Bernina Fan Club Archives

April 95

Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:58:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/12/95

Jane wrote


Well, says I, if there isn't, there certainly should be and let me be the
first to say come hither all ye 'ninas who are abused and neglected and find
contented sewing here at my house!  Y'all come.  

I'll be glad to do my bit for 
SOBS -- Sisterhood of Bernina Safety. I feel so much better. Now all we need
is an anthem.

============bye for now======================
Mary Beth G
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:51:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Making cloth napkins

I am looking forward to getting a new serger--when and if--because I 
would like to make table napkins for myself and gifts.  I am thinking of 
the serger as producing a neat, durable edge.  However, is this the best 
or only way?  I also have an old Bernina and have experimented with the 
satin stitch foot, producing quite acceptable edges.  How do you all do 
this?  I can buy a new foot, if necessary, for my old Bernina as I am not 
quite ready to buy both the new serger *and* a new sewing machine.

Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 10:29:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 1630 Walking Foot

Dear Kay--I love a serger, and have used one for more than 10 years.  I'm 
going to upgrade to something more modern and user-friendly after getting 
acquainted with the newer models.  I am more a home sewer than a quilter, 
so I use my serger for all seams and edges of my blouses and slacks, etc.
It is super-fast and knife-cuts the edges, so everything is tidied up as 
you construct the garment.  The newer sergers do stitches that my 
old machine doesn't do.  Some quilters construct their blocks by using 
their sergers, but I've not done that yet.  It's ideal for 
strip-piecing.  Not everyone NEEDS a serger, and the money, which is 
considerable, might be better spent elsewhere.  I know several people who 
have never used their sergers, having purchased them just because they 
got a good deal or thought they ought to have one.  So take some time to 
make that commitment--then you'll know what you really want.

Date: Sat, 1 Apr 95 11:45:57 -0800
Subject: Making cloth napkins

I have a serger and I love it.  True, it will produce a neat rolled
edge for a napkin very quickly.  However, to my mind a better edge is
a narrow hem, such as will be produced by using a narrow hemmer on a
Bernina.  Another way to do a narrow hem, which works better for me,
is just to press up the hem 1/4" twice and stitch.  Yes, it takes
longer than a narrow hemmer (if you can get the narrow hemmer to work)
and a lot longer than a serger, but I've gotten good results.

If you do decide to use the serger rolled hem, here's a trick for
napkins.  Mark the cutting lines on the fabric, but don't cut:  let
the serger do your work for you.   Serge down the cutting lines, doing
the longest lines first.  Serge all edges of the pieces you've cut
before using the serger to cut some more.  This is really fast and

- Anne
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 17:07:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/31/95

I have a 1090 and am just beginning to make  a machine quilt. I do not have
foot 37. I have a bunch of feet, but is there another way, or what other foot
can I use to get a good 1/4 inch seam?
      Thanks,      Diane M.
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 20:02:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Making cloth napkins

>Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:51:08 -0500 (EST)
>Subject: Making cloth napkins
>I am looking forward to getting a new serger--when and if--because I 
>would like to make table napkins for myself and gifts.  I am thinking of 
>the serger as producing a neat, durable edge.  However, is this the best 
>or only way?  I also have an old Bernina and have experimented with the 
>satin stitch foot, producing quite acceptable edges.  How do you all do 
>this?  I can buy a new foot, if necessary, for my old Bernina as I am not 
>quite ready to buy both the new serger *and* a new sewing machine.
>    Myra 
I have only done napkins (and place mats, for that matter) with a serger,
but you are right--the serger does produce a neat, durable edge.  I think
it's the best, although I have not been sewing for that long (5 years) and
sew mostly garments for my children.  Hopefully, you'll hear from someone
who has had good luck with their sewing machine!
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:17:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Making Cloth Napkins

You could also do a "whip and roll" technique with your "old" Bernina sewing
machine, using the open toe, applique or #6 foot.  This technique works best
on light-weight batiste, etc., but will also give satisfactory results on
cottons.  Just zig-zag (length approx. 1 or less, but not satin, width approx
2 or 3) letting the "zig" go on the fabric, and the "zag" go off the right
hand side of the fabric.  Continue in this manner, letting the fabric "roll"
in upon itself.  Looks kind of like a rolled hem!!  I use the serger for most
of my work, but have found this method to work for others in class.  Hope
this helps!!
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 17:07:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 3/31/95

I have a 1090 and am just beginning to make  a machine quilt. I do not have
foot 37. I have a bunch of feet, but is there another way, or what other foot
can I use to get a good 1/4 inch seam?
      Thanks,      Diane M.

Applying a hint from this forum, I use the #1 foot and move my needle 
one place to the right of center - a perfect SCANT 1/4" seam.
Linda P
Date:         Mon, 03 Apr 95 09:39:44 EDT
Subject:      Re: Bernina Digest 4/2/95

Just thought I would interject my $.02 worth re sergers.  I have one and I
really like it (although it is a Babylock).  I had the individual who gave
me my lesson on using it, tell me that my combination of my Bernina 1130
and my serger was the best combination (remembering that was 10 years ago).
I feel the serger falls into the same category as the microwave in the kitchen.
It not absolutely necessary (a Bernina sewing machine is) but it is a
wonderful (though pricey) sewing extra (too pricey to be called a gadget).
It certainly does keep me happy!!
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 18:26:23 PDT
Subject: re:Machine Quilting

I'm also having similar problems machine quilting using my walking foot on 
my new 1630. I am machine quilting a queen size Log Cabin Quilt and some 
of the diagonals sew with no problems and then the next diagonal will have 
problems and I have to rip out and try again.  Any help would be greatly 
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 04:58:29 -0400
Subject: 1/4 foot

To Claudia and Jennifer,

Thanks for the info on the 1/4 inch seam. I always forget about the needle
being able to move. Gues I haven't used it enough in situations that it come
in handy.

Next time I am at the dealers I will see how much the #37 costs, can you give
me an idea? What else does it do, if anything.

Where do you go for your bernina dealer?
I go to Redlands Sewing Center, I am really happy with them there. That is
where my Mom went too.

I just bought an embroidery machine from them and they were very helpful.

Subject: 1/4 Foot
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 8:36:04 -0400 (EDT)


I purchased the #37 foot this weekend at my local dealer.  Her 
retail was $24.99.  She happened to be having a notions sale this 
month and gave me 20% off.  I timed that perfect!  I haven't used 
the foot yet because my Bernina is in the hospital.

Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:01:11 -0400
Subject: Re: 1/4 Foot

Hi, I just checked with my Bernina dealer and the 37 foot is about $35 here
in Tampa. Laura
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:09:21 -0400
Subject: nylon vs. poly invisible thread

I have a Bernina 1630 and posted my "loopy nylon" problem to the Bernina club
early in it's existence before Harriet Hargrave came on board.  Harriet, I
poured through your book for an answer to this problem which I'll describe
below, but found that nothing worked that I tried or that others suggested,
not using any nylon thread including the threads you recommended (YLI and Sew

The only thing that worked for me was switching to the Sulky Polyester
thread.  I know that you worry about Polyester cutting the threads, Harriet,
but I tried breaking the Sew Art thread and breaking the Sulky Poly thread,
and in my crude test they appeared to break with about the same amount of
tension, so I can't see how it could harm the material.  I used Mettler 40/3
thread in the bobbin, and think I even tried the 60/2 thread in the bobbin.

Here's the problem I was experiencing and still am experiencing when doing
free motion quilting with the nylon threads.  As I said, this doesn't happen
at all with the poly invisible thread.  At start up (and yes, I hold both
threads when starting), the top thread tension loosens up temporarily such
that 1/8-1/4 inch loops of top thread appear on the back of the stitching.
 Then the tension will tighten up to the correct amount, then unpredictably
will loosen up again.  I've tried starting up sloooowly, changing top tension
settings by increments to see if that would fix the problem (it didn't).  I've
 tried puting the spool on the holder on top of the machine, threading and
not threading it through the little loop, taking it up from a separate holder
then threading through the little loop, and doing the latter but with a
little nylon netting over the thread.  I also tried the big quilting foot
(didn't like it), and the darning foot (much better).

If there's anything one of you experts (like Harriet) could suggest to solve
this problem, I'd love to hear it as I've got millions of yards of nylon
thread, and the polyester thread is much more expensive.  

Also, I haven't gotten the walking foot, but wonder if one can do the
embroidery stitches on the 1630 using the new walking foot.  I find using
free-motion stitching works as well as the walking foot for me in most cases,
but I'd like to use the embroidery stitches to quilt with including designs I
make myself.  Using the regular foot, I find it puckers, so am hoping that I
can do embroidery with the walking foot.  If it works, are there any
limitations on size?

Eager to know the answers.

Barb M
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 08:45:40 -0700
Subject: Cut 'n Sew

Hi everyone!

Just sitting here finishing up a scrub jacket for someone at work and 
realized that I haven't seen this handy-dandy little attachment for us 
non-serger owners mentioned since I've been a subscriber to this list.

Does anyone else use one?  Any tips, secrets??

Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 21:33:18 -0400
Subject: Re: loopy thread

Re: Barb McKie's problem with invisible thread, I would suggest using your
thread in a thread stand with the nylon net over it. I have always used it on
a thread stand with the 830 and 1530 and have had no problem with ANY of the
invisible threads. If that doesn't work, I have no answer other than to stick
to the Sulky and give your invisible thread away. 

Mary M
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 07:18:06 -0400
Subject: Re: 1/4 Foot

Laura is your dealer Couture Fabrics?  I am going to teach there in May.
Maybe I will see you there. Hope so. It is a wonderful fabric store....they
have dream goods. Pat R
Subject: Cut 'n Sew
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 8:39:53 -0400 (EDT)

    Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 08:45:40 -0700

    Hi everyone!

    Just sitting here finishing up a scrub jacket for someone at work and 
    realized that I haven't seen this handy-dandy little attachment for us 
    non-serger owners mentioned since I've been a subscriber to this list.

    Does anyone else use one?  Any tips, secrets??



What handy-dandy attachment are you referring to?

Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 12:26:10 -0400
Subject: cut and sew attachment

>Just sitting here finishing up a scrub jacket for someone at work and
>realized that I haven't seen this handy-dandy little attachment for us
>non-serger owners mentioned since I've been a subscriber to this list.
>Does anyone else use one?  Any tips, secrets??

