foot help greatly in preventing shifting 
of the layers?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 08:20:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Seam allowances

Hi Nancy! I have a daughter that lives in Forest Grove OR. We were out there
last summer...........couldn't go this year! We go every other year and she
usually comes here, but since they moved to Forest Grove (from Hillsboro),
they couldn't make the trip.

Just had to say "Hi" from Harrisonburg, VA. Pat Y.
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 00:29:49 EST
Subject: RE: 1130, tune up, etc...

Hi Friends!
I promised that one day I would tell you how I came to be a Bernina Owner!
Well, I had started with a very old Singer treadle machine at a young age as
MOM thought I should know how to sew if I did'nt want to wear hand-me-downs
the rest of my life. As years went on I upgraded my Singer to a 301 slant
needle which was okay. It sewed many lovely clothes and gowns. My live-in 
at that time thought it would be nice to trade in my machine and got me an
Athena 2000 (without my knowledge). That is where the nightmare started. I
had skipped stitch and varied length stitches on top stitching on a suit
jacket and they fixed the machine??! I was doing enbroidery on a white double
knit and the machine ate my material and they fixed the machine (a motor this
time)?? It really was a cranky machine and several motors, parts, and trips
back to the dealer, I asked him if he would replace it and got a firm NO! So
I asked him if you would take it as a trade  in on another machine so he said
$300. (Mind you the machine was only 4 months only and cost over $1,000.) I
told him politely what he could do with his $300 and wrote a very lengthy
letter to singer which never got answered. I still have the machine in a $450
pine cabinet, never tried to sew on it again. I was taking lessons at Strech
'n Sew and contemplating being a teacher for them and also the Rutherford
Adult School. I was told that since they sell Bernina I would have to buy one
to do my demonstations and sewing on. That was no problem, I was hooked from
sewing on them at the store. Entered my 830. It has been the greated machine I
ever owned. It is always open (except for when I lugged it to homes for 
in-house classes, adult school for classes, etc.). A few (can't remember how
long) back my DH bought me the 1130 since it could do more and had some of
the nice additions I thought I would like. My dealer is several hours away
so I never took the classes and there are no dealers in my vacinity. (Stretch
'n Sew closed due to a job transfer for the husband).  They offered $300 for
my 830 and I decided to keep it. I had some rush jobs to do (make curtains for
the cat cages for a particular theme of the show were showing our cats in),
repairs, hemming pants, etc. I felt more comfortable doing rush jobs on a 
familiar machine. The 1130 is still in the case at the top of the stairs and
reading all you posts has me reading the booklet and ready to get it in
motion. Question...What will my problems be after it sitting so long and not
being oiled or run? It is still new! Shows, we can get in ruts.

Any help will be appreciated. A confirmed BERNINA owner who has wanted to go
to Bernina U when she was working for a dealer, but could not get out of my
full time job to go. Now I have time and need to know how and where I can go.

Thanks for all the wonderful helpful hints you post.

Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 07:15:41 -0600
Subject: Bernina feet

In answer to your question about quilting.  The 1/4 inch (#37) foot is
ideal for sewing together small quilt pieces.  The 1/4 inch markings in the
front and back of the foot are also helpful for setting in corners.
If, however, you are doing strip quilting, which includes sewing together
long strips and then cutting them up, you will find that using the walking
foot will help you prevent winding up with one strip shorter than the
other.  The walking foot also has a line to indicate a 1/4 inch seam but is
not quite as precise as the #37 foot.  The walking foot is essential for
sewing they layered quilt top, batting and quilt back without the layers
shifting.  Don't forget to pin, pin, pin the layers together first.
Harriet Hargrave's new machine quilting book is a wonderful reference.  I
must own every machine quilting book published and it is my favorite.
Wishing you the joy I have found over the years in quilting for loved ones,
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 10:40:00 UTC
Subject: #37 foot

I just love the #37 foot. My husband bought me a 1090 this past Christmas
and I just love it! Before I got my bernina, I used the little foot. It is
OK, but you have much more control and better accuracy with the #37 foot. It
is heavier and holds the fabric in place. Also, if you use the straight
stitch throat plate, it has a line for the 1/4" seam that is longer than the
one on the zig zag plate. It really helps a lot.
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:10:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Quilt Piecing Question

Hi, T. Casteel
I'm Pat Yarber. I just started quilting (seriously) a few years ago. I had
started a quilt for my oldest daughter when she was only 3, however, I never
did get it finished until her 10th WEDDING ANNIVERSARY!!!! I discovered that
I enjoyed it so much that I started another, hand embroidered double wedding
ring---done in sections. I also pieced the blocks by hand and quilted it by
hand also. This one took me 3 years from start to finish. 

I decided I liked doing it so well, I went and bought my Bernina 1230 for
when I retire...........who knows when! But I have done 2 more tops, piecing
on the machine but quilting by hand. I have found much pleasure in the #37
foot-----perfect 1/4" seams every time. It is very accurate for piecing. I
NEVER use pins...........the pieces are so small and I'm always afraid of
breaking a needle! I have bought many books "How To's" for machine quilting,
piecing, rotary cutting, etc. and have found them quite useful.

I do not like machine quilted quilts, since they are less valuable than the
hand-quilted ones. There are some that turn out quite beautiful, but to me
it's not like the "old-fashioned" way. My husbands grandmother got me in-
terested in quilts right after we married (many years ago) and I just have a
real appreciation for hand-done ones.

Hope this helps! Pat Y.
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 11:46:08 -0400
Subject: quiltmaking

Theresa asked about quiltmaking for the first time.
She mentioned pinning a lot. I don't pin. I press my seams so that they
"butt" in opposite directions, and let the machine jam the intersections
together. I hate pinning, so I avoid it. I have broken my Pfaff by sewing
over a pin, and even though some people say you can leave pins in if you go
slow, I have noticed that the pin causes a little "detour" in the straight
line of the seam. Of course on curved seams you have to pin. But then I
wouldn't advise you to start with a curved seam on your first quilt...

 I have a 1630. I don't use the patchwork foot for piecing straight seams. I
use the #1 foot and decenter the needle. I prefer this method for several
reasons, first the 1/4 inch foot doesn't match my feed dogs, so I don't feel
it feeds as smoothly. Secondly, I use a "scant" quarter inch seam, to allow
for the thickness of the fabric once I have sewn the seam. The 1/4 foot is
exactly 1/4 inch. 

Robbi E
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 10:28:23 MDT
Subject: Re: 1130, Tune Up, Etc.

I'm not sure if you'll have problems or not - depends on how long it sat I
guess. May want to check with a dealer (or possibly dealers to be sure you
get the same answer).  I also have an 1130 and can't believe that you let it
sit for any length of time.  I've had mine for approximately 5 years and I
found it extremely easy to operate - may take a little practicing to use the
fancier stitches but initially I never had an problems figuring it out.
I've since belonged to a Bernina  Club and learned some interesting techniques.
Subject: Re: Free Motion Embroidery

YES !!!!Floral Fantasies of Autumn is going to be photograghed tommorrow. I
talked one of my students into modeling it for me. I will send you a photo as
soon as I get them back. Pat
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 20:32:58 -0400
Subject: Machine Embroidery

Does anyone know anything about the "Amazing Trace" embroidery attachment
that works with all zig zag sewing machines? The ads make it look as though
it is a way to bypass the expense of a new machine to do embroidery, but I
wonder if it works as well as advertised -- can you REALLY produce
professional looking embroidery, or is this hype?

How about "free machine" embroidery -- is this a way to reproduce designs
like the new fancy machines make?

Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 20:36:17 -0400
Subject: Quilt Piecing Question

Hi, Terri --

It sounds to me like you have the answers to your own questions. The 1/4 foot
is for piecing the quilt top, and the walking foot is for preventing shifting
while assembling the quilt "sandwich". (That, and a whole slew of pins). I
have not experienced puckering on the back when using a walking foot.

What I am wondering is if anyone has used that new "gun" that shoots plastic
into the quilt like you see on RTW price tags that are attached to garments.
Looks easier than opening and closing countless safety pins -- does it work?

Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 21:31:45 -0400
Subject: 1/4 seams

Sorry I'm a little late chiming in on this, but I was away at Quilt Camp
(Vermont Quilt Festival) -- winging a LOT of fabric thru my 'nina!  My Mom &
I started a lone star quilt Friday at VQF and knew that step one was the
"calibrating our 1/4" seams".  I knew I had more options so SHE sewed a 1/4"
seam and then I tried to match it.  My normal set up -- #1 foot and needle
moved one to the right was several thread too deep.  I then tried the open
toe embroidery foot with the needle moved one to the right and was right on
her seam line.  That was perfect for us.  Later we worked on another project
and we had measurements to check (this piece should measure 7 1/2" when
complete) and both of ours did.  So I guess with the help of my 'nina, that I
have finally overcome a lifetime of too large seam allowances!

Mary Beth
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 20:09:29 MST
Subject: Re: Quilt Piecing Question

I do have to comment on Pat Y's comment that machine quilted quilts are
"less valuable than hand quilted ones."  The technique of machine quilting
has been around as long as there have been sewing machines...(see article
by Gwen Marston in the August 1995 issue of Patchwork Quilts).  According
to Marston, she has seen many machine quilted 'antique' quilts and describes
one that she owns from the mid 19th century.  Hand quilting may be
someone's preference, but that does not make machine quilted items any
less valuable.
Subject: Re: Quilt piecing question

Theresa asked if she should piece a quilt with the walking foot. My
preference would be for the 1/4" foot, because you would not have any problem
with fabric shifting while piecing a block, at least I don't. Then you can
quilt it with the walking foot unless, of course, you are doing free motion
quilting, in which case you use one of the 3 darning feet. My preference
there is the open toed one whose number escapes me, and I'm not near the
machine now to find out. I have the large darning foot but think it has too
much bounce. This was explained by one of our members as having been designed
for European quilters who use heavier batting. 

Mary M
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 02:09:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Quilt Piecing Question

> What I am wondering is if anyone has used that new "gun" that shoots

Teri: Yes, I have and use the QUilt Tak gun. It works well, and I have
'shot' 4 quilts with it now. It does make a rather large hole compared to
what you would be used to with safety pins or hand-basting, and I have heard
lots of people complain about it, but it hasn't caused any problems here. I
always wash my quilts when they are completely done to remove any markings,
etc, and have found that the holes pretty much disappear then. The fibers
re-settle I guess. I have the Quilt Tak brand. Dritz and now another company
put out the same product at a much lower price tag, but a friend (who has
Dritz AND QuiltTak versions) claims the Dritz doesn't work as well...jams
more. Dritz does make the Taks themselves in red (Quilt Tak to my knowledge
only distributes the clear) and they are much easier to see in your quilt
for removal.
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 95 06:46:11 EDT
Subject: Re: Machine Embroidery

Could I please add a question to the inquiry about the "Amazing Trace"?  Is
it difficult to use?  I've seen some beautiful results at sewing shows, but
for the "average" sewer, how hard is it to use?  Thanks.

