Bernina Fan Club Archives

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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 09:22:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 8/9/95

Peachy, I hope that you can overlook your feelings and look into the
workshops and trunk show I will be doing there in October. I am teaching my
Broaches, Machine Embroidery-- Drawing With the Needle, and Foil Ultra Suede
Quilted bag. It is going to be a fun couple of days. I will also do two trunk
show with all my bags, vests, and embroideries. So come see me. 
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:29:21 -0400
Subject: demographics

Did I miss the final tally on demographics?  Have been reading June's digests
and my appetite has been whetted(?) for final info.

From so calif where it is so hot the animals have each picked a doorway to
sleep in (cats and dogs) and one dog on bathroom floor (have to watch my feet
in the middle of the night).

anne w
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 20:49:00 UTC
Subject: on line sewing lessons
 
Yes!!!!! I would love on-line Bernina Lessons. It would be a great place to
share ideas and techniques that we all have picked up.  I like Suzy's idea of a
foot or technique a month where we all post what we have done with it ect.
Please count me in. Cynthia A.
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 20:50:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina Information

No, Shelly. I went in 1992.  I absolutely loved it!  It was hard to come down
to earth when I got home.  MP really does a good job, and I enjoyed all but one
class that I took.  I found the instructors to be very good, I was very pleased
with the kits that I received, and generally had a very good time.  I can't
wait to go again!  I am still using ideas and expanding on techniques that I
learned then!  Cynthia A.
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:25:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Lessons Online

I think this is a great idea.  However, I have a 26 year old 830 so am not
really interested in the problems people are having with their new, fancy
1200 and 1600 machines. Can we somehow divide this into general info and
specific (machine #) info so those of us "oldies" don't have to wade through
all the new machine stuff we can't possibly use.  Am trying to learn to
machine quilt well enough to satisfy myself, so would be most interested in
that topic.  Also, the different feet and their uses.  Am sure I don't make
the most of even my old simple machine.  Enjoy reading the Digest even if I
skip a lot that doesn't pertain to me.  Will the lessons be a chat format
with live exchange or simply email or bulletin board?
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:24:46 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: 1630 cursor

> Subject: 1630 Cursor
> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 00:53:40 +0100
> 
> Can someone tell me if there is a quick method of locating the cursor on the
> 1630 screen or moving it back to the top left of the screen at the press of
> a button? I spend so much time trying to find it on the screen. Am I the
> only person with this problem?
> 
My experience with computers leads me to move the ball to find the 
cursor.  If anybody knows a better way, let us all know.

Liz C
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 01:24:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 8/9/95

Wow! Workshops and trunk show? PRogers (sorry, I couldn't figure out your
name from all the gibberty at the top of the notes we get on internet), what
dates in October? I hope they're on a weekend or evening so I can come. Wish
you were coming to Santa Fe instead. It's a much prettier town. :> I'd love
to attend and see all your work!!!
 
Petchy
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:39:13 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Deco 500

About the Deco 500.  I don't have one and probably won't get one but 
that's because I don't really like pictures on my clothes.  But, on the 
other hand, one of the people in my local Bernina Club is a little old 
lady with silver hair and a german accent who made this absolutely fabulous 
jacket out of a purple sandwash fabric to go with a floral skirt and used 
the Deco 500 to put a big flower with swirls around it on the jacket.  
It matched beautifully and looked great.  So if that kind of thing is your 
style, I would think there would be lots of ways to use it.

Liz C
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:04:39 -0500
Subject: Big News!!

Hi Everyone, 

Well, it's not nearly done, but I just couldn't wait any longer.  The Bernina 
Fan Club now has it's own home page.  I have most of the archives there, a copy 
of the guidelines, the Dealer Hall of Fame &best of all, a place to store our 
lessons online.  So far those of you with access to the WWW you'll find the BFC 
Home page at:
http://ttsw.com/BFC

Or just go to the New stuff section of the World Wide Quilting Page &click on 
the link.  As I get more information on the page, I'll let everyone know.  Also, 
please e-mail me if you have any suggestions for the page.  Hope to see alot of 
you there.
Thanks, 
Sue T

PS: In the archives, I have removed all e-mail addresses, last names, and 
references to location.  I'm a big believer in privacy &would never post 
someone's name w/o their permission.
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 03:36:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Lessons Online

 
Don't worry about how old your machine is, I do think the lessons should
carry to every machine.  Yes, some people have the fancy machines, but the
lessons should be basically the same for every machine, I would think.
 
Mern
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:57:41 -0400
Subject: Buying a used machine

I'm still looking for a machine. (Not a Bernina owner yet, but hoping to be)
Would it be better to buy a newer, low-end machine, or a 20 year old
used-to-be top of the line machine?

I'm referring to the 1010 vs. the 830; both are approximately the same price.
The 1010 has fewer features, which I can live with, but will there be
sacrifices in quality as well? 

Anyone have knowledge of these machines or care to comment?
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:35:17 -0400
Subject: #5 foot and a revelation

You know how you sometimes learn something by accident?  I just don't pay
enough attention sometimes....

This weekend I was making a dress and got set to do yet another blind hem.  I
have a 1260 and this was the first time I'd noticed that the #7 stitch needed
the #5 foot.  So, I popped in on and got going.  Amazing!  That foot made
such a difference!  So NOW, maybe I'll pay more attention to that red number!