I have one of these attachments and have used it several times, happily. It
is easy to install and makes quick work of finishing seams as you sew. It's
been a few months since I last used it (haven't been doing much garment
making recently)...if I remember correctly, the instructions that came with
the foot (_why_ does Bernina write such sketchy/poor explanations for their
feet?) only discuss using one stitch to make the seam. I have used several
of the possible seam stitches available on my 1090, all with complete

This is an expensive attachment...but cheaper than a serger (which, I know,
it doesn't completely replace...but does a good engough substitution job
for me:).

Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 02:26:03 -0400
Subject: 1/4 foot

Wow, thank-you everyone for the help with the 1/4 seam!! Now to just find

I met the people at Mel's at the Creative Festival in Feb at Anaheim. They
seemed very nice. 

Nice to get a price range, some dealers, even mine, are very overpriced.

We need more Bernina Dealers!!!!

Hey, I saw a Bernina ad in the Sunday paper, called the Parade?  That was a

Happy Sewing,

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:26:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/6/95

On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Bernina wrote:

> Nice to get a price range, some dealers, even mine, are very overpriced.
> We need more Bernina Dealers!!!!

  I certainly agree - the price is way out of line with other good
machines, and I think Bernina needs to pull in the reins a little - it
seems that some of their US dealers are unaware of/disinterested in what
the potential *buyer* of a fine sewing machine _can actually afford_.  I
*actually *stood *there *and *listened as the owner of a local dealership
talked to a potential customer as if she were a peasant with a petition,
when the woman said something like "I see that you have the list price
here, and what discount do you offer?" The store owner was *insulting -
she acted as if the customer had a lot of nerve, even suggesting that you
don't always get the top dollar for something you sell!  That was all I
needed to know about that store - I can get fabric anywhere, and a new
sewing machine from that discount place in New Jersey.  :^)

Elaine J
who treats a sewing machine as if it were a fine domestic tool, not a 
proof of status...
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:36:49 -0500
Subject: dealers

i agree with Elaine's comments about dealers and prices for
Berninas.  I recently purchased a 1630 ( I love it!) at an incredible price
at a show.  I had scouted the market for about a year before I bought it -
the range of prices was amazing.  I asked for information about sales and
made it clear I wasn't going to pay list price and many of dealers actually
offered to come down on their prices! I think you have to do a little
horsetrading to get what you want for the amount you want to spend.

Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 09:25:32 EST
Subject: RE: Making cloth napkins

I've made a pretty hem using the rolled hem foot and a wing needle.
I think, it's been a while, I set a zigzag over the roll and the 
wing needle makes a nice decorative hole in the fabric.

Also, check out the Decorative Maching sewing book from Singer.
Lots of pretty ideas for hems. Just use your bernina feet instead
of Singer feet! ;-)

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 22:46:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/7/95


Good news.  I finally found a great dealer to give me some lessons , and that
I could make a real appointment to sit down with.  she is doing the same
thing with someone who bought a machine in NH>  I guess the dealer was giving
the run around.  My dealer went under.A great plug for Bernina Bob and Helen
Jane, Bernina Sewing Centre Rowley Plaza, Rowley, Ma.
Go------They sold me a serger years ago which is also from Bernina, Sat me dow
n with instant lessons and have not regretted it since.
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 09:13:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/7/95

Do me a favor and say hello to Helen Jane and BB , I have taught in their
store and they are real good folks!!!!!!! I think they really care about
thier customers and love the product. Tell them I hope to see them at BU this
year. Pat R
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:01:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Making Cloth Napkins

Hi Karen:  Thanks for the tip on the rolled hem foot and a winged 
needle.  I'd had a suggestion re the foot, but didn't know about the 
winged needle.  I think, because of the many comments about the rolled 
hem foot, a purchase is in order.  Also, I'll check on the Singer book 
on decorative machine sewing for ideas.  Thanks for the reply.
Date: 08 Apr 95 13:37:37 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/7/95

What discount house in New Jersey?  Always interested in a deal, and always
upgrading!          Carol
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 10:22:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/7/95

Look out for deals that are too good to be true....Remember that you are
buying service and education when you buy a machine. If you are talking about
the store I think you are, you may get SHORT CHANGED !!!!!! A sewing machine
in a box is not the same as one from a trained professional that has been
sewn in.Pat R
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 18:46:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Dealers

Well, gang..thanks to you all and your suggestions &waonderful E-Mails &
comments (especially about my dealer from You-know-where), I did it. I just
returned from the Lancaster show where I purchased a 1260. I am thrilled,
and got a wonderful price! The people were wonderful (Mennonite), and I am
going to go back out for a whole day class with them. (I live in in
Pittsburgh about 4 hours away, but my SIL lives 30 minutes, so I will make a
weekend out of it.) Thanks to you all!!!! And wish me luck as I go
downsatirs to unpack &play with my 'new' baby!

Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/7/95
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 9:01:29 -0400 (EDT)


I received the brochure about heavy threads.  Thank you, thank 
you, thank you!!!  I need all the help I can get.

Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:16:47 -0400
Subject: Gathering

I made up two terrific dresses this weekend on my Bernina - they are
gorgeous!  I wanted to share a little tip that came on the pattern....

If you need to do lots of gathers, zigzag over buttonhole twist - 2 lines of
it.  The first at 3/8 of an inch and the second at 3/4 of an inch.  Draw it
up, secure and pin it, then sew at 5/8 of inch.  Pull out the button hole
twist and pull out the showing line of zigzag by grabbing the bobbin thread
and pulling.  No breaking thread and beautiful gathers every time.  I didn't
have buttonhole twist, so I used dental floss.  Easy as pie.

Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 07:28:04 -0400
Subject: 1030 available

I know someone who has a 4-year old Bernina 1030 for sale in the Chicago
area. If interested, e-mail me.

Mary M
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:30:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/7/95

I'd also like the name of the discount house.  I'd like to be able to make an
informed comparison.  I'm definately willing to pay for experience, help, and
someone locally.  However, like everything else, these things do not have
infinite worth.
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:17:45 -0400
Subject: Decorative Thread Help

Hi all!

I'm planning on doing a Sunbonnet Sue quilt for my goddaughter.  I'm using
Eleanor Burn's book on how to do the Sue's.  I need suggestions on what kind
of thread I can use to outline/applique the Sue's.  I want to do a "blanket
stitch" with some heavier thread so it will show up nice.  I have a 1031 and
need someone to tell me how to do it :-D.

Piece in peace,
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:29:51 -0400
Subject: Machine comparisons...

Howdy all

You may have come across several 'what sewing machine to by' threads on
Usenet lately.  While I was playing with a Kenmore (made by Janome but
apparently not as well made as the 'mother' brand), I realized how good my
Bernina is.

shush... I guess I can gloat here (not PC on Usenet), since I'm part of the
choir... :)

The one feature that impresses me most of Bernina so far is that for most of
their machines, you get the same greatfeatures: same feed dogs (excluding
Bernettes), same stitch forming mechanism, thread pick up, etc.  Look at the
Pfaff Hobbymatics (lower/mid range) and the feed system is not as good as
for top models.  Same thing with NewHome.  Viking has an all-across the
board feed system (although I prefer Bernina's; I think it's the depth of
the 'teeth' on Ninas dog that does it) but look at their 200 series and the
thread pick-up well, exercises some vacuum (if you know what I mean): it's
just a bent wire, which lets go of the thread rather easily..  

BTW, while Pfaff's have a dual feed built in (their feed, unassisted, is not
quite as good as a Nina's) it is not as 'even' a feed as a Nina-with-walking
foot.  Compare the two on a slinky silk or velvet and you'll 'feel' the
difference.  My dealer had a 'less-than-elegant' way of describing the Pfaff
dual feed (it needs it because it doesn't feed well enough on its own...).
While I may phrase that more diplomatically, I have to agree after testing it.

Ninas also have the same quality  pressed Aluminum body on all models (even
on Bernettes), which makes the machines more stable.  Have you tried the
Vikings lately, namely models 200's to 500?  That plastic body does not
stabilize the machine. I also prefer the 'positive feedback' of the Nina
computer interface (1080-1260), with a button that gives tactile feedback
and a LED for confirmation.  On a Viking, you have to read the little
screen.  (BTW, you can tell that I'm not to hot on the 1530/1630 interface...)

(No, I am not a Nina dealer. Although if I ever sold sewing machines, I
think they would have to be Ninas)

Shameless goating ends.   :)))

I know you don't need encouragement but...


PS:  I tested foot #8 last night (after the baby finally went to sleep).
Boy, it works wonders.  8 layers of treated canvas (for totes), size 12
UNIVERSAL (not even denim) needle and the thing just plowed through it like
butter (shhhh... even at full speed), all while doing the Stitching Two-Step
(triple straight stitch).  And that stitching came out perfectly balanced!
That's what I mean by good  feed dog...

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:35:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Machine Comparison...

Dear Sylvain,

      I really agree with you in everything you said, not because I sell 
Berninas, but because it is true.  I have a 1230 and am in love with that 
machine. The 1260 is really the same machine with a few modifications.  I 
think it is the very best Bernina has done so far because of the 
simplicity of use and teaching it to someone.

                                    Have a Happy Easter,
Subject: Machine Comparison...
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 8:58:23 -0400 (EDT)


What is the #8 foot?  I am going to be stitching through crazy 
patch (with tapestry, velvets, etc) that is going to be stitch 
over a very heavy denim jacket that is lined and batted.  I have 
been wondering about what needle/foot to use.

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:50:52 -0400
Subject: Berninas at good prices

Have been reading the posts re:  Berninas at good prices ... and though I
know that mail order precludes lessions from that dealer ...  sometimes the
prices can't be beaten.  We have referred quilters to a dealer who is not
only very knowledgable ... he has a huge stock of Berninas and (I believe) an
active trade-in/upgrade business.  He sends via UPS and  is knowledgable and
helpful.  We have referred quite a number of people, and all who have bought
from the Yardgoods Center have been quite satisfied.  SO... for what it's

Ken Clodek
The Yardgoods Center
Downtown Shopping Center
Waterville, ME   04901   Phone:  207 872-5403

By all means, tell him that Addy Harkavy in Cape Elilzabeth (of PineTree
Quiltworks) recommended you.  Neither PineTree nor  I have any business
dealings with The Yardgoods Center ... they have just been a very good and
reliable Bernina dealer.

