Bernina Fan Club Archives

December 94

Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 08:17:04 -0500
Subject: Price of 1630

I would go for the 1630 if you can.  As far as the price going up ... don't
let them push you.  I have found that the price is always negotiable.  We
paid $2500.00 for the 1630.  I also bought a serger at the same time, but was
happy with the price.

Let me know what you do.


P.S.  I haven't tried the interface yet, but am interested in it.  I use all
the stitches on the 1630 and really love it.
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 08:55:08 -0500
Subject: What's the Bernina fan club?

I just got a 1630. I was blown away by how quietly the machine runs. Ok, well
that's not why I bought it.
Please tell me more.

Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 09:10:49 -0500
Subject: difference of machines

First I want to say I love this group.  I've been reading some of the messages
about the different machines Bernina makes and would like to add my 2 cents.

I own the 1530 and just love it.  Of course about a month after I got mine,
Bernina came out with the 1630.  BUT the dealer where I got mine, who also
owns the 1530, felt it would be unwise to upgrade because she said the
stitch mechanism was different on the 1630.  One has an oscillating stitch
and the other has a different stitch-whose-term-I-can't-recall.  Anyway,
her opinion was that the satin stitch for which Bernina is so famous, was
more difficult to do on the 1630.  However, I have been attending 
Bernina Club at this same shop and the owners of the 1630 were producing
some amazing things.

So, 1630 owners, is there a difference?  Is the satin stitch easy on the 1630?

I know I won't upgrade, but I thought it was rather odd that someone who
sells Bernina machines would have that attitude.  The main reason I don't
plan to upgrade is that for what I do - *lots* of patchwork and a little
bit of clothing - the 1530 is more than sufficient.  I was truly interested
in a machine that would do free form quilting and this one is the answer
to my prayers.

Ida T
Subject: Threading "eye" of bobbin

You would thread the bobbin case just like you would for
any other thread.  What I mean by the "eye of the bobbin
case" is the piece of metal that sticks up at the top of
the bobbin case and has a small hole in it.  Forgive the
bad art, my stick figures always look like a pile
of sticks - no drawing talents at all!  On a computer
it will be worse!
                           |*| <--eye of the bobbin case
                          _| |_
                        _______ _
lever on bobbin case--> |_______) |
                       -          -
I'm assuming that Berninas still have this, no matter what model
one has.  I'm on my 3rd Bernina, and each of the bobbin cases 
have had this hole.  

If you are feeling like experimenting, put a light color thread
on your bobbin, a darker thread on top and then sew a regular seam
on a 3rd colored fabric (at least 2-3 layers).  Then take out
the bobbin and thread the eye (DON'T wrap the thread around the
post.  Keeping the bobbin threaded, put the end of the thread 
through the eye on the same side as where you insert the bobbin.  
When you put the bobbin in the machine, the  end of the thread 
should be toward you).  Sew another seam next to the previous one.  
Don't do any adjusting on the tension or stitch length.

I've used this procedure for buttonholes, satin stitch and some
decorative stitches where I don't want the bobbin thread
peaking through *at all*.

The "Banana Skirt" class went great!  Cutting out took the longest.
The whole skirt was serged and finished (except for straight
stitching the hem) in 30 minutes!  Love those classes that you
actually have enough time to FINISH the project!  Now to
make a matching blouse.

Mary G
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 14:16:25 -0500
Subject: quilt stitch recipe

The following is a quilt stitch "recipe" I received in a class.  The resulting
stitch looks like hand quilting.  This would be good for a wallhanging, or
something in which the back would not be noticeable.  From the back with
this stitch, the appearance is a solid line.  Anyway, here goes.  I am 
copying this over from another application so I hope it travels out there
in good form.


	mono thread - top
        	#8 jeans foot
        	regular throat plate (I use the single stitch plate a lot, so I would
        	have to change the throat plate for this stitch)

        	50 wt. cotton thread
        	top tension between 7 - 10  (the demo I saw used 9 - good results)
        	feather stitch - on my 1530 = G,2,7
        	width - 0
        	length - 4
        	balance - 2

Well, so much for that.  Mono thread is that fine nylon thread that is used
for invisible machine quilting.  The basic effort here is to take a feather
stitch and modify the settings so the length is longer and the width is

Ida T
Subject: Re: bobbin case #2
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 94 15:09:27 EST      

Jacque: just saw your posting from earlier in the week and had a question
for you, simply because you sell Berninas and seem to know of what you
speak.....I have a 1020 (only 2 1/2 yrs.) old, but nice to start out
with....anyway, as I do everything on the machine, my library is
accumulating at a faster rate than my UFO's. I have the bible of machine
quilting books, by Harriet Hargrave (wonderful person, if you ever get an
opportunity to meet her!) and it seems that she mentions never to adjust
the tension on the bobbin case as well. So-o-0, I bought a 2nd bobbin
holder from my dealer (would you believe he tried to talk me out of it?)
and have not had the courage to adjust any tension on this case #2.....for
fear of really screwing up the machine, I guess. 

Question: as I hold the case in my left hand, with the finger pointing
toward me, in which direction would I adjust the screw? I have never sewn
with metallic in the bobbin case. I have found machine embroidery thread
in the bobbin case works best, and I use a metallic schmetz for needles,
like a #14 embroidery needles that are fairly new on the market. The rayon
thread works best (in my machine) with a universal #12!.....any tips you
can give me would be appreciated. I have done stippling, but only with
Coates &Clark thread, not metallic or rayon in the top. worked well, and
had no problems, again with embroidery thread in bobbin.

Theresa George, with an uncomputerized Bernina, but still happily humming
away! I am faithful about cleaning (vacuuming) the machine after each and
every project is completed! And I oil it faithfully, almost as frequently,
but listen for the hum to tell me when it needs it! Hope that's right......

Date: Thu, 1 Dec 94 19:00:09 -0500
Subject: Archives Available

Hi Everyone, 

Thanks to everyone that responded to the test I ran.  It seems like the big 
header problem may be solved, (Or at least tolerable).  BCC option now works (My 
provider made a hardware change &that did it)  In the testing process, I sent a 
few postings to a friend of mine , just to see how the headers looked.  The 
postings were about bobbins.  I just have to include his response.  

"Yes, I'm getting BCC forwards!  Who was this from, Lorena Bobbin?"

Sorry, but i thought this was pretty funny.  Anyway, the postings of the list 
are being archived and can be retrieved by sending a request to
In the body of the message, please list the month of the archive you would like 
sent to you.  ie  Nov 1994  or 11/94  OR Nov 94  I will send the archive out to 
you asap.  Of course, at this moment, the only one available is Nov 94 : )
(With the Lorena Bobbin posting removed, of course)
Thanks again to everyone who helped with the test.
Sue T
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 08:23:44 -0500
Subject: Please let me join.

I am a brand new bernina owner. I machine quilt with metallic threads, and I
have been wondering if I should get the new bobbin case. I am still reeling
from buying the 1630 in the first place. So I want to be careful about
additional purchases. the group sounds interesting. I would like to be on
digest if you don't mind. Thanks. I am looking forward to this.

Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 09:35:39 -0500
Subject: Machine decision

Thanks to those of you who have expressed opinions on the various models of
Berninas and other machines.  I finally made my decision on Wednesday, and
next week will become the proud owner of a new 1630!  I also got a table to
go with it to save my neck when I do machine quilting.

For those who may not yet have decided, these are the reasons for my

I tested the Viking line, and was quite impressed with the embroidery
stitches, and what I felt was a more user-friendly interface.  If I was going
to do more embroidery, I might have gotten the top of the line model (or
rather waited for their new programmable model due out first of the year).
 It would cost about $500 more than the Bernina I got.  But I decided on the
1630 Bernina instead because:

1.  I really wanted the knee lift.  I have an industrial straight stitch
machine with a knee lift, and it is great especially when quilting.

2.  I got the 1630 rather than the other models.  I like the idea of the
infinite expandability of the computer interface.  I have a scanner, so there
will be nothing I can't scan in and then sew!  I will explore embellishing my
work with these capabilities.  I also like the ability to sew nicely in all
directions without turning your work.  That will be a god-send when quilting
a large quilt.  I liked the automatic buttonholer too, tho at the present
time I am not making clothes.

3. I think the largest problem with a fancy machine is knowing what it can do
and how it does it.  If you don't know how to use a particular foot, you
can't take advantage of it.  I got the Bernina for this reason, since the I
have you all to help me.  I also have the worlds greatest dealer, who is just
2 1/2 miles from my house!  She give excellent instructions and is willing to
help and answer any kind of question you may have.  She is a quilter herself
and she runs a Bernina Club for people who buy their machines from her, which
is basically a workshop a week to learn new capabilities and techniques to
use for your machine.  It is free if you buy from her!

This was in contrast with the Viking shop where they give you tapes to learn
by, no opportunity to come back to ask questions, and no one in the shop who
actually uses the machines.

Several people said to shop around for price.  I really liked this dealer,
and there were no ads for any other Bernina shops anywhere close (maybe 1-2
hours away for the next closest place), so I didn't do much shopping around.
  However, based on prices quoted that others on the list paid I guess I got
a good deal @ $2449, and the best dealer after sale!  Most said their best
price was $2500 after shopping around.

I can't wait to get started!

I will definitely be looking for all the great tips from this forum and will
report back any great stuff I learn in my classes too!

Idas comments on the new shuttle (I think it is a rotary shuttle) on the 1630
were interesting.  My dealer said that the earliest ones they came out with
didn't stitch as nicely as the 1530, but that they have now really perfected
it, and that the 1630 sews as well or better than the 1530.

Barb M
Date:           Sun, 4 Dec 94 17:23 EST
Subject:        RE: Quilt Stitch Recipe

Ida T writes:


>   mono thread - top
>      #8 jeans foot
>      regular throat plate (I use the single stitch plate a lot, so I would
>      have to change the throat plate for this stitch)
>      50 wt. cotton thread
>      top tension between 7 - 10  (the demo I saw used 9 - good results)
>      feather stitch - on my 1530 = G,2,7
>      width - 0
>      length - 4
>      balance - 2

I noticed that the single stich throat plate is not listed in the Bernina
accessories guide I have - and my dealer was not aware of one either.  Can
you purchase a single stitch throat plate for the Bernina?  Should my dealer
have known about this?

Also, does anyone know about how much this would cost?  I priced the extra
bobbin case this weekend (the black latch accessory item) and it is AU$70
(about US$50) which I thought was a little high. 


Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 21:22:30 -0500
Subject: Re:Quilt Stitch Recipe

The black bobbin case costs more than the regular. Try buying a spare regular
one and painting it with nail polish so you know it is the spare. It works
well for me!
Happy Quilting!
Marianne Y
Subject: Re:Quilt Stitch Recipe


I recently bought a straight stitch plate from my Bernina
dealer when I got my new 1530 and it was about $26.00.  So
yes your dealer should know about it.  Tomorrow I will ask
what an extra bobin case will run.

The only trouble I ever had with my 930 that I used for 12 
years was corrected by buying a new bobin case.  I guess I
just wore the poor thing out.  :0}

Jean P
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 01:52:43 -0500
Subject: marking the extra case

I was quoted about $39 US for the extra bobbin case. 

I wonder how they get away with charging extra just because one part is
black. I was told that that is the only difference.

I am having a problem watching soap operas while I sew. Thats not so bad, but
I really like to listen to Regis and Cathy Lee. I sew a little and have
entertainment while I pin or press. My new Bernina is interfering with the
reception on my very old black and white tv. I don't want a new tv. I could
rearrange the studio to get the Bernina on a different circuit, so I will
probably do that. I bought a new surge suppressor today. I had to decide if
the sewing machine is more like a computer, or more like a television set
before I could make up my mind. Mine cost $15. It didn't solve the rf

I am more concerned that my Bernina is putting off too much rf. Any comments?
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 08:20:15 -0500
Subject: Re:Quilt Stitch Recipe


I have heard that Bernina just came out with a single stitch throat plat
for the 1630, but since mine is a 1530, the throat plate has been available
since the day I bought it.

About the additional bobbin case.  Be careful and don't fall that line on
the "special black tab" bobbin case to keep it separate from the "regular"
bobbin case.  $50 is high.  I just purchase an additional bobbin case
for my machine at $35 - plus a 20% discount that my shop is offering.  (I say
my shop because after all I have bought there, I feel like I own the place.
Alas, that is not the case, I am just a customer.)  How do I keep the cases
separate?  I painted a very little dab of bright red nail polish on the
case that I fiddle with, the other bobbin case (the new one) has no marks
on it.  Works for me.  Bernina will charge you about another 10-20 bucks
for that little black tab.