My thanks to Harriet for reminding us that you get what you pay for and that
the "best" price is not always the best price.  It's one thing for a crockpot
and another for a sewing machine.  :)

Blessings,

Kelly
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:55:57 PDT
Subject: Back from the shop

	I just got back my 1090 and my 2000DE from the shop.  
They were due their annual cleaning.  My 1090 works so much 
better, even better then it did new.  It purrs.  My 2000DE is 
just fine but their is no big difference in the sound.  What a 
pleasure to sew on a Bernina.  It just goes and goes.
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:34:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Buying a used machine

I don't think that you can get any higher in quality than the 830. The 930 is
close. They are thought to be the best Bernina's ever built. One thing to
look at is the speed of each machine. Some 830's are very sluggish and have
been run really hard. I would check to see if it goes fast enough for you.
Also, have the dealer look up the serial # and see if it is one of the older
830's that has a problem with the foot control overheating. If you are going
to quilt, this can be really aggrevating. The 1010 is a nice machine, but the
motor is not as heavy as the 830, so again, if you are planning on
free-motion quilting, it might not fit your needs as well. Check the motor
brushes on the 830 too.
Happy shopping.
Harriet
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:44:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Big News!!!

I have been meaning to say that a WWW page would be a good way to present
the lessions.  This has the possibility of pictures as well as text, and
a more flexible organization.  I know that there are many who don't have
WWW capability though.  I don't know what to do about that, but I do think
it would be a *very good* thing for Bernina to have this sort of facility.

dave
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:44:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: New cover stitch on the serger

What a coincidence.  I was just about to ask the same question.

If I were to upgrade to 2000DCE I would like to sell my 2000DE.  How much 
should I ask for this wonderful serger.  Perhaps someone from this group 
would like to buy it.

Nina
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:01:53 -0500
Subject: Atlanta

     Hi I have just moved to the Atlanta area and was wondering if anybody 
     could recommend a good Bernina Dealership for service and classes.
     Also, how about some good fabric stores, quilting stores, places to 
     buy dyes for fabric????
     Thanks for any help; I can't feel settled in until I 've a good store 
     to browse through.
     How can I sign up for the online sewing class?
     Thanks, Sharon
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:23:23 -0500
Subject: Monograms and needles

Hi,

I own a 1630 and I love it.  I am trying to learn as fast as I can but it is
not always easy to get my project finished when I can't figure out the right
thing to do.  My Bernina shop isn't that convenient to me so I would like to
ask this question here.  I was monogramming the other day using the built in
cursive letters and I had to try different needles and threads to get 
top thread to keep from appearing on top of the fabric.  I was using the tear
away stabilizer and I ended up using a size 80 to do the monogramming. I used
some Metrosene thread and can't remember the weight right now. (I am writing
this at work, shame on me).  Anyway when I was cruising the different stores
looking for the Metrosene thread I went into a store that sold Pfaffs and was
talking to a guy there and he said I should be using an emboidery needle.  Is
that necessary on a 1630 Bernina?  I took the guide class from my dealer and
I looked over my notes and it said for emboidery use a size 80 needle but I
had no mention of a emboidery needle in my notes.  BTW the monogramming turned
out okay.  I am such a perfectionist though I just want it to be the best it 
can be.

Thanks for any insight,

Lorrie A
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Subject: Re: Atlanta

>Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:01:53 -0500
>Subject: Atlanta
>
>     Hi I have just moved to the Atlanta area and was wondering if anybody 
>     could recommend a good Bernina Dealership for service and classes.
>     Also, how about some good fabric stores, quilting stores, places to 
>     buy dyes for fabric????
>     Thanks for any help; I can't feel settled in until I 've a good store 
>     to browse through.
>     How can I sign up for the online sewing class?
>     Thanks, Sharon


Hi, Sharon. Welcome to Atlanta!

The major Bernina dealer in Atlanta is Atlanta Sewing Center, which is I
believe on Chamblee-Tucker Rd. on the northeast side of town. It's not very
far outside the perimeter. 

There are several quilting stores: Village Quilt in Stone Mountain village, out
highway 78 in downtown Stone Mountain; Dream Quilters in Tucker, on Main
Street. There's also a new place out in Gwinnett County, on Beaver Ruin
Road, called Quilting Adventure.
Tiny Stitches is located in Marietta, and Calico Corners is in the main
square in
Roswell. 

My wife Lynn just took a dying course with someone from Dream Quilters. They
mostly
recommend buying the dyes direct from Procion. I don't know if they sell them or
not, locally.

Hope these pointers help! All of these stores are friendly and helpful.


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Rob H
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:45 CST
Subject: Re: Bernina lessons online???

     This sounds like a great idea to me!  I am a new Bernina 
     owner and need all the help I can get.  I hope we can get 
     this off the ground!
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:20:53 CDT
Subject: re: Monogram and Needles

I'm assuming that you mean that the bobbin
thread is appearing on the right side of the fabric.
To fix this, just lower the tension.  On the tension
knob, you'll notice a range that is marked with
black lines by it.  I finally figured out that these
markings resemble a buttonhole.  Anyway, this is
the range that I use for monogramming.  As for
a special needle, I've never tried one or thought
I needed one... 

Pam
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:24:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Monogram and Needles

Yes that is what I meant, the bobbin thread was appearing on the right side of
the fabric.  I did not try setting the tension all the way to the buttonhole
marker but I will try that to see what happens, thanks for your help

Lorrie
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:59:06 -0400
Subject: dealers, prices, etc.

I have read with interest the many posts about the different prices
and levels of service that people are experiencing across the country.
I would like to relate an experience that helped put this into 
perspective for me.

I bought a computer several years ago from an out-of-town dealer who
gave me a price that the stores in town just couldn't beat.  Once I had
that computer, I always had to always ship it back to the dealer whenever
I had problems with it.  I was in graduate school at the time and 1) didn't
have a lot of money and 2) needed the machine with me instead of in the shop
all the time.  The computer came with a year warranty and service agreement
so I didn't want to pay someone in town to service it when the store that
sold it to me was suppose to do it under the agreement for "free".  One
day not too long from the end of the semester the computer went haywire and
I had to send it back for servicing.  IT was SIX long MONTHS before I got
the computer back (not fixed either!!).  The dealer in this time wouldn't
answer my phone calls; didn't fix the computer; and only communicated with me
when the warranty ran out and he could charge me for his services!!  That 
computer I saved so much money on ended up costing me much more than if
I had payed for it from one of the local dealers -- not only in dollars but
in sheer frustration also.

