Bernina Fan Club Archives

December 1997

Sunday, December 7 - Saturday, December 13

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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 21:02:23 +0000
Subject: Re maker of early Kenmore

I believe the Janome (Japan) used to make Kenmore machines.  Whether
they still do, I don't know.
Donna  
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 20:38:31 EST
Subject: Beep

In a message dated 97-12-06 20:08:11 EST, you write:

>> Hi:  I was at the Bernina Dealer today.  Learned a few interesting facts. 
 The Bernina sews at a very slow rate, it takes a long time to do a design. 
 I also think when it gets out of bobbin thread it doesn't beep, at least
 that is what happened in the store today, and the machine kept sewing, so
 the sewer has to find their place back somewhere because there is a big
 half sewn space.  Those two things surprised me because I was really primed
 to be charmed.  jr
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They just didn't have the beeper set up to beep, when the bobbin ran out. each
new owner is suppost to set up their own beeper, on the 180. the 170 doesn't
have a beeper for the bobbin
also it is very easy to go back to where it ran out of thread.
Some Dealers don't have a clue.
 Betty 
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 20:29:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: "Dirty Feet"

Hi Karen,

What I use for my dirty feet is a mini-vacuum cleaner.  It attaches to a
small hand held vac and works pretty good.  Hope this helps.  I am a bit
behind in my e-mail so that's why this is coming a bit late.

Josephine  
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Subject:  "Dirty Feet"
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 00:23:59 -0600

I just purchased an 1130 that also came with dirty feet.  In fact, I
thought the feet were "goners" because they didn't even want to flex in the
places they were supposed to flex in.   And all of the metal, on the
outside of the machine, seemed to have a kind of "tarnished" or "oxidized"
look to them.  I had some "all metal" cream polish that came in a
toothpaste-type tube (we picked it up at a Corvette show), called WENOL
(made in W. Germany).  Anyway, the polish is a pink cream and said it would
clean, polish, and preserve metal surfaces (gold, silver, brass, copper,
pewter, chrome, stainless steel, aluminium, tin, painted surfaces, ceramic
tile and fiberglass).  I wasn't sure what kind of metal our feet were made
of, but it must fall into one of those categories!  I put a little on a
damp rag and rubbed on the metal parts of the sewing machine (spool
holders, thread routes on top, take-up level, bobbin winder knobs, and
needle and foot bars).  The rag became very black with the rubbing, but boy
did it clean and polish!!  Then I used a dry rag to polish off any residue
and even used an old soft toothbrush to brush all over the feet and get
into the little grooves.  The feet looked brand new when I got done and the
machine's metal parts took on a new sparkle again.  It made a big
difference in looks and also how the machine sewed with "clean" feet!!  I'm
not sure where to get more of this stuff, but you might try to find
something similar in the car/polish department in the automotive stores, or
Wal-Mart.  I think that who ever had the machine before I bought it must
have left it uncovered and the feet exposed all of the time to the open
air.  
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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 20:46:08 -0600
Subject: 180

Hi 

I picked up my 180E on Monday.  It spent Monday night in the trunk
because my husband was home.  Tuesday morning it came in and after
familiarizing myself with it a little.  I did some applique, and it was
just great.  I love being able to touch the screen, that just feels so
right, and easy.  I also did some free machine quilting (right after I
went to my dealer and bought Foot #24), they had such a great selection,
I bought 4 others also.  It really handled everything beautifully.  I
was very impressed.  I used it today to finish my Christmas ornaments,
small straight stitches, the tension seems to be just perfect, doesn't
need much adjustment for applique at all, and I used Sulky, DMC Machine
Embroidery and a strange large Metallic, all with the same needle and
presserfoot.  No problems. My final shot today was putting the last
panel on my Noah's Ark Quilt, very heavy going through lots of layers of
quilted fabric and fleece.  Again, same needle and presserfoot.  Great
results.   

The embroidery unit is still in the box.  I need more courage to get
into that.  Will report when I do.  

So far, I am very happy with it.  My 1630 has not seen the light of day
since Monday.  I don't know what I will do about it.  I have all the
feet.  Decisions, decisions.

Just wanted to share.  Incidentally, someone wrote and said it didn't
beep when the bobbin ran out.  It does, you just have to set it up to do
that.