While I was buying, I also bought the blind hem foot for my 2000DE serger and
hemmed my husband's t-shirt.  Works like a charm.

Now if I just had more time.

Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 08:20:11 -0500
Subject: machine quilting

I did my first free motion machine quilting this weekend with my new Bernina
1260.  Wow.  I had tried to do this with my old singer and it made me crazy.
 What I did with the Bernina looked pretty good after only 15 minutes of
practice.  Any suggestions or comments?  Are there things I should know?

Many thanks.  Kelly
Date:         Mon, 05 Dec 94 08:49:59 EST
Subject:      Sewing machine tables

Someone (whose name I deleted with the message, sorry!) mentioned
investing in a table for a Bernina to save her neck while machine
quilting. Having placed my beautiful new 1260 on my old card table, I'm
considering shopping around for a new table. What are other people
using? I'm tall and finding that my neck hurts after a sewing session.
Any ideas? Thanks.
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 10:05:22 -0500
Subject: Metallic thread in bobbin case

Hi all!

Well, I tried it and it works :-)))))!  I used Sulky brand metallic thread
and it worked pretty good.  What worked the best was the Sliver thread made
by Sulky.  Do not use Coats and Clarks' metallic thread, it frayed and jammed
continually on me :-(.  the Sliver thread looks like tinsel and is real
smooth to the touch.  I wound the bobbin approx. 1/3 full and put muslin on
the top.  I drew my design on the muslin (back) side of the quilt and went
for it!  It was very smooth and easy and the gold thread showed up
beautifully on the other side (top).  The only caution I must state is the
thread unwinds itself from the bobbin very easily when it is not in the
bobbin case.  Also, I did not have to change my tension, I probably would
have to with the Coats and Clark thread but the Sulky is the best!

Thanks to you all for your advice on this project!  The Christmas Tree skirt
came out gorgeous!

Piece in peace,

Pat O
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 12:27:29 +0500
Subject: Table

I love this list!  I plan to get a 1630 in the next few months.  I
"test sewed" it at a local dealer and fell in love with it.  Now
I just have to save the bucks to buy it.

Several folks have mentioned a Bernina table.  I saw several sewing
machine cabinets there, but nothing specifically for Bernina.
Does Bernina make furniture for their machines?  If so, what kind?
Is the table that Georgia Bonesteel uses (on her PBS show) a
Bernina table?  

Thanks folks!
Monica T
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 1994 14:02:18 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: bobbin case #2

>Subject: Re: bobbin case #2
>Date: Thu, 1 Dec 94 15:09:27 EST
With reference to the below, my sister taught me the following:

        "Righty - Tighty ;  Lefty - Loosey"

So... if you want to tighten the tension, move to the right (clockwise).
If you want to loosen the tension, move to the left (counterclockwise).

This works for screws, bolts, water faucets, etc., also.  Great rule!

Date:           Mon, 5 Dec 94 18:01 EST
Subject:        RE: Sewing Machine Tables

This seems to be the season for sewing machine tables.  This weekend I looked
at the Horn tables.  It seems there are quite a number of different styles
but no one table with ALL the features I would like (of course it always
works that way).  I would suggest visiting a dealer that sells sewing machine
cabinets and spend some time looking at the brochures.  I feel fairly lucky
that here in Sydney there are 4 sewing machine dealers within one shopping
area (Chatswood) and they all have one or more cabinets on display.  So
between the different shops, I was able to see several of the cabinet models.
But in no way did I see all the styles Horn offers here in Australia.

All the display models I got to see had the foot pedal control for raising
and lowering your machine.  To me this is important.  But I was disappointed
to find that they had pre-set settings for machine height.  Seems to me they
should have some adjustment so you can position your machine table to be flat
with the sewing table surface and not the one height fits all.

I did find one Horn table (that was not in any of the brochures I picked up)
that has a cutting table on the back of the sewing cabinet.  It is the length
of the cabinet then about 3-4 feet wide.  The cutting portion folds down.
This looks EXTREMELY handy for machine quilting.  It is an add-on feature for
only this one cabinet.  Unfortunately the cabinet was one of the smaller ones
with not near as much storage as I would like.  I asked it I could get the
cutting table as an attachment on any of the others - especially since it
appears to just be attached by a couple hinge braces.  But the dealer I
talked to said Horn did not do any special requests.  I saw this at the last
place I visited and think I will go back and inquire at some of the other
dealers about it.  Don't know if it is Horn that won't attach it or the
dealer that won't request it.

From my states-side days, another place to look is at cabinet shops - places
that deal solely in built-in and pre-fab wall-to-wall cabinets and
entertainment centers.  In Phoenix there were a number of these types of
shops.  They had wall-to-wall office centers, fold down wall beds, etc.  One
that was not far from our formerhome had a sewing center on display.  I added
it to my list for my "dream home".

Good luck.

Date: Mon, 05 Dec 1994 18:45:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine Tables

Don't forget the how high your chair is!  It's what bothered my back - but I'm
really short.

Date: Mon, 05 Dec 1994 18:46:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Table

I don't know about the show (I don't get much T.V.) but my table was made for my
Bernina - however that was 15 years ago.

Date: Mon, 5 Dec 94 18:53:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Table

>Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 12:27:29 +0500

>Several folks have mentioned a Bernina table.  I saw several sewing
>machine cabinets there, but nothing specifically for Bernina.
>Does Bernina make furniture for their machines?  If so, what kind?
>Is the table that Georgia Bonesteel uses (on her PBS show) a
>Bernina table?  

I don't know what Georgia Bonestell uses, but I bought what was called the 
"Quilters table".  It's made especially for the 'Nina.  Provides an enourmous 
surfacce even with the machine.  A really big change from the card table.  It 
was worth every penny.  My no longer aching back thinks so anyway. : )
Sue T
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 1994 18:43:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Marking the extra case

My Bernina also interferred with the radio.  This sounds dumb, but all I had to
do was move the radio to a higher spot.  Yes, it's electric not battery
operated. But it could have been that I listened to one to many country songs
about somebody leaving?!

Date:           Mon, 5 Dec 94 18:53 EST
Subject:        RE: Sewing Machine Tables

I seem to be getting in more than my $.02 worth this on this but...

A very important consideration to go with a new sewing machine table is a
VERY GOOD CHAIR.  I believe Harriet Hargrave discusses this in her book as
well.  I can not believe I waited so long but one thing I did purchase
recently to go with my new 1230 was a good secretary's chair for my sewing
room.  The height is easy to adjust - there is a lever on the side that lets
it adjust up and down.  Also the back adjusts easily.  I can make any of the
adjustments from sitting in the chair - I don't have to get up or turn the
chair over to adjust the height and the back.  I think if I had to basically
stand on my head to adjust the chair (like I have to for my chair here at
work!!!), I wouldn't do it.  Adjustments during the sewing process has
really, really helped the fatigue factor.  I found that I like a higher
height when piecing than I do when machine quilting.  And I can now go for
hours without back pain.

Several dealers offered to sell me a chair with a sewing table - and Horn has
a bench to match any of their tables.  The dealers price for secretary chairs
were almost twice what I can purchase the same thing from an office supply
store.  And the bench is not adjustable nor is there any back rest.  The
folding chair I had been using looks more comfortable than the bench...

Also note on the cutting table attached to the sewing table from earlier mail
- the extra foldout table looked like a good deal for supporting the quilt
during the machine quilting process, but it would not work for me as a
cutting table.  The table is way too low...  in fact I don't think I could
rotary cut on it at all.  So I don't know if the extra money would actually
be worth it (versus the price of a small folding table to use instead).

Judy D
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 1994 21:12:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 12/4/94

I agree with Marianne about getting an extra bobbin case for use when you
need to adjust bobbin tension, marking it with nail polish so you know which
is which.  DO NOT adjust the tension on one of them, and use that one for
regular sewing.
    As for the throat plate, I understand that a throat plate is available
with just a single needle hole, not like the elongated zigzag plate that is
standard with the machine.  I don't have info on what one costs, but I do
believe B. dealer should have known about it.  The ones around here do.  I
can find out for you, Judy Danz, if you will email me.  
    Mary E
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 21:49:54 -0500
Subject: black latches

I went to check on the price of a black latch case and some feet for my 1630.
I was told that the black latch cases have a stronger spring than the regular
case, hence the higher price. But $20 seems a lot to pay for a spring. But
that is moot, so far they said there is not black latch case for the 1630. I
was also told the walking foot would be available in March.

Does anyone have a source for 1630 bobbins cheaper than $1.50? Can I mail
order them?

Date:           Mon, 5 Dec 94 22:31 EST
Subject:        RE: Throat Plate

Mary E wrote:

>     As for the throat plate, I understand that a throat plate is available
> with just a single needle hole, not like the elongated zigzag plate that is
> standard with the machine.  I don't have info on what one costs, but I do
> believe B. dealer should have known about it.  The ones around here do.  I
> can find out for you, Judy Danz, if you will email me.  
>    Mary E

Thanks to everyone for all your great comments.  I called the actual service
center about getting a throat plate and the guy I spoke to said he can get
them for the 1230 only (huh????).  I thought it seemed strange since it was a
1230 I was inquiring about and wonder if that is all he has in stock.

Getting a price is another story.  He will have to get back to me on that.  I
actually don't know what to expect when he calls back, but with all the great
replies, I will know if it is way out of line.  

Subject: Bobbin Cases
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 15:20:26 +0800 (WST)   

The price of the extra bobbin cases for the 1630 sound really high.  I paid
$22.50 less my 10% Bernina club discount here in Perth, Australia. (The Aussie
$ is valued at about 0.76 US$). I'm told here ther is only one bobbin case out
for the 1630.  The 1530 has 2 and are priced considerably higher (50-60) range.

I pay A$1.10 for bobbins and right now they are on Christmas special for less.

My best investment has been my $25 membership in the local Bernina Club.  They
have a special price on the foot of the month and always give you 10% off on
everything else (likr the software for the 1630).

By the way I got to play with the software.  The documentation is lousy but the
program is easy to use and lots of fun.  I get my new upgrade board installed
while we're on vacation and then, I'll have to figure out how to get the
computer and sewing machine in the same room (a loptop would be nice!).
Kay L
Subject: Help with silk!!
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 94 23:58:10 PST

I have a friend who is doing some wonderful painting
on silk and would like me to embroider her name in
gold thread on some of her pieces that she is using 
for Xmas gifts.  

I know that I will have to use tear-away and what will
this do to silk?  I have only used metalic thread in
the top and fine embroidery thread in the bobbin and 
this would not look good on scarves for example.  If
I use the larger eyed needle for metalic thread won't 
it make big hole in the silk?

I would die if I ruined her work!!

I would really apreciate any ideas you might have.


Jean P
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 1994 08:14:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Tables and chair

When our local quilting shop went out of business (sad), I bought the two 
kinds of tables available at the time.  The shop sold Berninas, and I can't 
remember the Brand of the tables, but they are often sold with 'Ninas.  My 
favorite table and one I will always keep is the waist high fold=out table.  
It has two leaves that open out to a large surface.  Because it drops its 
leaves, it can also fit in a small space till needed.  I keep it open all the 
time. It has a little drawer in it.  Best investment I ever made, as I baste 
on it, and usually junk it up with projects in process. I confess, I am a 
messy worker.  My 'Nina sits in the other one--but I am not so happy with it.  
It is a larger clunkier version than what I have seen at another Bernina shop. 
The machine drops down into a hole, and that's fine.  But the place where the 
machine rests can fold down--if your machine's not in it of course.  The back 
of the table is wide, and that is good for holding the bulk of your work.  I 
keep thinking of giving this one to my duaghter and buying a newer, sleeker 
version to put my machine.  I don't like it because it is so big and clunky. 
Not a space saver.  But if you have the rooom.....

A secretary's chair is a MUST.  And that was on my Christmas wish list this 
year.  I wonder if I will get it, or a sweater??? I'll let you know.  

Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 08:47:55 -0500
Subject: Re:  Mettalic Thread in Bobbin Case

How did you wind the bobbin?  Just like regular, or by hand?

Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 08:58:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Sewing Machine Tables


I have the Horn sewing table.  I thought the raising/lowering feature was
important, but you know what?  I leave my sewing machine *UP* all the time.

I have never put the thing away.  Never know when I'll have a few minutes to
spare, or more to the point, need a sewing fix.