My Bernina dealer (as I can tell from your posts) charges more than most
of your dealers (my 1630 was 3500 (I got a serger with it though) and my
Deco 500 was 1999 and the scanner was 1399).  BUT, she services my machines
per the agreement, does the service quickly and correctly, answers all my
many many STUPID questions, and has quickly become my very good friend.  I
don't feel like I am the victim of price gouging because as Harriet said in
her post I know my dealer has to make a living and has to pay all the very
good ladies that share their knowledge and their skills and their encouragement.
I hope they never go out of business because I don't know where I would
go then -- Walmart just doesn't hack it for this kind of stuff.  

I paid for a Bernina.  I got not only that but much more in the process.
Dependability, a source of knowledge and ideas, and friendship. I think I
got a really good deal!!!

Suzanne P

ps. My dealer is Gina's Sewing Center in Knoxville.  IT is in a big red 
barn behind a nursery (my 6 year old calls it the store on the dirty road).
IF you are coming through Knoxville sometime, stop by   -- it is well
worth the trip.
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 03:03:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Buying a used machine

My friend who is so good at quilting wants to sell her 930, but doesn't know
how much to ask. It has a new motor on it. It was her mother's, who was an
outstanding seamstress, and now she's had it for several years. I'm not sure
just how old it is. If anyone is interested, we can do all the research
regarding its history, age, etc.
 
Petchy
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:19:24 -0500
Subject: Re: New cover stitch on the serger

>>Linda,
The main difference that I know about between the 2000DCE and the Elna is
that the Bernina cover stitch is 5 mm wide and the Elna is only 3 mm.  Also,
many dealers will allow the full sale price of your existing machine if it
is less than six months old as a trade in value.  This may be an individual
dealer decision rather than a Bernina policy.  It wouldn't hurt to ask.  
Barbara
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:50:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Monogram and Needles

Lorrie
The embroidery needles are relatively new and so not everyl one has
incorporated them into their lessons.  I have a 1630 also and in addition to
using the emb needle and stabilizer, I had to tighten the bobbin tension.I
had loosened my upper tension all the way to 0 and it still pulled the
bobbin thread to the top.  It seems my bobbin from the factory was too
loose.  I'm blaming it on vibration in shipping from Switzerland.  However,
so I could play with the bobbin tension when using decorative threads, I
purchase another bobbin case, marked the latch with perm marker so I have
one for sewing and one for decorative work.  Hope this helps.  I'm a
perfectionst too.
Barbara
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 07:31:07 EDT
Subject: Re: Monogram and Needles

in re monograming - adjust the tension to 4.5 or less so that the top
thread comes down on the bottom.  It's just like satin stitching or making
a buttonhole.

Ruth B
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 08:39:45 -0400
Subject: foot #71

Has anyone out there had a problem with the #71 flat feller on the the 1630?.
 It seems fine on heavier fabrics, but doesn't do very well on the light ones
(batiste).   I think it has to do with the 9mm width.  Would like to hear if
I'm the only one.

Thanks,
Marty
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 08:43:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Double needle question

  THhanks to all who answered my question about double needle limitation on
the 16330. I had it all wrong way around. I was choosing the stitch first,
then assuming the machine would choose the appropriate needle width limit.
Now I understand what is going on.
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 08:52:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Another use for memory

     Here is another use for machine memory. Do you ever get out your
machine and wonder what size needle you left in it last time you sewed?
I never can remember. I decided to use the first segment of the machine's
memoryy to record the size and type of needle I'm using at the time I am
sewing. Next time I get out the machine I go into memory and there it is.
If I decide to change the needle, I erase what is there and record the
new needle information. Eeasier than sticking on a piece of paper with
hthe information written down? No - but much more gratifyingly high tech!
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:03:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Mouthy Quilter

Dear Harriet,

     I sell Berninas (not a dealer) and I liked what you said about fair
profit.  It is necessary to remind people that service costs though 
courtesy comes from the heart.  While the Wal-Mart Mentality is truly great
for toilet tissue it doesn't work for appliances that will need attention
at some later date.  I think you would be an excellent representative for
the Bernina group. I think it is only fair to Bernina, however, to relay the
concerns of sewers who have taken their lessons.  I get people calling 
into the store who complain about this and that and have never taken lessons
nor really familiarized themelves with the manual.  A certain degree of 
self-help is necessary wether one buys a sewing machine or a microwave.

    I think it is necessary for a complaint or complement about a dealer to
be followed by the particulars.  Someone else stated that here on the net 
and I agree fully.  The people doing a good job should be awared with our
sincere thanks.
 
                     Thanks for listening,
                       Jacque
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:18:37 -0400
Subject: Re: 1630 Monograms

Don't feel bad about being a "perfectionist"!  For great Monograms on the
1630, try using an embroidery needle or metalica needle and 30wt. rayon
thread, like sulky.  Will look wonderful!

Shelley
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 11:01:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 8/9/95

Well stated Sandy and Harriet.  Jodie 
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Subject: I have a $25 coupon.

I have a $25 coupon good towards a fifty dollar purchase in Bernina
accessories. I am seeking suggestions. I already have a walking foot, the
#10- and #12 feet, an extra bobbin case. I don't have a straight stitch
plate. I am thinking of getting that.

This store sells feet for about $25 each if not more. 

Thanks.