Ruth B
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 07:46:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Amazing Trace

Terri - You can get a free video demonstrating the Amazing Trace by calling
l-800-887-6253. They will also tell you the name of your nearest Elna dealer.
It apparently works like a pantograph. You trace on one side and the tracing
is reproduced on another side. I am planning on looking at it this week
either Thursday or Friday. My nearest dealer is about 50 miles away. I'll
let you know what my impressions are. Looks like there could by many slips
between the tracing and the final sew-out, depending on how steady a hand
a person has. Mine is VERY unsteady!
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 95 06:53:42 EDT
Subject: Re: Quiltmaking

I too have a 1630.  Using the #1 foot, in what position do you use the
needle, i.e., how many "dots" to the right?  This sounds a very good idea.

Ruth B
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 08:22:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Machine Embroidery

>Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 20:32:58 -0400
>Subject: Machine Embroidery
>Does anyone know anything about the "Amazing Trace" embroidery attachment
>that works with all zig zag sewing machines? The ads make it look as though
>it is a way to bypass the expense of a new machine to do embroidery, but I
>wonder if it works as well as advertised -- can you REALLY produce
>professional looking embroidery, or is this hype?
>How about "free machine" embroidery -- is this a way to reproduce designs
>like the new fancy machines make?


I receive the video ont his attachement,but I am not convince that is 
that good, before risking your money on it, try a dealer who have and 
give a hand to hand demonstration, Elna is the maker of it.

Milagros v--v
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 08:31:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Quilt Piecing Question

Sorry I offended someone -- I certainly did not intend to. I had read in a
publication from the Smithsonian Institute 3-4 years ago that they had some
quilts made in the early 1900's that were indeed machine quilted and THEY,
the institute, didn't think they were as valuable as hand-quilted ones. I
was only making a comment. I, too, have done a few tops on the machine using
some of the fancy stitches on my 1230 and they turned out very pretty, but
I just prefer to relaxes me after a very hard day
in the office. Just 30 minutes of quilting and I'm as good as "new"!
Pat Y.
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 17:46:48 -0700
Subject: QuiltTak

I just had to add a note on this subject.  

The BEST thing about the QuiltTak is that it REALLY keeps the layers from
shifting.  I'm on my 6th tacked quilt and have totally stopped smoothing the
backing to make sure I don't get wrinkles.  You just don't need to with a
tacked quilt.  

I'm also in favor of buying the real thing.  From other lists I subscribe
to, I've heard that QuiltTak is very supportive, to the point of replacing
jammed guns.

Buy one - I'll never regret the money I spent on mine!


P.S.  And don't try the Dritz taks in the QuiltTak.  I did, and they don't work.

Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:38:52 -0500
Subject: Metallica sewing machine needle

I read in the Notes section of my new Threads magazine about a new sewing
machine needle called Metallica.  Apparently even at high speed, this new
needle helps in forming good stitches and minimizing damaged thread.  Threads
tried were:  Sulky, Madeira, Mettler, Coats, Gutterman, and Sulky Sliver.
The reviewer wrote that she only found a problem with Metler's metallic thread,
which shredded in several tests, as it does with other needles.

So my question to all you Bernina people - where can I get these needles?

Ida T
	( id AA124472630; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 12:50:30 -0400
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 12:50:30 -0400
Subject: Machine quilting less valuable?

If you prefer hand quilting, by all means go for it. However, I don't think
Caryl Bryer Fallert or the American Quilting Society would agree that machine
quilting is less valuable since Caryl got $10,000 for her first Best of Show
at Paducah and $15,000 for this year's. Caryl also does many commissions, all
of which are machine quilted and she gets big bucks for them, as do many
other professional quilters. 

I hope that many of you will be  privileged to see one of Debra Wagner's
quilts with their exquisite machine quilting if you should ever visit the
Museum of the American Quilting Society in Paducah. I have stood in awe in
front of these for long periods of time, even though just looking at them
makes me go weak in the knees. They are truly unbelievable. After practically
memorizing her book, I have decided that only hundreds of hours of practice
will get me even within shouting distance of what she does.

Mary M
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 00:29:59 -0400
Subject: 1/4"seams

Sorry I'm a little late chiming in on this, but I was away at Quilt Camp
(Vermont Quilt Festival) -- winging a LOT of fabric thru my 'nina!  My Mom &
I started a lone star quilt Friday at VQF and knew that step one was the
"calibrating our 1/4" seams".  I knew I had more options so SHE sewed a 1/4"
seam and then I tried to match it.  My normal set up -- #1 foot and needle
moved one to the right was several thread too deep.  I then tried the open
toe embroidery foot with the needle moved one to the right and was right on
her seam line.  That was perfect for us.  Later we worked on another project
and we had measurements to check (this piece should measure 7 1/2" when
complete) and both of ours did.  So I guess with the help of my 'nina, that I
have finally overcome a lifetime of too large seam allowances!

Mary Beth<--who loved using a little foot on her Featherweight
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:21:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/18/95

Isobel, I just loved your post about your 'ninas, especially

>Adult School. I was told that since they sell Bernina I would have to buy one
>to do my demonstations and sewing on. That was no problem, I was hooked 
>from sewing on them at the store. Entered my 830. It has been the greatest
>machine I ever owned. It is always open.

Years ago, my dad gave me an 801 that replaced a truly cruddy Singer
(supposedly top-of-the-line!).  I blush to tell you that after using the
'nina for about 20 minutes, I decided that the *801* must be Bernina's top
model!  After all, it operated noiselessly, made perfect seams, did a
_great_ buttonhole, zig-zagged, edge-stitched, etc. etc.  Be kind when you
read this, remember that my *dad was the one who did the sewing machine
shopping... Of course, these days, 14 years later, I'm agonizing over
whether to buy a 1080 or a 1090, but I keep reading this maillist and
changing my mind.  Guess I'll call it "research" and not "waffling".  Or
maybe "collecting data".  Yeah, that's it!  I'm "collecting and correlating
data".  ;^)

Elaine J
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 08:59:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Machine Embroidery


I've only dabbled with free motion work, and if you haven't tried it, pick up
one of many books, and have a go at it.  It's almost mesmerizing!

I've seen some pretty incredible examples of free-motion work.  I was also at
a Bernina class where the instructor did a monogram free-motion and it was

Free motion, btw, doesn't mean that you can't trace the image on to the
fabric or stabilizer and then follow those lines.  I've seen ads for the
Amazing Trace, and have wondered if it would really be any better than
following a traced image.  From the looks of the ad, it seems you move the
hoop while watching the guide arm follow the picture.  That sounds like it
requires more co-ordination than I'm capable of.

If you get a chance to try it out, please let us know what you think.


Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 14:02:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Bernina Club

Hello everyone,

I went to my first Bernina Club meeting last night--yes, I am a 
relatively new Bernina owner, bought a 1001 in May--and had a wonderful 
time. I bought my Bernina at Quilt Scene (no affiliation) and have 
already taken my two free lessons on how to operate/clean/sew on the 
machine (people who buy the more complicated, computerized Berninas get 
more lessons). The shop owner gave the classes and she was excellent (the 
shop is owned by Lucy and Eddie Mansfield, he's a certified Bernina 
repair-person, and Lucy knows practically everything there is to know 
about sewing and Berninas). Last night's class was on how to use Solvay 
for applique. We made placemats, and they are gorgeous. 

But let me tell you about the Bernina Club at Quilt Scene--there's one 
every month, the same class repeated 4 times--twice on Saturdays, and 
twice on Mondays (morning and evening). The class last night was from 
7-10 pm. Classes alternate between hands-on where you bring your Bernina 
and make something and demonstrations of how to do stuff. (I'm writing this 
over lunch so I don't have my newsletter in front of me to tell you August's 
topic.) The instructor last night was excellent, and I've heard wonderful 
things about the other teachers as well. I can't wait to go to my next club 
meeting. The club is free for the first year, and then I think it costs 
$25. YOu have to preregister for the hands-on classes, but not for the 
lecture classes. 

I think that exchanging Bernina Club topics is a good idea. I will look 
up old newsletters and let you know what else has been covered.

I guess I'm really lucky to be in an area where there is a Bernina dealer 
who goes out of her way to help customers make the best use of their 

Just my $.02,
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 06:59:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/18/95

B asked about the plastic gun for basting.  I've used it once (the
Dennison machine from PineTree QuiltWorks) and was very pleased.  I basted a
crib size top in about twenty minutes once I got everything ready to go and I
HATE  basting!  I don't think I used anough of the plastic thingies and had
some trouble at first learning my technique but liked the results. Things to
look out for:  getting one piece caught between the layers--there's no way on
earth to get it out.  Loosing sight of them in the finixhed quilt.  I wish
the plastic things also came in dark so that you could see them against a
light background.  I ran my hands over the quiltg a number of times after I
finished it, and still found  ones I'd missed.  NOt good for a baby.  Yes, it
does leave little holes, but the healed nicely in my cotton, and won't rust
the way safety pins could.  
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 08:55:33 -0400
Subject: Alternative to Wonder Under applique

At one of the Sunday Samplers in Houston a couple of years ago, a quilter
demonstrated a technique. She uses USED dryer sheets and faces the applique
piece with them, sewing all the way around it. Then slit the middle and turn
right side out and press. Now you can hand or machine applique your piece in
place. I realize that with this technique it is not fused, but that's what
pins are for.

Mary M
Subject: QuilTak and 1260
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 95 06:06:00 PDT 

What timing!  I brought the Quilts &Other Comforts catalog in to work this 
a.m. so I could order a QuilTak machine.  I had seen another one (It looked 
the same in the photo) in Clotilde catalog for twice the price and it didn't 
include the tacks) and was afraid that this one was not a "good" one.   But 
all your comments about the "name brand" have eased my fears.  So glad I 
turned on E-mail today!

After posing the question earlier this year to this group about which 
Bernina to buy, I settled on the 1260.  It's WONDERFUL.  I discovered that I 
remembered how to sew.

 I was going to get the 1090, but  then decided to get a computerized one so 
I could do the alphabet.  Oh well, it's just money.  Had one class (it 
wasn't that great) but the people are really nice, so I'll probably join 
their Bernina Club (next one is in the fall).

Thanks everyone for your input about the models of the Berninas.

Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 10:01:17 -0400

It is fine to like hand is not fine to say one is better.
The quality of the hand or machine work is what makes it valuable to the
collector. My grandmothers quilting was not very good but I would not trade
them for any other. Let us work on our skills and enjoy the beauty of piece. 
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 11:34:42 -0400
Subject: Re:Tackers

Re:  QuilTak, Dritz, etc.

The QuilTak and the Dennison red guns are identical.  QuilTak buys the
Dennison ones from Dennison and then puts their own label on it.  Same is
true of the 14" tacks and needles. I believe the Dennison guns are made in
the US.   The Dritz gun, however, is made "offshore" and it does not seem as
sturdy or as durable, and it does not have a good reputation.  Re: the holes.
 They do seem big, they seem to close up when fabric is washed.  My theory:
 rather than cutting the fabric, they "part" the fibers.  The washing and
drying process puts the fibers back where they were ...

Hope this helps at least somewhat. 