With the Horn, I was able to purchase two additional modular units - one is
a set of drawers, and the other is a cabinet that will hold my serger and is
connected to my sewing table by a side drop leaf.  I also leave my serger
out all the time, sewing the cabinet to store it is used for additional

I did have to buy a special knee lift to accomodate the Horn sewing table.
And I do agree with you on the adjustable height for the sewing table - it
would be *very* nice, but I don't know any who have this feature.  So, I have
an office chair with a pneumatic lift that easily adjusts, but that doesn't
keep my feet from dangling.

Sorry for the typos above (sewing the cabinet is supposed to read "so the 

If you know who does custom cabinet work, you may be able to get the sewing
table/cabinet of your dreams, but be prepared to spend $$$$.

Good luck.

Date: Tue, 6 Dec 94 06:13:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Re:Table

How much does the quilting table cost?

Lynette E
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 94 06:15:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Re:Sewing Machine Tables

How much does the table cost?

Lynette E
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 14:03:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: bobbin case #2

   I just came in today to read your message.  All the cleaning things 
sound great.  I should vacuum mine out more often but am faithful about
oiling my machine.  I once burned out a motor on a machine because I did
not know about that important young life.  

  Sitting at the computer, and not the machine, I can't tell you what way
to turn the screw.  I will go to work on Thursday night and can play 
around with our demo model.  I will get back to you next Tuesday.  One thing
that screw has only about three threads so unscrew over a table or 
something so if the screw falls out you can find it.  Will get back to you
on this.    
                 Happy Quilting,
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 94 10:23:39 +1100
Subject: Please sign!

Hi Bernina Lovers,
A simple request, please sign your name and add your email address to your 
postings .... I personally enjoy knowing whose note I am reading ........ 
better than from a 'Phantom Quilter'.

The Bernina table from our local shop is higher than normal, too high for a 
machine, but excellent for cutting out, tacking quilts etc. It is made in three 
segments, central portion has drawers and cupboard underneath and the sides 
fold down to help with storage. Then when required, one or both sides can be 
folded out to give a total size of approx 1m X 2.5m. My friend who bought one, 
says it's terrific and has really saved her back, especially with cutting 
strips and sandwiching quilts. On reflection, they do have (in the shop) their 
demo 1630 set up on a machine table that also holds an overlocker.

At home, I have a large worktable (8' X 4') that I had made by cabinetmaker and 
in one corner had a recessed and suspended section that holds my 1230 with the 
extension table of machine sitting flush on top of worktable. My kneelift fits 
thru open side of suspended's marvelous. Although, I have to 
admit that my ergonomic chair is the best $300 I ever spent, this table would 
come a close second.
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 94 18:40 MST
Subject: BERNINA 1130

Hi everyone,  Could anybody please tell me the going price for a 
used 1130--great condition--with a walking foot, a couple of
other extra feet, extra bobbins--several instruction books and of
course, the lifter and case.  Local dealer  is having a B sale,
1630 for 2500   1530 for 2200   1260 for 2100.  Would appreciate 
any info.  Thanks,  Jona 
Date:           Tue, 6 Dec 94 20:43 EST
Subject:        RE: Re: re: Sewing Machine Table

>- the extra foldout table looked like a good deal for supporting the quilt
>during the machine quilting process, but it would not work for me as a
>cutting table.  The table is way too low...  in fact I don't think I could

The cost of this table is AU$499 (approx US$369) with the foldout cutting
table.  The table had 4 plastic storage bins on the swing-out door that hids
the machine when folded up.  The storage bins were kinda small (4"deep x
6"long).  Plenty of room to add some of your own if you were so inclined and
there was room with the door closed.  On the otherside was two shelves and a
storage area for an overlocker.  There was a small fold out leaf that the
overlocker sat on when in use.  The cutting table is an accessory for
AU$69/AU$51 (so this means that the cabinet without the cutting table must
have been AU$430/US$318).

Most of the Horn cabinets I looked at were in the price range of AU$369-499
(US$275-369).  The top of the line Horn lists here for AU$699 (US$520).  It
has two fold out areas with shelves and also an extra "wing" with drawers and
storage area for a serger.  The plastic storage bins include 6 bins that
swing open and have organizers inside for things like spools, bobbins and
other small items.  Then below that there are 2 nice big bins (about 6-8"
deep x 8-10" long).  

Date:           Tue, 6 Dec 94 20:14 EST
Subject:        RE: Tables and Chairs

> A secretary's chair is a MUST.  And that was on my Christmas wish list this 
> year.  I wonder if I will get it, or a sweater??? I'll let you know.  

If you don't get it, I would check out the after Christmas pre-inventory
sales.  I have been "looking" at them for the past couple years - and have
watched the prices drop!!!  I bought my chair at a furniture store that
carries a lot of inexpensive pre-fab desks and shelve units that you take
home and assemble yourself.  I paid AU$100 (US$75).  Two years ago this same
chair would have run twice that much at least.  Things like a pneumatic lift
and 5 point base (rather than 4) were always extra money.

I think the chair was worth it and wished I had not waited so long.  I spent
all weekend at the sewing machine and did not have any problems with back
pain.  I use to have a lot of pain in the middle of my shoulder blades but
this weekend I had no pain at all and both days spent many, many hours
sitting at the machine.

Date: Wed, 7 Dec 94 08:42:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Sewing Machine Tables

Thanks for the info, I really need a table but have been procrastenating.

Lynette E
Subject: Re: Metallic Thread in the Bobbin Case
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 94 9:10:03 PST
> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 08:47:55 -0500
> Subject: Re:  Mettalic Thread in Bobbin Case
> How did you wind the bobbin?  Just like regular, or by hand?
> Ida

Hi Ida;

Would you please post this to the net or send me your answers to your 
question?  I would really appreciate it.  :0}


Jean P
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 94 13:45:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Bobbin Cases

Is your software for the Mac or the IBM?
I have a 1630 also. Am hoping there will be Mac software.

Lynette E
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 22:13:05 -0500
Subject: Talkin' and sewin'

The only thing I don't lilke about my 1230 is that I can't talk on the
cordless phone near it when it's on!  And it's so quiet, I could sew and
talk, if there weren't so much interference.  So much for trying to do 2
things at once!
Subject: Re: Bernina Software
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 13:14:09 +0800 (WST)

to answer the question about the 1630 stitchdesigning software

It is an IBM Windows program.  I didn't ask if they were planning a MAC version
(my SO doesn't like MACS for a variety of reasons so I'll probably never get
one).  It can import a variety of graphics formats and then you can use these
as a template to design your own stiches using straight stitch, triple stitch,
and zig-zag.  The feature I like most is the way it has a curve fitter (spline,
I think) so curves are smooth without putting in too many points.  You have the
option of using this or not.  the only complaint I heard from the demo person
was that it was easy to get the stitches too close together when working on
enlarged pictures.

I am working from memory as I am having my machine upgraded while I'm on
holiday and will get the software from Santa.

Kay L
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 08:34:32 -0500
Subject: winding bobbins with metallic thread

I have been asked to post the response to my "how to wind the bobbin with
metallic thread question".  I would love to, but I zapped it and I don't
trust my memory.  Or more to the truth, I didn't quite understand it.

So, dear soul who *originally* told us all about the wonderful tree skirt
that you recently machine quilted with metallic thread in the bobbin and 
regular thread through the needle so you quilted the skirt upside down (whew) -
will you please post instructions to the group as to how you wound the bobbin?

Maybe the second time I read it, I'll understand it.

Ida T
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 09:09:57 -0500
Subject: Re:Throat Plate

I have a single hole throat plate for my 801 that I use for all of my
straight stitching. It avoids that occasional mass of threads down below the
throat plate that grinds your machine to a halt. It is almost a necessity if
you are using the Little Foot. Just don't forget and switch to a zig-zag.
It's a real wake-up call.
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 20:24:45 -0500
Subject: Bernina table

I was the one to mention the table first when I purchased my new 1630.  I
decided on the Model 5000-N Sew'N'Go II by Ideal Creations Products of
Westmont IL (708-654-8671).  It is a formica type laminate with a cabinet on
the left with drawer inside.  The over all dimensions are 24 x 48 closed and
35 x 48 open.  I liked the accommodation of the knee lift and the extra deep
table behind the sewing machine.  I give access to the bobbin at all times.
 It does not feature a pneumatic lift.  I felt that, like the other
commentator, I would always have it out anyway, and the extra $700 I could
use to better good.  Mine cost $325 from Village Fabrics in Old Lyme, CT.
 BTW my dealer may be joining us soon as I gave her the subscribing
information today.  Her expertise will add to all of our knowledge, I am

Have been trying all my new 1630 features in the past few days, and *love*
the great stitches and mostly the easy way to avoid thread tangling in the
bobbin and easy cut of thread!

Barb M
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 08:20:10 +0500
Subject: Christmas goodies

I got a newsletter yesterday from my local Bernina dealer announcing some
Bernina goodies just in time for Christmas.  Here's what was listed:

- Bernina Designer 1630 PC Softward Version 1.0
    Create your own designs, import clip art or scanned designs and turn pictures
    into stitch designs.  Requires IBM compatible, 386 or higher + Windows 
    3.0 or later + 2 MB RAM and 4 MB hard drive space.
- Design Keys 
    "Christmas" and "Celebration" Each contains 20-25 designs plus templates
    for easy positioning and placement.
- Key case 
    Lined 6"x9" case for 1630 Information Key, Memory Keys, etc.
- Straight stitch needleplate
- Ruffler
    New sturdy construction
- 9 mm Zig-Zag Presser Foot #57C with Teflon base
    Great for leather, plastic, etc
- Seam Guide with Ruler
    Use for cording, couching, braiding, embellishment on all Bernina machines.

It also announced the new Bernina Embroidery machine - DECO 5000.

I'm not a dealer or anything.  I'm still saving for the 1630.  This newsletter
also announced a "6 months same as cash" for Berninas so maybe I'll take
them up on it.  There was supposedly a price increase on Dec 1.  Anybody
know how much?

Happy holidays!
Monica T
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 22:44:56 -0500
Subject: Metallic Thread in Bobbin Case

Hi all!

This posting is to answer Ida's plea and any other interested folks....yes,
putting the metallic thread in the bobbin case worked perfectly! :-)))))) 

Do not use Coats and Clark, it frays and breaks non-stop.  It is also very
rough to the touch (probably why it frayed).  I used Sulky brand metallic
thread next.  Their regular metallic worked ok but I was intrigued by the
"sliver" style of metallic thread they sell so I bought some to try.  It
looks and feels like tinsel!  This worked the best for my project, and it
also looked the best!

I wound the bobbin like I always do with regular thread, but I only wound it
1/3 to 1/2 full.  I also did not wrap the thread around the knob(?) on the
left side, I just used it as a guide (excuse my wonderful terminology but
half the things I use or talk about is usually called a duhickey).  Normally
I wrap the thread around so they kind of "cross"over each other,  this time I
just passed around it (boy I'm still not making sense am I?)

Anyway, the "sliver" (note not silver) thread unwinds itself very easily so
get it in the bobbin case quickly.  After that I just went for it! :-)  I did
not make any adjustments to the tension on the bobbin case.   I made this
tree skirt for a friend/client and I've taught this class twice and this was
the first time I quilted using metallic thread.  I highly recommend using the
Sulky brand and not the Coats and Clark.  

Thank you again Bernina fans for all of your responses and suggestions!

Piece in peace,

Pat O
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 94 08:37:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Christmas Goodies

I'd like one of everything, please.!  Actually, I'm dragging DH off the the 
'Nina store this morning to buy me another present, the 'Nina software.  
Sue T
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 20:33:01 -0500
Subject: Re: metallic thread

Hi Barb and all you Bernina lovers!

I just recently posted a "summary" of my use of the metallic thread, however,
it may not have been clear.  I used the Sulky "sliver" thread in the bobbin,
wound 1/2 full by the usual bobbin winding method except I didn't do a
"cross-over wrap" on the "knob" on the top left of the machine I just passed
around it.  I used just plain muslin colored thread on top (Mettler) and a
Metalfil needle (for use with metallic threads - Schmetz).  It worked
beautifully!  I also did not change any of the settings on the bobbin case
nor on the thread tension guide.

Hope this helps!

Piece in peace,

Pat O
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 13:39:20 -0500
Subject: Re: metallic thread in bobbin

In regard to using metallic thread in the bobbin, Pat O'Brien wrote: >> I
used just plain muslin colored thread on top (Mettler) and a Metalfil needle
(for use with metallic threads - Schmetz).<<  If the metallic thread is in
the bobbin and not going through the needle eye, why would you need to use
the Metafil needle? I thought the purpose of that was to keep the metallic
from fraying while going through the eye.  