Nancy J 
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 06:38:27 EST
Subject: Re: Bobbins

In a message dated 97-12-07 06:06:42 EST, you write:

>>The bobbins for the Bernina 930 are the same size that the Singer
 > Featherweight uses >>

I'm pretty sure the FW bobbins will not fit the 930 - FW bobbins are too
skinny!
Martha Ann
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Subject: Re: New 150
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 18:07:49 -0800

Have had my 160 now for 2mo. and have been sewing up a storm with it,do like
it alot but find it not as easy to manuver the material as on my old
machine, only because of better feed dogs, a better grip, but if I have lots
of manuvering to do I find my walking foot works soo- great!!
    I was told that the first installation of stitches is free and there
after it's 20.oo. You can -E-mail me if you think of any more questions.
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 10:47:56 EST
Subject: Re: Bobbins   Countin' them Bobbin Holes  :-)

Clotile mail order catalog has BERNINA 1630  Bobbins for $8.40 a
packet....Look them up.
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Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 10:44:14 +0100
Subject: 1530 price

Hi,  I am thinking about buying a 1530 and have been quoted a price of
$1999.  Does this sound like a good price?  I currently have an 830, and
I primarily do quilting.  Do you think the 1530 would be a good machine
for this purpose?  I also thought that when I test drove the 1530 that
the straight stitch looked a little slanted to me.  All the shop people
thought it looked fine and assured me that all the machines stiches
looked the same.  They didn't have a stright stitch plate that I could
try out.  Any comments or ideas?  TIA for any info.
Teresa
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Subject: Artista180
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 22:40:41 -0500

I thought I'd address a few comments regarding the new Artista 180. This is
such a wonderful machine! You must sew on one of these to understand just
how fantastic they are!

>>...I also think when it gets out of bobbin thread it doesn't
beep, at least that is what happened in the store today, and the machine
kept sewing, so the sewer has to find their place back somewhere because
there is a big half sewn space.  >

Not true! I have the Artista 180 and have been demonstrating it and sewing
on it for two weeks. When the lower thread indicator is set to beep, the
machine will beep when the bobbin thread is low and will STOP. It will not
stop if the beep is off. If you want to keep on sewing, open the bobbin door
and go. I love this feature. I never was watching the screen on my 1630 and
always missed the low bobbin indicator. Now my machine beeps at me and
stops. I have the bobbin set for 3 beeps and upper thread set for 2 beeps.
If upper thread breaks or empties, it beeps twice and stops.

>>The Bernina sews at a very slow rate, it takes a long time to do a design.

Also, I haven't noticed the embroidery to be any slower than the Deco 500 I
had. There are some areas in which the machine will slow down...usually if
there are long thread jumps or dense stitching. This prevents thread
breakage. In the Deco, you have to push in the start button to slow it down.
The machine is a real speed demon when sewing.

You need to know that most dealers at this time have prototypes in there
stores. They are not machines that are totally functional. So what you see
may not be a 100% functional Artista. The machines shipped to consumers are
finished...at least till the first upgrade! .

Donna 
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:54:13 EST
Subject: Re: Stain Out?

Either your grocery store or your local uniform shop sells a product called
Z'OUT and it is even wonderful at getting rid of OLD stains!!!!!!!!  R.A
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Subject: Hancock Paducha
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 14:26:48 -0500

I've lost the information on the Hancock's Paducha web site can anyone =
resend the information

Thank you

Gretchen
"The Cat Basket"
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Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 12:44:06 -0600
Subject: Re: Buckwheat Hull Pillows

Sally wrote:

>
>Iwould like to make a couple of Buckwheat Hull Pillows so I appreciate all
>the various address people have provided.  Before I order I have one
>simple question, how many pounds does it take to make one bed size pillow?
>I check out Martha Stewart's web site and direction are provided (which I
>didn't need) but no info on how much Buckwheat Hull was needed.  Her site
>has an address that sells 30lb bags, do I really need that much?

I saw Martha's show when she made the pillow. She said it took 4 pounds --
the pillow she made was bed size but I wasn't sure it was quite as large as
a standard pillow. I did not get the dimensions.