RobbiE
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:36:54 -0400
Subject: Re: mouthy quilter

I agree with you Jacque. Some of the problems we encounter, in the store and
here on line could be solved with a little research into the manuals. Bernina
has a lot of educational material available, but sometimes the pictures don't
appeal to use, so we don't buy the pamphlets and read them. There is alot of
valuable tips and tricks in them, to apply to an item of our choice. We are
very visually oriented instead of content oriented. I hope that the on-line
lessons work, and possible spur us into digging into our manuals and
information deeper. Harriet
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 06:48:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Martha Pullen

Yes, Jacque, we'll be returning to Huntsville, Alabama next July for Martha
Pullen's (of Sew Beautiful Magazine fame) School of Fashion.  Classes deal in
everything from Heirloom, Smocking, Embroidery, Silk Ribbon, Gimp Work and
embellishments of all sorts - and more!   Call the 800 number in Sew
Beautiful for information.

Shelley
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 07:54:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Atlanta

Check out Iris lee who gives great classes . She is in Macon Ga....221
Lorrain Woods Dr. Macon Ga. We have done a new video on CUTWORK AND
NEEDLELACE and she has a  newsletter about her classes. Pat R
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Subject: Re: I have a $25 coupon 
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 09:32:54 -0400

If I were lucky enough to have that coupon, and had the feet you list,
I would get a straight stitch plate and a #37 foot.  (My dealer sells
the straight stitch plate for about $33 and the #37 for about $27, if
memory serves me well.)  Even if you don't quilt, there are many times
you need a 1/4 inch seam allowance, and the #37 is wonderful for that
(and 1/8 inch too).  Also, I think it does a better straight stitch
than the all-purpose #1 foot - there is no slot for side-to-side
needle motion on the #37.  Perhaps others will comment on this.

I've recently discovered the rolled hem feet and have found that once
you get them to work, they are wonderful.  Maybe your dealer would let
you play with one?  That would add a whole new capability to your
goodies box :-).

Debbie
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:06:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Mouthy Quilter

I know this sounds weird, but I LOVE manuals. I've been working with
computers (personal) for more than 15 years now, and every software package
I've learned, I've taught myself from the manuals or third party books. This
includes some toughies like Ventura Publisher and Corel Draw. I think the
tutorials are the way to go. On my own time, at my own speed, etc.
 
When I got my 1530 and my 2000DE, I immediately sat down with the books that
came with them and went through them at the machines page by page. It took
me an hour to thread the serger the first time, but By George, I did it!
LOL. When I was visiting in Rochester, NY, in June I visited the Bernina
dealer to get the gathering attachment for the serger. They had a wall full
of pamphlets about different feet, methods, etc. I got quite a few of them
and they are great! I would love to have a list of all that they publish and
sit and pick and choose and order more of them. I have the ones I have in a
binder handy to my sewing area.
 
Does anyone know of any third party books that have been written just on
Bernina machines?
 
Petchy
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 09:21:25 EDT
Subject: Re: Mouthy Quilter

To Harriet &all:
I've noticed that many of the pictures Bernina uses are so dark that you
cannot see what is actually being depicted.  Maybe it would be good to
point that out to Bernina.  For me, a picture is truly worth a 1000 words.

Ruth B
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 09:49 CST
Subject: Re[2]: Mouthy Quilter

     I think Jacque and Harriet have made very good points about 
     dealers, cost, and service.  I learned some time ago that 
     when I buy any appliance I am buying service (or lack 
     thereof) as well.  So while it pays to get a reasonable 
     price for the equipment, it is only smart to pay a little 
     extra, if necessary, to get good service.  And the lessons 
     are a must.  If you are not of an adventurous nature, and I 
     guess I'm not, then the information gained in class about 
     what your machine can do is extremely helpful.  You can 
     always go back and experiment, read, and ask about how to do 
     it, as long as you are aware of WHAT it will do.
     
     Let's reward the good dealers, of which I'm sure there are 
     many, and just don't give the "bad" dealers are business.
     
     And I'll see you "in the Tetons" in October, Harriet!
     
     From Shirley
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 20:30:40 -0500
Subject: Re: I have a $25 coupon


>I have a $25 coupon good towards a fifty dollar purchase in Bernina
>accessories. I am seeking suggestions.

Robbi - If you're a quilter (or even thinking about doing some piecing), I
would suggest the "Little Foot"--for an exact 1/4" seam.  I think it runs
about $24.95.

                               Jacque
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Date: 16 Aug 95 22:57:18 EDT
Subject: Binder attachment for 1630

First, let me say how pleased I am to be receving all this great information
about my favorite machine.  Let me also state that I am very grateful to have a
supportive and helpful dealer, as well as the people he employs at his shop.
They have been very responsive to my needs, and if they don't know the answer to
the questions I pose, they go to the source-the corporate office-and get back to
me quickly.  If it were not for them, I would not have been aware the the
Bernina Designer, published 4 times a year, free, to provide information on the
software, nor would I have been aware of the Bernina 1630 Library, published
monthly at a cost of about $9 providing info on feet, machine memory, etc.  I
have also purchased several books that had Bernina info in them, tho not
specifically written for the 1630.
What I have to report is this.  I ordered a binder attachment from my dealer and
picked it up today.  I admit to having problems understanding the metric system,
and was not sure how large the finished product would be, but hoped to be able
to bind my quilts a little easier with it.  I was stunned at the cost-$163,
including the #94 foot, which was necessary for the attachment, and the CA tax.
Nevertheless, the dealer told me to try it, and if it didn't do what I wanted, I
could return it (see how nice they are?).  I did that, and found that it is only
capable of making a finished binding of about 1/2 inch .  You have to cut the
fabric exactly 26 mm, and that cannot be more than 1 mm off (plus or minus).
Therefore, it is not satisfactory for binding a bed size quilt.  I found that
the binding foot on my little Featherweight was able to produce the same thing,
and the stitch was slightly better.  Otherwise, I have been *very* pleased with
all of the other feet that I have purchased, and I have accumulated quite a few
over the years, as I previously owned a 1530.  Hope this is helpful to someone.
Pat 
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Date: 16 Aug 95 22:31:17 EDT
Subject: Another use for memory

I guess I am really dense, but how do you do that?  Pat
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:19:41 EDT
Subject: Bernina Publications

Pat:

I too like to read computer manuals and have read most of
Bernina's.  You mentioned two publications however, that I
was not aware of --Bernina Designer and Bernina 1630 Library 
that I would like to order. How or who should I contact to sign 
up for these publications? 