Mary M
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 08:49:40 -0800
Subject: why use metallics in bobbin?

Sorry to be dense, but why use metallics in the bobbin anyway?  Why 
not just use them on the top spool?

Sulky's Sliver is actually very fine mylar, so it's not hugely strong. 
 Furthermore, who knows how long it will last (I've heard lately that 
the .004 nylon thread deteriorates within a couple of years - maybe 
mylar has the same problem?)

Finally, it's so much easier to quilt stuff working on the topside.  
When you work on the bottom, you can't see what you're doing.  Or at 
least, I've never had much luck that way.

Here's what I do: Sliver on the top spool, well lubricated with 
Sewer's Aid, and a matching polyester thread in the bobbin.  Tension 
loosened to about 2-2.5.  Quilting done "right side up".  Works like a 

Tell me more, I'd love to hear the rationale behind why some people 
want to complicate their lives!  (grin grin)

Date: Mon, 12 Dec 94 18:18:35 -0500
Subject: Help w/sideways motion

I tried to use the sideway motion motifs this weekend for the first time &I'm 
having a awful time getting the sides even.  I tried the balance (mostly 
vertical), but it didn't seem to help too much.  One side is always too lonng or 
to short, or worse, the pattern starts to overlap.  What does everyone else w/ 
the 1630 do.  I bought the new Christmas key and have been trying to do some on 
a quilt I'm embellishing.  What do you use for backing?  Should I have to mess 
around with the balance at all?  
Sue T

PS: Have the 1630 software coming in in time for X-mas.  Will send in a report 
when I get it loaded up &have a chance to play with it.  : )
Date:           Tue, 13 Dec 94 1:11 EST
Subject:        Pressure foot tension

On my 1230, I did some satin stitching this weekend and from previous posts,
knew what to look out for.  For a narrow satin stitch, I found I definitely
had to use one of the applique feet (#20 or #23) to keep the stitches from
backing up.  The zig-zag foot did not work.  Also I found that machine speed
impacted the uniform look of the overall piece.  To have a nice even stitch,
I went at a steady, fast speed.

Another element that affected the look was the backing used behind the
stitch.  I had some cheap muslin I thought would do great - this is a quilt
block so I planned to just cut away the backing when it was all done.  But I
found that paper worked much, much better than muslin - and was much, much
easier to remove too!!!  Althouh I swear I can just see that needle getting
duller and duller with each stitch...

What I had the most trouble with was when attempting to cross a seam or
another line of satin stitching - it would just halt the forward movement of
the fabric and cause the stitches to back up.  I did not try adjusting the
tension on the pressure foot.  Actually, I have been quite stupid about this
and while I was sitting here working on a problem related to work (and not
quilting) it came to me how to adjust the tension of the pressure foot - use
the knee pedal stupid!!!  But I don't know how coordinated I will be trying
to dynamically adjust the pressure foot and keep the machine running at a
nice even speed (to keep the satin stitch uniform).  Any suggestions?

This has been a wonderful forum - the hints have been great.  I can not find
any of the books about the bernina here in Sydney yet.  I may have to wait
until I visit the states next spring - so this mail list has been a godsend.


Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 09:03:23 -0500
Subject: quilting with embroidery stitch

Has anyone tried quilting using one of the fancy stitches available on the
1630?  I would like to do this, but wonder if I will get the fabric shift
problem as the 1630 doesn't have an available walking foot at this time, and
my project needs to be finished before they will have it out.  I will be
working on a 45" x 45" piece, but will do this fancy stitch in small,
possibly 10 x 10 inch sections only.  The rest I will do with outline and
free-hand machine quilting.

Also, all this stuff about working from the back and having thicker threads
in the bobbin has given me an idea.  Would it work to mark your quilting
pattern on paper or tear-away fabric and place it on the back, (carefully
aligning the pattern with pins from the front)?  Then you could quilt with
great accuracy over the pattern lines, and then tear away the pattern
afterwards. (Kinda like with paper piecing.) This would prevent any need for
marking the top (or taking out the dreaded marking pencils).  Again, I wonder
about shifting of the fabric.  One could do it with free-hand quilting but
with less accuracy than with just regular stitching.  If I did this, should I
stretch the top and lay the batting and bottom on top, treating the bottom as
the top?

Advice please!  I need to finish this thing before Jan 5!

Barb M
Date: 13 Dec 1994 08:27:46 -0600
Subject: 1630 Large Motif Bal. Problems

I too had balance problems on my machine, and it had to be adjusted by the
dealer.  It affected the large motifs, such as the christmas tree, palm tree,
and kitty cat.   I also had a tension problem which caused the bobbin thread
to be wiggly, instead of perfectly straight on the plain straight stitch. 
The motifs have been adjusted, but the straight stitch is still not perfect
depending on the fabric used.  My machine had to be shipped off to Chicago to
be adjusted, and my dealer was nice enough to give me a loaner 1630, so I
really couldn't complain about the service or the time it took to get my
machine back.  (I'm one of their regular customers).  

I would be interested in knowing about the two new keys which were released
recently, the Christmas and Celebration Keys.  How much did they cost, and
what motifs are on them?    

Good Luck,
Phyllis G
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 94 08:52:49 cdt
Subject: new subscriber


          Thanks you Sue for this Bernina group!  I have had a Bernina
          830 for about 13 years and I love it!  However, time and
          technology march on and I'm working a second job to get
          money for my 1630.  I don't know what it does (besides
          everything) but I'm really excited about finding out!!

          You probably all know that the trade-in value on the 830 is
          practically nothing--about $300.  My teen-age daughter is
          getting mine (graduating from a Bernette) and she's almost
          as excited as I am.

          I'm mostly a quilter, although I do sew clothes and things.
           Do all the feet that I need come with the 1630?  I KNOW I
          need a 1/4" foot, a cheater foot (edge stitcher) and a
          walking foot.  Is there anything else I can't live without?
           Since I'm buying it out of town, I'm hoping you experienced
          1630 owners will be able to help me out.

          Generally, I'm a quilting teacher part-time, a mother of
          two teen-agers (who don't drive yet), and I am working two
          part-time jobs.  I'm looking forward to getting to know more
          about all of you.

Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 15:42:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Pressure Foot Tension

l want to say THANK YOU!  I have been making a "golfing" quilt for my in-laws
for Christmas and am embelishing, etc.  I had a tough time with the satin
stitch last night.  I'm using silk threads, metalics and what not so I'm
paying more attention to what is happening with the thread.  I completely
FORGOT about changing the foot on my machine.  I just checked to see what I
have and pulled out the number 20.  Thank you so much.  I don't know what
adivce I could give you, but you sure gave me a lot and reminded me to pay
attention to the foot.  Must be the time of year - I'm climbing the walls.

Take care,
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 09:55:31 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Bernina 1630 Software

Sue, Well, HOPEFULLY I'll be getting the software for Xmas or around then 
so we can talk!  I have a Pfaff 7550 and the software along with my 1630 
and 930.  So I will know something about the software.  It was funny--I 
went to a store --3 hrs away and played with the software--being as I was 
familiar with the Pfaff it really wasn't that hard.  BTW--there is going 
to be some DEFINITE need for upgrades!  I think some of my designs might 
be German inspired! GG

Where do you hail from?  I let my dealer in on this Bernina Club via the 
Internet.  You might get a whole lot of Ozarkers!GG

Mary Ann W.
The upgrades I mentionned were on the Bernina software.
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 11:02:07 EST
Subject: Re: Re:Pressure Foot Tension

Real curious - what is a golfing quilt.  Did you design or is there a pattern?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 13:53:07 +0500
Subject: TV/Radio interference

Several folks have mentioned on this mail group that they see
interference with the TV or radio signal when they run their
Bernina.  I have a standing joke that neither the iron nor the
sewing machine will work unless the TV is on in my house.
I'm looking at getting the 1630.  Is interference a problem
on all machines?  Can it be fixed?  Is there a circumvention?

Thanks in advance for any replies,
Monica T
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 94 18:21:29 -0500
Subject: New 1630 Key FYI

Someone had asked what patterns were on the new keys that have just been 
released for the 1630.  I bought the Christmas key ($79.00, but prices here tend 
to be very high) &figured I pass along the patterns that it contains:

a shooting star                Santa w/latern &gift in hand
gift with pine branch          ornament hanging from pine branch
angel w. small shooting star   angel with wand in hand
snowflake                      pointsettee(sp?) blossum
holly w/ berries               toy soldier
bell w/ bow                    snowman
x-mas ornament                 X-mas tree w/ candles
star w/ pine branch            2 candles in pointy base
1 candle sillohette(sp?)       1 candle w/ pine branch
2 candle w/ flat base          stocking w/ gifts inside

If anyone wants a better description, please e-mail me.  My 'Nina dealer said 
that the Celebration key contains stuff for all holidays.  She also said that 
there's a sports motif key coming out sometime in the sort of near future.

Sue T 
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 18:55:28 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: New 1630 Key FYI

Sue, My Bernina dealer told me to expect to see a Hearts and Flowers and 
Quilting key around March (so I'll think May or later-GG).  First comes 
the software and then comes the keys!

BTW what is the pig suppose to represent in the Celebrations key?

Mary Ann W
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 08:27:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Tv/Radio Interference

  I have been listening to the interference problem.   I have found that 
my RADIO get interference from the dining room chandelier  but not if I 
plug it into the dining room outlet.  I think electricity is spooky.  I
just want to emphasis the great need for a SERGE PROTECTOR with all 
computers and BERNINA SEWING MACHINES are computerized.  I have had customers
that have had computer board damage because they let their machines 
plugged in all the time.  They think that by turning off the switch the 
machine is off....not so...only the light bulb!  Electricity is still 
flowing.  The best advice is to always unplug the machine when not in use
and to definitely get a serge protector and watch the indicator light.  My
serge protector took a couple of hits this summer....I find summer storms
and air condition fluctuations are the worst.
  Maybe the interference would clear up if you use a serge protector.  If you
are already then try another plug.
                                Happy Holidays,
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 13:23:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Quilting with embrodery s...

I have done some quilting with the embrodery stitches.  I made a trip around
the world not too long ago and wanted to spruce it up.  I did losen the
tension and used all different threads and patterns to outline the blocks.
 You just need to keep a close eye on your material and have your knee of the
presser foot lever at all times to loosen things if need be.  Hope this makes
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 13:23:54 -0500
Subject: Re: New 1630 Key FYI

Someone asked the price of the keys.  I paid $89.00 for the holiday key.  I'm
very interested in what others have paid and where the best deal is.  
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 16:15:33 
Subject: HELLO!
Hello everyone!  I've been reading the messages and find them informative.  
Thank you all!

I've been a Bernina owner for a long time.  Have had an 830 ..traded in on a 
930 and then eventually in on the 1130 I presently own.

I'm intrigued by all the discussion on the 1630.  What are the "keys"?  Does 
it have a rs232 port?  Will it hook up to a Mac and/or PC?  This is the first 
time I've been tempted to want a new machine.  (I have a collection of old 

Thanks!  /Diane H
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 17:39:40 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: HELLO!

Hi!  Well, the KEYS are additional designs you can get from Bernina.  
About 16 designs in a key and the going rate in my area is $90.  Does it 
have a port yep but I don't remember the number.  Yes, you can hook it up 
to a computer but for now just a PC.  Since the machine came out there's 
been 3 updates to it.  The first one was free--keys and software 
adaptablity, another one that escapes me and the latest one is to take 
the computer stuff and store it plus making the SD stuff in different sizes.

I STILL wonder what the other updates will be.  I could offer QUITE a few 

Oh, the software retails around $350 in my neck of the woods.  It needs 
SEVERAL updates.

BTW with the 1630 you do have to change tension settings more frequently 
this is because of the new hook system.

Mary Ann
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 19:26:55 -0500
Subject: interference

I had written earlier that I had an interference problem with my Bernina and
the tv. I still have a bit of intereference, but not enough to cause a
problem. I bought a new surge surpressor for the Bernina, a good idea
considering my 1630 costs more than my computer... that did not solve the
problem, but plugging the old tv, into the OLD surge surpressor did. 

Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 00:34:00 UTC
Subject: the right address

Hopefully, now I will be able to get messages this way.
I have both new keys for my 1630.  Found out that the pig means good luck in Europe.
Back again later once I get this straightened out!
Roni G
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 10:32:00 UTC
Subject: 1630 stuff
  I paid $89.  for each one.  My dealer just opened her business this fall.
If anyone is nearby, it is a great place, called the Quilt Shop, in Danbury Ct.
She told me about a 6 volume library set that will be out next year, especially for the 1630.
Has anyone heard about this?
Thanks everyone!
Roni G
Date: 16 Dec 1994 09:00:43 -0600
Subject: 1630- Six Vol. Library Set-WOW!