If you could share the ordering information I would like to order a large
bag to make several pillows. Can there be enough buckwheat hulls out there
to make as many pillows as wanted this year? We used to use buckwheat hulls
to mulch strawberries here in Iowa but apparently it is not grown locally
anymore. I can't find any hulls this year.

Neysa 
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:09:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Denim Quilt

I have seen people use different edge stitches on crazy quilt stuff and it
looks GREAT!  Like a feather stitch on some squares, zig zag on others, and
other patterns on others.  20" seems a little big..but it will probably look
great anyway.  Someone on the line was talking about using polarfleece for a
backing and said it turned out great...you wouldn't need a batting with that
and it may actually cost you less..fabricclub has 200 wt polartec for 6.35 a
yard in a variety of colors.  if you need to know their e-mail, just let me
know.  the quality is top notch and they deliver quickly.  good luck
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Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 13:02:56 -0500
Subject: Putting on Walking Foot

To follow up on Sue H's post about putting the feed dogs down when
putting on your walking foot . . . I have found that it's also much
easier to get the foot on if you move your needle to the far right
position first.  I have a 1230, but I assume it would help on other
models, too.

Laurie (and Harriet, my 1230)   
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 12:16:26 EST
Subject: Sewing Table

As both a cabinet maker and a sewer, I have made several wonderful sewing
cabinets, stands, and tables over the years.  My favorite (I''m embarassed to
say) is a simple portable typing table I bought from an office supply store
about 15 years ago.  I paid about $15 for it back then - today it's around
$25.  

Instead of the usual 30" height, it's only 26" high, perfect for sewing.  The
table size is roughly 18" X 30.  It has sturdy folding legs so it's easy to
store and transport.  I use it not only in my sewing room, but throughout the
house - outside on the patio, in the screen porch, in front of the big screen
TV, up on the second floor deck, out in the garden, in front of the fireplace
- - anywhere I can plug in.  

And it's the second thing I pack (the first, of course, is my 801) when I
travel.  One of my most enjoyable experiences is sewing with Mother Nature out
on the deck at our family's lake home in Northern Wisconsin at 6:00am with the
loons calling (actually, I think they are cooing over my exquisite handiwork
:-) ).  

Does anyone else sew outside or in various places?   It's a great experience
and very liberating, provided you can do without all those hundreds of gadgets
we all seem to need.  If you haven't tried it, please do. But limit yourself
to simple projects so it won't be frustrating.

Steve P  
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Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 05:10:18 -0700
Subject: Parking Garages

"Little Foot" based in Albuquerque also makes a great thread box.  I got
one with my new 180 and bought a second.  It sounds a lot like the toys at
WalMart though I haven't seen those yet.  It is a good sturdy see thru
plastic with lots of compartments, and lids that open on both sides.  It's
a little more expensive, but maybe sturdier?

Rita
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 10:05:50 -0600
Subject: Re: New 150

Hi Sandy, 
I too am new to this.  I purchased a 160 about 4 weeks ago, and I love
it.  It is so much easier to adjust/change stitches and tensions, etc. 
I have 18 stitches that can be changed and my understanding is that they
are changed for you free at your Bernina dealership.  I was advised
though that I should do a lot of 'playing' with it to see which stitches
I would NOT like to have and which ones I want to replace them.

Lois
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Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 21:45:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Burda Patterns

Bernina wrote:

> >Did I read this correctly? -- in the latest issue of Threads, there
> >was an article on Burda patterns and a statement made about the Burda
> >patterns that are in the monthly magazine are not the same as the
> >Burda patterns one would buy at the store.  Is this correct?  Liz
> >Powell, don't you get this magazine?  Can you tell me more about
> >this?  I have been hearing so much about Burda's superior fit but now
> >I don't know which ones they are talking about -- the ones in the
> >magazine or the ones in the store?