Harriett's comments about dealer costs and responsibilities were 
execellent!  I bought my machine from an individual that provides
excellent service and machine support knowing full well that there
would be no Bernina Classes or Clubs.  In the long run it is the 
service that is going to be far more valuable. 

I have tried to find a group that would like to gather in the 
evenings
or on week-ends to sew (like a quilting bee) but have been 
unsuccessful.
I find that in order to get with others that sew I must join a class. 
 It has
been fun but a lot of times I am spending money just to sit and sew 
with 
others.  Does anyone else feel the same way?  In this entrepreneurial 

world are we loosing the willingness to be friends and share for the
opportunity of making money?  
It's a tough question!

One more topic here.
I live in CT, close to New York and would like to know if there is a
"school" for sewing in the area that offers evening or weekend 
classes?
I would like to learn more about garment sewing.There are a few  
Textile Colleges which are good but I am looking for
something closer to 'sewing'.  I have also seen a lot of sewing get 
aways 
that would be wonderful, but I cannot get away from work as much as
I would like to.  Any suggestions?   

Lorna Sue Sew
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:38:03 -0600
Subject: Bernina Feet

I second the motion for the #37 foot---and yes, Robbi does do terrific
quilts...I use the #37 for all straight stitching.  Another hint for people
wanting new feet.  My old Bernina dealer stopped selling Berninas.  The
dealer then sold all the Bernina stuff at a reduced price.  When I was
visiting my mother in New Orleans, we went to the Bernina dealer, and
again, she was going out of business and I got trade-in feet---from people
who had upgraded to the 1630 etc.---for a fraction of the cost...check
around.

Jane
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:09:57 -0400
Subject: Re: New cover stitch on the serger

I'm interested in upgrading my Bernette for the new 2000dce with the cover
stitch.  This is the stitch that I always thought a serger should have as it
is such a standard in the RTW industry Now just how easy/difficult is it to
fanagle the conversion steps to this stitch. I've found out it is twenty-odd
steps. Is it a breeze once you get the hang of it or just a pain to bother
with?   Input and feedback please!
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 01:29:00 UTC
Subject: Bernina DIgest 8/14/95

Sue,
   I have a 930 that I bought new MANY years ago.  I own a 1230 Bernina and
an Elna 7000.  Guess what I sew on: the 930.  The 1230 has never been out of
the box.  I quilt, sew, embroider, etc., on the 930; it has the prettiest
stitch and hums like the Cadillac it is.  If you can get a 930 that is in
good condition, I recommend it.
 
      Nikki
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:14:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina DIgest 8/14/95

If you really want a fine and professional look to your monogramming use a
Sulky Rayon Thread or Mez Alcazar embroidery thread.  Loosen your top tension
just every so slightly and use a new Schmetz Machine Embroidery needle size
75/11 or 80//12.  You will be so pleased with this method.  Regular thread is
actually too heavy and dull for monogramming or embroidery.  You can also use
the cotton machine embroidery threads.  DMC makes them a size 50 or metrosene
has a 30 or 60 weight.  These are only sold in your specialty sewing stores.
 Sulky can be found in most every fabric store on the market now.  It is a
good quality thread - but as with all rayons - do not use a bleach additive
detergent or it will strip the sheen from the rayon (it dulls the thread and
can also "tarnish" your metals).  
Sew Sincerely,
Sandy
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:05:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Buying a used machine

I had a 930 that I sold to upgrade to a 1530 two years back.  The 930 had
superior stitch quality, and it was just a workhorse- rel;iable and
consistent.  Never had a problem with that machine and I really wish I had
kept it.  I get to visit it as I sold it to a friend.  I don't NOT like my
1530, it's just not as superior as I thought it would be...
If you'r interested in an old machine, a 930 would be a good choice.
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:12:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Re:[2] Mouthy Quilter

>      thereof) as well.  So while it pays to get a reasonable 
>      price for the equipment, it is only smart to pay a little 
>      extra, if necessary, to get good service.  And the lessons 

>      Let's reward the good dealers, of which I'm sure there are 
>      many, and just don't give the "bad" dealers are business.

That is exactly what I chose to do; however, in doing so, I must travel 4.5
hours instead of 15 minutes to reach my dealer. I was willing to pay a
little more for my machine to keep it local and have that local support, but
$1000 savings (exactly) over the local dealer's SALE price, I couldn;t pass
up. Also had the fact that the local dealer was impossible to ask questions,
get demos, etc. I knew if I couldn't get good service while shopping for my
machine, I was gonna get worse treatment after I purchased. I get the best
service &response (I called alot when I first got my machine) from the
dealer I bought from. I went in to the local dealer to pick up some feet,
and again, was treated shabbily (wouldn't wait on me til 'her' customers
were all gone) so I order them all now. I hate dealing from afar, but am
extremely happy with the good dealer I have chosen. I am even going out this
fall to look at the sergers and/or embroidery machine (both are in my
future!)

On an up-note, I am looking forward to on-line lessons! I have already
visited 'our' homepage, and think that will be a wonderful venue for this!
We can even load photos for the visually needy (G). I also 'vote' for the
foot of the month class...I keep buying those feet! Wish I knew loads more
things to do with them! When one of you talks about a foot, I buy it! (I am
compulsive, as you can tell!)

So, happy sewing to all, and love those Berninas!