I would love to know more about the pending release of a 6 vol library set
for the 1630.   I've seen the two keys at the local dealer, and couldn't
justify the price just now.  However, it would be much easier to justify a
Library set of keys (if that is what it is) as 'reference material' .  

Everyone have a good week, it will be pretty quiet in the office, and maybe
I'll get my desk cleared off in preparation for the new year.

Merry Christmas,
Phyllis G
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 11:11:19 +0500
Subject: A 1630 by Christmas

I'm excited!  I've decided to buy the Bernina 1630 (after saving
lots of pennies) this weekend.  I called two shops (including the
recommended Maryland Sewing Machine and Vacuum Center) and both
gave me prices of $2600.  Both offer 17 classes (although Md
Sew&Vac wanted $100 more).  My local dealer, J&L Sewing Shoppe
has two in stock.  Is $2600 a reasonable price?  It's better than
G Street's price, plus there's a Bernina "6 months same as cash"
where you don't even have to pay anything (not even a deposit)
until 6 months from now.  

Does this sound good?  Should I bargain for more (like the 
patchwork foot or the walking foot) or is this already a
good price?

Monica T
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 11:38:23 -0500
Subject: Re: 1630 Stuff

Please give me the name, address and phone number of this new quilt shop in

Lynette E
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 22:02:13 -0500
Subject: Re: A 1630 by Christmas

I paid $2400.00 for mine. BUT I have probably supported the store (well, not
quite) for a couple of years and made some other purchases like sewing and
cutting tables, sergers, etc.  You might be able to get a key thrown in.  I'm
excited for you!  You will love your machine.
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 22:34:38 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: 1630 Six Vol. Library Sew - Wow!

Hi Phyllis, Well, the 1630 Library aren't keys from what I understand but 
printed material.  I don't know what they will cost and apparently the 
reps don't either.  Sure will Be interesting.  I couldn't justify the 
cost of the keys either!  What I want to know is just how many upgrades 
will there be?
Have a MErry Xmas

Mary Ann
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 22:37:25 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: A 1630 by Christmas

Monica, $2600 is an EXCELLENT price!  Be sure that when you get it that 
it has the upgrades.  1) to accept the keys and another to accept the PC 
stuff and the SD can do increases.  Also, be sure to get lessons!  

How come the prices are low unless they are selling floor models which is 
how I got mine?

Have Fun!
Mary Ann
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 94 12:23:00 UTC
Subject: 1630 purchase

I think I have the hang of this now.  Lynette- our new quilt shop is called The Quilt Shop.
The address is 16 Padanaram Rd. Danbury, Ct. Phone 743-0543.  She is right on Rt 37.
The owners name is Ginny Murphy.  She is just a delight to deal with.
Monica- when you go to buy your machine see if they will throw in soome t that you don't have.  I think that the price you were quoted is a good one
Rumor has it that the prices are going up after the first of the year.
Walk is you have to, just get to that store!
I don't know any more about the library.  I will be talking to my dealer this week.  If I find out anything, I will post it here.
Did anyone get the straight stitch throat plate?  I did, but I haven't used it yet.
Have a great day everyone!!
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1994 13:41:58 -0500
Subject: flying pigs

I found the pig designation as a good luck symbol very interesting. I have
been predicting that the next animal fad in the US(you know, first we had
geese, then cows...) will be flying pigs. I have one flying pig fabric from
Hoffman already, and I have not seen any others, but I think they might
already be popular in Austrailia. My friends think I am odd. 

Is there a mail order source for Bernina accessories?

Date: 17 Dec 94 18:17:47 EST
Subject: 1630 Aggravations

Great to have discovered this group.  It was interesting to follow some of the
earlier messages about people deliberating between trading in their machines for
the 1630.  I agonized over trading in my 1230 for a long time because I had
heard stories about problems with the stitch quality etc.  After testing a
variety of fabrics I went and took the plunge.  

I don't regret getting the 1630, but I do miss certain features on the earlier
Berninas (like the cording hole on the embroidery foot, etc.) and am getting a
little impatient waiting for all the accessories to be adapted for the 1630
(like the eyelet embroidery plates).  When I saw an 1130 for sale at a fair
price, it seemed like the perfect solution, so that's on its way now.  

Getting to the point of this message, there are three little things that I've
encountered so far with the 1630.  

1)  Stitch #G1  It's the ladder stitch in the hem/edge stitch menu.  I kept
getting skipped stitches so that I'd have an occasional loop or diagonal across
the stitch.  I did tests adjusting the tension up and down, and still had
problems.  I found that using the open toe embroidery foot helped, as well as
using Gutterman rather than the industrial cotton spools (Liberator) helped the
problem.  Adding stabilizer also reduced the frequency of the blips, but I'm
still not conviced that I've got the problem beat.

2)  Auto-securing stitch.  I found that I have to hit the reverse button before
the point at which I want it to back-stitch or I sew off the edge of the fabric.

3)  Auto-darning.  (Don't laugh, some people do darn holes in their jeans.  I'm
a little old to be showing my furry behind.)  Similar to the auto-securing, it
seems like I have to hit the button earlier than the present needle position.  I
suspect it has something to do with using some other reference point.

Knowing that anybody has had similar problems or suggestions would be

Thanks and regards,

Ray F
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1994 20:05:27 -0500

I just sent Ginny photos and brochure about my work. I hope to teach some
classes there. Let me know about the shop. I have heard wonderful things from
some student from the North Star Quilters. P R
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 07:43:54 -0500
Subject: I don't have/want a 1630

Hi all,
   I have been a lurker on this list.  Are there others on this list who are
not 1630 owners?  I have owned a Bernina 1090 since last February.  I am very
happy with my machine and it took me a very long time to work up to the
purchase and it will be a very long time (if ever) before I would consider a
1630.  When I purchased my machine I was told I could upgrade for 1 year (ie
exchange my 1090 for full credit toward the purchase of a higher model).  I
would appreciate input from this group.  I think the next step up is the
1230.  What are the advantages to this machine over the one I have?  I
settled on the 1090 because I wanted the presser foot lifter and the
reliability of the Bernina.  (That is why I didn't go for the 1080 - I think
that was the number of the $999 model that came out last year).  I am
primarily a quilter and sometimes still make clothing.  It seems like the
fancier machines do mainly more embrodery which I don't think I would do and
require very expensive additions to use the computer capabilities.  I have a
daughter in college and a son who will start as soon as she finishes so cost
is a very major consideration.  Your comments will be appreciated.

Melinda B
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 94 12:40:00 UTC

P.R- I am printing all of these messages out and will bring them to Ginny this
week. I'm sure she would be interested in hearing from you.  She has some
classes starting in Jan, but she will be offering more. I'm hoping for a Bernina
club!  We've never had one around here. Her shop is just perfect!  Lots of
lovely fabrics, plus Bernina machines, she has a nice selection of patterns,
notions, specialized threads, etc.  The best p The upstairs is all classroom
area.  She has really fixed up the house very nicely. I know that many Northern
Star Quilters have been in for class supplies.
I'm sure we will meet there someday! What class will you be teaching?
Let me know.
Have a great day everyone
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 10:19:20 -0500
Subject: Re: THHE Quilt Shop

Roni, I teach free motion machine work. I do applique without a satin stitch,
cutwork and needlelace without a stablizer. I teach a applique technigue that
quilts, embroiders, and appliques, all in the same application. I love fabric
manipulation such as scrunching, fringing, and FLASH from TRASH. I also have
sounded interested doing some classes. HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR. 
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 15:16:53 -0500
Subject: classes

I bought my Bernina 1260 from Ann's Fabrics.  Everyone said, be sure to buy
from a dealer because the classes are important.  Well, I didn't take the
first class because it was a basic sewing class, was HARASSED by a sales
clerk at the second that I HAD to have the first, and was shown more basic
stuff for the second class.  These were all things that you could get out of
the very basic manual that came with the machine.   I saw that someone had
access to 17 classes with her machine.  Is this more typical?  What should I
have expected?  Should I just have mail ordered it and saved money?

Kelly who is very disappointed both in the class and in Anne's fabric
selection at the Canton store.  It should be Anne's sewing machine sales.....
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 94 15:54:36 -0500
Subject: Re: A 1630 by Christmas

I too purchased a 1630 for $2600. in Tallahassee, FL.  I priced the same
machine at the Quilting Bee in Mountain View, CA and at a shop in Atlanta.
The former had the same price, the latter wanted a trade-in and would sell
it to me for $2795.  This was during the summer and they claimed there was
a special sale.
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 20:51:33 -0500
Subject: Straight stitch plate/darning

I have the straight stitch plate for the 1530 and have one for my 830 and my
Pfaff as well. I think it is invaluable when doing any machine quilting that
does not use zigzag which obviously would need the regular throat plate. I
use it in piecing all quilts, but especially miniatures.  I occasionally make
dolls and doll clothes, and if you are using the straight stitch plate,
little pieces don't get sucked down the hole. The literature advocating use
of this plate say that your machine makes a better stitch while using it,
because of no wide wobble, but it would be hard to top the stitch the Bernina
makes with any plate. 

Ray F mentioned darning.  I am relieved to find that someone is using all
those darning possibilities, and would certainly use it for jeans if
necessary.  My friends and I came to the conclusion that Europeans darn their
socks and underwear, which I would venture to say most Americans don't any
more. The 1530 manual devotes several pages to this activity 

Mary M
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 08:12:43 EST
Subject: RE: A 1630 by Christmas

I know md sew&vac will price match and i've overheard them throw in extra
feet too. I really like the instructors there, 

Date: Mon, 19 Dec 94 08:55:10 

I'm another user of the darning stitches, Ray and Mary.  I work in a quilt shop
and sold Berninas.  I taught guide classes and became very familiar with all
those darning applications.  (Just darned a woolen sock of my daughter's
yesterday!)   However, almost everyone asked: "Who darns these days?" 

I too use the straight stitch foot for quilting and piecing.  I also have the
foot marked in inches not metric.  That plate along with the quilting (#37)
foot gives me perfect 1/4" seams.  

Date: Mon, 19 Dec 94 08:46:42 -0500
Subject: Re: The Quilt Shop

Where is the Quilt Shop?

Lynette J
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 94 09:44:32 EST
Subject: Re: The Quilt Shop

Pat,   I am responsible (Vice president) of our Charlottesville Area Quilters
Guild for arranging two programs in 1995.    Do you travel to teach?   Where
are you located?   Do you have a lecture that you could give?   If you have a
resume could you send it to me?   

Would love to hear from you and maybe we could work out something.   The time
period is June (1st Saturday) and December (1st Saturday).
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 10:12:35 -0500
Subject: Re: 1630 Purchase

Hi .... I did buy the straight stitch throat plate and it is wonderful !!!
Especially for machine quilting ....something I  found to remind myself that
I  have the straight stitch throat plate on, is to get some red post it note
circles from the office supply (they are about 1 inch in diameter) and put
one on the stitch width dial and one above the screen to remind me not to go
to zig zag...Loving my 1630, Jane
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 10:36:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: I don't have/want a 1630

I don't have a 1630 as I do mainly clothes (making, mending, 
restructuring), quilts and crafts.  I do my embroidery by hand so I don't 
need the fancy stitches.  I have a small sewing business and am quite 
content with my 830.
Date: 19 Dec 1994 12:52:32 -0500
Subject: 1031

In response to Melinda, I'm sure there are others in this group who don't
have a 1630.  I have the 1031, again like you I was interested in the
knee-lift presser foot and needle upordown features especially.  I do
quilting and some garment sewing.  I've had my machine for a year and a half,
and no complaints yet!  It is due for some cleaning, I want to treat this
machine right!
Subject: Re: I don't have/want a 1630
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 10:00:13 -0800 (PST)   

>    I have been a lurker on this list.  Are there others on this list who are
> not 1630 owners?  I have owned a Bernina 1090 since last February.  I am very
> happy with my machine and it took me a very long time to work up to the
> purchase and it will be a very long time (if ever) before I would consider a
> 1630.  

I have a 1001.  When I was looking, I didn't want the 1630 either.  Perhaps
it is because of my background in mechanical engineering, but I am so 
suspicious of digital systems.  If one little chip goes down, you are screwed.
It's terribly difficult to find the problem by yourself and repair costs 
are sometimes high enough that you just go buy a new one.   Give me analog
anytime.  Failures are so much easier to correct.  The whole system will
drift together instead of a sudden spastic movement.  This can easily diagnosed
and corrected.   Blah, blah, blah.