I read that to mean that the styles were different, that they were not
the same patterns, but that the fit etc. would be the same. I really
enjoyed that article, I once made a "See and Sew" pattern that I ended
up throwing away, the garment was easy to make, but not meant to be worn
by a human!
Milly
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Subject: stitch quality of 180
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:06:33 -0700
Hi,
I just got my new 180 yesterday. I also subscribed to the list yesterday. I 
would like to ask any of you who have the 180 to stitch out some of the little

animals. I have been putting my machine through its paces and am finding that 
the decorative stitches are not all stitching out without distortion. I had a 
1630 before and some of those stitches never were right. I want to make sure 
this machine is working. I have 30 days to return it. I probably wont use all 
those stitches but I want them all to work for the price of this machine they 
should. If it is a simple adjustment then no problem. Any input would be 
greatly appreciated.
Thanks Vickie  
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 07:06:43 EST
Subject: Re: 1630 & Buttonhole

Determine  your first buttonhole length . mark the begining and ending, start
your buttonhole at the begining and sew the first row to the end, STOP push
your reverse button ( which is just above the needle on the front ) and step
on the foot control it will continue to work the buttonhole and stop automatic
( wait until the needle stops) before removing and going to the next
buttonhole. Continue to the next buttonhole and it will be the same as the
first. The reverse button is the answer. Kay  
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:31:16 +0000#016#
Subject: Useful sewing book information wanted please.


Hi everyone

I have a friend who is coming to America and Canada from Friday onwards
and she is willing to buy a book for me, if I can give her a title.

I am interested in garment sewing, household sewing, making gifts and
crafts.  

I have a Bernina 1230 sewing machine (I would like one of the embroidery
machines one day).

I have a Frister and Rossman overlocker (serger).  Having had a Bernette
335 overlocker which never worked, so I had to trade it in.

I had a very nice book thanks to a kind lady on this list.  It is the
Polar Fleece Pizzazz book which has patterns in it ( I also have the
Serger Idea Book thanks to her).  I like books like the Polar Fleece
Pizzazz with patterns in them as we don't seem to be able to get them
here in England.  But I also like any sewing book with unusual ideas for
things to make.

I have an overlocker (serger) and I am interested in anything to do with
this.

The books that I have already are:

Serger Idea Book compiled by Ann Hesse Price 
ABCs of Serging by Tanny Young and Lori Bottom
Polar Fleece Pizzazz by Ruthann Spiegelhoff and Judy Laube

So if anyone has any ideas to give my friend on Friday, I would be
grateful to know them.

I would love to visit America and Canada one day, as everyone tells me
of the wonderful craft, sewing and book shops there.

I am sorry but this mail seems to have multiple addresses on it and I
cannot seem to delet them, so please excuse me if more than one copy of
it arrives on the list.

Bye for now, from dark England

Best wishes  

from

Andrea 
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 23:36:40 -0500
Subject: "New" 1230 Bernina

I am new to the group, but am enjoying it very much.  I didn't know it
existed until this week or I would have been on long before.  I have
owned a 930 since 1986 and think it is absolutely the best sewing machine
ever built by any company, anywhere.  I enjoy it very much!  

An opportunity arose this week for me to purchase a 1230 from a
dealer/repair person who had purchased it from the daughter of the
original owner who had passed away.  The dealer is an Elna dealer who is
very knowledgeable about sewing machines in general and is very familiar
with Berninas.  He serviced it and went over it with a fine-tooth comb
and said it looked like it had not been used very much.  He said the
original owner's home was immaculate and the machine had obviously been
very well taken care of.  The daughter who sold the machine (also Bernina
serger, cabinet, table) had absolutely no interest in sewing and had no
interest in the machines.

>From the price the dealer sold this mint condition 1230 to me, he must
have gotten it at a very good price from the daughter.  I am thrilled
with the machine.  I had never thought I would want a computerized
machine because I have always been leery of motherboards going out, etc.,
but when this opportunity presented itself, I couldn't say no.  I am
keeping my 930 (will never get rid of it).

Please excuse the long post, but I have some questions.  The daughter of
the original owner is looking through her mother's things for the manual
which was not with the machine when the dealer purchased it.  If she
can't find it, he is going to try to order one for me.  Have any of you
had experience ordering manuals/parts, etc. as consumers from Bernina? 
Will they send manuals or copies of manuals to consumers or do they have
to be obtained through a Bernina dealer?  I am in a hurry for the manual-
I can't do much without reading about the settings.  I want to know how
to program letters and numbers, but I don't want to mess something us
tryping to figure it out.  Also the screwdriver that you change the neede
with is missing from the attachment box.  I assume I can use the one from
my 930 - is that correct?

I have also heard/read that I should not use a magnet-type pin holder
near a computerized machine?  Is that correct?  I have two magnet pin
holders that I use constantly, but I will move them if I should.