Hope this helps any on a quest for a Bernina.
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 09:34:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Decorative Thread Help

Hi Pat,

You said you wanted to do a blanket stitch around the applique on a S. Sue
quilt, here is what I did:   I was using an 830 Bernina and I used black duel
duty in the bobbin and 2 strands of light weight embroidery thread on the
top.  I believe the embroidery thread was 50/2, I bought it my Bernina
dealership store.  The two strands I put thru the tension discs and thread
guides as if it was really only one thread and I threaded the two strands
thru the needle.  Needle size I did play with alittle.  Turned out to me
80/12, my standard all purpose size!  I qalso set the machine to do a small
blind hem but you might have a better stitch as I do now on my 1530!  

Let us know how this worked!  I would not be afraid to also ask my Bernina
dealer what they recommend and then take that info and experiment!

Good Luck!!

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:10:21 -0400
Subject: even feed

I chose to disagree with Silvain. I have a Bernina 1630, and I have owned
several other machines, including a Pfaff 1471 that I used for years, and
still have. When I decided to buy a top of the line machine, I was having
problems deciding between the Bernina 1630 and the Pfaff. As a quilter I was
using the even feed system constantly. I don't straight line quilt, but I use
the feed whenever I have to sew heavy layers together (like putting on a
binding). I rarely used the machine without the even feed foot, most presser
feet have a slot that allows it's use. After talking to many of my friends,
who sew and quilt extensively, I decided to buy a Bernina 1630, because I am
not afraid of a rotary hook (which seems to be the biggest problem for people
moving between the 1530 and the 1630), and I already had a Pfaff I could use
just for the even feed. When I started using the Bernina, one of the first
things I did was put on a binding. I was immediately struck that the two
layers were not being evenly fed, even though I had pinned it. I looked at
the Bernina even feed foot this weekend and decided not to buy it for the
following reasons:1) I have gotten used to using special feet, and if you
have the even feed foot installed you can't use a special foot such as the
#10, or the #37 (which really helps when putting a binding on). 2) I had
heard that the back of the foot gets hung up when crossing seams, and I had
this problem in the shop. 3) The foot took me 20 minutes to install. Even
once I figured out the trick I found it annoying. I find that if an
adjustment to my machine takes too much effort or time I don't bother doing
it sometimes. I think it takes less time to set up my Pfaff. I decided that
at this point the $85 for the foot, plus the $12 to do the modifications
Harriet suggests, is just not worth it. Although it is very possible that I
will change my mind if I get one for Mother's Day. Regarding the slipping on
silkies, I believe that this is where sergers excel. They have great big
feet. I have been making my daughter and her friend beautiful satin outfits
for a few years. 

Although I truly love my Bernina I recognise that the various machine brands
all have their strengths and weaknesses, and luckily we live in an economy
that allows us to have a delightful buffet of choices. My advise to anyone
buying a new machine would be the following:
1. Try to get the highest quality machine that you can in whatever brand you
choose. I have noticed that Bernina's seem to keep their value over really
long periods of time, like 30 years. Wouldn't it be nice if cars did that? On
the other hand, I fully and freely admit that I did not need the top of the
line, a 1260 would have been fine, but this is what I chose to have for my
"status" purchase. It's nice to have a fine object at least once in life, a
1630 is definately cheaper that any luxury car, and more useful to me than a
fur or jewelry. I can go embroider really wide strips on vests to show off my
wide feed system.
2. If your dealer carries more than one brand, ask if you could switch the
machines if you were unhappy. This allowed me to buy my Bernina, knowing I
could switch to the Pfaff if necessary.
3. Consider the cost of accessories. Bernina feet are notoriously expensive.
Pfaff's are not. I have experienced the difference in quality, and in some
cases I think it is worth it. But I still remember when I bought 6 Pfaff feet
frivolously just to play with making fringes and pintucks, and only spent
$30. I am trying to outfit my Bernina by buying one foot a month. It does
give my husband something he can buy my for birthdays and anniversary's. (He
was going to buy me a foot for my birthday but sent me instead. I shouldn't
have gone, he probably would have bought the walking foot if left to his own
4. Buy from a "nice" dealer. I am so saddened by hearing that some of you
gave your business to dealers who treated you as if they were doing you a
favor by taking your money.

Just my 50 cents worth. I've been quiet for a few weeks, I felt like
babbling. By the way, I am looking for sayings insulting housework, like
"What good is housework? You clean your bathrooms and six months later you
have to start all over again." 
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 17:58:27 -0700
Subject: This is a Dealer??

I stopped by a local Bernina dealer this evening to finally pick up a 
straight stitch plate for my 1090.  They had two models labeled for the 
930 and 1260.  I asked the woman if the one for the 1260 would fit the 
1090--she didn't know.  I could tell it would fit just by looking at it 
and asked her to try it on the 1090 they had there. 

She didn't have a CLUE about how to take off the plate!!  I finally 
talked her through it and said something about how she musn't clean her 
machine very often.  She said she NEVER takes off the plate to clean it.
She brings it in to have it cleaned and adjusted every few months.  She 
told me that if I clean the machine out I will "screw it up"--that 
obviously Berninas are very sensitive pieces of equipment because they 
need adjusting so often!!

When I think of her poor, abused 'Nina I could just cry. :(  Is there a 
rescue league for them??  So they could go and live with someone who 
will care for them properly?

Of course the plate fits fine and works beautifully!! My house may be a 
pig sty but my 'Nina is immaculate!(and has never needed "adjusting").
And this woman is supposed to inform potential buyers about our babies!!

Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:34:02 -0400
Subject: Dealers

Time for me to add my $.02 worth about buying a Bernina.  If I had it to do
again, I'd go through mail order and save myself a bundle.  If you've been
sewing for any time at all, the lessons are just not very helpful at all.
 For my more than two grand I got ONE 2 hour class, mainly on how to use the
button hole foot.  I expected a series of classes and that isn't what they
offer.  :(

So, buy the machine, buy the $40 foot book that tells you what all the feet
can do and then do some practice.  I'm assuming, of course, that this Bernina
is an upgrade, not a first machine.

Enjoy.  Kelly
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:43:00 -0400
Subject: Re: This is a Dealer??

What a wonderful laugh you must have had on the way home!!!!

Of course there is a 'Nina Rescue League......US!!!!  We will just have to
sneak into her house and rescue the poor baby and give it the TLC it
deserves.  Plus we have the advantage of being able to spirit the baby out of
the county if necessary!!!!

Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:25:30 -0400
Subject: Bernina memory

I hope someone can help me use the memory on my 1230 - I've never really had
a need to use it except for writing, but now I want to try something I saw in
a book and don't know how. The technique was to set the stitch length to 2.75
for machine quilting and then program the zigzag stitch to 0 width and .5mm
length to tie off. My question is if this is possible on my machine and if
so, how do I make it work? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sue M.
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 11:13:28 cdt
Subject: #8 foot

          Beth and all,

          I was making roll-up, fabric piecing totes-- five layers of
          fleece and several layers of fabric, one of them pieced (for
          the cover).  Had difficulty with my 830 and 001 foot, so off
          to the B store for advice.  She suggested the #8 foot--
          which is called the Jeans foot-- and it worked in the store
          so I bought one.

          Got home and tried to use it with the next tote and couldn't
          get anywhere.  Discovered after much experimenting that it
          works better with a regular 80 needle than with a  jeans
          needle or other kind.

          Don't know why, but it got the job done.  This thing was so
          fat it hardly went under the pressure foot.

          Just my $.02.  :->

Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:35:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/12/95

>Subject: Machine Comparison...
>What is the #8 foot?  I am going to be stitching through crazy 
>patch (with tapestry, velvets, etc) that is going to be stitch 
>over a very heavy denim jacket that is lined and batted.  I have 
>been wondering about what needle/foot to use.


#8 is the 'jeans' foot.  Straight stitch only.  It actually does a nifty
trick: the back of the hole in the foot is forward enough that it forces the
needle to bend slightly forward, giving it better penetration power against
the 'oncoming' fabric, especially when sewing over 'lumps' (like cross-seams
and hems).  It works!

>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:10:21 -0400
>Subject: even feed

I was interested to read your reply.

>I chose to disagree with Silvain. I have a Bernina 1630, and I have owned
>several other machines, including a Pfaff 1471 that I used for years, and
>still have. When I decided to buy a top of the line machine, I was having
>problems deciding between the Bernina 1630 and the Pfaff.

You realise the 1630 behaves differently from other Ninas.  It's feed dog is
wider and more distant (on the sides) from the needle for regular sewing.  I
haven't played with the 1630 much (can't afford one...) but comparing a
1080-1530 with a 1470-series pfaff, I have had better results with a Nina feed.

Actually, being able to 'engage' dual feed on any machine 'a la pfaff' would
certainly be very convenient, especially when all you need is 'a little
better feed'.

I do respect your differeing. I think that's what makes such a forum
interesting.  My experience is that 'unassisted' feed is better on my 1230
than on any Praff I've tried.  The Pfaff then has the advantage of having a
'ready-to-jump-in' feed assistance.  But I have found the Nina walking foot
to do better on slinky fabrics than the dual feed.   (I can't swear for
quilting because I still stand on the threshold)

> After talking to many of my friends,
>who sew and quilt extensively, I decided to buy a Bernina 1630, because I am
>not afraid of a rotary hook (which seems to be the biggest problem for people
>moving between the 1530 and the 1630),

Did you know that Pfaff's rotary hook comes from their industrial machines
and I've heard from a technician that it's actually considered by some
better than Bernina's rotary hook (1630)?

 >  I looked at
>the Bernina even feed foot this weekend and decided not to buy it for the
>following reasons:1) I have gotten used to using special feet, and if you
>have the even feed foot installed you can't use a special foot such as the
>#10, or the #37 (which really helps when putting a binding on).

That's definitely a concern.

> 2) I had
>heard that the back of the foot gets hung up when crossing seams, and I had
>this problem in the shop.

I use my machine mostly for clothing/home dec/special projects (totes, etc)
and that's definitely not a prolem for me, to the contrary.

 3) The foot took me 20 minutes to install. 