However, your options expand exponentially when you incorporated a digital 
system in a sewing machine.  I am sure that someday I may want more.
Fortunately, electronic technology is improving everyday.  My little
suspicion, above, is probably outdated.  

Also, there is the cost.  It took me forever to work up to the 1001.  I had
only handme downs before that.  When it was so frustrating that I couldn't
stand it any more I finally go a new machine.  My nonbase salary (aka bonus)
was just right to buy the 1001.  I'm a happy camper.

> I
> settled on the 1090 because I wanted the presser foot lifter and the
> reliability of the Bernina.  (That is why I didn't go for the 1080 - I think
> that was the number of the $999 model that came out last year).  

Um, I deleted the question because I don't know the answer.  I just wanted
to address the presser foot lifter issue.  They tried to sell me on this, but
I quilt in small batches.  I just don't have time to anything big.  I have
found that I am going to standup and return to my work table almost every
time that I lift the presser foot.  Since my last machine was from he
1950s or 1940s, perhaps I won't be ready for another until the 2030's and
i will be retired.  Hm, I'll bet by that time the kneelift for hte presser
foot will be standard issue.

There is one thing that I really despise about Bernina.  They have a picture
of a woman sewing in some of their documentation.  She is wearing a miniskirt
with most of her thigh showing.  Get real.  Does anybody out there sew in
a mini?  I appologize if you do.  It is just inconceivable to me.  Now, a
woman in sweats, that would do much more to convince me that this machine
will fit my lifestyle.
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 14:59:34 -0500
Subject: Re: I don't have/want a 1630  

Melinda B wondered if she should upgrade her 1090. 

I went from a Bernina  830 to a Pfaff 1473 to a Bernina 1530 (which I got
last month), and still have all 3 machines. I use both the 1530 and the Pfaff
(when I need the even-feed foot and for one of the alphabets and some fancy
stitches). I got the 1530 because of its quiet, Rolls Royce like qualities
and because of the buttonholes. Remember if you get the 1630, that is not the
end of it. You will be spending  $75 for each key and If you want the
computer capabilities, $375 or something like that for the software. At the
moment my thought is to wait until I really CRAVE the computer capability and
then trade the 1473 for the latest Pfaff, keeping the 1530, of course. I
think you get more bang for your buck, computer-wise, with the Pfaff (and, of
course, the even-feed foot which is a necessity to me).Naturally, you also hav
e to pay for the Pfaff software. I am keeping the Bernina 830 for my
granddaughter's first sewing machine (don't laugh--she's 5-12 months now, so
I will be hanging on to it for awhile). 

I did my first automatic buttonholes with the 1530 yesterday, and what a joy!

My point is that if you don't know why you want a newer machine, you don't
need it. If the machine you have is doing everything you want in a manner
acceptable to you, hang on to it. 

Mary M
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 94 03:04:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 12/18/94

Melinda B,
I have a Bernina 1030 and love it!  It's mechanical and I've had it for two
years now.  I would love to have a 1630 but can't afford the payments...I am
a quilter too and use it all the time for stitching in the ditch and
freemotion quilting.  I have also used it for some machine embroidery.
So we are out here.. and I've been lurking for a few days...
Hi Roni!  Good to see you!
Terri R
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 02:18:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 12/19/94

Jennifer was talking of the mini-skirted lady in the Bernina
advertisements....I had to laugh out loud!  Yes, they do seem to be behind
the times.  And sweats would be much more realistic, p.j.'s, too.  Mary
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 08:48:45 -0500
Subject: Bernina iron

The shop where I bought my sewing machine now also sells Bernina irons.  They
claim that they are better than Rowenta, which they used to sell.  Does anyone
have any experience with the Bernina iron?

This iron has a coated (teflon?) plate, but is guaranteed for ten years - the
coated plate, that is.

I currently have an ancient Sears steam iron, that occasionally will actually
steam, but I use it on dry most of the time anyway.  My Sears iron has a
shiny chrome surface.  When gunk builds up on the bottom, my husband takes
the iron to his shop and buffs it out.  This has worked great.  The iron also
does *not* have the nasty automatic shut-off.  I've had to replace the cord
on the Sears, but other than that, it has been no problem.  But I expect that
some day it will go caput, and so I have been looking at the different irons
on the market.

Oh, yes, the Bernina iron does not have the automatic shut-off either.

Ida T
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 12:11:05 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re:Bernina Digest 12/19/94

Mary, I haven't seen the ad but I do think that whoever does the 
advertising for Bernina needs a wake up call.  It just isn't very sewing 
intising (sp) to see a little boy no matter how cute with one of his 
buttons coming off!  nope!  Give us examples of current work and without 
the short skirts!  Ever notice in the Bernina mag how short the dresses 
are there!  Magazine needs to be less European and more American!

Mary Ann
Date:           Tue, 20 Dec 94 18:46 EST
Subject:        RE: Re: Bernina Digest 12/19/94

> Magazine needs to be less European and more American!

I don't know that I agree....  it would be interesting to see where in the
world Bernina sold more machines but I would not be the least bit surprised
if it was sales outside the US that make up the majority of their market.  I
am an American now living in Australia so I have been on both sides of the
water...  I know here in Australia there are a large number of people that
still make their own clothes.  One reason is cost, another is selection and
quality.  I know that Bernina's are cheaper here, the selection of dealers
larger.  And a larger selection and availability of accessories to make your
sewing life easier.  I am not saying the US is a small market for Bernina,
it just is not the only major market....

As far as the short shirts - they wear more middi's than mini's here.  Maybe
the short skirts is to help intice (sp?  not any better at spelling either)
the husbands who in this part of the world are often the person who has to
pay for wife's new toys...

Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 06:32:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 12/19/94

I purchased my 1530 two christmas's ago.  I would like to know if the $40
manual would be of some help.  Instructions for sewing on my machine were
almost nill, plus the dealer has closed the mall store.  They were happy to
sell, but said read your manual.Manual lame.  

Thank's to my lovely email friend who I will be visiting in Jan, Brenda"Merry
Christmas"  I will be getting some instructions.  What is the gimmick.  When
you buy a machine , I was under the impression they should give you lessons
along with your machine.  These new machines are so technical it should be an
atomatic service.  My husband is a small business owner and he gives
wonderful service with all his insturments he rents, sells or whatever.  We
do not have a decent dealer around.  Only one left within a half hour  of
home.  I can go to another state or 11/2 hours away, forgetit.  I want to be
able to get good service locally.  I guess some one who want's to start a
sewing store around my area is well needed.  I found a lovely lady down the
cape, but forget it. Much to far.

Merry christmas to all.

Subj:    Bernina
Date:    94-12-21 14:56:15 EST

My Bernina 1080 is wonderful, and I do not expect to replace it.  I use the
machine for piecing and do all applique and quilting by hand, so I don't
really need a lot of bells and whistles.  Would have loved the presser foot
lifter, but the price was just too high since I would not have used other
features that came with the machine with the lifter.  Never had a foot
lifter, so I really don't miss it.

What impresses me about the machine is the fact that it does everything
precisely ... and well.

IRONS.  I have a top-of-the-line Black&Decker iron that shuts off
automatically.  Have seen the Rowenta and just can't see any reason to go
beyond a $48 iron.  This one works great for everything, including pressing
curves and complicated pieces. Has a nonstick plate.

Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 08:34:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bernina Iron

Dear Ida,

    I have a Bernina Iron and a Rowenta and I like them both but prefer 
the Bernina.  It gets very hot and steams!  I have let my husband and
son use the Bernina for 3 years now and it is still fine...a small miracle.
The only draw back is a cosmetic feature.  Since it gets hot (great for 
linen and cotton) the white discolors around the sole plate to a yellow.  
I personally do not consider that a terrible disadvantage.

    I do not recommend any buffing because it has a special sole plate.  
I use Dritz Iron Cleaner and one follows directions it works like a 
charm.  I have even ironed "Stitch Witchery" on the WRONG side.  You can 
imagine what that did to the sole plate! The iron cleaner took off that 
black gunk and the iron was like new.

    The only trouble I have had with the Rownta is that it leaks 
slightly.  I know it is due to a faulty gasket that the company will 
replace if you wish to mail it back.  I do not do much water staining 
silk or taffata. If it can't be washed it doesn't exist in my house.  I 
want to warn everyone about an experience a few people have had in the 
Virginia area.  I do not know if it  is the "fix-it" shop or a Rowenta 
policy or the place where the shop sens the iron to be fixed.  The 
customer took the iron to be fixed (leaky gasket) and did not receive the 
same iron back.  In fact she received an iron that was much used.  When 
she complained, the store said Rowenta doesn't return the same iron, but 
returns a same model fixed one!  I'm not so sure about this being true 
but the event I have just described happened to two unrelated people.  If 
you get something fixed, it is best to have your own serial number and be 
assured you will get the same appliance returned.

    Happy Holidays........Jacque
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 94 23:07:00 UTC
Subject: RE: Bernina Digest 12/20/94

Hi everyone!  I haven't been on much as we have a new computer.  Santa brought
me a new Mac for Christmas.  the problem is I can't access GEnie as I used to
so I really hate it, also it is in my sewing room so I never get in there
anymore as the kids and my DH are always around.  My poor 1630 feels so left
Back as soon as I figure this thing out!!
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 94 08:16:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 12/20/94

Just be patient. You are going to come to love that Mac. You will have far
more graphic options with your Mac. I would not give it up for a more
primitive IBM any day. Trust me.
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 94 11:17:25 -0500
Subject: Happy Holidays!!!

Hi Everyone, 

I just want to wish everyone a very happy holiday. Hope all your wishes come 
true an you get some time to spend with your 'nina.

"And I heard him exclaim 'ere he drove out of sight, "'Happy Christmas to all 
ans to all a good night.'"

Sue T - who plans on spending the rest of her birthday today playing with her 
'nina.  : )
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 1994 15:45:43 -0500
Subject: Help! Invisible frustration!

I am trying to get my new Bernina 1630 with the Quilting Foot (the big one)
to work for invisible nylon thread quilting so that I can do free-style
quilting with it.  The threads seem to work fine and give a nice zig-zag
stitch if I don't use the quilting foot.  I am using a 60/2 cotton thread in
the bobbin as recommended by others here.  I have tried using the metafil
needle, the #11/80 and the #10/70 needles.  I have used thread (all .004
nylon threads) coming off a small spool going thru the threader at the top
and have tried the small cone shaped spools with and without the "stocking"
over it.  I have tried the single hole sole plate (which started to solve the
problem) and the wide sole plate (which was a disaster).  I have tried
different top thread tensions, and adjusted the bottom thread for the best
tension using the zig-zag stitch.

With the 10/70 and the metafil needle, the stocking over the cone (coming
from a holder and thru the threader on the handle) and with the smaller style
regular size spool on the regular spool I get the best results, but they are
not consistent.  The main problem I am having now is that the top thread
gives huge (1/4 to 1/2 inch) loops on the back at inconsistent moments, but
particularly and relatively consistently when I start up with the stitch
after ending and cutting the thread.  At this time, the thread tends to spin
noisily when I use the regular sized spools and the sound of the needle
catching doesn't sound right either.

Can anyone give me their "recipe" for how to fix this problem?  I have talked
with my Bernina dealer, and she has given me all the advice (and I have tried
it).  Should I give up and go back to my old frustrating (but more
consistently good stitch) Kenmore machine?

Of course, this is for a project I need to complete next week!

Thanks in advance for all your good advice.  I will post the results and the
recipe that works best (If I get one!).

Barb M
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 94 00:01:00 UTC
Subject: Help! Invisible Fustration!!

 Sue, I don't have a 1630 (got a 1090), but I have done lots
of free motion machine quilting, much of it with nylon thread....
I have ideas, but maybe no solutions to your tension problems. First,
have you tried different thread? I'm not sure what size the thread is
that I usually use (would have to dig out the spool which is in
a box downstairs at the moment)...but you might want to try a different
nylon thread spool....also, what about the speed you are sewing with?
I find that I get the best results, tension-wise, if I keep my foot
pedal speed uniform, whether slow or fast, especially when I am
changing directions.
Are you sure that there is nothing wrong with your machine mechanically?
:) Linda
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 00:46:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 12/19/94

Gosh I don't have to feel guilty when I spend the whole day in my PJ's at the
sewing machine??? Sometimes I don't bother to get dressed.  Am I bad or what?
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 01:40:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Happy Holidays!!