I read in a recent post a message indicating that you should not use
metal bobbins with 10 holes, but they should only be  the ones with 7
holes because the ones with 10 holes can cause problems.  Please advise
the reason why and what the potential problems can be.  I have been using
bobbins with the 10 holes for years (I have lots of them) and have not
experienced any problems (that I am aware of), but certainly don't want
to have problems.

Thanks for your help and thanks to Sue for maintaining this wonderful
digest.


RC 
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 10:30:08 EST
Subject: Re: 1630 & Buttonhole

I cannot help you with the Buttonnoles. I am a quilter and clothing is not in
my  catalog of knowledge.
However, I am also a new Bernina owner and baught a 1630 Version 2 ( a used
one ....trade-in) In October of this year. The Version 2 has the Zodiac
designs in the embroidery collection that comes inthe machine memory from the
factory. The Version 3 (1996 as it is called an UPDATE 1996) has none of the
Zodiac stitches
as they were removed and replaced with automatic hand quilt look stitch and
several others. When you turn on your machine, go to the stitch selection
area....if you see Zodiacs then you have Version 2. Usually if the machine as
updated to 1996 Version 3 you would have a 1996 sticker  stuck onto the body
of the machine by the dealer when the update was done. I thinkan update costs
about 100.00 or so.. I am not sure I will do it as I am on a budget.....I got
my NINA for $1,400.00 from a NON Bernina dealer. I had to buy the walking foot
and 1/4 foot, but he threw in several more feet and bobbins and oil. I do wish
I had a Bernina Dealer , however. But the 1630's in the dealerships within 30
mileradus of my home all wanted 2,600.00 for that machine.
Enjoy your NINA and let me know which version you have.
PS...go to the www.Berninausa/com website and click on the FAQ section. There
you likely will find the Buttonhole info you need. I printed the FAQ pages out
to keep as a handbook as they also tell you how to set up the machine to do
the handlokk quilt stitch for tose who have Version 1 or 2 of the 1630. Get
back to me ....LOL, Marcia
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:11:04 EST
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 12/4/97)

To Karen  :
I've been sewing for almost 35yrs.  I can't believe I said that , but it's
true.  And I've never cleaned my machine feet with anything .  I've wiped them
off, or used my little lint brush that came with my machine.  But I've never
even had the thought of using anything abrasive on them.  Not even water.
Good luck, and keep sewing.
                                         Linda 
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Subject: Christmas Gifts

Hi all,

I have just been making out my list of gifts for Christmas and have been
racking (sp?) my brain for more ideas for gifts, when I came up with the
idea of making some scented pot stands.  The sort that are filled with
cinnamon or something similar.  I bought some a few years ago in the Shaker
Village in Canterbury, NH.  They had a faint aroma when they were cold, but
as soon as you put a warm pot on them, the aroma really increased with
beautiful smells.  Thinking about it, there was probably clover in there as
well, because it reminded me of Sunday afternoons at my grandmother's house
with baked apple pie!  I gave these as gifts and now have no possibility of
examining them.  I know how to make the pot stand but am not at all sure of
the spices to put in and in what form.  Has anyone ever done this before?
Can I use cinnamon stick and cloves as they come or should they be in a
different form?  Will they stain the fabric?  Would greatly appreciate some
advice.  Please e-mail me a.s.a.p.  - Christmas is only two and a bit weeks
away!!!!!  AHH!!!!

Laura  
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 23:49:34 EST
Subject: Re: 1630 & Buttonhole

In a message dated 97-12-06 10:07:51 EST, you write:

>> My question is (since I haven't had the classes yet) how do I do automatic 
 buttonholes? If I follow the instructions in the manual I get a buttonhole
the 
 size of the slide (3C foot) -- 1 inch+  long. The instructions in the manual 
 are for the 3A foot -- maybe that's the problem.= >>
Hi Susan--
To get the button holer to turn at the proper length, you need to push the
little U turn button just above and to the right of the needle.  It sounded
from your description that you were trying to use the one on the screen.  The
one on the screen is not the right button to push.
If your 1630 has the up-grades it should have a sticker on the back, saying
Upgrade 96 or whatever.  One other way to check--do you have the zodiac
designs built into the machine.  If they are not there, you have an up-grade.
Debbie  
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 07:19:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina 150