Robin
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:12:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Mouthy Quilter

> here on line could be solved with a little research into the manuals.
are
> very visually oriented instead of content oriented. I hope that the

Harriet: HOWEVER (G)...I recently purchased the ruffler. The little
instruction pamphlet (?) that came with it, as well as the guide book (yes
I've bought those, and use them) say to adjust 2 different things. My
ruffler only has the one thing on it to adjust. The thing it shows in the
pictures isn't there! I about went mad. I read, and reread in 2 guidebooks
and compared all the pictures. That gauge is definitely in the pictures and
descriptions of what to adjust, but is no way no how on the ruffler. I wish
the written docs would agree with the product! Also found this to be true in
another case. In the manual that came with my machine. When I purchased it,
I sat down for a whole day and went page by page through the manual and
played. One page (and I'd have to go dig it out now to know for sure) was
about a certain type of stretch stitch. Said to use a certain stitch (I
pressed that number) and use a certain foot#. Okay...but the machines LED
gave me a different recommended foot (I can handle that) and the picture in
the manual showed a totally different foot than the one in the written
instructions. Totally befuddled me! (So I don;t sew on knits anyhow!)

I wonder if a lot of the manual/instruction problems are the result of poor
translations. I have a strong background in German (MA, and lived there for
2 years, taught for 8 years), and purchased &used a lot of patterns while
there...found that the patterns I puchase here from foreign cos. are very
poorly translated &make common mistakes made by translators who are
translating into a language not their mother-tongue. I have been toying with
the idea of requesting a manual in German ( I can read Swiss dialect) and
see if it is better. 

I still love my Bernina, and love my guidebooks, tho! I have learned a
wealth of things by just toying with a page or two at a sitting...like
picking a foot, and delving in for a while...experimenting with them, with
the guidebooks as my lead. Great stuff, if you read em!

BTW, any chance you are coming to Pittsburgh anytime?!?!
Robin
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:08:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Mouthy Quilter

Petchy,

The only third party book on Berninas that I know of is from the Chilton
Publishers called "Know Your Bernina".  I have a copy but it is "old".  It
only goes up to the 1130.  I don't think it has been updated.  It had a lot
of neat info in it and was very helpful at the time.  Sure would be nice to
have a similar book that goes through the newer machines.  I love manuals
too.  Most of the time I can figure things out from them, but sometimes need
someone just to show me how to reinforce them.  I am currenty trying to
learn to use some new (to me) software programs.  Will be getting the
upgrade on my 1630 Thursday.  I'm looking forward to trying some ideas out
on the expanded stitch designer.  Another challenge.

Barbara
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:48:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Recommendations on the Bernina 1001

Hi all!
My Bernina dealer has a sale on the 1001 models through August 31st.  
Sale price is $829; I get 20% off any accessories I buy at that time, and 
I get a $25.00 coupon to top it all off.  Does anyone have any good or 
bad things to say about the 1001?  What about the price?  I do quilt 
piecing (and hopefully machine quilting -- when I finally reach that 
stage!), occasional clothes sewing, and some simple home sewing like duvet 
covers.  Does not having the "DC" motor make a difference?  (The DC 
motor starts at the 1031 level.)  What about the difference in "hooks"?  
This is not the "Bernina hook"; it's a rotary hook.  Of course, that's what 
they use in the 1630 now.  Is it better to hold out for the 1031 model?  I 
really don't need a computer model for the amount of sewing I do.  I've used 
a friend's 1130 and it was really nice, but a bit of an overkill for me.  
Oh, and what about the new "plastic" table that you slide on to the machine 
arm?  It has the raised ruler area that helps one to sew a 
straight seam.  Is it really a lot better than the aluminum table?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.  I'm sorry if any of this 
duplicates what has recently been discussed, but I'm new to the group!  
Thank you very much. 

Susan
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Date: 17 Aug 95 14:47:48 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 8/16/95

Harriet,
     I attended BU in Toronto last weekend and heard about your accident.  I
hope you are recovering and back in the swing quickly.  I missed meeting you,
but had a wonderful time.  My sides still hurt from all the laughing.  Vera is a
true Bernina crazy lady. 
                                                     Take Care,    Carol
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:57:04 EDT
Subject: Stitch

I used the Laddar Stitch (G1-1 on the 1630) to attach 1/4" grosgrain 
ribbon to fabric.  I adjusted the stitch width so that the needle 
just caught each side of the ribbon.  By using thread color slightly 
different than the ribbon, it gave an interesting effect.
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:57:38 EDT
Subject: Dealer Dilemma

A year ago there were 3 Bernina dealers within a 70-mile range from 
my home.  I purchased my 1630 last November from the dealer nearest 
to my home.  They were very nice, knowledgable, and offered classes 
to anyone regardless of the brand of machine or where it was 
purchased.  They were wonderful.  I realized that it was important to 
support the dealer closest to home or where you could get help when 
you needed it.  Now this dealer is no longer in business.  With the 
competitiveness among dealers, I feel uncomfortable asking questions 
of a nearby dealer.  Where is the protection for the consumer?

None of the 3 dealers had much good to say about doing business with 
Bernina.  They all agree that the machines are great, but the support 
is poor.  Now the second Bernina dealer is dropping their Bernina 
connection.  They told me that they only see the Bernina Rep. once a 
year while the support for Viking seems unlimited.  I also heard the 
same positive statement about the Elna people.  

It seems to me there is something wrong with the system.  I want to 
agree with you, Harriet, but there must be others like me who feel 
left out on a limb.
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:56:07 EDT
Subject: Resource Idea

I have been copying messages from the Bernina Fan Club/Digest onto my 
word processor when it is a topic I think I might want to refer back 
to.  If there is not a specific subject, I type one in bold type.  I 
also bold type certain words in the messages that I think will be 
good references later.  Periodically I print these and put them in a 
3-ring binder.  They are a GREAT resource!  If  I need further 
information at a later date, I have the E-Mail addresses to write to.