Well I too will be playing with my Nina .  My daughter age almost 9 got a
Bernette-- although she really wants a Bernina but she will be playing too--
and spending quality time with her MOM.  
Actually I wanted to take this time to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas
and a Happy and Healthy New Year.  Lonnie
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 94 06:22:00 UTC
Subject: quilting with nylon thread

Barb M,
 I was having all sorts of trouble with skipped stitches on my Bernie 1030
using my big quilting foot.  It really depended on the thread (some did and
some didn't do it!) but it was a I switched to my little darning
foot and wallah!  No more skipped stitches!  I think the darning foot holds
the quilt sandwich a little tighter than the large quilting foot...
I can't guarantee that it will work but it might help!
Terri R
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 09:28:23 -0500
Subject: Bits and pieces; Bernina Source

If you're looking to upgrade your machine or for parts ... here's a wonderful

 As most of us Bernina owners have discovered, the list price is never the
best price you can get.  

I've been watching competitive pricing ... and highly recommend that anyone
who's shopping call Ken Clodek at the Yardgoods Center here in Maine.  His
phone number is 207 872-5403.  Ken and his employees are very knowledgable
about Berninas, have been selling them for some time ... AND have very
competitive prices.  Best of all, they will send you what you want, wherever
you are!  Wish I could "bold" that name and phone number.

I really think you'll like Ken and his prices.

Happy sewing now and in 1995, and keep those Berninas humming!  Though the
machines above the 1080 look good, I'm loyal to my 1080 that's never had a
thread jam, does everything I want it to ... and does it well.  

The piecing foot # 37 is by far my favorite accessory.  Not only can I piece
accurately on my Bernina (which I could not do on my thrice-rehabbed Singer),
the feed dog does not mess up meticulous matches held by pins (rather than

Schmetz make a quilting needle that's also "the best" for piecing.  

All best, --Addy
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 09:57:32 -0500
Subject: Invisible thread


Re:  Invisible thread:

Have heard from other quilters who machine quilt on a variety of types of
machines (I hand quilt only, but we at PineTree Quiltworks Discount Supplies
get a lot of feedback about the products we sell via catalog ...) and many
SWEAR BY the new Sulky invisible thread for machine quilting.  Far fewer
reports of machine problems.    Seems to work for many quilters without need
for tinkering with tension adjustments.

The stuff is a clear polyester, rather than nylon monofilament, and it takes
much more heat.  It's availbele in smoke and clear and machine quilters seem
to love it.  It apparently is not as "slippery" as the other invisible
threads (which are more like fishing line).  I'm going to try hand quilting
with it, just for the heck of it.  Have hand quilted with the fishing line
stuff, and that was an interesting experience.  Did a whole multi-color Amish
quilt that way.  Quilt came out well, but that's one experiment I won't
repeat any time soon.

SO.. for quilters who are having trouble with nylon invisible threads, the
new Sulky invisible might help.  If you can't find it at your usual sources
of supply, E-mail me your snail mail name and address, and PTQ will get a
catalog out to you.

PLUS:  Machine quilters might want to try the Schmetz quilting needles.  I
use them for piecing, and have heard from machine quilters that they're "the
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 19:03:40 -0500
Subject: golfing quilt

Thought I'd share this with everyone since I've had a few notes on it.

I made a wall hanging called a Hole In One.  It's a "golfers" quilt and of
course everyone thinks it's the best quilt I've ever made.  I must admit I am
insulted.  Although it's a cute quilt, It's JUST a cute quilt.  It's very
easy to make and yes, it is nice ... just not what I usually make.  lThe
pattern comes from the book Hook, Line and a Hole in One (Designs to make for
Men) by Four Corners.  

There are some really cute patterns in here.  There are fishermen (yes, they'r
e fishing) ducks, a fantastic Handyman's Dream which is full of tools, Dog's
Best Friend and the list of titles goes on and on.  Most of these are "iron"
on applique.  I did iron them on, but them I used my handy applique stitch
(BY MACHINE) and added some palm trees and what not.

Take care and Happy Holiday's to you all!

Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 19:00:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Help! Invisible Fustration!!

Now this is interesting!  I've been doing a lot of free motion quilting with
invisible thread.  I put my feed dogs down and I use foot No. 9 which came
with the 1630.  It's the small round foot and I haven't had a problem with
it.  As far as thread goes, I've used a couple of different kinds and they've
worked fine.  I know this isn't much, but I hope it helps you out.  Good luck
to you --- it's no fun being frustrated when you're trying to get something

Date: Mon, 26 Dec 1994 11:17:02 -0500
Subject: Re: I don't have/want a 1630

I haven't written on this since it began, so thought I should add something
to be sure my name continues on the list. I haven't written, but do enjoy
reading the letters, especially about the 1630. I have had my 1230 for some
time now and just love it , so would need very good reasons for upgrading and
haven't really seen anything yet that had done the trick. I don't know about
your machine (1090), but I bought my 1230 for simple things: knee lift,
needle down, and especially the buttonhole stitch which I use all the time to
do my machine applique rather than the blind hem stitch. Hope this helps.
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 1994 14:10:23 -0700
Subject: Re: Golf Quilt

>pattern comes from the book Hook, Line and a Hole in One (Designs to make for
>Men) by Four Corners.  
>There are some really cute patterns in here.  There are fishermen (yes, they'r
>e fishing) ducks, a fantastic Handyman's Dream which is full of tools, Dog's
>Best Friend and the list of titles goes on and on.

Jennifer - I would love to get this book but have never seen it listed
in the catalogs I have - where did you get it?  Betty 
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 1994 19:52:05 -0500
Subject: loopy nylon quilting problem

A few days ago I posted a problem with using nylong thread with my Bernina
1630 for free-style quilting.  I still have not solved my problem (tho I have
improved somewhat, however still get inconsistent results).  These are the
suggestions, and the results as I tried them.  If you have had good
consistent results with a Bernina (exp. 1630), please let me know the

1.  What thread do you use?  On what kind of spools?
2.  What needle do you use?
3.  What technique do you use?
4. What tension, stitch length, needle plate do  you use?
5.  Any other suggestions to resolve the problem of getting occasional large
loops on the back?  I get them particularly on start-up after pulling thread
to advance it.  Worst is when other end of thread is not in fabric, best if
just advancing within fabric.  This does not mean that I don't occasionally
get 1/4 inch to 1/2 inch loops of nylon thread in the back at other times

Suggestions for machine quilting with nylon thread and results so far:

Started with the following that helped quite a bit, but not to 
a.  Use either metafil needle or 70/10 (I am still waiting for 
my 75/11 quilting needles that are supposed to be the best 
according to Harriet Hargraves books and those who have 
recommended her methods.
b.  Thread thru hole in handle.

1. I had the same problem and found it is a matter of rhythm, practice 
should perfect it.Take out the bobbin case and run your bobbin thread 
through the little hole that you see at the end of the "arm" of the 
bobbin case, then put it back and bring up your thread in the
normal way.  This is suppose to help.
Carol H
   result:  Starting out slower did seem to help as did a 
steady rhythm, but I still am having intermittent problems.  With the 
1630, you don't have the same kind of bobbin little 
arm, so I could not do your other recommendation.

2. Use the darning foot (#9) (two people suggested it and said 
they had no problems using it. i.e.
I switched to my little darning foot and wallah!  No more skipped stitches!
 I think the darning foot holds
the quilt sandwich a little tighter than the large quilting foot... 
I can't guarantee that it will work but it might help!  
Terri R

I've been doing a lot of free motion quilting with
invisible thread.  I put my feed dogs down and I use foot No. 9 which came
with the 1630.  It's the small round foot and I haven't had a problem with
it.  As far as thread goes, I've used a couple of different kinds and they've
worked fine. 
   result:  It did seem to work *slightly* better than the 
larger quilting foot, but I still get problems when it starts 
up of getting the loops, and occasionally with in-between 
stitching too.

3. Put the thread through the loop on the handle.
   result:  I was doing this already, and find it is absolutely 
essential if you are to have any luck at all.

4. Use different thread or different spool.
   result:  If I used the "stocking" on the cone spool and 
through a cone holder, put it through the loop on the handle (with 
the handle in a high position to avoid the thread being able to contact 
the spool posts, I got just about the same results (maybe even better) as 
the regular spool, which tended to spin rapidly at certain 
times (at start up, primarily) and when it did, that is when I 
get the loops.
5.  Set the speed to 1/2 speed and then "floor it", gives more 
I took a class from Maurine Noble this summer about Machine Quilting.  We
used this thread, and worked our machines extensively with about every kind
of thread imaginable.  Have you tried threading the top thread thru the
little hole on the machine handle?  That will give you greater control.
Also, put your machine on 1/2 speed and 'floor' it.  This is supposed to give
you all sorts of control as well.  BTW, I highly recommend her book on this
subject, and it is just out, pub. by That Patchwork Place.  Good luck.
    Mary E
   result:  Seemed to help somewhat, especially on start-up, 
but still could not give "perfect" non-looped results.  I will 
definitely do this.  It seems to lead to more perfectly 
balanced stitch lengths than using the full speed of the 
machine, and does somewhat reduce the problem (but 
unfortunately, not entirely).

6.  Set your stitch length to zero. 
Do you have to drop the feed dogs? On mine you don't. Sounds like the 
tension is too loose. Is the nylon thread able to slip out of the tension 
squeeze when the needle is down? Sometimes mine would slip out because it 
is a very fine filament. Try rethreading the machine and set the tension 
(on a scale of 1 to 10) around 4 and if that is too loose try is around 
I never tried the cone threads so can't help you there. When it 
happens again, just stop everything and look at the thread. It sounds 
like it is just not staying in its threading slots.
results:  I tried all of the above and found that having feed 
dogs up or down didn't affect result other than stitch seemed 
to be more even if they were up.  With stitch length at 0 I got 
consistent long stitches on the back.  You may have something 
with the threading slipping out as problem seems to be worst 
when you pull the threads when moving the fabric or cutting 
thread. But, how to prevent that?  Tension of 4-6 seems to work 
best, but works equally well (bad) at any tension in this 
range.  The problem is inconsistent stitching, and continues. 
Regina L
Subject: 1260 feet
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 1994 09:05:25 -0500

Does anyone know of a source for the extra feet available for the
Brenina 1260? Also are there any other cards besides the two that came
with it?

Subject: re: Big Foot
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 94 13:57:16 EST

I love the Bernina Info net, and have been lurking here for awhile reading
the mail. Just for some background info:
the "Big Foot" that has the larger quilting area was specifically created
my Harriet Hargrave to be used with fatter batts. The smaller, "darning
foot" is much better when machine quilting on Thermore, flannel, or a 3
oz. weight polyfil......

Have a wonderful New Year to all, and here's to looking forward to a day
to just quilt and just maybe take a nap!

Theresa G
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 07:44:47 -0500
Subject: Bernina feet

Tom L ... I know of two sources (here) for Bernina feet.  Ken at the
Yardgoods Center in Waterville may have them in stock.  He has a full line of
Berninas and even sells them mail order.  His phone # is 207 872-5403; by all
means tell him I recommended him.  His shop may also have the computer cards
in, too, or may be able to get them.  Other source:  South Portland Sewing
Machine Center 207 799-0032.  

Still warm here in coastal Maine ... 20 degres this morning, and going up to
a tropical above-freezing temperature, they claim.  January will probably be
payback time.  

Best wishes to all for a happy, healthy, sew-up-a-storm New Year.
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 94 13:06:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 12/27/94
Hi everyone.  Guess this means that you wold use the small darning foot for
cotton batts too?  I am on a cotton batting kick right now.  Never thought I
would be, but I took a workshop with Harriet Hargrave last year and she got me
hooked on them.
I'm going to go and see my dealer today about having the first upgrade put on
my machine, as long as she gives me a loaner.  Couldn't stand to be away from
my baby that long~!!!! My 1630 was an early one and from what I understand
needs an upgrade to work with the cards and more memory?
Happy sewing everyone!
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 94 14:58:00 UTC
Subject: foot 37

 I have a perhaps frivolous question to ask...I've been doing
quite a bit of patchwork, using my foot #37 (forget it's proper the one that is exactly 1/4" wide, etc)...on the back
of this foot, there is a small screw. Does anyone know what it's
for? It periodically falls off (I think it slowly comes unscrewed
from the vibrations of sewing) and I have to put it back on.
I know, I know, silly question of the week. But I am curious (and
would just as soon take the thing off and put it in the drawer if
the lack of the screw isn't going to damage the foot somehoe:)
Date: 28 Dec 1994 09:45:13 -0600
Subject: RE: Foot 37

That screw is used when you use the Quilting Guide thingy, (don't know what
the official name of it is),  look in your accessory box, in the bottom, and
there is a metal rod, that is bent.  You put this in the hole in the back of
the foot, and tighten it down with the screw.   you can use the outboard end
of it as a stitching guide.