Addy H
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 16:43:57 -0400
Subject: Free-motion quilting foot

Greetings!  Recently I saw posted somewhere that some one used their open
toed embroidey foot for free-motion quilting.  Was that you Robbie?  Any way,
I was wondering if others did this.  I have been using the large circular
free-motion quilting foot but have had troble with skipped stitches so I
switched to the small circular foot(darning foot I think) that came with my
1090.  That helped, less bouncing I guess.  Does the open toed foot work
better?  What number is that foot?
Thank for your help. Evie
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 19:00:12 -0400
Subject: machine to learn on

I'm new to this group, but MY you all sound so educated! I hope you wonderful
Bernina ladies can help me out with this one.......

I'm thinking of buying my 10 year old daughter a good used machine to learn
to sew on. A friend of mine has the 930 and I am very impressed with it. I
have found an 830 for sale, but it does not have the electronic foot control
that the 930 does. I feel a sewing machine is easier to control with the
electronic foot pedal (especially at slower speeds, where my daughter will be
while learning) and in general just "drives better".

Those of you with the 830, I would love some feedback about your
machine......... Am I being too picky about this?

Also, if I can get it for $200, is that a good price?
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 20:08:50 -0400
Subject: Machine Dilemma

Almost two years ago I went to Bernina U., for consumers, in Chicago---Had a
fabulous time.  I was then sewing on a 1230, came home and traded up for a
1630, which I never had any problems with other than the straight stitch
wasn't as nice as my 1230, but it was fun to sew with and play with. However,
after being online and listening and hearing complaints I began to second
guess myself and after much soul searching I traded down for a 1260. Now that
I am sewing almost everyday I truly miss my 1630, my dealer is great and is
willing to do anything I want regarding trading. I make quilts as well as
clothes for two teenage daughters and myself.   Should I go back and get my
1630 or go to a 1530,  do those of you with two machines truly use them
both????? I have a serger that I use, also.  Totally confused and frustrated,
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 21:01:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Free-motion quilting foot

I use the #20- open toe embroidry foot for my quilting, among many other
things, one of my favorite feet.
Subject: Re: Machine to learn on
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 95 17:57:35 PDT

Ohmygawd, grab that baby at $200 as they sold for about $900+ and they retain
almost there original value.  <^_^>!!!!

Jean P
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 21:30:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Machine to learn on

Dear Learning,

As I have said before on this group, I have a sewing business with my 830 
and have used it for years with no problem except once when moving back 
from California and my former husband put it on the floor of the moving 
van.  It was a $50 repair. I may never upgrade to a computerized version 
because I keep hearing about probs with the different feet and what not.
Just my .02.

Date: Thu, 20 Jul 95 16:37:32 -0600
Subject: Re: Alternative to Wonder Under Applique

     I've also used dry cleaner bags and Solvy to do the same thing.  
     However, with both of those, you can use a low-temp iron setting, and 
     temporarily hold it in place.  It works pretty slick!
     I have tons of used dryer sheets that I use for stabilizers when I sew 
     buttonholes, or embroidery.  I think I'll give your technique a try, 
     but instead of pinning (I hate to pin) I think I'll try using my 
     Liqui-Fuse.  Thanks for another use for my dryer sheets!
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 21:44:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/18/95

Hi Isobel, enjoyed your history!! I raise Abyssinian cats and make my own
cage covers too!! Bout' fell off my chair when I read that.

I have a Bernina 1090 and am sewing a king size quilt on right now, kinda
hot. This is my first pieced big quilt, and the middle part is a bear to sew.
Its Maltese Circles and has turned out really nice, so far! I first tried
free motion with the #9 foot, and did not like that, so now am using the
walking foot and it is working great.

I have another humugous quilt, dresdan sp? and I hand sewed them on. I made
the batting too thick, and the backing is heavy. Be a great quilt for Alaska!
I will have to use the free motion on that, too hard and big too move around.
I will wait till winter to attempt that, what the hec, been in a chest for 8

Never again, king size, I am on to smaller quilts after these two.

What ever happened with the stats on Bernina owners?

Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 21:44:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/19/95

How much is one of the QuiltTac guns? I just saftey pinned a king size quilt,

Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 22:05:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Mettalica sewing machine needle

We have them at Julia's Sewing Center- 14930 N. Florida Ave., Tampa, Florida
(813) 961-7543.  I work there part-time.  Are you in the area?

Subject: Re: Bernina Club/Bernina Prices 
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 95 22:52:15 -0400

My Bernina dealer (Ann's Fabrics - the same one as Mary Lou Frey goes
to, and the same one that is sponsoring the consumer Bernina
University in October) charges $100/year even if you bought your
machine from her.  Unfortunately, as far as I can tell she's got the
only Bernina dealership in the Boston area (Canton and Woburn, Mass.).

Given all the reports about dealers who don't charge, or charge only a
nominal amount per class ($30/year comes out to $2.50/month), I'd
really like to hear about other dealers within 40 miles of Boston who
might offer a better deal on classes.  Who knows, maybe I won't have
to pay $8.95 if I want to buy a monthly 1630 Notebook installment or
$8.50 for 6 bobbins or $80+ for any of the stitch keys (guess who's
bought none?). 

Thanks in advance,

Debbie D

P.S. Is it ever possible to have enough bobbins?  :-)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 23:08:42 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Machine Dilemma

Hello, All!

Regarding the two machines and which Bernina to trade for...I have a 1530 
and also a really nice Pfaff mechanical machine that I have been unable 
to part with mainly because it was my first decent machine (just 6 years 
ago!) and I'm of the extremely sentimental type. Pathetic. But, I never 
use the Pfaff...I also have a 2000DE, sew at least an hour or two every 
day and cannot justify having all three machines, especially since I 
could use the money from selling the Pfaff to buy more fabric...but 
somehow I haven't been able to even post an ad for it.

I love the was a surprise from my husband who loves the best of 
computer/stereo/sewing/electronic equipment, but also understood about 
the rotary vs. hook thing-y. (I am not really interested in all the 
mechianical bits--he threads my serger because he thinks it's fun and I 
don't)...anyway, I am very happy with all the capabilities and stitch 
quality of the 1530. It is the best choice in my opinion.

Thanks to everyone for all the great tips and ideas. I am a relatively 
new Bernina owner (less than a year) and appreciate all the info onthe 
foots, etc.

Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 23:44:19 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Machine to learn on

$200 for an 830?  About 2 months ago, a lady placed an ad asking $300 for
her 830, complete with everything.  First day of her ad, first caller at 8
a.m. and cash in hand before 9 a.m.  Do not hesitate...drop everything and
make sure you get this wonderful machine.  Your daughter will use it for
many, many years. 

Date: 21 Jul 95 09:10:43 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/18/95

Hi Isobel,
     The Canadian Bernina U is August 8-13 in Toronto.  I'm going up for the
weekend.  If you need more info let me know.
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:29:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Machine to learn on

I have an 830 and I guess it doesn't have an electronic foot.  I know I 
love it.  It does have a low gear where it sews slower for heavy materials 
but could also be used for sewing slow in general.  I think $200.00 is a 
good price.  I paid about $900 about 20+ years ago and mine works as good 
now as it did then.

Verna W
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 22:22:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Free-motion quilting foot

The foot number is 24 and I love you can see where you are, where you have
been. and where you are going. The clearance is the same as the 9 foot and
stitches do not skip.
Sender: Myra Hills 
Subject: Re: Machine to learn on

To Verna:
I guess I don't know what is meant by an electronic foot.  One Bernina 
user posted that the 830 does not have an elec. ft.  Does that refer to 
the foot pedal?  My 801 has a foot pedal with electronic parts because 
when I lost my low speed, the dealer/technician told me it was a small 
circuit board which had gone bad and he replaced it successfully.  If 
your 830 has a similar foot pedal, and you are finding that your machine 
doesn't operate as smoothly as you wish, it could be fixable.  My dealer 
charged me just for parts (?) and it cost about $65 3 or 4 years ago.
By electronic, I don't mean it has the needle up/down feature, but simply 
operates the sewing machine from slow to fast in a smooth acceleration.
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 13:03:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/21/95

what is foot 24, I have been using either the small darning foot or #29?  
More info please, gee I was just at my Bernina dealer this morning.  I bought
the cutest bobbin holder, she also had wrist pincushions with Bernina on

Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 17:30:15 -0400
Subject: Vacation???!!!

Just back from the Vermont Quilt Festival and since then I've been convinced
by you all and others to purchase the #37 1/4 in. foot.  In the neighborhood
of my dealer today (not a common occurance) and thought I'd do the deed.
 HE's ON VACATION!!  Whoa.  Guess this is why the next nearest dealer
probably gets most of the quilting business, eh?

Toll free number and mail order here I come.

Mary Beth
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 20:22:47 -0400
Subject: Bernina 1630

Am seriously interested in the purchase of a new Bernina 1630 but hesitate
because of some of the bad press it has received from online sources and
others, e.g., (1), bad computer boards in the early models which required
replacement at owners' expense,(2), stitch quality, (3) new rotary hook
design, (4) the "Creative Machine" newsletter negative review.
I would appreciate comments from 1630 owners/users who can shed objective
light on this machine.  
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 09:54:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/22/95

Andy, I am a 1630 owner, I must admit there are times that I just wish I
wasn't, but lately I really have come to love this machine, just as much as
my other Bernie's.  I think that the stitch quality is the same.  I see no
difference  in anything, really.  I am upset about the amount of bad press
that this machine has gotten lately.  I think that Bernina should do some PR
big time  on promoting the good points of this machine.

My problem was that my 1630 was one of the first ones made, it did have bugs
in it, but Bernina did an upgrade on it and since then, it has been a
My dealer told me yesterday that there is a workshop for dealers coming up in
September for the 1630.  Hopefully 
more info about the 1630 will be coming out.  
I would reccomend buying a 1630.  

Hope this helps.

Subject: 1630 Rotary Foot

Does anyone use the 1630 Rotary Foot.  What uses do you make of it?   
Instructions say "allows sewing in 16 directions--even over uneven 
surfaces or thick fabrics".  How would this differ from the No. 1 
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 15:01:56 -0400
Subject: Re:Bernina serger

I am interested in buying a used serger.  If anyone out there is interested
in selling one please write me privately.  I would like some comments on what
to buy.  Thank you.

Date: Sun, 23 Jul 95 22:01:57 PDT
Subject: 1630 Bad Press/Good Press

I've had my 1630 for almost 2 years.  I wowned a 1530 six months, and sold it for 
what I paid for it exactly, and upgraded to a 1630.  I knew a rotary hook (instead of 
the oscillating hooks of most other Berninas) was going to be a compromise, but I had 
been a Bernina owner for almost 20 years, and trusted the integrity of the company and
my dealer, so I gambled!  An here is "...the rest of the story...":

1. I brought my new 1630 home.  45 minutes later, the screen burned out.  I had to take
it back to the dealer (a one hour, 40+ mile trip each way) and exchange it for a new

2. 6 weeks later, I had trouble with stitches skipping when the needle position was far
left or right, and I also had trouble with the auto button holer.

3. The dealer called me in for a factory mandated upgrade (at no cost), because of a bad
PC board, but even after the upgrade, my stitches still were not perfect.