I am really appreciative of all the good information I am getting.  
You are the best resource I have!!!
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:35:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Deco 500

I have a Deco 500 without a scanner.  i find I use it alot to decorate
blouses, my grandkids cloths.  you just wouldn't believe the beautiful
embroidery it does.  So easy to do.  i set it up and it runs why i do the
laundry or work on my other projects.  I do agree it is a lot of money for a
toy but if you can afford it go for it.
Kit
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Date: 17 Aug 95 21:11:51 EDT
Subject: Bernina publications

Lorna Sue-In answer to your question:  Bernina Designer (for the computer
software information) and the Bernina 1630 Library (for the machine information)
are both available through your dealer.  That is where I get my copies.  I
suppose if you don't have any other way, you could contact Bernina (check your
manual for address).  Hope this helps.  Pat
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:44:47 -0500
Subject: Re: New cover stitch on the serger

  > I'm interested in upgrading my Bernette for the new 2000dce with the cover
  > stitch.  This is the stitch that I always thought a serger should have as it
  > is such a standard in the RTW industry Now just how easy/difficult is it to
  > fanagle the conversion steps to this stitch. I've found out it is twenty-odd
  > steps. Is it a breeze once you get the hang of it or just a pain to bother
  > with?   Input and feedback please!

Both!  I have decided the hardest part is re-threading the machine when you
convert it.  You cannot just tie on new thread.

I do it without looking at the manual anymore, and its something like this:

0 - select cover stitch tensions with knob.
1 - cut all thread and pull it out of the machine.
2 - remove the needles
3 - lower the needles (the thing that holds them) and change the switch to cover
4 - remove the throat plate and put in the cover stitch one,
5 - replace the foot with the cover stitch one
6 - put in the needles
7 - replace knife cover with cover stitch "table"
8 - re-thread machine and test stitch.

I advise using the manual the first 5 times or so, as the steps are quite
order-dependent, and its easy to discover you can't do the next step because
you did something at the wrong time.

I switch it about once or twice a night.

The machine is quite nice to use, and the cover stitch gives my stuff a 
professional look.

I am considering making swimwear and underwear to sell... so
given all that, I am considering getting a used serger so I won't have to
switch, but I think I might be a bit too spoiled by the 2000DCE.

dave
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 11:32:54 PDT
Subject: RE: Bernina Digest 8/15/95

The non-readers of manuals are definitely not a problem unique to 
Bernina owners. I work in Technical Support and if anyone would figure 
out how to get people to do the self help part, it would be worth a gold mine!

I have an older Bernina (801). It is a true work horse and I love it.
 I can't see that I would have much need for the more advanced stuff at 
this time, but of course you never know what might pique my interest 
next! I sure wish it did not have to be oiled so often, though. Do the 
newer ones need that frequent a maintenance?

Enjoy this list. Thanks everyone.
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Subject: WHAT'S YOURS CALLED?
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 11:38:00 bst

Hi All

I've just joined the club from way over here in sunny UK.  I think it's 
really great all these messages coming with all these helpful tips and 
advice.

You all seem to LOVE your machines - how many of you name them and 
personalise them a little?  I name my machine Bobbi, as the important bit 
was missing when I bought it!!


Sassie
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:04:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 8/16/95

What happened to Harriet??? She had an accident? Is she ok?
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:15:53 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: Atlanta

     Thanks for the info.  Aren't there two Atlanta Sewing Centers.  Is one 
     better than the other.  I will have to go out to Dream Quilters.  If 
     they are teaching dying they must be a " good" shop.
     Thanks again.
     Sharon
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Subject: Re: Bernina Publications
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:27:46 +0100

 
> I too like to read computer manuals and have read most of
> Bernina's.  You mentioned two publications however, that I
> was not aware of --Bernina Designer and Bernina 1630 Library 
> that I would like to order.

I am an information-aholic and have never seen these publications. The only
information I've got is my instruction manual! I rang the UK distributors,
but they haven't heard of them either and suggest they are produced by
Bernina USA. Any ideas how we can get them here in the UK? My partner is
going to LA in the Autumn, would he be able to visit a Bernina dealer and
buy them? 

--  Nita B
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:12:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Mouthy Quilter

I can't agree more with Harriet and Jacquie regarding service in the Bernina
stores, I had the opportunity to look at another brand machine in an all
purpose vacuum/ sewing machine store.  The difference in the knowledge given
was remarkable,  the salesperson knew a little about everything but  not alot
about any one machine.  I felt her knowledge was so disjointed, so obscure,
 I wanted to run out and hug my Bernina dealer for their superior service and
attitude, But it was past their closing time LOL. Jane
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:18:44 -0400
Subject: Re: What's yours called??

Hi every one,
   Reading the posts you all out rank me by far I just got my first.  It is a
1090s and I really love it.  Haven't been back for lessons yet but will
probably go next week.  Right now I'm just experimenting.  Glad to be part of
the group.
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 23:52:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 8/16/95

Petchy,
 
I think she said she stepped on a piece of metal that had rust on it!.
Right now she is on the road taking her daughter to school.  She will be
back in a few days.
 
Patches
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 23:09:40 -0400
Subject: Third Party Bernina Books

I believe Mary Lou Nall has published an assortment of Bernina guidebook-type
reference books various Bernina models over the years...LH
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 23:11:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Recommendations on the Bernina 1001

Anymore info on the reference to a raised plastic table would be appreciated.
Who makes this?
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 09:43:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Mouthy Quilter

I have a 1230 purchased at Daisy Kingdom in Portland, Oregon.  The service,
advice, training and personal attention I've received at Daisy Kingdom so
impressed my husband that he bought me a 2000D serger.  I am totally
satisfied with both machines, almost to the exclusion of considering anything
more advanced (though I have had twinges of desire for an embroidery
machine).  If all dealers were as good as Daisy Kingdom, there wouldn't be a
problem to report on the 'Net.
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 95 13:50:00 UTC
Subject: Third Party Bernina Books

Thanks, LH. Do you know where I might obtain Mary Lou Nall's books? We don't
have any real local sources for much of anything to do with sewing.
 