If you take the screw out of the foot, it won't hurt a thing.  It is
unerving, to be sewing along, and to find a screw and not know where it came
from.  Most of the Bernina feet have this hole, which will accommodate the
quilting guide.  

Subject: Foot 37 Screw
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 10:01:38 -0600 (CST)

I hope everyone had a nice Christmas!  50+ degrees here on Christmas, 
so cooked the turkey on the grill.  Very unusual!

The screw and hole on the back of the 37 foot (patchwork foot) is 
for a quilting guide.  Several of the feet I have (#'s 8, 2, 12, 1,
14, 21, 6, and 4) have this hole and screw.  If you remove the
screw, keep it in a safe place.  You might have need of it at a
later date when you want to do some evenly spaced machine

Did You Know??:
When the American Bernina owners and dealers first approached
the "powers that be" at the world-wide Bernina headquarters in
Europe about making a computerized sewing machine (1630) the
PTB thought they were crazy!  Evidently the average person in
Europe is not computer literate, doesn't own a computer nor
work with one.  Not ones to give up a potential market, but
yet not believing that the product would sell that well, put
the machine into production on a limited production *only*.  
Of course, the machine was an instant hit and the demand
skyrocketed!  It caught the PTB totally off guard, and they
had to scramble to up production and crank those machines out.
That's why when the 1630's first came out (2 yrs. ago-?) 
there was a waiting list, in some cases 6-12 months, to buy
the machines.

IMO, no question is too dumb to ask!

Owner of an 1130 Bernina,

Mary G
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 12:58:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Foot 37

It's to hold a quilting bar, you might notice a lot of your feet have the 
same hole and screw. I'm not really sure why you'd need a quilting bar 
with that foot, but that option is available.


Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 15:16:40 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Foot 37 screw

Mary, Well, that sortof makes sense considering how SLOW the Swiss are!  
Anyway, now if they would just put out keys that have more scallops, 
borders, etc--you know the stuff we would actually use! GGG  40 mm is 
nice but I REALLY want more 9mm stuff as long as its NOT CUTSEY!

PLEASE do not flame me!  Taking criticism is NOT high on my list!  BTW I 
do have the Bernina software and for a first attempt its pretty good!  I 
have the OTHER software so I can make comparisons!

Mary Ann
Subject: Re: Foot 37
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 20:34:50 -0500 (EST)

Linda thought her question was stupid about the screw in her foot...well
I feel stupid because I've been using that #37 foot for months and I
never even noticed the screw!!  Someone mentioned that there was some
sort of guide in the accessory box but I don't seem to have one.  (Don't
even have an accessory *box* since my Bernina is the 1000--as low as one
can go and still have a Bernina!) That's ok, I love my machine no matter
how humble it is!

Corky L
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 94 23:38:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina Digest 12/28/94
No matter what kind of Bernina we all have, we still all have Berninas!!! And
we are proud of them!!!
Thanks for asking the "screw"questions Linda, I always wondered what those were
for.  I never thought of using the guide,, duh, sometimes I wonder about
My machine has been a humming all day.  I'm waiting to hear from my dealer
about sending my baby back to Illinois.
Has anyone tried using the feather stitch for machine quilting.  It is supposed
to give you the look of hand  quilting, but I can never get it to look just
I bought a spool of Sulky invisible thread yesterday, haven't tried it yet, but
will soon.  I'll let you all know.
Sure is cold and windy here today.  Snow is on the way so they say.  Fine with
me I can stay in and sew sew sew!!!
Have a great day everyone!!
Roni G
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 21:45:24 -0700
Subject: New Bernina

Hi All Bernina fans! 
It's great to have a place just for our machines, but I love the 
other nets too.  I do have a question. How can you make the gathering 
foot do a betterjob?  I have made several dresses for my daughter and
I almost always have to go back over the gathers 2 or 3 times!

I've been an owner for about eight months.  I go to Bernina club once a
month and I probably could call and ask but the problem hasn't come
up lately.  I keep forgetting to ask!  I love this 1080, I've never had
a machine that worked so well for me!  I went through about 5 machines
before I got this one.  I'll never buy another brand, upgrades are in the
future though!  As far as I know America is Bernina's biggest market,
or so I've been told.  I know ladies who do some sewing but most of the 
people I know don't sew.  That is why I love the nets so much.  In my
neighborhood I felt like a dinosaur going into extinction!

I just wanted to add that I got a new serger for x-mas from DH, 
a Bernina 2000D!  DH got the first t-shirt off of it!  DH is terrific!

Happy Holidays to all,

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 20:44:02 +0800 (U)
Subject: 1630 bobbin problems

I decided I needed a Bernina so that I would have the needle down settin
and the presser foot raising knee lever. I decided to get the 1630 even
though I haven't felt the need to embroider flowers on table clothes as they
quaintly show in the video. I wasn't aware at the time that the looping
system was different than the 1530. I don't think I am having too much
trouble with this but now I am feeling a little let down.

I have had problems with the bobbin on several occasions but I think it is
because I sometimes put the bobbin into the case backwards - my error not the

I would like to know how other 1630 users are doing, and has anyone found the
theoretical walking foot for the 1630 yet?

I use my machine for quilting and making pieced garments. I have to say it
sews through big layers of fabric like a dream.
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 21:54:15 -0500
Subject: Re:The Quilt Shop

Dear Sharon, I will send you my brochure. I just got back from a visit with
my folks and will get to it out to you tom. I would love to come that way, I
have some students that are from your area and I know they would love for me
to get to Va. I look forward to hearing from you after you get my brochure.
Pat R
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 00:01:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Bernina Digest 12/30/94

I'm in the early stages of pondering which model Bernina to buy and when.
I was talking today with an owner of an 1080 (or is it 1030?) which she 
loves. She told me the 1630's have a new, longer stitch length (rather than 
the 5 mm of the 1530's) which she says isn't as good.

I'm mostly interesting in quilting, but I would love to be able to use the
computer to put in designs and for that I assume the 1630 is the way to go. 

Any comments on clearing up the stitching differences on the 1530 and the
1630.  She is friends with a Bernina teacher who says that Benina was trying
to compete too hard with the Viking when they brought out the 1630? 

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 23:33:07 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: 1630 Bobbin Problems

Julia, My question to you is: is the 1630 a machine you bought fairly 
recently or one of the first ones out?  Reason:  they had to replace 
something in the earlier models to get the bobbin right or something like 
that.  I tend to remeber as brushes or something like that.  I know 
because my machine had to go to Ill. or wherever to get this fixed.  Got 
a loaner.  Now its back and fine.  Also, you do have to oil the bobbin 
part more often--actually helps it run better-that's what my dealer 
said.  Use the Scmetz Denim needles--better penetration--another one my 
dealer told me and it works for me.

Mary Ann
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 09:29:03 -0500
Subject: Using gathering foot

>>How can you make the gathering foot do a betterjob?  I have made several
dresses for my >>daughter and I almost always have to go back over the
gathers 2 or 3 times!

First of all, I never gather and attach at the same time because for me that
is much too complicated. The other advantage is that if you screw up, it's
very easy to pull your stitches out with a seam ripper. First you do some
trial runs. It's basically just a mathematical thing--if you start out with a
12" piece of fabric and it gathers down to 7" you can find out, using a
ration in proportion,  what you will end up with using, say, a 45" piece of
fabric.  If you don't know ratio in proportion, which is the most useful
thing I ever learned in math, the above figures out this way:
12      =    45
__            __
 7              x
so 12x equals the product of 7 x 45 which is 315. Therefore x will equal 315
divided by 12 or 26.25. 

You can vary the amount of gathering with both the stitch length and the
tension, but I rarely use the tension part. The longer the stitch, the more
fabric will be gathered. I generally just try to get fairly close, even with
a little left over, and hack off the excess. It is so much easier than
running 2 parallel lines of long stitches or zigzagging over a thread. I
bought my 1530 in Houston at the show and since feet and accessories were
also on sale at the same time, I knew from past experience which ones I
needed. I already had a quarter inch foot which I used with the 830, so I got
the gathering foot, the adaptor that takes generic low shank feet, the open
toed embroidery foot and the straight stitch plate. I have since bought a #29
foot (the big darning foot) for free motion embroidery and quilting, because
a friend of mine (hi, Robbi) had one and let me try it. 

Mary M
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 10:04:52 -0500
Subject: Paducah

Does anyone have any information about the Quilting Convention in Paducah, KY
and how I might get more information.
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 12:45:02 -0500
Subject: Which Special Feet for 1630?

Which special feet do you need for the 1630? I already have almost 20 feet
for my 1530/1090, including the walking foot &ruffler, which is a big
investment. I just bought the 1530, but am intrigued with upgrading to the
1630 if much of them are interchangeable.

Happy New Year &Happy Sewing!
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 12:45:18 -0500
Subject: I got the knees sewn

I received many replies to my doll knee problems, many thanks to all of you.
No, the 1630 does not come with a knee sewing foot, but I wouldn't be
surprised if Bernina had one. I wonder if it would also sew elbows, or if you
would have to buy a different foot for every joint...

The problem I was having was that I had to tightly stuff the lower leg, than
sew across the leg to form a knee. I found that if I added an extra bit of
batting, to level off the height somewhat, I could slowly sew across the
knee. I left lots of thread at each end of the seam and hand tied knots and
then buried them in the legs.

Happy New Year everyone. 

Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 12:50:43 -0500
Subject: New Piping Foot #38 vs Foot #12

Happy New Year!

Does anyone have any information/experience with Bernina's foot#38, called
their piping foot? I was in a store in Lansing, MI, yesterday &saw it for
the first time, along with a Bernina sales leaflet about it. What is the
difference in the 2 feet? If I already have #12, is it worth buying #38, in

Happy Sewing!
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:44:50 -0500
Subject: loopy nylon machine qltng

A while back I posted a query on how to get rid of the large loops that I was
getting as I did nylon thread machine quilting.  I used the .004 Sew Art
nylon  as recommended elsewhere and the 60/2 cotton thread on the bottom, but
intermittently (and always on start-up got large loops on the back).  Many
people gave me losts of suggestions, and one person "caught" the problem from
me after giving me advice.  At any rate, I have not completely solved the
problem, but here is what I found gives me the best results, tho
occasionally, those loops crop up.

needle:  tried metafil embroidery needle, 70/10, 80/12, 90/14 universals,
75/11 ballpoint, and finally got the recommended by Harriet Hargrave 75/11
quilting needle from Schmetz (green marking).  Got the Schmetz needles from
Clotilde, the only source I found.  These seemed to work the very best of

starting up:  bring up the threads, both bobbin and top thread to the top and
hold on to them as you start up, lock the threads in.  Start up verrrry

speed:  You need to get a rhythm that works.  This seems to be critical.  I
found I had a mess when I tried to go fast, but things went fairly well when
I did about 2 stitches per second speed.  You can go much faster with cotton
thread on the top.  (The cotton thread doesn't give the loop problem at all.)
 On my Bernina 1630, I set my speed to 2/3 speed, but had to go even slower.

The answer for the person who "caught" the problem was to move her needle
over one notch.   I found that the single hole plate was critical to my
success, so couldn't do that.  We may both actually have a minor adjustment
issue that a technician may have to look at.  If you have a Bernina 1630 and
have no problems no matter what speed you go, please let me know as I may
want to have this looked into.

And now that that is semi-resolved, can someone translate the "feather
stitch" that was mentioned as a nice hand-quilted look into 1630 menu
directions or some other way describe the stitch so I can try it?  Thanks in

Hope this helps others if they try quilting with nylon thread.

BTW I decided to use mostly white cotton thread for my quilt, with just a
minor bit of the nylon as I needed it for the effect I wanted.

Thanks for all your help.

Barb M
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 94 20:53:04 -0500
Subject: Happy New Year!!

Here's wishing everyone in the Bernina Fan Club a happy, pieceful New Year 
filled with lots of time to spend with your Bernina.

Sue T - who's spending New Year's Eve with DH, 'nina, &'wenta (Bernina &
Rowenta Iron).  What more could one want : )
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 22:32:27 -0600 (CST)
Subject: 931

I have a 931 which does not have the needle down.  Does anyone know if I 
can buy a new foot petal and get the needle down?


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