I purchased a Bernina 150 about six months ago after using a 910 for
thirteen years. My dealer said he would change the CPS stitches three times
in one year for free (I never did get them changed, however). The machine
runs very nicely but it makes a whirring sound that has driven me crazy. I
took it in to the dealer and he said there is nothing wrong with it; they
all do that. Well, I just couldn't stand it (I spend LOTS of time sewing)
and so I took the machine in to trade up to the 160. When I said that to
the dealer he started laughing at me. It would have cost me $500 to trade
up to the 160. For $800 I could trade up to the 170. Which is what I did.

I think the 150 is fine. Yours may not make that sound that drove me crazy.
What I love about the 150: down needle option (that is, actually the main
reason I gave up on the 910!), ease of stitch changes, power of a Bernina.
I made a Frostline Kit craft bag on the 150, sewing through heavy cordura
and vinyl and the machine did it easily.

Enjoy!

Abby 
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 07:23:02 -0500
Subject: Holographic Thread

Boy, when I come out of lurk mode, I just can't shut up!

When using the holographic thread, make sure you are using a vertical spool
holder (you didn't say what kind of machine you're using). If the thread is
pulled off a horizontal holder, it will twist and break. Also, you should
use regular thread in the bobbin, not the holographic. HTH

Abby 
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:56:06 -0500
Subject: 170 Help!!!!

Well, I picked up my 170 today, really excited, couldn't wait to get it
home. I had to teach a four hour doll class before I could actually come
home, however, so I kept my excitement in check.

Now I'm home and I find that the machine does not come with a real manual
(not yet). Nice vouchers for the manual, and the video, and a free upgrade
(I don't even know to what, yet), but for a person who didn't even have a
knee lifter before, I don't know how to use this machine! And I have at
least three projects in progress.

Now, do I have to wait for the lesson at my dealer or is there some way to
quick start this machine? I can always pull out my 910 or my Featherweight,
but I've been waiting to use the new toy! Advice????

Abby 
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 07:40:09 +1000
Subject: pattern

Linda
  I bought the boxer pattern with the panel in the back out of Keeksake
magazine.  The pattern was made by timberlane.
Timberlane's phone is 208 765 3353 ask for first choice boxers.
Laurel  
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Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 09:32:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Boxer Pattern

Bernina wrote:
> I am looking for a pattern for boxer shorts which have a single panel in the
> back. All the patterns I have found have a back seam.  Does anyone know of 
any?
> 
Don't know if this is what you're looking for or not...
I have a Timber Lane Press pattern # 404 'First Choice Boxers'.
Their phone # on the package is 208-765-3353.
There are 6 pieces to the pattern.
  1 front plackect
  2 front pieces
  2 side back pieces
  1 center back

The back seam is not in the center but there are 2 seams in the back -
one on either side so they are a bit baggy in the back.

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 |--------/  \--------|

      ^          ^
      |          |
      seams, backside view      

Cathy 
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Subject: Re: Embroidery Desings
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 18:06:54 -0500

As anyone been able to find embroidery designs compatible with the 180E
system on the www?  If so I would be interested in the sites.  I am really
interested in sites that contain cheerleading and wrestling.  

Laurie
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 07:21:08 -0500
Subject: Upgrading and Accessories

I just upgraded from the 150 to the 170 and my dealer has traded all my
feet for the new ones. He said Bernina is doing this for a limited time for
people who trade up. (I had bought about seven feet, including the walking
foot).

Abby 
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Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 05:10:30 -0700
Subject: New Embroidery Machine

JRosen wrote:

"The Bernina sews at a very slow rate, it takes a long time to do a design. 
I also think when it gets out of bobbin thread it doesn't beep, at least
that is what happened in the store today, and the machine kept sewing, so
the sewer has to find their place back somewhere because there is a big
half sewn space.  Those two things surprised me because I was really primed
to be charmed.  jr"

Are you talking about the new Artista 180 or a new embroider machine?  The
180 can be programmed to beep when the bobbin runs out, and can be backed
up stitch by stitch if you miss some when that happens.  Could be the
machine was also set at a slower speed.  You can adjust that too.  It just
takes a while to learn all those things.  Maybe the dealer didn't go to the
classes Bernina gave for their dealers?