4. The dealer called me in for another upgrade (at no cost).

5. The dealer called me in again, and took my machine and sent it back to Chicago.  Swiss
machanics were going to fix original 1630's and bring them up to new ones, with an estimated
time of 3 weeks.  I took my machine in September of 1994, and got it back in December of
1994!  Bernina had a schedule for dealers to mail back machines to Bernina of America in
Chicago on a specific schedule, but others "jumped the gun", and individuals mailed their
own in, causing a huge backlog, and us "honest" waiters in line suffered for months (it
eventually took three months, and was upgraded at no charge).

6. I got a call from my dealer saying "Good News!".  The people who sent back their machines
early would have to send them back again if they wanted to upgrade to a chip set that would
allow PC hook up, and since they still had mine, it could be done while it was still there,
and the charge would be $150 for this one time only.  The prices of the new 1630's were
increased now and it would eventually be the same as the new ones!  I did the upgrade!

7. December 17, 1994: I received my upgraded, upgraded, upgraded 1630 back (I had sent my 
auto button holer back with the machine to be re-calibrated also), and it was like a brand
new machine!  Everything was perfect!  I was so glad that I hung in there.  Bernina usually
tests their products for a couple of years before introducing them, and in this instance
they did not, but they made good without charge except for the final upgrade to PC 

8. One more thing I noticed was a hairline crack coming from a screw on the plastic panel
of the body, and I did not mention this to my dealer (I was afraid to lose my machine
again!), but it troubled me like a windshield crack on the car, and grew larger and wider
apart.  When I mentioned it to my dealer, he had to order parts, and did so at no charge
because he said it was caused by the shipping and handling during the upgrade process,
and now that the part is replaced, it is fine!  It took five months for the part to come in,
but I still could sew during the waiting period, and now it is like new again.

In conclusion, would I buy the 1630 again knowing what I know now?  You bet I would!
I never whined, and I had my 830 (that has been my daughter's to use), and I  knew that
if worse came to worst, I could always trade down to a 1530 if I wanted to.  I knew Bernina
stood behind their products.  The _new_ 1630's won't have any of the original problems
like I had.

Just a few reasons why I don't want to trade down to a 1530 (a great machine, by the way):

1. I love the big script alphabet.
2. I love border R1 and the Horoscopes (I use them like Speedo or Janzen logos on T-shirts,
swimwear, and bicycling apparel all the time).
3. I love the simpler auto button holer, button sew on, and auto eyelet function, and 
the 9mm zigzag.
4. I love the track ball click thing, on the 1530 and 1630, because there are no buttons
to hit by accident, and I love to see the screen display, being able to edit what I design
and repeat, etc.

My name is Jill S, and I am a part time home dress maker, sewing instructor, mother 
of 3, and office manager.  I sew about five hours per day on average.  I love my 1630
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:47:43 +0800
Subject: Re: 1630 Rotary Foot

I have had some experience with the rotating foot and I can honestly say it
seems more trouble than it is worth.  The advertising is great, "allows
stitching in 16 directions" but you must change the direction manually on
the foot each time you want to change direction.  Also I don't know about
your number 41 foot, but mine seems to explode each time I leave it alone in
the case.  It didn't come in three pieces but it falls apart easily, without
even touching it.  strange?....  I'll be interested to see what others have
to say about this foot.  I'm living in Hong Kong right now and the feet for
the Bernina's are "somewhat?" less expensive, so I'm stocking up.  I would
welcome any suggestions of feet that I should buy.  Today I picked up the
#10, much larger than my favorite foot number 5, and the #23 plastic
applique foot, and the #85 bias binder.  I should tell you that we are
moving back to California later this year and I will need various feet to
decorate our house and design soft furnishings.  I have a couple of
questions for anyone with a few minutes to spare.  Do you know if the
following feet are a good investment?
Thank you for any help and suggestions.

#24        freehand embroidery  (looks very small?)
#52        zig zag with telfon
#70        run and fell foot 4mm
#25        cording foot.

Thanks again.
I brake for Bernina's
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 06:12:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/22/95

I second what RoniG has written.  Last week I did a quilt top and a stuffed
bear on the 1630.  No tension adjustments and no problem.  The teacher for
the bear class said you couldn't sew that fabric on a machine....was she
surprised when I brought  mine in.  
I love my 1630
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 95 06:10:24 EDT
Subject: Re: 1630 Rotary Foot

Hi Sandra,
I too have the rotary foot and have never found a use for it.  I'm also
hoping someone will tell us what to do with it.  Thanks!

Ruth B
	id AA26788; Mon, 24 Jul 95 08:04:46 CDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 08:04:45 -0500 (CDT)   

I have had my 1630 for 10 months.  It is my first good sewing machine
so I don't know what to compare it to exactly.  I am having a good
time with the gadgets; the tension, unlike my old machine, is
always perfect.  On the other hand, the stitches aren't as straight
as I think they ought to be.  (If this is something that they should
fix for me rather than a side effect of the design, somebody please
let me know.)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:51:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95

Jodi - there are so many good sergers on the market that are mid price
ranged, it would probably be better to check those out before purchasing a
new one.  Sergers are like a candy store _ do you like Snickers, Milky Way or
a plain Hershey bar.  Here are some of the features I tell my students about
when considering purchase of a new serger:.  (I do not, however, recommend 5
threads - if you want to know why ask)
Consider:  2-3-4 thread serger (this means you can use either 2, 3, or 4
threads)  I have some crafters that use 2 threads for rolled hem, flatlocking,
deco serging.  I personally don't believe 2 thread is strong enough for seaming.
     Most serging is done with 3 thread.  Whether seaming, flatlocking,
rolled hemming,  doing all the creative serging is done with 3 thread serging.
     4 thread is adding the safety stitch (like stitching 2 rows of straight
stitch) so tat if your first seam goes - you have a backup seam "sew to speak" until
you can  get home and fix it.  It is also stronger - therefore if I make a
complete garment on the serger I will use 4 thread, also in my drapery business where I
need strength in the seaming and in childrens clothes a 4 thread is a must.

Consider:  Built-in rolled hem device.  This allows easy converting from
regular serging
     to doing rolled hem (which is done with 3 threads).  There are machines
     do beautiful rolled hem work, but you have to change the throat plate
and/or presser
     foot and if you're not mechanically oriented, it can be time consuming
and a hassle.

Consider:  Differential feed:  This is a feature that will help you control
stretching - waviness in a knit, for example, or in addition can help control
puckering or can pucker, or gather.  Sergers are not gathering machines,
but with the help of the differential feed can gather and in addition,
there are accessory feet you can purchase (gathering, shirring) to aid the diff
in helping you to gather.

Consider:;  Stitch lenght and Differential feed adjustment controls on the
Outside of the machine.  This allows you to adjust your stitches while
serging so you don't have to go inside the machine.  It aids in the ease of
adjusting on your sample and these two can be manipulated while serging.

Consider:  Cutting width adjustment:  There are two cutting blades on a
serger (which operate like scissors) the upper cutting blade and the lower
blade.  The upper blade can be disengaged to prevent you from cutting
your fabric if so desired (for example, flatlocking on the fold of the
fabric where you don't want to cut or trim your fabric) But the lower blade in some
machines is stationary.  A cutting width adjustment allows you to move
that blade out so that your stitched seam allowance can be as narrow as
a rolled hem or as wide as 7.5mm (a little over 1/4" or more").  This is
also an advantage when you do get into decorative stitching.  I've had many a
student sadden because their decorative flatlock isn't as wide as others
because they have a stationary blade.  

Consider:  I always to recommend purchase from a dealer because of service
and  (hopefully) knowledge about the machine.  If you purchase
through Sears, Service Merch or Sams - Wal Mart - if something goes wrong -
they send your machine in for (could be months) or just trade you out a
new one so its inconvieniet to say the least.  A reputable dealer will
back their product and take care of you as a customer - and there are good
dealers out there.

Consider:  If you're squeemish of the threading - look for a machine that has
a lower looper threading aid.  Some of these are sold as "Self
threading" which is somewhat of a misnomer (except for the loopers on the Baby Lock
which is Jet air threaded and a dream of a machine)  but the others
have a button or some feature you have to engage to get a thread guide
brought forward to put the thread through and then send it back to the lower
looper.  I call threading the serger "Sew Aerobics!"  Anyway, this is a feature
that will help ease that frustration.

From personal experience, I like a tension control that I can personally
adjust.  There are lay in tension disks, and beehive (knob) type.  I don't like a "self
adjusting" tension because in decorative serging I still have to override their programs.  Some
sergers are sold as "computerized" and again, you can override what they have, some or
most are manual.  This will be a personal decision as you look around to see what you
can afford or want.  

It would benefit anyone looking for a new serger to "shop around:" take your
fabric sample to serge on and remember a salesperson is there to make money and
"sell you the machine."  Don't be high pressured until you have time to investigate
and get something that will suit your sewing needs.

So, Jodi (who just sew happens to be my sister in law) hows that for not
just lurking on the line and finally contributing???  hope this has been helpful.
 If not, you know where to reach me

Sew Sincerely,

Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:38:38 -0400
Subject: Rotary Foot

The Rotary Foot is the foot of choice to use when stitching in directions
other than forward and back although you can stitch that way too. You
literally turn the foot to point in the direction that you are sewing so that
the orientation of the grooves underneath the foot is facing the proper
direction. You get a better stitch that way than having the foot face forward
and the fabric move sideways. Use it for sewing around patches, mending,
anchoring cuffs by stitching in the ditch, etc. So far I have only used it
for practical stitching.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:52:18 EDT
Subject: Jills' 1630

Jill, I'm about to send my machine out for the free update, you know the
one, after the bad board upgrade.  Please tell me everything that changed
after the $150.00 upgrade so I can make up my mind whether to do it.  My
dealer now wants $175.00 for it.  Thanks!

Ruth B
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 23:35:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina 1630

Dear Andy,
I own a 1630 and love it as many do.  Unfortunately, we always seem to hear
more of the negative than the positive.  Too bad!  I have one of the first
ones and it has had all the upgrades.  The only one I paid for was the one
that was optional that gives the larger stitch designer options - a great
upgrade.  I would much rather pay a little for upgrades that make the machine
do more rather that replace the whole machine.  I belong to a great Bernina
Club and all of our 1630 owners are very happy with their machines as I know
you would be.
This is just my 2 cents worth.
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 07:37:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina 1630

Hi Andy,
I recently upgraded from a 1530 to a 1630, and am very happy with the
upgrade! The additional stitches available and the availability of the design
keys, etc. give this machine the maximum in upgradabilty. I haven't seen any
differences in stitch quality, either, between the 1530 &the 1630. I do
wish, however, that they would come up with a Mac interface!
Good luck with your decision!
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:10:03 EDT
Subject: Re: 1630 Rotary Foot

I strongly suggest you get a #37 (1/4") foot, a #12 foot, &a walking foot.
If you can get a good deal on that new walking foot, by all means get it
now.  It goes for around $80.00 if you're paying full price.