Not to sound nasty, make that 20 seconds (actually less) for me.  There is a
'hang' to it, though :)

> I decided that
>at this point the $85 for the foot, 

My dealer sells it for 68$ (1630).  It's 55-60$ for 1080-1530)

> Regarding the slipping on
>silkies, I believe that this is where sergers excel. They have great big
>feet. I have been making my daughter and her friend beautiful satin outfits
>for a few years. 

Do you sew them solely on the serger?   I sew everything on the sewing
machine first (I have a big thing for clothes that last...)

I agree with the housework slogans.  HouseYeark is more like it for me :)

Enjoy your 1630 (sigh of envy...)  :)

Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 10:49:48 MDT
Subject: even feed

After almost a month of looking and comparing, I bought my first
Bernina two days ago. I had wanted a machine to quilt and applique,
as well as begin to try more fancy things. I had a difficult time
deciding if the built in differential feed on the Pfaff's was
better than having to add a walking foot to the Berninas. The dealers
were helpful, and let me try a realistic quilt "sandwich", including
typical fabrics and batting. While both Pfaff 1730 and Bernina 1530
handled it well, I found the Bernina to have a better "feel"  --
giving me the impression that the Bernina could handle very thick
fabrics better than the Pfaff. I had NEVER had this quality of 
machine before, so I had no preferences one way or another. The 
additional step of attaching the foot to the Bernina did not
present a problem.  In addition, after telling the Bernina dealer
I was considering the Pfaff, the dealer included the walking
foot at no extra charge. 
Not only am I new to Berninas, I am also new to the internet
and WWW.  I have come to the conclusion that I am addicted to both.
I will anxiously await my Bernina e-mail to learn all the nifty
tricks experienced users know.
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:20:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Decorative Thread Help

Debbie ----    you have the wrong person .......I would be the last person on
this earth to be doing old SBS . I will enjoy trying the technique. Thank
You. Pat Ro
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:43:01 EST
Subject: Is this a dealer?

My goodness!
The very first thing we did in my first bernina class was to take
the baby apart! 
take the needle out
take the throat plate off
take the bobbin out
take the hook thing out that holds the bobbin case
clean and oil
raise and lower the dogs
put it back together

Then we learned how to thread it.

I just can't imagine a dealer not knowing that!
give *me* her machine!

Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 11:30:29 EST
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/12/95

I'll be glad to do my bit for 
SOBS -- Sisterhood of Bernina Safety. I feel so much better. Now all we need
is an anthem.

============bye for now======================
Mary Beth G 

Hey, we can't leave out Sylvain!!!

SaBoBS (?)= Sister and Brotherhood of Bernina Safety

Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:01:19 MST
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/12/95

I can relate well to misused Berninas...I was in a class last year and
one woman was having a terrible time with her 1530...I was trying to give
her a hand when I suggested she remove the throat plate and get rid of
any little piece of lit that might be stuck...she looked at me like I
was from another planet.  She had owned the machine for several months
and had never, no never, cleaned out the lit or applied that one little
drop of I had at her machine (mentally thinking really ugly
thoughts) and got the compacted lit out, gave it a drop of oil, ran
the machine for a few secs and away it went like new..(whoops she never
cleaned out the lint not lit)....I was absolutely astounded that anyone
would neglect this very basic maintenance and went home thinking murderous
thoughts something along the lines of how could anyone be so dumb and
how come such incompetents were able to afford these wonderful machines
...wish there had been a Bernina Rescue Squad handy....
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 16:57:00 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/12/95

If a sewer doesn't get the proper classes to show her how to do the
maintenance and the sewer is very timid about getting inside her machine (oh
you know, if you touch anything inside you will break it or "not mechanically
inclined") then it is hard to start doing those technical/mechanical things. 
My $.02 these neglecting sewers may not have been taught how to treat the
machine correctly.   Have a little bit of compassion and show them how to do
it (and sounds like you have been doing that).   Do keep in mind some people
are buying sewing machines or other appliances and are pertified to have to
do any mechanical work on the machine.

Would you believe some people don't touch computers still cause they are
afraid they'll do something wrong and break it or ruin the data.   My MIL
does not have a VCR and panics when she babysits and the kids want to watch
"Lion King", but can take a sewing machine apart, fix anything on it, and put
it back together.

When spring arrives and lilacs blow I'm not compelled to shovel snow.. . .
So I am glad the seasons through, For what I do not have to do.
CONTENTMENT / Arthur Guiterman                    
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:08:42 MST
Subject: Misused Berninas = apology

I am sorry if I offended anyone with my post concerning the 1530 and
lint removal...the problem with email is that tone of voice, inflection,
are missing and so, what I meant to be an amusing story didn't come out
that way...I am not quite as heartless as I must have sounded.  But I
will add that I do find it strange that anyone whether they buy a coffeemaker
or a sewing machine does not at least read the operator's manual..                                                              of town)...

What can I say...sorry
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 23:34:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/15/95

For all you lint pickers, thank you.  You gave me a million!  Don't sew very
much on the Bernina lately, but checked and pulled the machine apart, thank
you , thank you to Heloise.... Waiting for some lessons next month.  If I
don't find the manual and oil I am going replace it.  Lots of fabrics.  Want
to get to work on Ms. NINA>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 12:35:15 -0400
Subject: Whether to Upgrade 1530 to 1630?

Hi Everyone! Happy Easter/Passover/Spring Holiday!

I bought a 1530 in late December &I have a year to upgrade, if I want to. (I
still have my 1090, (much to my husband's chagrin), after reading so many
people's messages that they use their older models as their workhorse
machines, I kept it.)

I want to machine applique, machine quilt, and learn to use the fantasy
stitches. I am curious about the wider stitch width on the 1630 and its
ability to sew in multiple directions. 

Anyway, does it makes sense to upgrade my 1530 to the 1630? The upgrade would
cost about $600, at least today. Plus, it would also mean re-purchasing many
of the extra feet, bobbins, etc, that I have for my 1090/1530; plus
purchasing a staight stitch plate. Is it worth it?

I am unhappy that Bernina is apparently not interested in making the Designer
Software available for the Mac. I feel that Bernina is missing a large
potential market with the Mac users.

Many thanks,
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 13:00:25 -0600
Subject: tension

i have a bernina 1000, and have a hard time keeping a good tension.
Is there a certain thread you recommend? I use metler thread.
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 01:21:12 -0400
Subject: Thanks to my 'Nina!

Tonight I realized I had my block of the month due Tuesday and I hadn't done
ANYTHING on it other than pick out a possible fabric.  ACK.  Simple applique
job but my hand work time is tied up in a hand quilting job.

Nina to the rescue.  Thanks to my wonderful 1260, I invisibly machine
appliqued that tulip design in no time (well, compared to my hand applique
anyway).  I figure it may raise a few eye brows (because I am a PRO applique
person in our guild) but then again, the choice was no block from me! 

The results were lovely.  Don't know if I "did it by the book" but I used
invisible thread on top, matching thread below and the button hole stitch (L)
mirrored so I could go clockwise.  Cool.  Glued freezer paper inside.  

What a breeze.  
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/12/95
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:46:49 -0400 (EDT)

Thanks for the info!

Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 12:50:08 -0400
Subject: new feet for 1630

The 1630 only has a few feet that are different from the rest of the machines
(that don't come with it in the first place), and not all are necessary. The
rotary foot seems to be mainly a convenience. The #10 edge foot is great, the
#12 foot sort of replaces both the #12 and the #21. Those are the only feet I
have bought that are wider. The hemming, cording and pintuck foot have not
been made wider yet. The other thing you should be aware of is that the
bobbins are smaller, but more expensive (supposedly more holes to cut). So
you will lose your stash of bobbins. 

Also, I am reading Jan Saunder's "A Step By Step Guide To Your Bernina". It
only covers up to the 1230, but is very interesting and tells you how to do
stuff like use the buttonhole foot to stitch in the ditch.

I am soooo happy my family all went back to school and work today.
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:44:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 

I have a chance to buy a Bernina 1030 for what I think is a good price.  Is
this a good machine?  I know that I like the knee lifter on the Berninas and
this machine has that feature.   Can anyone tell me if this machine has the
buttonhole stitch that looks so nice when you are appliquing something down?
 Also what is an extension table?  Is that a matching part that clamps onto
and extends your machine sewing/working area?  The machine is 4 years old.
 Please let me know if you have had good experiences with this model.  I will
be using this machine primarily to do machine quilting and piecing.  I really
don't sew clothing.
Thank you!
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:18:46 -0400
Subject: Re: requested funny housework sayings

I know that men say they help with housework:
Like lifting their legs as you vacuum around the sofa!

I will take housework seriously when men invent a riding vacuum cleaner!

I know that men help--they change the oil in the car--what this has to be
done every 10,000-15,000 miles and dinner needs to be cooked every night?  Go
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:21:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Whether to Upgrade 1530 to 1630

I agree about the lack of interest in marketing products for the MAC market.
I am also looking at a Viking--they also do not have software for the +1 for
the MAC. But remember if you have a MAC you can always buy software to run
any DOS products....this is what I do and I can still use my beloved (almost
as much as my Bernina) MAC!  
Date: 17 Apr 95 23:03:27 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/16/95

In regards to oiling the machine, my dealer told me the oil that came with my
1630 was the wrong kind and I should dump my bottle and have the technition
refill it; but, when I took it in the technition told me she hadn't heard
anything about it.  Anybody else hear anything about this?
Subject: Nancy's Notions
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:49:18 EDT

I am looking for the phone number of Nancy's Notions:
We had a demo of techniques the other night at quilt guild and one of our
members said she bought her extension table (plexiglass) from Nancy's
Notions: the tables are purchased for specific machines.

Sounds like just the thing I need for a larger work surface when I am
machine quilting the large quilts! If anyone can help me out, please email
me directly:

Thanks to all who responded re: bobbin case questions. I have not ventured
in the experiments in adjusting the tension on the extra case, but I will
once I settle on this extension table, and find time to machine quilt my
nephew's double irish chain quilt! Thanks....Theresa G
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 08:04:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Oil for the Bernina 1630

To Carol C reguarding oil for 1630

I've been told several times that the oil for the 1630 is very light 
weight compared to the other machine oils.  If the wrong oil is used in 
the 1630 then in greatly affects the tension.  When I was having some 
problems with my 1630, I was asked if I was using the oil that came with 
it, the light one.  Apparently they had used the wrong one in the shop on 
one of the machines, then used the correct one and saw a dramatic 
difference in how the machine functioned.

Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:52:00 -0400
Subject: Re: 1530 to 1630 Upgrade

I wish it were that simple, to just buy the software, or SoftWindows, so that
we can run the Bernina Design Software on the Mac. Unfortunately, I've heard
that there is a hardware hookup problem--ie., it needs a parallel port, which
I've heard that you can get a connector for (don't know where), but worse,
that the software will only run through a parallel port. Our Mac experts in
our Mac club says that we can't work around that problem. Bernina got us good
on this one. :-(
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:52:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest

I believe that the lowest Bernina model with the "buttonhole" stitch for
applique is the 1090 (the 1080 probabl;y has it, now, too).
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:35:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Nancy's Notions

Phone number for Nancy's Notions is:

Nice folks. :)

Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:23:21 -0400
Subject: Re: 1530 to 1630 Upgrade

>I wish it were that simple, to just buy the software, or SoftWindows, so that
>we can run the Bernina Design Software on the Mac. Unfortunately, I've heard
>that there is a hardware hookup problem--ie., it needs a parallel port, which
>I've heard that you can get a connector for (don't know where),

Unfortunately... the mac doesn't have a parallel port and most likely never
will.  We have used Buffalo Boxes to convert information between parallel
and serial ports for one of our government contracts. However, that is a
$500 solution... to costly IMHO to even consider!

Just another $.02
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:44:47 -0400
Subject: plexiglass platform

I've seen these in both Nancy's Notions and Clotidle(is there an "h"
somewhere in her name?). However, they didn't look too much bigger to me
than the standard Bernina add-on flat bed platform. The only reason I'm
interested in a large flat sewing surface is for machine quilting. I just
assumed I would have to 
bite the bullet and buy a cabinet that I could drop the machine down into
for a flat surface. I'm rambling--the question is: is the plexiglass
platform large enough to support the weight of a quilt for machine
Julia S
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:13:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina DIgest

SUE, I am hoping you can help me.  I am trying to locate the Bernina 
discount place in New Jersey that someone referred to at one time.  I am 
in the market for a  1260 and obviously want a good deal.  Do you know
 what I am talking about or did I just dream this one?  TIA Mary M
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:40:44 -0400
Subject: breaking needles

I remember reading here that breaking a needle will result in needing to have
the machine serviced.  Does anyone have experience with that?  With so many
feet, I sometimes forget what I'm doing and leave that #37 in place when I go
to zigzag.  I did it again last night and broke a needle.  Ggggrrrrr.

Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:45:03 EDT
Subject: Bernina Warehouse

Some one is asking a question about a Bernina discount house in New Jersey.

On Apr 19, 10:23am, Mary Marshall wrote:
> Subject: Re: Houston Quilt Show
> PS I am also trying to locate the discount house for Bernina in New Jersey
someone wrote about at one time, do you know what I am talking about? 

Does anyone know anything about the discount house.  Thanks.

When spring arrives and lilacs blow I'm not compelled to shovel snow.. . .
So I am glad the seasons through, For what I do not have to do.
CONTENTMENT / Arthur Guiterman                    
Subject: Re: 1530 to 1630 Upgrade
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:20:02 -0800

>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:23:21 -0400
>Subject: Re: 1530 to 1630 Upgrade
>>I wish it were that simple, to just buy the software, or SoftWindows, so that
>>we can run the Bernina Design Software on the Mac. Unfortunately, I've heard
>>that there is a hardware hookup problem--ie., it needs a parallel port, which
>>I've heard that you can get a connector for (don't know where),
>Unfortunately... the mac doesn't have a parallel port and most likely never
>will.  We have used Buffalo Boxes to convert information between parallel
>and serial ports for one of our government contracts. However, that is a
>$500 solution... to costly IMHO to even consider!

Hello All,

The Bernina/IBM interface cable (the special cable which connects the 1630
to the computer) plugs into the computer through an RS232 serial, not
parallel,  port.  While Mac's also have serial ports and there are adaptors
which will allow IBM compatible devices (like the Bernina/IBM interface
cable) to be connected to a Mac, it's not that simple.

For example, there's the problem of running IBM/Windows programs on a Mac.
The program SoftWindows (a Mac program) will allow some IBM/Windows
programs to operate on a Mac but I'm not sure if the Bernina Designer
program will work with SoftWindows (I'll have to check).  Even if the
Bernina Designer program does work with SoftWindows, there is a couple of
other considerations.

First, the SoftWindows program should only be installed on a newer Mac such
as a Quadra, Centris or Power Mac models.

Secondly, even when installed on a newer Mac, Soft Windows runs IBM/Windows
programs VERY SLOWLY.

There are ways around these problems but probably the best solution is to
wait until Bernina adapts their IBM interface package to work with a Mac.
I have heard that Bernina (or more likely, the software company which
Bernina hired to do the Bernina Designer program)  is working on a Mac
version which may be out, sometime in the Fall of 1995 (but please don't
hold me to that date - my info is almost a year old).  If anyone is
interested, I could make further inquiries.

Hope this helps.

(Sorry to be so long winded but this stuff really can get complicated.)

Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 20:44:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Breaking Needles

Dear Kelly,

I have broken at least 10 needles in a long history of sewing with 
my Bernina (since 1975), and have never had to have the machine serviced 
because of having broken the needle.  Did I miss something here?

Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:16:23 -0400
Subject: Re: plexiglass platform

I have seen the plexiglass platform to fit the Bernina.  It is real sturdy
and is quite a bit larger than the one that comes with the machine.  It has
legs (2, I think) to support the weight and I can't see any problem with
using it for machine quilting.  CharQuilt


Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:35:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: plexiglass platform

I have one of these platforms and I really like it. It's great for 
piecing and regular sewing and it has the added attraction of providing a 
place underneath where you can stick stuff like scissors and still see 
them. However, it is not great for machine quilting. I find that the 
quilt gets hung up on the front edge. If you have some kind of table that 
has a sewing machine hole, that will work much better. When I am machine 
quilting in my little sewing table (purchased with S&H Green stamps 25 
years ago, no comments on my age, please), I butt it up against another 
table to catch the extra weight behind the quilt and lower my ironing 
board to the same level and put it next to me to hold the other side of 
the quilt. I would like to be able to put something right in front of the 
machine also, but that's where I have to sit. :)

Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:44:10 -0400
Subject: Re:Using the MAC w/1630

I am going to check into this. It seems to me that about 9 years ago when I
bought a little MAC SE that I used an IBM printer and bought a little box
(because the printer was parallel). Let me do some serious reading, etc.
about this. I have a Bernina 1230 but am getting a Viking +1 and need to use
IBM software with it...they also do not acknowledge MAC users!!!!
Subject: Re: Breaking Needles
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:37:10 PDT

Kelly wrote;

        >With so many feet, I sometimes forget what I'm doing and 
        leave that #37 in place when I go to zigzag.  I did it 
        again last night and broke a needle.  Ggggrrrrr.<

Oh I know this one well...!!! ;0}  So, I had my DH take a 5/8 inch
dowel about 3+ inches long and drill a spindle hole in the middle.
I painted one end red and the other end blue.  When I need to change
my tension I put this dowel on my second thread spindle with the
blue side up.  When I use the #37 foot I change to the straight stitch
plate and put the dowel on the spindle with the red end up.  This will
catch your eye, especially when you've been away from the machine for
a while and not paid attention to how you left it.

Hope this helps you folks too.

Jean P
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:51:22 -0400
Subject: The MAC, Windows and market share...


However unfortunate, it should come to no surprise that the software put out
by/for sewing machine co's comes on the Windows platform.  That's economics.
The Mac is only around 10% of the pc market.  That makes the Windows
platform much more attractive (and lucrative) for the publisher.

As for Softwindows on the (newer) macs, guess what... Apple computer is
being less than straightforward (or candid, or maybe honest?) about the
software:  it runs Windows in Standard mode, which is a limitation of the
80286 processor.  Oh yes,  Apple claims that the power PC runs faster than a
Pentium (if you buy all new, recompiled Mac software) but there breaks the
comparison: a 486 or P5 pc runs anything faster than softwindows on powermac
because IT CAN RUN IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!   Many software titles now REQUIRE
386 level code to run, to take advantage of the machine running it.
Softwindows is merely making a 700 series Mercedes run like an old ford
Fairmont.  Apple's marketing is verging on sleezy IMO. It suggets promises
of great things that are not, at least not yet.  We are left waiting.

I use both a Windows pc and a Mac at work.  Frankly, I wish the computer
world could settle on standards. (Apple would have made things easier for
its users a long time ago by using the same Floppy disk format as everyone
else...).  At home, I have a Windows PC, because it was cheaper when I was a
student.  Software was also more readily available. And frankly, I refused
to work on anything as small as a compact Mac's screen (that would have been
the only affordable Mac category for me).

Meanwhile, users are trapped in making choices they would rather not have to
do :(  (I know, I work in a computer training outfit).

Hopefully, softwindows 386 will be out some day.  That would be the first
step in helping Mac users.

Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:52:56 -0400
Subject: Re: plexiglass platform

>> is the plexiglass platform large enough to support the weight of a quilt
for machine quilting?<<

I use one for the Pfaff on the dining room table. You need the support of a
large table or need to put another small table behind the sewing machine
table to support the quilt. Having it in a cabinet will not provide all the
support you need either. You would still need the table. I need the
plexiglass with the Pfaff since it doesn't have as large a surface as the
Bernina and makes guiding the quilt much easier. The plexiglass is bigger
than what comes with the Bernina but not so big that I feel I need one for
the 1530. 

Mary M
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:53:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Breaking Needles

>>I remember reading here that breaking a needle will result in needing to
have the machine serviced.<< 

Perhaps this is another urban legend, but it is not true. If it were, my 1530
would have been in for service at least 10 times since I got it in November.
I might also point out that I have had an 830 since it was brand new and it
has never been in for service. It has been kept meticulously clean and oiled
as specified and I'm sure I broke dozens of needles on it, but it is in
fantastic shape. Just keep it clean and oiled, and when you break a needle be
sure you have accounted for all the pieces. Perhaps a piece of broken needle
not being removed is what caused someone to need service?