Petchy
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 10:20:21 -0400
Subject: MAnual needed for an 807

Greetings all

I just took delivery of an 807 nina, which unfortunately was separated from
its manual in years past.  Could anyone make me a copy of the said manual or
point me to where I can obtain one? I would appreciate mucho mucho!! :)

Thank you in advance 

Sylvain
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 08:37:01 -0700
Subject: Bobin mechanism

Can anyone shed some light on a statement I heard recently?

Someone told me that if you are considering buying a 1530 versus
a 1630 you should buy the 1530 because the bobin mechanism
is better in the 1530.

Thanks
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Date: 19 Aug 95 11:42:37 EDT
Subject: guide lessons

Hi,
I just bought a 1080 and so far I really like it. The problem is I went to a
dealer about 60 miles from here because I thought that it was the only one
around. Much to my dismay, the next week I got our new phone book and it listed
a new dealer that had just opened up a couple of months before and only about 15
miles away. Well the new dealer said that I could get a certificate of some kind
and take the guide lessons at her shop but the dealer I bought my machine from
refuses to cooperate. Any suggestions would be appreciated!


Joanie S.
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:01:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 8/16/95

Thanks everyone for the concern! I had a STUPID accident 2 days before I was
to go to Toronto for Canada B.U. Was playing volley ball (barefoot of course)
and came down on a sharp rusty piece of metal. Cut the bottom of my foot wide
open. 4 hours later in the emergency ward (you could die in those places!) 12
stitches, tetnous (sp) boosters, and a strong word of advise from the doctor
to not travel for a week or more in case of infection, I was home with my
foot propped up feeling very embarrassed about the whole thing. Seldom do I
play, and maybe this was a sign that I am better at working anyway!
Things are healing really well, I can walk now, and no infection. A huge
apology to my students in Canada that I stood up. That was only the second
trip in 10 years that I have had to cancel because of injury or illness. Hope
it doesn't happen again for a long time. Wear shoes when playing volleyball!
BG
Harriet 
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 11:47:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Mouthy Quilter

Hi Robin - 
I do agree with your comments. There are things like the ruffler that catch
us off guard. My comments were guided more toward the questions asked on-line
that I KNOW are covered in the manuals, and covered well, but they just don't
open them and read a bit. I agree that translation must be a problem. I see
this with the Pfaff machine all the time. It's really hard to make heads or
tails of the directions.

I would love to come your way sometime. All I need is to be contacted by a
local guild, Bernina dealer or quilt shop in your area. I am now booking 1997
dates. 

Happy quilting and sewing!!!
Harriet
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 13:53:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Atlanta

In a message dated 95-08-14 15:27:57 EDT, you write:

>   Hi I have just moved to the Atlanta area and was wondering if anybody 
>     could recommend a good Bernina Dealership for service and classes.
>     Also, how about some good fabric stores, quilting stores, places to 
>     buy dyes for fabric????
>     Thanks for any help; I can't feel settled in until I 've a good store 
>     to browse through.
>     How can I sign up for the online sewing class?
>     Thanks, Sharon

Sharon,

Welcome to Atlanta!  I just  love  the stores here.  

There are 2 Atlanta Sewing Center stores.  I have signed up for 2 classes
being given by Mary Lou Nall in September.  She must be the expert in Bernina
techniques.   I was in one of her classes last year  on Bernina feet and she
was fantastic!  I wish I could take all of her classes but I can't take off
that much time from work.  I have signed up for her Heirloom and the Eyelet
classes.

There are two top quality fabric shops that I frequent, High Sewciety and
Sewsational Fine Fabrics.  High Sewciety has a new owner and I plan to go
over there today to check it out.  I need some buttons I hope they still
carry because my dry cleaners tend to trash them.

I took a great class on machine quilting at Tiny Stitches.  They have a
wonderful selection of quilting fabrics.

Enjoy the stores!

Jane 
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:35:32 EDT
Subject: Bobbin Mechanism

Greetings,

I have a 1630, but never owned a 1530.  My machine was recalled about 
a month after I bought it and was sent away to Chicago on a train.  
Since it came back it has been the most wonderful machine I have ever 
owned.  The bobbin mechanism is different from the 1530, less complex.
  When I went to purchase a black latch bobbin case for bobbin work 
with heavier threads, I found it wasn't needed.  The 1630 regular 
bobbin case was all I needed to purchase for just under $30 as 
opposed to $60 for the black latch bobbin.  You need to have two 
bobbin cases, so that the one for regular sewing is not loosened or 
taken out of adjustment to accomodate thicker threads.  You just mark 
the extra case so that you can tell them apart and adjust the spare 
for the specialty threads.  I have had no problems, and I sew alot.  
I've had the machine for just over a year. 
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 15:10:43 -0500
Subject: What's yours called

Sassie

Welcome.  I have always called my machine "Baby".  Not very creative, but
that shows how much I love it.  I was in the UK a few years ago and fell in
love with it.  I have some quilting friends there.  Would love to visit
there again some day.         

Barbara 
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 15:10:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Bobbin Mechanism

Judith

I was told that the reason the bobbin mechanism in the 1630 was changed was
to accommodate the bobin indicator mechanism and the wider and side feeding
stitches.  It took me some time to get used to it as I had a 1230 before the
1630, but, now I have learned how to convince it that I'm the master.  I
really do like it as it has so much more potential.  Now I just have to
learn how to use it all.

Barbara
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 95 21:20:00 UTC
Subject: What's yours called??

I call my 1530 "Margarita" after my favorite drink. :) I haven't named my
2000DE or the Deco 500 yet.
 
Petchy