Ruth B
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:12:08 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95

Bernina should be able to fix you stitch problem with a free update.  Your
dealer will have to send the machine to Bernina of America.

Ruth B
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:46:01 -0400
Subject: Post a Message

	I very recently purchased a Bernina 1090c sewing maching and am in the 
midst of finding out everything the machine is capable of performing.  
Presently I am sewing a baby quilt and would like to do some of the quilting on 
the machine so I purchased the #29 quilt presser foot for this purpose.  The 
effect that I would like is to do on the machine is to simulate hand-quilting, 
meaning skipping every other stitch.  I have tried using the long stitch but 
this is not proportional and only looks like a long basting stitch.  Does 
anyone know how to perform this stitch and which presser foot works best?  
Thanks for your help.  Look forward to hearing from you.  
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:09:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/22/95

Carol in Spotsylvania, thee bear quilt sounds so cute. How big is it? Where
did you hear about it? I have a 1230, would it be difficult to do on it?

Would our Bernina dealer in H'burg have the pattern? I buy at the Clothesline.

Pat Y.
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:35:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/24/95

Wow Jill What a story.  
I think Bernina should give you the award for most patient 1630 customer in
Has anyone heard anything about  Bernina University last week?  
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:07:43 -0400
Subject: #41 foot

What is a #41 foot? It is not listed in my accessories leaflet. 

Thanks, Francyne.
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 12:35:07 PDT
Subject: Re: Jill Sanders's 1630

My DH is such a sweetie to post this for me.

I had the update where you had to send the 1630 back to 
Bernina of America in Chicago for the gears to be changed
to brass, and at the same time get the "words &two"
update, so it would be compatable to the PC.  When I got
it back, I wasn't exactly sure which thing changed the
quality the most.  My dealer here in California still
only charged $150.
The PC compatable upgrade allowed the design program of 
the original 1630 to design 45mm designs!  It also
allowed designs of some of the pre-programmed borders, etc,
in 45mm also.  This allowed me to get excited  about the 
design program in my machine.  I haven't purchased the 
software yet because it is rumored that in six months
to a year it is even going to get better, and because
I use my machine primarily for clothing construction I
can wait for that.
BTW, does anyone have an eyelet designer they want to sell?
I need one now but don't want to purchase new because I'm
waiting for one to come out that will do 9mm stitch for 
the 1630, but that might take a while.  My dealer suggests
to you that you definitely have your machine upgraded.

Jill S
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:16:00 EDT
Subject: 1630 Concerns

Roni, I agree with you about the 1630.  I bought my machine in 
November of 1994 and haven't had any problems, but the bad press 
certainly would scare me off if I were in the market for a new 
machine now.  I really like my 1630 but think we owners need more 
information on how to use all the goodies that are on it.  Otherwise, 
we might better have a model that doesn't have as many sewing options.
  Maybe a video, a more detailed manual, etc. and something at a 
"reasonable" price.  I have purchased most of the 1630 library but 
find it too expensive for the little that is there.  Also, the 
project ideas seem to be somewhat lacking in attractiveness.

Just my 2 cents!

Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 23:20:51 -0400 (AST)
Subject: My mail sources 

Just in case, My name is Milagros. I own a Bernina 940 
Favorit, Bernette 730, Toyota (YES, like the car), Singer 14U44 Serger 
and a Baby Lock blindhemmer (lemon).

Lately I've been reading questions of suppliers, well living in an small 
island I depend of mail order suppliers, so these are the ones for me.

If you need specifics on any of them, please E-mail me privately.

They are in no order at all.

Newark dressmaker supply
6473 Ruch Road
P.O. Box 20730
Lehigh Valley, PA 18002-0730
(800) 837-7500
Atlanta Thread &Supply Co.
695 Red Oak Road
Stockbridge, GA 30281
(800) 847-1001
Bee Lee
P.O.Box 36108
Dallas, Texas 75235-1108
(800) 527-5271
Nancy's Notions
P.O. Box 683
Beaver Dam, WI 53916-9976
(800) 833-0690
Clotilde, Inc.
2 Sew Smart Way
B 8031
Stevens, Point, WI 54481-8031
(800) 772-2891
Box 528
Stoughton, MASS 02072

Buttons by David
P.O. Box 375
Georgetown, DE 19947
(302) 856-7569
4521 Anderson Blvd.
Forth Worth, TX 76117
(800) 722-0311
P.O. Box 4099
Bethelhem, PA 18018-0099
The Green Pepper, Inc.
1285 River Road
Eugene, Oregon 97404
(503) 689-3292
Oregon Tailor Supply, Co.
P.O. Box 42284
Portland, Oregon 97242-0284
(800) 678-2457
   Favorites Magazines
Sewing Decor
1 Fashion Center
P.O. Box 5274
Harlan, IA 51593-2774
Sew News
1 Fashion Center
P.O. Box 3137
Harlan, IA 51593-2203
The Creative Machine
Open Chain Publishing, Inc.
P.O. Box 2634-NL
Menlo Park, CA 94026-2634
(415) 366-4440

*NOTE* Vol.V, No.2 page 10 with Robbie Fanning &Gaye, that's me)


Unicorn Books &Crafts
1338 Ross Street
Petaluma, CA 94954-6502
(800) 289-9276


Some of this companies charge for the catalog, please check with them. 
Hope this will help you a bit. If you have more suppliers and want to 
send them to me, I love to shop by snail mail. JAJAJAJA.

Sew News is online  (SEWNEWS@AOL.COM), they are making a report on Sewing 
Resources on the Internet, so if you hae any favorite place, Websites, 
Newsgroup send this information to the care of Jenny.

Happy sewing, quilting, etc.

Love you all,

Subject: Serger considerations

Forgive the repeat but... did such a splendid job at recommending the following
features for a serger:

Consider:  2-3-4 thread serger (this means you can use either 2, 3, or 4

Consider:  Built-in rolled hem device.  This allows easy converting from
regular serging

Consider:  Differential feed:  This is a feature that will help you control
stretching - waviness in a knit

Consider:;  Stitch lenght and Differential feed adjustment controls on the
Outside of the machine

Consider:  Cutting width adjustment

BTW: this 'sounds' like a 334DS to me :)

Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 08:55:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Bear quilt

Sorry, something got lost somewhere.  It was a bear and a quilt top(double 9
I was just pointing out the variety of fabrics used.  
The class was taught by Bonnie Moose at the Rocking Horse Gallery in
Fredricksburg.  We used her non published pattern.
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:13:29 -0400
Subject: 1630 Concerns

I'm the happy owner of a 1630.  Lately it's been acting up.  When I try to
change the stitch length or needle position, it occassionally doesn't make
any changes.  The other night I tried to get to the blind hem from the main
menu and kept ending up with the alphabet.  I was able to get to the blind
hem by starting to sew which automatically clicks to the straight stitch
screen.  The machine is one of the newers ones which means it shouldn't need
an upgrade.  This has happened only a few times.  Has anyone else had this

It's going to the shop in a couple of weeks.  I have to finish the quilt I'm
working on first.  My dealer will give me a loaner, but I don't want to
switch machines in the middle of the quilt.  Silly I know.
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 22:25:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95

>  On the other hand, the stitches aren't as straight
>as I think they ought to be.  (If this is something that they should
>fix for me rather than a side effect of the design, somebody please
>let me know.)

I have an 1130 and its stitches aren't really straight either.  My dealer
told me that only a straight-stitch machine (not one that will do zigzag
stitches, etc) will have a truly straight stitch.  Maybe that's just an excuse?

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 00:27:31 -0400
Subject: Re: hand quilting look &thanks

I look forward to someone replying to this question, since I can't imagine
how this would be accomplished on a machine.  It seems to me that machine
sewing involves a thread on top and one on the bottom -- NO skips.  I do a
lot of machine quilting and aim to have the same pattern flexibility as by
hand but never pretend that it will ever be like hand sewing.  I am a strong
believer in the beauty and worth of machine quilting!

I'd like to take a moment to thank my Wonderful 1260, without whom it would
have been nigh on impossible to complete the lone star top, finished last
night.  All during the process of working on the star (an 8 pointed star
composed of rows of diamonds, for the non-quilters out there), I was so aware
and appreciative of the machine's ability to go over any seam without a hitch
and the ability to sew slowly and stop on a dime made the set ins a breeze.
 Between these features and the knee lift and natural ability to feed fabric
with a minimum of steering, the project was MUCH easier than I expected.

Mary Beth
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 95 07:08:43 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95

About the 1130 -- I had one before the 1630 and it sewed the most beautiful
straight stitch you've ever seen.  Your dealer is surely telling a fib.

Ruth B
Subject: QuilTak and 1260
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 95 05:22:00 PDT

What timing!  I brought the Quilts &Other Comforts catalog in to work this 
a.m. so I could order a QuilTak machine.  I had seen another one (It looked 
the same in the photo) in Clotilde catalog for twice the price and it didn't 
include the tacks) and was afraid that this one was not a "good" one.   But 
all your comments about the "name brand" have eased my fears.  So glad I 
turned on E-mail today!

After posing the question earlier this year to this group about which 
Bernina to buy, I settled on the 1260.  It's WONDERFUL.  I discovered that I 
remembered how to sew.

 I was going to get the 1090, but  then decided to get a computerized one so 
I could do the alphabet.  Oh well, it's just money.  Had one class (it 
wasn't that great) but the people are really nice, so I'll probably join 
their Bernina Club (next one is in the fall).

Thanks everyone for your input about the models of the Berninas.

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:11:47 -0400
Subject: Straight stitches

If you are having problems getting your Bernina to make nice straight
stitches, consider buying the straight stitch plate. I love this plate so
much that each of my 3 machines has one. It is useful in many ways: you do
not get the wobble that you get from having all that room to move around in
the plate with the elongated hole; it will not suck little pieces down into
the hole (if you work on miniature quilts, you know what I'm talking about).
It does require keeping your wits about you and remembering to change the
plate when you go back to anything with a zigzag or an offset, because if you
don't, you will break a lot of needles.

Mary M
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 95 08:32:47 MDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95

>>  On the other hand, the stitches aren't as straight
>>as I think they ought to be.  (If this is something that they should
>>fix for me rather than a side effect of the design, somebody please
>>let me know.)
>>I have an 1130 and its stitches aren't really straight either.  My dealer
>told me that only a straight-stitch machine (not one that will do zigzag
>stitches, etc) will have a truly straight stitch.  Maybe that's just an excuse?

I have an 1130 and my stitches are straight and it doesn't even matter what
type of fabric I'm sewing on.  I think your dealer is making that up -
Bernina is known for its quality stitches!>
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:30:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/26/95

> >  On the other hand, the stitches aren't as straight
> >as I think they ought to be.  (If this is something that they should
> >fix for me rather than a side effect of the design, somebody please
> >let me know.)
> >

>I have an 1130 and its stitches aren't really straight either.  My dealer
>told me that only a straight-stitch machine (not one that will do zigzag
>stitches, etc) will have a truly straight stitch. Maybe that's just an excuse? 