Mary M
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:05:00 -0400
Subject: Newsletter and 1630 gears

I am interested in the newsletter mentioned on sewing BBS on AOL.  
I have 1630 1 year old that is in the serial numbers for recall on gears.
 Can I send it directly to Bernina or must I go through a dealer.  My dealer
did't even know what I was talking about when I called last week.  My number
is in the recall group and my Christmas tree does not stitch out corectly.  I
appreciate your answer to these.  Thanks
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:42:57 -0400
Subject: Breaking needles

Breaking a needle (which I've done from time to time) has never caused my
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 07:52:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Using the MAC w/ the 1630

Why are you changing to a Viking?  I have been seriously considering
 getting the 1260 only because 1230 is no longer in production.  Are you
dissatisfied in any way?  Mary
Subject: Breaking Needles
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:06:43 -0400 (EDT)


I hit a pin and broke a needle recently.  It threw my "timing" 
off and Nina wouldn't sew -- skipped stitches BIG time!  The 
timing is adjusted during a regular "checkup".  Total cost:  
$55.00 -- UGH!

Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:58:01 MDT
Subject: sewing canvas

My husband has asked me to sew some flaps onto a heavy canvas
tent. My Bernina is brand new and while I think it can do it,
I'm a bit scared to actually try it. Has anyone else sewn such
heavy material? Do I use the jeans foot? What about needles and
thread? Any info is greatly appreciated! Thanks! Debbie
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:28:49 -0400
Subject: quilting surfaces

About four years ago, or maybe longer, when my neighbors moved in, I grabbed
a box their mover had packed a mirror in. It was just the same thickness as
the sewing machine bed. I cut a hole for the sewing machine to slide into. It
was made for my Pfaff, but when I got my Bernina I discovered that the hole
worked just as well when I put the regular working surface over the hole. For
a year I looked for a cheap way to replace this surface with something
sturdier. One day it finally dawned on me that the box had lasted three
years, and I could get another one cheap if it breaks. I use empty bolt tubes
to support the top surface of the box. I also have a bolt that still has
fabric on it that I use to support my right arm. I quilted an 80"x80" quilt
on this system last year. 

Also, we already had a thread on using the Bernina software on the mac. I
believe the conclusion was that softwindows cannot currently run the software
because it does not emulate some memory thing. I also cannot run autocad
either. What if all of us mac people started writing to Bernina?

I believe also, that the discussion about breaking needles, was that if you
hit a PIN with your needle you could mess up the timing on your machine.

I have had "quilter's block" all week, and I haven't been sewing. But today I
am wearing my shirt that says "No whining, I'm quilting" and I am now going
up to my studio and staying there all day.
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:17:47 -0700
Subject: Deco 500

I am contemplating the purchase of the Deco 500 in the next few days. I
have trouble justifying it other than it looks like it is fun and easy to
use and would probably be the start of a new hobby. The stitch quality
looks beautiful as is typical of Bernina. Is it really as easy to use as I
think it is and how does it compare to other embroidery machines? I have a
Bernina 930 and would keep it,therefore the straight embroidery machine
makes more sense to me rather than one which does it all. I would greatly
appreciate whatever info anyone might have.
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:53:44 -0400
Subject: Re: The Mac. Windows, and market share

To Sylvain,
Here is where I have to beg to differ with you.
First, yes, the pc clones have 90% of the market share, because of their
lower cost. However, most Mac people are more willing to venture into
something different (ie spend money for) something like Design Software for a
high-end sewing machine, not to mention being more creative with graphic-type
applications, so they are more apt to be successful with the software. In
reading the postings, both here &on aol, most of the people interested in
the 1630 software seem to have the high-end PowerMacs, with scanners, etc.
Maybe that should send a signal to Bernina, that the people willing to spend
the money have Macs?

In addition, the problem is not the software, but rather the
software/hardware hook up combintation.

In speaking with computer experts at 2 very major companies in Michigan, they
are most pro-Mac and anti-PC. One of the companies that is in the process of
getting rid of Macs is doing so not at the recommendation of its computer
experts, but rather at the recommendation of its out-dated managers who were
raised with IBM main-frame computers and know essentially nothing about
today's offerings. (Yes, I, too, am a little biased, being President of our
area Mac Club. ) 

Sorry, Sylvain, but you pushed a button on this one that maybe would have
been better left alone. I probably should have waited before I responded to
your message, but I took it as being sent in an inflammatory way with your
shouting. :-(
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:56:12 -0400
Subject: Re: plexiglass platform

I don't know if this will be any help, but....
When I had to move into a smaller house I purchased a computer center with an
area for the keyboard that I would be able to raise and lower.  I use this
for my sewing center.  With the keyboard platform in its lower position it
make's a flat surface ajacent to the regular sewing surface on my Bernina the
width of the desk and approximatly four feet wide,  and because it is a
corner type unit I have my serger to the right of me and to the left, the
shelf provided for the computer monitor (a portable shelf) holds my TV and
sewing supplies underneath.  It's solved my problem.
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:09:52 -0400
Subject: Bernina Warehouse

Can you please tell me where the warehouse is?

Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:49:38 -0400
Subject: 1630 gear upgrade.

Has anyone heard of another recall for early 1630"s.  There is talk on AOL of
a gear recall.  Someone posted the serial numbers, mine is in that category.
 Did they do this as part of the first upgrade?

Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:50:51 -0400
Subject: Call for Truce on Mac vs PC

Hi Everyone:

I apologize for reacting in anger yesterday to Sylvain's posting attacking
the Mac and Apple Computer. I could talk/write for hours on the subject of
Mac vs PC, but this is not the forum for that issue at all.

There is a general principle in the business world that 80% of the
business/purchases seems to come from less than 10% of the customers. Perhaps
Bernina should think about just who their high-end customers are. If they
did, maybe they would be quicker to come out with the software and hardwware
hookups necessary for the Mac. :-) THa is all this thread was about in the
first place.

With that, let's call it a truce and return this forum to what it was meant
to be--helping one another use out Bernina equipment more effectively, and to
the best of our abilities.

To Sue T. We can't thank you enough for all that you have done, organizing
this great forum. It is a super service, that requires a lot of time and
effort on your part. We all learn a lot because of it! We appreciate it very

Subject: Re: The Mac, Windows, and the 1630
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT)

Isn't there software available like MacWin or something that
will enable you to run Windows applications on a Mac?  I seem
to recall my SO saying something about it.  It won't help if
the software is DOS.  And I don't know if you have the right
system for the interface between mac and bernina.

As for the mac vs. pc debate, they are both wimpy little computers.
I much prefer a mainframe with full computational and graphic 
capabilities.  I'm expanding my living room to put in my new
cray jedi.  I'm going to put an ottoman around the cooling 
tower, so we can sit in a circle with our backs to each other.
Of course, they will be networked to SGI's.  I haven't chosen
the model yet, but I can't abide the crummy graphics on the
mac.  And I'm going to put a Sun so that I can do all my data
aquisition and processing and put in more dumb terminals with
graphics capabiliteis.  Command line interfaces are infinitely
superior to GUI junk because it give you more control.  

And to think that Bernina isn't gong to be able to interface
with my nifty system, what were they thinking?

Jeez, people lighten up.  Different computers were designed to 
fill different needs in the consumer population.  There is not
and there will never be the perfect computer.  Each and every
one has its own strengths and weaknesses.  I could never do my
job on either the mac or a pc.  They simply do not have the 
computational power or memory capabilities that I require.  OTOH,
altho I could do everything else on my workstation or by opening
a window and telneting to another system, I much prefer to use
the mac for my document formating and spreadsheet work (like travel
vouchers).  But I would rather die than use a mac for data aquisition
or to drive a controller.  The software available is much better for
DOS, and with the command line interface, I have finer control.  IMHO,
windows is a big joke, but we have it at home because pc are much
more affordable than my little dream system and most people seem to
prefer Windows over DOS (I just don't understand this.  It only takes
a little reading.  What is the big deal?  Then again, I'm an engineer
and I communicate rather like an engineer.), so that is the platform
that a lot of software is written for.  

My hunch is that Bernina software and system interface is only
available for pc's because basically what you are doing is driving 
a controller.  The mac simply was not designed for this job.  The
interface on the pc is easy to set up.  I don't know about the mac,
but I don't know of anyone who uses a mac in this situation either.

I'm going to go back to my computational mechanics now and fondly
remember those days long ago when I worked on software for the
Berkeley Axis Machine (BAM (tm)), the finest controller on the 
market :), and the days I spend in a dungeon formating my thesis
on a mac.  

Each to her (or his) own, be it favorite computer, food, entertainment,
or whatever.

GE/GQ d(--) H++>+++ s/+  g+ p? au++++ a w+ v+>++ C+ US+ P? L 3 N++ E--- 
K-- W M+ V-- po- Y+  t+ !5 j- R G? tv b+++ D+ B+(--) e+++ u++(**) h--- 
f+ r++ n+++ x+++

Ungeek to find out where I'm coming from.  Oh, and nobody mentionned
it, but the system that I would rather pound my head against a brick
wall than use is VMS.  But IBM saw the light and puts some sort of
Unix on its machines now.  
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:18:30 -0400
Subject: Model 1080

Hi, I'm new to this list but was wondering if anyone had any opinions about
the 1080 model.  I can get it for about $1000 and was wondering if I should
get another model or grab it while I can.  I mostly do quilting, with some
clothes making on the side.  Thanks!

Jessica D
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 10:41:05 PDT
Subject: Re:  Deco 500

The Deco 500 is a Brother with bernina housing.  Bernina
also has some trademark design that come with it.  According
to my dealer, we are at the beginning of a new era as
far as embroidery machines.  She believes (and the manufacturers)
that more/better machines will come out within a year. I would
like to buy one but I think there are alot of quirks with 
buying a new model.  I will consider buying an embroidery
machine  after a couple different models are around for
a while.  If you feel you would like it now and can
justify expense though, I would go for it.  My recent
purchase of the 1630 w/ software has made me purchase shy
as it took a lot of research to decide.
Subject: Mac Software for the 1630
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:45:25 +0800 (WST)

Lets not start the proverbial flame war over IBM's vs MAC'S.  Its not very
productive -- Lets just agree to disagree over this issue and get onto more
interesting topics.  Talk to Bernina and Apple as they are the ones with the
power to change things.

I personally believe that there is NO "One size fits all" of anything and that
people need a lot of different products to choose from as my needs and way of
working are likely to be different form yours and I may select a different
product for that reason.  I chose a Bernina because it felt right to me and
Pfaffs didn't. I have a friend who has a Pfaff for exactly the same reasons. I
don't harp on her choice as "WRong" as many enticed into the MAC/IBM debate do.
No one is wrong, people just make different choices for different reasons.
Please wage the MAC/IBM war in another forum.
Date: 21 Apr 95 23:59:05 EDT
Subject: subscribe

Please allow me to subscribe to internet Bernina and put me on the digest.

I am interested in finding out how to decide which Bernina to buy.  I do not own
one and want to buy one.  I do a lot of quilting mend things.  I have made alot
of curtains.  I want to learn
 about embrodiery.  Thanks.
Subject: Walking foot question.
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 21:18:42 PDT

Hi Everyone:

I have a Bernina 1530 and a walking foot.

Am I not supposed to go in reverse when using this foot?  :-/

Jean P
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 09:08:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Sewing canvas

Good luck in you efforts on the canvas.  You should be able to do it easily.
 Try the #8 foot unless you need to zigzag stitch.  Also try a jeans needle
size 16 or 18--jeans needles have a pierce-point that enables them to sew
through thick, dense layers.  Only a Bernina will sew an old jeans hem that
is packed hard.  Sew new canvas with ease!
Another needle , little-known, but available, is the leather needle.  It has
a chisel-point , designed to CUT a hole in the leather as you sew.  I have
some extras--email me if you need and can't find them locally.

Enjoy!   Ida T
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 09:49:23 -0400
Subject: Re: Call for Truce on Mac vs. PC

I think that the forum is the wrong place for the debate. I think we should
be writing Bernina. I hope the letters will roll in. Pat R
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 08:48:28 -0700
Subject: Re: Deco 500


Thank you for the information re: the Deco 500. I can't really justify the
expense and I have considered waiting because of possible quirks with new
models. The problem is that they are scheduled for another price increase
and if I act soon I can get a demo which will save me some money. I have
had such good luck with Bernina that I'll probably get it and just hope
that there won't be any major problems.

Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 14:05:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Walking Foot Question

To Jean Post who asked about reverse stitching with her walking foot:  I 
have a walking foot for an old-model Bernina.  The directions which came 
with the foot have a cryptic one-liner about reverse stitch length on 
the Red Stitches of the Model 930.
I would conclude that, at least for this model, reversing is just fine.  It 
seems to be telling the user that reverse stitch length maximum is "3" on 
some stitches. Therefore, if you still have your printed instructions, it 
might say something pertinent to your model of machine.

Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 16:36 PDT
Subject: quilt-tac

Can any of you give me advice on using quilt-tac?  I like the convenience of
it, but I am having trouble keeping my fabric stretched tight. 
Cheryl R
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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 15:24:47 -0400
Subject: sewing on canvas

A long time ago, before we had children, we had a boat on Lake Michigan that
was really in bad shape. I made a lot of sail covers and other canvas things
for the boat, and I had an old Kenmore at the time. The canvas I was using
was treated with sunshield and probably a few other things. I had no problem
sewing with it using regular heavy needles. I may have bought special thread.
If you are sewing canvas you might want to check with a sail maker or canvas
worker in your area to see if they have special tools to make your life
easier. I bought the fabric from the sail maker, and they were really nice
about it, they even gave me some extra strength velcro. I was very happy with
the sailcover and saved big bucks. You know, I bet I still have those scraps
somewhere, I think I was saving them for a duffle bag.
Subj:    Bernina Digest
Date:    95-04-23 14:41:43 EDT

In reply to Jean P with question re: walking foot:

I, too, have a Bernina 1530 and use my walking foot backwards and forwards
every time I apply binding to my quilts.  Have had not problems going

Also, in reply to comments from others that they have problems going over

Harriet Hargrave, in a class I attended in Burbank, said that we could not
only have the metal bar removed from the front of the foot, but could also
have the rubber (plastic?) "knob" removed from the bottom of the foot.
  Makes a big difference.  The machine repair person at Bearly Stitchin' in
Pasadena, Calif, removed both for $12.

My foot no longer catches on anything and I can see.

Anne W
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:37:00 -0400
Subject: Re: plexiglass platform

I own one of the plexiglass platforms which I purchased when I was
considering getting some sort of sewing cabinet with more surface than my
Bernina platform gave. One of the big reasons for getting it was the demos I
saw on Sew Creative where they used it as a light box by putting a
flourescent light under it. I also needed a light box, so this solved two
problems at once. I'm happy with the table, it provides a lot more surface
area than my Bernina one and you do have more room for things like scissors
and pins under it, plus it works great as a light box - especially useful for
paper piecing. Sue M.
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:33:25 -0500
Subject: Paducah get together

For anyone who is going to Paducah this week, you are invited to a picnic that
will be Friday, April 28, at 11:30.  Location is in the lawn near the AQS
museum.  Food tents will be available across the street from the museum.  The 
plan is for you to buy lunch and join others on the lawn at the museum.  I plan
to bring a blanket to sit on, and you might want to do the same.

I'll be easy to spot.  I am planning to wear a pair of light blue jeans, comfy
athletic shoes, and a white t-shirt that I have machine appliques with a Kindred
Spirits design.  She is the sewing lady in the combat boots, with the message
printed "Sew, we are kindred spirits" on it.

Ida T
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:49:46 EST
Subject: Jean's walking foot question

As I understand it, you can go backwards, but your needle may not
go in the same hole it went into the first time for the reverse 
motion stitches.

If this was already answered, I appoligize, I haven't finished all
of my weekend mail yet.

Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:29:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Walking foot

I have a friend who does all his sewing with the walking foot attached to 
his 1230.  I had never considered using it on a regular basis until 
talking with him. 
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 10:42:27 MDT
Subject: thanks for info!

Thanks for the help with sewing the canvas.  The jeans foot, #100 
needle, and mercerized thread did the job great.  I guess I thought
since my Bernina was computerized that it was too fragile to work
on heavy stuff, but it went through that canvas like butter.
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:55:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 4/23/95

Hi everyone.  Both quilt groups from AOL and from GEnie are actively involved
in making quilt blocks for the children of Oklahoma City.  If you are
interested please e-mail me and I will give you more information.  
These will be sewn together for child sized quilts.  

Roni G
Subject: Re: Plexiglass platform
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 9:10:52 -0400 (EDT)

    I own one of the plexiglass platforms which I purchased when I was
    considering getting some sort of sewing cabinet with more surface than my
    Bernina platform gave. One of the big reasons for getting it was the demos I
    saw on Sew Creative where they used it as a light box by putting a
    flourescent light under it. I also needed a light box, so this solved two
    problems at once. I'm happy with the table, it provides a lot more surface
    area than my Bernina one and you do have more room for things like scissors
    and pins under it, plus it works great as a light box - especially useful for
    paper piecing. Sue M.


This may sound like a "dumb" question, but, do you still use the 
Bernina platform with it?

Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 10:51:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Plexiglass platform

Sue, I have only half been paying attention to all the talk about the
plexilgass platform, but when you mentioned that it also worked as a light
box, you got my attention.  Is the platform made by Bernina and sold by the
dealers?  Where did you get yours and if you don't mind my asking, how much
are they?  Thanks for the info, Laura
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:36:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Plexiglass platform

I ordered my plexiglass platforms (one for my 'Nina the other for my
Featherweight) from Lynn Graves in Albuq., N.M. She has a catalog--she was
the inventor of the little foot and big foot, etc. I love the platform---made
so well. I also use mine as a light table. I have a wonderful little light
that is fluorescent--it is unique it folds--fold open and the light
automatically comes on, fold it down and the light goes off. It does not get
hot, folds compactly for classes and on its side fits right under my platform
for a light box! I love it. By the way, bought the light at Office Depot.
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:30:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Sewing canvas

Now to answer your question, do you honestly believe your husband would
give your neighbor a push with his brand new car??
Rent yourself a commercial machine and don't do that to 'nina!!  Believe me,
even though they will do it it's not worth the stress , especially if your 
new one is a computerized one!!
I used to make slipcovers and draperies(way before sergers) and I learned 
the hard way that commercial machines were needed for that!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:46:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Plexiglass platform


I bought my plexiglass platform through the mail from Lynn Graves.  It took
about 2 weeks to get from New Mexico to Ohio.   I believe it was $50.00 which
included postage and handling.

I really recommend this WONDERFUL table!!  I machine quilt and it has been a
great help.

I don't have Lynn Graves' address handy.  Does anyone else have her address?

Date:          Thu, 27 Apr 1995 07:46:33 EST5DST
Subject:       Re: Plexiglass Platform
Address is: Little Foot, Ltd. 605 Bledsoe NW, Albuquerque, NM 87107  
Phone # 505-345-7647
Linda P
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 08:51:42 -0400
Subject: Slipcovers and draperies

I beg to disagree with the person who said it was too hard on your machine to
make slipcovers and draperies on it and that you should use a commercial
machine. I have made countless slipcovers and draperies on all the machines I
have ever owned, Featherweight, Kenmore, Bernina and Pfaff and other than
being excrutiatingly boring, I have never had a minute's problem on any of
them which could be attributed to the draperies or slipcovers. This is NOT my
favorite type of sewing, however.

Mary M
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 16:28:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Plexiglass platforms

???? How big is this table?? top dimension???
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:06:52 PDT
Subject: re: Plexiglass platforms

My table is from "DreamWorld Enterprises"
                  P.O. Box 192
                  Bonners Ferry ID 83805

It measures 18" front to back &
15" from the side of the machine plus
its wrap area around the machine. 

Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 08:18:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Plexiglass platforms


RE:  "How big is this table?? top dimension?"

My plexiglass table from Little Foot is 16" x 24".  I really love it!  I
haven't used the smaller table that came with my 1530 since I received the
plexiglass one.  But, of course, I'm going to keep it for workshops and
classes..."have machine will travel"!!

Happy Quilting!

Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:53:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Slipcovers And Draperies


   I just wanted to say that the Berninas will handle all materials (with 
the correct needle) even sail boat sails!! I know because one of our 
customers uses his for that.  HOWEVER, 	 please keep in mind that 
Berninas are not meant for COMERCIAL use such as in tayloring or 
drycleaning businesses.  The Bernina warrenty will NOT cover that 
constant 8 hour of sewing type work.  The commercial machine that Bernina 
makes has a much stronger motor (seperate from the head) and is meant for 
industerial use.  It is the length of time that the motor is run 
constantly that takes the toll. Most people making slipcovers or 
draperies for their homes, sew ,try, adjust etc.  So the machine is not  
put on fast sewing and constantly in motion.
   Wishing you all a great sewing day......Jacque
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:07:19 -0400
Subject: What's the Scoop on the Next New Bernina Top of the Line?

I've played with all the major line models and I've been waiting for my
dream machine.

I currently own a 1230 and I can't trade up until the new generation
fulfills that dream.

My wish list:

1.  A large clear easy to read screen.
2.  Software that is easy to use - allows for any type of graphic to be
imported and produces                           Jenome 8000 quality design
fill-in stitches.
3.  The same hook quality as the 1230 - a straight stitch shouldn't wobble.

Does anyone have anything to add to the wish list and is there any info in
the pipe line on the next top-of-the-line Bernina?


Caroline S

"Charter Member of Sew-A-Holics Anonymous"
Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 95 19:07:18 EDT
Subject:      Help with stitch setting

We're having somewhat of a problem with the Bernina 1630 -
Can anyone tell us if this is a problem with the machine, or with

What we want to do:  Narrow edge stitching, outer edges, (page 30
of the manual).

We use foot #5, set the stitch at straight (A1/1).
We then set the needle position at the left by using the stitch
width dial.

When we have done all this, the needle sews to the right side of
the material - doesn't even stitch the material at all.  It's as
if the needle needs to move another 1/8 to 1/4" to the left, even
when stitch width is all the way to the left.

It is interesting that, if we then move the stitch width to the
right, even though it is on straight stitch, it does a zig-zag
stitch.  Is that right?  Should it do a zig-zag stitch when set to

Any advice greatly appreciated!
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 11:59:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina DIgest 4/28/95

Christine, great idea.  Maybe Bernina will hear us if we keep talking about
our dream machine.

I would like a bobbin that winds itself in the boobin area.  I would also
like a low bobbin indicator that will beep or whistle Dixie, or make some
kind of a noise.  I never pay close enough attention to the flashing light on
the 1630
Designer software for my Mac.
Rotary Hook tension again.
Guess that is it for now, don't worry I'll think of more!!!

Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 14:22:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Help with Stitch Setting


Underneath your stitch width markings there is a row of 11 little marks.  
These indicate needle positions which you select with the mouse(cursor) and 
on OK when you have the needle position you want.  Then when you sew, the 
needle will stay at the position you have selected.  I just tried it the 
way you described, trying to select needle position with the stitch width 
contol and it went into a zig zag mode like you said.  But when I 
selected needle position with the mouse, the needle stayed where I put it.

Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 95 18:43:08 EDT
Subject:      Re: Re:Help with Stitch Setting


Many thanks for the response and the help.

Jerry (for Dorothy) 
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 20:39:58 -0400
Subject: 1630 Blank screen

I was sewing and the screen went "funny" then went blank.  Turned off and on
a couple of times but still just blank.  It will sew straight stitch, but no
way to change size or anything with the green blank screen.  Machine is 1 yer
and 2 weeks old.  Does this mean it is out of warrenty?  I hope not!  I am in
the numbers that need the gear recall fixed.  Does this have anything to do
with this problem?  I am in the middle of an important project.  Isn't this
always the way.  Any help is greatly appreciated.
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 23:06:49 EDT

What is the going price for Bernina Scanners for Deco 500,
are prices the same at all stores? 
Date:         Sun, 30 Apr 95 11:59:28 EDT
Subject:      Help with Designer

Dear Bernina folks:

(I'm not sure who is at the address BerninaOffice, but I'm hoping
that it is someone who can help us.)

I just bought the new Bernina Designer as a gift for my wife, and
we are having a great deal of difficulty getting it to operate
properly.  Can you put me in touch with someone, either through e-
mail, telephone or whatever, who can help us in getting the
program to work?  Here are the specific problems.

Installation:  no problem.  We have installed the program and
sent the test file, etc.  We have even sent our own designs, and
everything is connected, etc., properly.

Questions and Problems.

Basic problem:  the pattern is not sewn correctly.  boxes,
triangles, etc., do not close. When we sew it, there is a large
gap between the beginning of the first stitch and the end of the
last stitch.  On a one inch pattern, there will be more than a
1/8" gap.  This has happened with our own patterns and even with
the demonstration file included with the program --  Lesson 2 (see
page 25 of the manual.)  The demonstration file is called

This kind of inaccuracy does not happen with the built-in
patterns, all of which are sewn quite nicely.  It only happens
with computer generated patterns.

Specific questions:

1.  The manual indicates that you must do three things before
putting in the first stitch, then does not tell you how to do
them. On page 24, the manual says that, before beginning:
     a. the sewing direction must be defined
     b. the sequence of the stitches must be defined
     c. decide which attributes to assign to which stitches.
Is this something that you do mentally with regard to the bitmap
picture, or something you do with the program.  The way the
directions read, they seem to indicate that it must be defined in
the program.  But there is no way to define them in the program,
only in your head.  If that is the case, it would be better if the
manual indicated that you should decide on the direction and
sequence.  If it is not the case, then I have no idea how to
define them in the program.

2.  The instructions are unclear as to whether the program decides
where to put stitches, or whether you have to calculate the
position.  For example, if the stitch is set to 2mm, must the line
be an exact multiple of 2mm?  What happens if the line is 11 mm
long?  Does the line end at 10mm?  at 12mm? or at 11mm with the
machine calculating what is necessary.

3.  If you have to calculate the distances exactly, then the
program is much too primitive to help you do it.  If a line is
perfectly horizontal or vertical, there is no problem measuring
the distance, but if the line is diagonal, you are in big trouble.

The program should tell you, regardless of direction, the distance
the cursor is from the last stitch, so you'll know just how far
from the last stitch you are placing the next stitch. An
alternative would be the ability to rotate the grid.

4.  Grid: The grid is a real pain.  Absolutely primitive
programming.  First of all, the grid points do not correspond to
anything -- which is quite strange in itself. The manual states
that the grid is .35mm.  Why? That number does not correspond to
the ruler, in either measurement setting (inches or millimeters),
nor does it correspond to the stitch length settings.  What help
is a grid that doesn't match the ruler or the stitch length?

In short, the grid should be definable as to size.

Second, the grid only comes on, in my program, when the size is 17
to 1.  The manual (page 52) indicates that the grid should appear
from a scale of 7.5-1 or larger.  The grid will NOT appear at 7.5
to 1, or even 10 to 1.  Is this a defect in the program, or in the
manual?  If a defect in the program, I'd like to find out how to
get a corrected version of the program.

5. Ruler:  Why no numbers on the vertical ruler (on the left)?
There are numbers on the horizontal ruler but not on the vertical
one.  Is there something wrong with my version of the program
here, or was the program designed not to have numbers on the left
side of it?  (Again, strange programming, to say the least.)


Of all of the comments above, there is only one that is critical
at this point:  that is that the machine does not sew the patterns
correctly.  Even with trio.bmp when we follow the instructions and
are VERY careful to use the right fabric and to ensure that it is
kept straight at all times, the machine leaves large gaps.  This
is a real problem to us.

Can anyone help us solve this one?

Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 16:44:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Scanners

The scanners for the Bernette Deco 500 are really the Brother (BabyLock)
scanners, as is the machine itself. The difference between the Deco 500 and
the Essante and Esprit are that the Deco has 30 extra built-in designs, and a
slightly different presser foot. When I had my first lesson for the Deco,
everyone else had an Esprit or an Essante and they all work the same. Back to
the question of what do the scanners cost--either $1200 or $1299, but I got
20% off since this is a store where I have a 20% discount for all of 1995, a
really nice deal. The reason I can't tell you the exact price is that I'm in
Paducah still with the laptop and will return home tomorrow. I love the Deco
500 and got the scanner along with the machine because that was the whole
point--to be able to scan any design (within the size limitations of course)
and have it digitized for me. Robbi Eklow, whom you all know, went with me
when I got my first Esprit/Essante demo before the Deco was out, and calls it
a "grandma" machine, meaning that it's a good machine for grandmas who want
to embellish their grandchildren's clothes. (My granddaughter is 10 months
old and will have lots of embellished stuff (as I will too). I decided to
wait for the Deco because of the 30 extra designs. I think it's a great
machine and I'd love to correspond with anyone who has any of the Brother
made  embroidery machines.

Mary M
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 23:49:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Help with Designer

Dear Jerry,
I have had the Bernina Designer software since Oct 94.  Until recently I had
not done much with it.  I will try to give you some hints that I have learned
by trial &error but your specific questions concerning grids and stitch
sizes as relates to "strange programming" need to be addressed to the Deanox
Group ( the technical support organization).  They are on AOL so you could
E-mail them directly or your dealer should be able to contact them for you.  
Now for a few of my hints:
1.  I have found that the triple straight stitch tends to distort pattern.
2.  I choose to use the plain straight stitch and go back and forth (actually
double stitching) over each stitch.
3.  Also using a longer stitch length than the default setting seems to help.
4.  When stitching designs out be sure to use a new needle, stitch slowly and
make sure fabric does not twist.  I find it helpful to even draw a grid on my
fabric as a guide to keep presser foot always parallel to grid.
5.  Another idea is to make sure you completed as much detail in an area as
possible so you limit the travel distance within the motif.
6.  An idea I've had but not tried yet, is to use a dot to dot picture to
scan so as to learn the best sequence to set stitches.
7.  I am not an expert computer user so can't comment on the version of the
program but I do have it from a good source that an update is coming.

Hope this helps a little.  Let me know.
Sue K
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 08:21:38 -0400
Subject: Re: AQS Show

Bernina has a Advanced Guide available that is a wealth of info. and all the
books by Mary Lou Null are wonderful. Another good source is the Bernina
Footnotes that dealers carry. Enjoy your new machine!!!! Pat 

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