  I have a venerable and well-loved 801, and I was going to do some
mending tonight anyway, so I'll take extra care to really study my
straight stitch tonight.  My years-long memory of my straight stitch is
that it's absolutely and precisely straight, but I want to check first
before being certain about posting that opinion. ;^)

Elaine J
Date:     Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:09:43 PDT

>Forgive the repeat but...
> did such a splendid job at recommending the
>following features for a serger:
>Consider:  2-3-4 thread serger (this means you can use either 2, 3,
>or 4 threads)
>Consider:  Built-in rolled hem device.  This allows easy converting
>from regular serging
>Consider:  Differential feed:  This is a feature that will help you
>control stretching - waviness in a knit
>Consider:;  Stitch lenght and Differential feed adjustment controls
>on the Outside of the machine
>Consider:  Cutting width adjustment
>BTW: this 'sounds' like a 334DS to me :)

Sounds like one to me too!  :-))

Based on Sylvain's strong(!) recommendation of the 334DS, I
purchased one.  It's fabulous!  All things as mentioned above, PLUS,
it's very easy to thread.

Judy C
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:44:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95

Dear Roni,
I was fortunate to attend BU last week.  I am a guide class teacher for a
dealer.  BU was great as usual.  Special guests included Martha Pullen,
Sandra Betzina, Kenneth King, Ann Boyce and all the Bernina training
consultants.  I took Sandra and Ann's classes.  Sandra was great, Ann so so.
 Martha spoke at the opening session. Quite entertaining.  I understand her
classes were wonderful.  My favorite however is always the Bernina training
consultants.  They always come well prepared with content and visual samples
to stimulate us with new and exciting ideas to bring home for great classes
in the field.  Classes on the stitch designer, directional feed, using the
1630 Library, the new Bernina Basic patterns ( you are going to love these),
the 2000 DCE.  My only problem was not being able to take all the classes I

I have been reading on this list about some Consumer BU's.  Are these
sponsered by dealers themselves, or by Bernina?

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:50:58 -0400
Subject: Yet another Limerick

There once was a quilter from Natchez
Who used to make horrible patchez
'Til she bought a Bernina,
A super machina,
And now she makes perfect matchez

(with apologies to Ogden Nash)

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:02:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/26/95

I agree the dealer, probably don't want to fix that kind of problem.   Take
it back and show him, I have a 1230 and I would be very upset if I saw
wobbly stitches.
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:09:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Yet another Limerick

HOW CUTE!  I really like this's been so educational and
at times even funny! JeanS, that is really cute.

Pat Y.
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 95 02:17:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95

Hello, I'm Petchy (female). This spring I bought
both a 1530 and a 2000DE from the dealer in Albuquerque. I've been very
disappointed with this dealer, but she has a virtual monopoly for the whole
state from what I understand.
I work 8-5, M-F, and ABQ is over 60 miles away. It took some time, but she
finally arranged for a teacher to come in on a Saturday to give me my
machine basics. The teacher was not very knowledgable and just sat and read
the manual to me -- which I had already done and gone through the exercises
before I ever got down there. So I felt that I had wasted a precious
Saturday. While I was there, I decided to get the 2000DE as they were on
sale. I also selected some other items that I wanted. They had a sale flyer
there for a sale that was to start that Monday (two days later). I asked if
I could get the sale prices since there was no way I could drive back down
there on Monday. At first she said no, which ticked me off -- considering
I'd spent over $4000 there within a few weeks -- so I said to please ring up
the purchases on Monday and send them up on UPS or something. She then said
rather rudely that she would go ahead and give me the discount early this
time, but I was never to ask again. Never fear! I won't spend any more money
in her store, and I won't recommend her to anyone else, either.
I would love to take some classes, but there is nowhere locally (Santa Fe is
a small town geared toward tourists, not people who live and work here) and
I really can't drive down there at night. It's 60 miles of dark, dark
highway with virtually nothing in between the two towns. Not to mention how
long it would make the day for me.
On the up side, I love the machines and have kept them whirring. I hadn't
sewn in years, but I guess it's like riding a bicycle. You never really
forget. And serging is a wonderland for me. I'm going down this Saturday to
take the free class they should have set up for me ages ago. I had a talk
with the teacher ahead of time this time and told her I had been using it
and didn't want to come down if she was going to read the manual to me. She
seems really nice and told me to bring my gathering foot and any questions I
have, and that she'd even teach me how to do some fancy tricks on it.
I've been reading all your messages for a week or so, but haven't been able
to respond due to internet problems somewhere along the line. We on GEnie
have been given another id to address, so I'm hoping this one will get
through. It's no fun being a forced lurker. :)
Thanks for listening.
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:25:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/26/95

>I have an 1130 and my stitches are straight and it doesn't even matter what
>type of fabric I'm sewing on.  I think your dealer is making that up -
>Bernina is known for its quality stitches!>

Thanks for the info!  Guess I'd best have it checked out (if I can stand to
be without it for a while)!
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 08:13:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/21/95

Hi Roni - 
The #24 foot is the open toe embroidery foot (just like the #9 darning foot
but with the front opened). 
Subject: Re: Free-motion quilting foot

Hi Evie - I personally think that the #9 ios the best foot for free motion
quilting. The #24 is really for embroidery, and the open toes tend to push
tucks into a quilted area, and get caught on the threads. The problem that
you are having with the #29 is that the shank is shorter, as the foot was
designed for 6 oz. polyester batting - high loft, so it is too short for thin
battings and often skips stitches. Hope the helps.
Harriet H
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:49:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95

Sue, Bernina of America HAS sponsored Bernina University for consumers; I
attended one in the San Francisco Bay Area in 1992.
     But we didn't get anywhere NEAR the stellar talent you enjoyed last
week!  It was a blast ANYWAY, and I'd go again in a minute.
     MY question is, is Bernina--NOT individual dealers, but BofA--still
sponsoring Consumers BU?  They advertised one in 1993, but I've seen nothing
since then.  Talk was, even in 1992, that it was a dicy thing; took a long
time to plan and set up, and probably didn't pay for itself.  At least not
like investment in dealers and teachers does.
     Still, it was one of the high points of my decade.  (Anyone who DID
attend the 1992 Consumers BU, I was the one in the prize-winning Golden Gate
Bridge hat . . . .)

Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 11:19:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Tacking guns

Re:  Quiltak gun ... I don't want to be overly commercial in this message
Sooo I will try to be informative only.  The Dennison red fine gun and the
Quiltak are IDENTICAL.  QuilTAK puts its label on the Dennison gun.  The rep
told us they are the same, and we checked; they are.  Now.  The gun that
looks the same but IS NOT is the DRITZ gun.  It has not been reliable or
durable.  Hope this settles the question.  I might add that PineTree
discounts both the Dennison and the QUiltak, but since we sell the Dennison
for less than the QUilTak and since the two are identical, we naturally sell
many, many more Dennisons ...Anyone who would like further info on this is
welcome to E-mail me.
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 11:15:39 -0500
Subject: leather rolling foot

I am getting ready to machine quilt a wall hanging.  I recently purchased the
leather rolling wheel (forget the #) that is supposed to be a dream to use
for machine quilting.  It came in a plastic bag.  No instructions.  Of course
I will do a sample piece to adjust tensions, etc. prior to doing the actual
quilting.  But what I want to know is can I leave the feed dogs up and do
curves?  Somewhere back in my clouded I believe I have tucked this bit of
information. (oops, that's clouded memory - my fingers can't keep up with my
thoughts.)  I mean, is this the advantage of owning this thing?  Leaving the
feed dogs allows control over the stitch length.  Advice, anyone?  I'd like
to know today, Friday, July 28, because I am set to pin baste this thing and
get started machine quilting this weekend.  (Full time job, you know, really
gets in the way of quilting, so the weekends get double quilting duty.)

One thing that has worked out well for me is the new Metallica sewing machine
needle, made by Schmetz.  Last I did some bobbin drawing with chenille 
thread/yarn in the bobbin and sulky sliver thread in the needle.  Worked like
a charm :)  Love that Bernina!

Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 11:47:26 -0500
Subject: madeira close out on some threads

Just gleened the following info from r.c.misc.  Thought some of you might be

Madeira USA has several types of decorative threads available on
"close-out" specials. Cotton in 5 sizes: No.3 for cording, No 12 for
smocking, chenille and serging, No. 20 for chainstitch and freehand
machine embroidery, as well as two thinner sizes for quilting, tatting,
and machine embroidery.  Rayon for machne embroidry also. Call
1-800-225-3001 for info.

I've already called and they will send info via snail mail Monday.

You'r welcome :)

Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95 
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 95 13:39:40 -0400

Ann's Fabrics, of Canton and Woburn Mass., will be sponsoring this
year's consumber Bernina University.  It will be at the end of October
somewhere in eastern Massachusetts.  I have the dates at home but
other info (hotel, cost, program) was not available the last time I
checked (two weeks ago).  According to Ann's, Bernina was not planning
on doing a consumer BU but Ann's wanted to do it and they agreed.

No doubt it will be really expensive, but I'm certainly going to go
and look forward to meeting many other people from this list.

Date: Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:33:36 -0500
Subject: ADMINISTRATIVE - Please read : )

Hi Everyone, 

Just want to let you all know that late tonight/early tomorrow morning, we will 
be down for a bit while we install our router.  We've found that we have to do 
this because we are currently running the mailing list (&our e-mail program) on 
the same computer as the one we run our Web site on (I also do the World Wide 
Quilting Page just incase someone didn't know ).  Anyway, due the increasing 
size of the list, almost 400, and the increasing popularity of the WWQP, we just 
can't run them on the same machine, therefore, the need for the router.  With 
the new router comes a new IP number.  (actually, we now get 255 new #'s but 
who's counting).

So, you may wonder what this means to you personally.  When we change our IP 
number, it may take a few days for all of the DNS programs on the Internet to 
get word of this change, so you may have a bit of trouble reaching us.  It only 
took 2 days last time we had an IP number change (back in February, bet none of 
you even noticed), but I wanted to make sure that everyone knows a head of time 
that we are still here &eventually all the mail will get here.

Now, one quick note about Berninas.  I own a 1630 and while it is my first 
Bernina, I'm getting as perfect a straight stitch w/ it as I do from my 
Featherweight, w/o a straight stitch plate.  I have found that the thread MUST 
be securely between the tension discs.  I was having trouble when I wasn't 
placing those short, stumpy spools of thread all the way down on the posts.  
(Hey, takes twice as much effort to poke a hole in the top label of the spool 
too. )  Seems the the thread would occasionally "jump" out from between the 
discs &give me the wavy line on the back of whatever I was sewing.  ANyway, 
just thought I'd pass that along.

Sue T
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:01:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/28/95

Hi Petchy, 
You made it!!!!
Petchy brings up a good point, isn't there a way for people that don't live
near a dealer to get info about Bernina's.  
I remember when I first bought my Bernina, I never heard a thing about new
machines, feet etc, until the Somers  NY quilt show.  That is when my old
dealer would show up in this area .  
Now I am the luckiest Bernina owner in CT.  We have a great dealer in Ginny
and Dennis Murphy.  They are fantastic!  I am seriously considering buying
the Bernina Deco 500.  No I don't need it, but it looks so neat!!

Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 17:46:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Bernina University

Debbie, will you post the details when you have them?

Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 21:36:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Leather rolling foot

Ida, The leather Roller Foot is great for machine quilting (I use mine for
machine Sashiko also).  Use far left needle position.  Tension is usually
normal and length is matched to fabric thickness.  In the bag is also a odd
little loop of metal, if your machine is a 1000 series you can throw this
away.  If it's a 930 or older you need to replace your needle clamp thread
guide with this piece.  Good luck and have fun.  Bev (Jim's other half)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 07:47:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Got a "new" machine

Gosh, after extolling the virtues of the 1080, which I still ADORE ... I'd
mentioned here that I am looking for a used 1090.  Went into my local Bernina
dealer yesterday and asked about used 1090's ... showed him posts of prices
on *new* 1090's from this digest.  Well... he said he could sell me a 1090
for $1400 ... but that he had FIVE 1260's that he was selling for $1781
(don't ask me how he got the figure; I didn't ask him!) ...  So I asked him
why it was so much less than last time I'd asked!  Turns out that these
machines were used for *one day* by an instructors at a quilt show; machines
are *owned* (he said) by Bernina ... and are technically *used*.  I asked if
the warranty stood, and could I get the lessons.  He said yes to both.  The
lessons turn out to be one Saturday morning ... is this what everybody else
gets?  He said there'll be a wait because five classes ahead of my name are
filled but that in the meantime he and his daughter would show me what I need
to know.  

There I was, looking for a well priced 1090 for the thigh lifter ... but was
fully satisfied with my 1080 and didn't feel I needed "more" than the 1090 to
get that feature.  BUT of course I'd enjoyed stitching away on Shirley's
1230, which has always been my dream machine, just more than I wanted to
spend.  But could I resist a 1260 at that price?  You bet I couldn't, so I
bit the bullet and DID IT!  

At this point I'd have to say that this dealer has become more responsive ...
and I rescind any criticisms I have in the past made.  Is there a lesson
here?  Maybe.  If there is, it's to not burn bridges with any dealer (I don't
have the guts, anyway) and to check back.  I like these people personally but
did not feel that I was getting the service Bernina promises, but I do think
they have changed the way they do busines ... even though they are the only
Bernina dealer for MILES AND MILES!

One question, now that I've bitten the bullet and "sprung" for this machine
of my dreams, I'd like to try machine quilting.  ANyone have suggestions for
books on the subject?  Would like to learn "hands on" more about it.  

Finally, $1781 for a 1260 seemed like an excellent price to me; comments?
 How does this stack up with others' experiences?

Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 09:02:54 -0500
Subject: FEET

Anyone who does machine applique and has not gotten the number 20 foot (open
toed embroidery), needs to run right out and buy one.  I got one at Quilt
America and used it for the first time yesterday.  It makes a world of
difference in being able to see where you are going.  I's sorry that I
waited so long :)

Subject: Re: Bernina University 
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 95 11:09:31 -0400

No details yet, but I'll be sure to post the info when I get it.
Ann's Fabrics seems to have trouble mailing things out in time
(sometimes I get their flyer about a day before the sale).  Here is
what the announcement in the most recent Ann's Fabrics flyer says:

Bernina of America and Ann's Fabrics Sewing Machine Centers is proud
to introduce Consumer Bernina University to the East Coast.

Place:        Hotel - to be announced
Date:         Friday October 27 through Sunday October 29, 1995
Information:  please call 617-828-2201 to reserve an information packet
              (available July 15, 1995)
Registration: be sure to register early and watch for our national ads
              in various sewing publications

Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 13:58:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Got a "new" machine


Congrats on the machine!  I am not sure on the price but it sounds good to
me.  I had a Viking #1 that I really enjoyed and then I was introduced to
Berninas and saw the difference, especially when it comes to quilting.  I
then bought a 1090 and love it!  I didn't see the need for a 1230 because I
decided to keep me Viking to have a second machine and for my kids.  It does
well on the cute stitches one uses with kids and I like the general ease of
use.  As you know, Sarah is already enjoying it.  I primarily use the 1090. 

I like Harriot Hargrave's book for machine quilting.  I also took a 3 hour
class at the Bee to get me started.  If you have access to something like
that I would recommend it.

I will enjoy looking at your mosaic book work.  I would love to see pictures
and a pattern.  Would it be very difficult to do by machine?  I would like to
learn to do more hand piecing and quilting, but I have not gotten myself
together to try.  

I will address your other message in more detail in a bit.  Now, I have to go
sew buttons on that dress for Emily.  She wants to wear it to church
tomorrow.  Have fun with that machine!
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 95 21:55:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Got a "new" machine

I think you got a great price.  Does anyone know what the differences from
the 1260 to the 1230 are.
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 95 21:56:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95

Hi my name is Mern,  I am on genie and I have a 1230  and a 2000de I have
been sewing clothing for almost 20 years and quilting for 7 years.  I have
only owned Beethoven and George for 3 years.  I worked and saved real hard
to get the ones I have as I was sewing on a singer before.  It was old.
I can't wait to get to know all of you and am very excited to be on the
bernie internet list.
I do have a question?  I have been reading about the leather roller foot,
Is that the one with the huge screw on the side.  I have that foot and have
only used it on leather, would someone explain to me how they are using it
for machine embroidery, or did they say machine quilting.  Thanks so much in
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 19:45:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/28/95 Judy Colwell

Thank you "sew much" for the nice compliments.  For those of you who are
dying to know - the Juki 634DE has all the features that I spoke about on the
serger recommendations.  So do two other of their models.  So does the
BabyLoc Eclipse, three other baby loc models, some of the Pfaffs and a few other 
models - of yes the Sears Kenmore (of all brands) does to.  But, in all honesty - 
I DO HAVE a 334DS and am a die hard Bernina lover and will always be.  The Juki 
and Bernina serger feet are exactly the same and the Juki sell for half price.  
Ouch!  Sorry dealers - but sometimes economics for us all is a way of life.  
If you want any more secrets, just ask.
Sew Sincerely, Sandy
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:22:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: quilting feet

Harriet said that the 29 foot was designed for hi loft batt, and that the 
9 was better for freemotion quilting.  I have both, and they seem the 
same to me except for the circle on the 29 is bigger.  Neither one is 
good for quilting colthing - they don't touch the fabric.  I have a BiG 
Foot, too (and adaptor), and I have a similar problem with it.  What do 
you use for free motion quilting?  Especially on clothing?

Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 00:06:41 -0400
Subject: Re: quilting feet

Hi Martha -
A darning foot is not supposed to sit on the fabric, but the #9 is lower to
the fabric than the #29 - as per Switzerland and a lot of experince.

I have been quilting for 13 years with a #9 and don't understand what is the
exact problems you are having. If you will e-mail me, maybe I can help.

Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:03:58 -1000 (HST)
Subject: 1530 MR

Hi all.  Here's a question for 1530 users.

The border program is:

MR  H1/11 + Mirror Image rt-lft + H1/111 + Balance+9

I save all to MR1; turn off my machine.  When I later recall MR1, the 
stitches are recalled, but not the Balance+9.

In the manual, under category FUNCTIONS, subject Memory states the 
free capacity is indicated on the left (max. 70 atitches/functions) etc.

However, Under category MEMORY, it states programming allows stitches, 
letters and numbers to be combined, saved and edited.  It does not say 
anything about recalling selected Functions that should have been saved 
with these stitches.

Is there a flaw in the memory program that the functions are not recalled
when the MR is toggled on at a later timeframe OR is this operator error? 
I've poured over the manual several times in finding the answer.  The
Bernina Center is closed so I'm hoping someone can provide the answer. 


CiCi W
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 07:23:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina DIgest 7/28/95 

I believe it is Juki, that makes part of the bernina serger?  Maybe that is
why the feet are the same.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 08:56:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/29/95

Way to go Addy!!!

Congratulations on your machine!  You will love it.  
The best way to learn about Machine quilting is to practice, practice,
practice.  You will get better.  I would reccomend Harriet's book, she has
some great quilting designs in there that you could trace to practice.  With
the machine you bought, you will be great at it in no time.  Don't give up,
keep trying.

Hug your machine.

Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 13:07:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina 1630

I am also a member of GEnie which has been forced to lurk for some time.
Hopefully this e-mail will reach the list.
I own a Bernina 1630 and the 2000DE serger.  I have been extremely please with
the stitch quality of the 1630.  I was concerned with the amount of negative
press lately in the computer services regarding this machine.  I have owned
mine for about a year now and probably sew more than ever.  I do mainly
clothing construction, but have started to do some more creative, crafty items.
I agree that somebody needs to provide a more detailed manual/guide for the
1630.  The current owners manual and advanced guide books are too general.  The
1630 Library is a nice stimulation for ideas.  I have found the Mary Lou Nall
books the most helpful in understanding the various feet.
That's my 2 cents worth!
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 16:38:39 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Re Quilting Feet

I use the walking foot and the open toe darning type foot for machine
quilting -- work GREAT.  The open toe (on Harriet's recommendation) really
gives you a great view.

I love using the darning style foot for freehand work.  I have to admit, a
friend of mine BROKE her Big Foot while we were at Vermont -- broke where it
attaches to the shank.  All plastic and I notice she really cranks down on
the screw.  When I asked about this, she reports that her machine( New Home)
feet loosen while sewing to the point that they come off!  I was shocked!
 Never had this problem on any machine...  Anyway, she used my mother's NH
darning foot to finish -- all metal.  I went back to my 'nina and appreciated
the unique foot design.

Mary Beth
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 10:12:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/29/95

Re:  Mern's note on differences between 1230 and 1260:  the differences are
VERY slight.  The 1260 has one additional alphabet and a slightly different
(Bernina claims "improved") memory.  Essentially, though, the machines do the
same things.  I fell in love with Shirley'sd 1230, and we've put the two
machines side by side, and they are comparable.  The big difference is 1260
is "today's" name for the 1230 with slight enhancements.  If I could have
found a used 1230 (before I found what I thought would be a bargain price)
I'd have been as happy with that (or, for that matter, a well priced 1090).
 I have to admit that I'm taken with the 1230/1260 features ...  --Addy
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 21:32:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Got a "new" machine

Mern, I think the main difference is the addition of an alphabet (maybe
script?)  there might be other things, but I can't think of them right now.
What about the 5 step buttonhole?  Did the 1230 have that? e
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 17:51:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Got a "new" machine

Hi All,

Sounds like a great deal to me.  I've priced both the 1090 and 1260.  Here in
Hollywood, FL  the 1260 are $2499.  I'm hoping to swing one soon.  Might have
to "settle" for the 1090 tho.  We'll see.....

Subject: Harriet's books
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 16:05:41 PDT


I am curious to know if Harriet Hargrave is planning to revise her Machine
Applique book as she did her Machine Quilting book?  I love the new hidden
ring binding on the new quilting book and hope she plans to do the same with
her applique book and I'll be right out the door to get one.  ;0}
Jean P
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 16:09:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/28/95

Not to be a nag but it would be great if everyone would try to be a 
little more accurate in their subject descriptions.  I love being on 
the list but I pay by the minute and some topics would be better served 
by direct e-mail.  I don't want to give up on the list but I do want to 
save money....doesn't everyone?  

Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 23:45:00 UTC
Subject: Deco 500 Questions

I'm wondering if I could get some help/advice here. I'm starting to think
about getting a Deco 500 and maybe the scanner. What kind of prices are out
there for these? The dealer in Albuquerque is advertising sale prices of
$1799 for the 500, and $1099 for the scanner, with an additional $200 off if
I buy them both.
In chatting with friends on GEnie, I find that there are some who can get
them for several hundred dollars less than that. As I mentioned, there is no
way I'll buy them from the dealer in ABQ and besides shopping for a better
price, I'd also like to find a dealer who gives good service and is
deserving of the purchase.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 21:12:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/23/95

Hi Bernina fans,
I, too, had the opportunity to attend Bernina University in Chicago earlier
this month.
It was a wonderful opportunity to attend classes with Kenneth King (that most
colorful personality and truly gifted teacher,) Sandra Betzina, Mary Lou
Nall, and Harriet name a few!  --- Harriet, if you read this,
I want you to know I thought your session was one of the most down-to-earth
and informative.  !Plus I learned that I have been using my walking foot

 I came back tired and inspired.

  I am excited to tell you Michigan people that the grand award winner of the
fashion show is teaching in Kalamazoo this fall.  E-mail me and I'll send you
the information flyer snail mail.  Jill Danklefson, the award winner of
Bernina University and Nancy Zieman "95 competition, I might add,  is also a
gifted teacher.  We'd love to welcome some Internet people to her classes!  
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 03:33:00 UTC
Subject: Harriet's books

Isn't Harriet on Aol,  I believe I heard here on genie that she is,  you
might want to ask her here,  I am aiding for her at the Belle Grove quilt
show this week in Winchester, Va, and can ask for you.  So I will post the
end of the week on this, okdky.
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 03:33:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Got a "new" machine

I don't believe my 1230 has a 5-step buttonhole.  I think mine is in 4 steps.
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 00:28:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Harriet's books

At this point in time the applique book will not be revised. First of all, I
do not have enough new information to warrant a revised edition, and second,
the applique book does not sell anywhere near the numbers that the quilting
book does, so the added expense would be hard to justify. Spread the word
about the applique book, and if sales go up, there might be a possibility. We
are changing the cover a bit to make it less confusing for consumers. Thanks
for the support and interest!!!! Harriet
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 01:24:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Deco 500 Questions

I just bought a Deco 500 and paid $1600. no scanner.  I live in Ohio and have
the greatest dealer in Perrysburg.  Corliss is her name.  Great classes and
always their to help.
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 04:16:00 UTC
Subject: Price for 950

A friend of mine has a 950 with a new motor in it that she would like to
sell. What kind of price might she expect? Thanks!
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:19:58 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 7/29/95

Once difference is that both beads (sides) of the buttonhole are sewn in
the same direction which assures that they are exactly the same length.
(comparasion of features between the 1230 and 1260).

Ruth B
Date:          Mon, 31 Jul 1995 08:49:24 EST5DST
Subject:       Harriett's book

You can take any soft-cover book to a copier business, like Kinko's 
or PIP printing, and they will remove the binding and spiral-bind it. 
 Several of our guild members took Harriett's machine applique class
 and did just that, so it would lay flat at the sewing machine. 
One guild member took several of Trudy Hughes' books and had 
them spiral bound as one large book.  Cost for a regular size book
 is about a buck.
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:10:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina 1630

Wendy, I have replied here and have never seen my notes, and will try again.
I also am a member of Genie and have a 1630.  I really like it and have just
purchased a Viking 1+.  It amazes me though how little info Bernina gives
you.  The software for the Bernina is just sitting gathering dust cause
there is so little info on how to use it and no ideas so to speak.  I also
have all the issues of the Bernina Library and am thoroughly unimpressed.  I
had an elna 9000 and loved the machine but was also saddened with the lack
of educatiion that was available.  Viking however is a different story.
They are overflowing with info.  I use the Viking for the hoop embroidery
mainly and still use the 1630 for construction cause I can push it hard and
also don't have the time right now to get used to a new machine for
construction.  I sure do wish that Bernina would give us more info to work
from.  I have a couple of the keys, but was real disappointed in the
selection. I expected better.  Still the stitch quality of the 1630 amazes
me and I love the buttonholes.   If I don't see this message and it actually
does go through will someone let me know. e
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:34:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Deco 500


The prices you said are about what I paid for mine in April in Illinois,
maybe about $50-$75 less. And I was getting a 20% discount from list price.
This is a machine that you want to be close enough to the dealer to take
lessons because you will need them. The machine itself is very
straightforward and easy to use, but you need lessons on the scanner, as the
manual tells you hardly anything.  I love my machine and scanner both but am
really only beginning to get into the scanner.

Mary M
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:18:03 -0500
Subject: Re:  quilting feet

I've recently been using the open toed #24 foot.  Looks just the #9 that comes
with the machine, but front is opened to allow better visibility.  This is
for free-form machine quilting.  I've used the #10 foot, with the feed dogs up,
for perfect stitch in the ditch quilting.  Just line up that little blade 
thing and go.  One thing that helps tremendously is the single stitch throat
plate.  I agree with Mary on this one.

When I first started machine quilting, I thought it would be a speedy, super
*fast* way to finish a quilt.  It is faster than hand quilting.  But you 
can't dash through any of the steps, IMO.  In fact, I take extra special in
the sandwiching process.  I have found that using all cotton materials (what
else is new?) helps - cotton batting is a must.  The batt I am using now is
that new thin one from Fairfield (I think, help me Addy.)  Anyway, it "clings"
the top and back and because it is so thin, really rolls up to a much smaller
bundle to wrangle under the needle.

Ida T
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:41:06 -0400
Subject: Demo Berninas and other topics.

If you are intriqued by Addy's purchase of a Bernina used in a quilt show,
you might ask your dealer if she/he can get you one through Bernina. The cost
savings is probably substantial. I believe my dealer said he could do this
for me when I was shopping for my 1630. Be warned though, obviously a dealer
would rather sell you a brand new machine. 

I bought the free motion quilting foot, and held it up to my darning foot,
and there is an obvious difference in the length of the shank. The quilting
foot is shorter. I traded it for the quarter inch piecing foot. 

I finished my first clothing item in a while over the weekend. I made a
sundress which was originally simple, but I was forced to seminole piece the
bodice, and then fully line it.... I had my 334ds and my 1630 set up side by
side. When it came time to gather the skirt to the bodice I called the dealer
and said "Hey, is there a foot to make this easier?" They said not really,
since you have to gather the skirt an exact amount. They suggested I set my
differential to gather, then lengthen the stitch length (I am sorry, I can't
quote settings, because I don't really know how to set up my serger, I just
do what I am told and I am too lazy to go upstairs and see, but if you know
how to set up your serger you can do this.) You stitch right along the edge
of the fabric, not chopping anything off. Then pull the two needle threads to
gather up the skirt. I marked the quarters of each piece and pinned those to
the bodice before I tightened up the threads. Then I pinned it, and basted on
my 1630 (which has a setting just to baste, what a joy). Then I ran it
through my serger again, using the right seam allowance. Voila!  I was so
excited I put it on and walked around all day with the serger threads hanging
off the sleeves.

Love Robbi
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:28:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina 1630
X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.)

 I sent that message before I finished it...BUT your message made it through. 
 Just thought I'd let you know.

Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 19:24:11 -0400
Subject: Congratulations Addy

Addy- you got a great deal on the 1260. You're gonna love it!  Be sure to
check out Harriet Hargraves book "Heirloom Machine Quilting". That's my
"Bible". By the way - your reference to the "thigh lifter" on the Bernina
made me wonder if it could help reduce thighs - maybe like the "Thigh
Master"? What a great excuse for spending more time at the sewing machine!

Happy quilting - Francyne
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 19:24:15 -0400
Subject: memory &functions

Sorry CiCi the Bernina memory does not include the balance function. You will
need to set this each time that you stitch it out.

Here's another stitch to try out as submitted to "The Creative Machine" by
Kathy Britton. It is a bridging stich using the honeycomb stitch with balance
+ 22 times (for 1630 people that's the double headed arrow pointing away from
each other)  and continuous reverse. She says that you may need to reduce the
upper tension and she likes to use two fine threads (60-weight embroidery
cotton) through the needle. Sew between folded or corded edges using a
pintuck foot (5 or 7 groove) to separate the fabric edges while sewing. You
might want to starch and press your fabric first.

Try it- you might like it! - Francyne
Subject: Re: Harriet's Books
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 16:23:39 PDT

Hi Mern;

I did copy Harriet at AOL and she did reply that the only change to the
applique book would be a new cover.  Thanks for your offer to help.  I
did send a msg. back asking when the book with the new cover would be
availabe.  You could check that out and let the online folks know, might 
sell a few more books, :0}.  Thanks again,

Jean P
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 19:27:04 -0400
Subject: Bernina Prices

If any of you are looking for a new Bernina and want a good price, go to a
quilt show.  At the Vermont Quilt Festival the Bernina dealer there had a LOT
of machines and was offering them at about a thousand off the list price
(upper end models).  They keep a lot of machines out of the box which makes
the machines "used" - another good way to get a price break.

I'm just glad I didn't see my machine for less than I paid for it!
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 19:24:27 -0400
Subject: Quilting design key idea

If any of you are looking for ideas for ways to use designs, I thought that I
would share a ready-to-wear embellishment project idea with you. I recently
purchased a plain white shirt with the intention to decorate it in some way.
I had also recently purchased the Quilt Design key for the 1630. I noticed
that there were several leaf and stem patterns. I chose one with a straight
stem and  stitched one motif between each buttonhole on my blouse. I used
variegated Sulky rayon thread. The thread that I chose was shaded from light
to dark and since this stem is sewn from bottom to tip, I made sure that I
started stitching each motif with the darker shade of thread. This resulted
in a leaf motif with the darkest leaves on the bottom and the lightest leaves
at the tip. It turned out great and now I am looking forward to cooler
weather so that I can wear my one-of-a-kind long sleeved blouse. 

Anyone else care to share an idea for using embroidery stitches?

Happy stitching from Francyne who loves her 1630
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 17:30 PDT
Subject: Harriet's quilting book

Hi Everyone!
A couple of months ago I remember a posting for an autographed copy of
Harriet's machine quilting book.  I neglected to save it and would like to
order one.  Did any of you happen to save it?
Cheryl R
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 21:55:45 -0600
Subject: Bernina Digest 7/29/95
Dear Bernina Fans,

I have done quite a bit of the free motion quilting as of late 
and with the metallic threads. I have found if you use the #24
foot and put the machine on 1/2 speed and use embroidery 
needles  you get the best results and its more fun when you 
don't break needles:>  I just got the comments back from the 
judges on the machine quiliting I did and I recieved an Excellent
for eveness of stitches and for that comment I thank my Bernina
1080 for without it we wouldn't have gotten such a nice compliment:>

Happy Stitching,

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