Rita  
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 12:38:19 EST
Subject: Kenmore Bobbins

Mel -
I have a Kenmore from 1971 which uses the same size bobbins as all of my
Berninas (801, 1006, 1031).  I've also purchase generic bobbins from our local
sewing stores.  I have not noticed any difference using any of them.  I would
say, however, the "Bernina" brand bobbins are of a higher quality construction
and materials.

Incidently, this old Kenmore is going to stay with me for a long time.  It is
a quality mechanical machine (their TOL in 1971) with the best electronic
speed control I've ever experienced.  I wish my Berninas could operate at such
precise, slow and powerful speeds for precision work.  This one was made by
New Home and has the heavy precision feel of my Berninas.  It uses cams for
decorative work, but best of all, it does single thread chain stitching - you
replace the bobbin case with a looper.  This is great for doing muslin
patterns, basting, temporary stitching, etc.  It's so simple, I don't know why
other manufacturers haven't provided this.  My only complaints are the motor
is a bit noisy and the presser feet are no where near the quality of the
Bernina feet - if only there was an adapter to use them on my Kenmore, instead
of the other way around!!!

Steve P 
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:12:12 EST
Subject: Bernina 1020 for sale

I am selling my Bernina 1020 with all attachments, manual, and canvas cover.
Please e-mail me for details Karen
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Subject: 930 for sale
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 05:58:51 -0500

I have a Bernina 930 for sale.I would like to sell it to someone in Ohio if
possible.The machine is in excellent condition and has all the standard
feet and several extra feet as well as the walking foot attachment and lots
of bobbins.It has the carring case and extension plate to increase the
sewing surface...... I use my Bernina 1130 most of the time and just
purchased an embroidery machine, I am running out of space in my sewing
room.....E-mail if interested,thanks 
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 02:07:15 -0800
Subject: shameless plug for a book

First, apologies for the slightly commercial message.

If any of you pre-ordered "Montana Star Quilts" 2 years ago, you should be
getting your copies soon. A very good friend of ours, Linda Parker, finally
published "Montana Star Quilts". I'm pretty excited about it for a number
of reasons:

* I'm in the acknowledgements
* the quilt she made for us is on page 107!
* I did some very early editing on the book
* She's been working on this self-publishing project 20 years despite bouts of
unemployment and bureaucratic nonsense with the State of Montana
* 3 of her quilts are named after each of her kids

Unfortunately you probably won't see it in quilt stores because she doesn't
have a distributor. :(

I put info about the book & a picture of our Bitterroot Star quilt on my
web page  (http://www.sirius.com/~bbrazy).

If anyone wants to order a copy of the book, either ask your quilt shop to
order
from Montana Quilts Inc (406-449-3694) or send a check directly to Linda for
$30.95 (includes $4 shipping & handling). She doesn't take credit cards.

Montana Quilts Inc.
PO Box 165
Helena, MT 59624

- - Betsy  
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 04:53:13 EST
Subject: Re: Paper Piecing??

In a message dated 97-12-08 03:21:28 EST, you write:

>> I would like to purchase a good book on paper piecing.  I have made up 
 a few of the "Nanny Granny's" patterns.  I understand that Carol Doak
 has some books on this.  I want a good variety of patterns along with
 photos for suggested uses and colors, etc.  >>

My recommendation would be Easy Machine Paper Piecing by Carol Doak.

Joan  
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Subject: Re: Quick Make and Take Project
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:22:50 +0200

Hi there, 
I am intrigued, just what is a 'flip and sew girl?'
Margaret  
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Subject: Re: 1630 Update
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:21:20 +0200

Hi there, 	
The Entredeaux stitch you are looking for can be found in the G1 menu,
which refers to the stitches as Hem Stitches. they seem to have changed it
slightly, but i have used both G4 and G5 with good results.
Margaret  
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 21:35:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Sullivans spray

Two weeks ago I bought a can of Sullivans Quilt Basting Spray. I used it on
two different miniature Christmas quilts, and it works GREAT! No more pin
or thread basting for me. It was very easy to get the layers sandwiched
together, and they stayed perfectly in place through both machine and hand
quilting. It did not leave any stiffness to the quilt, nor did it "gook" up
on the needles.

My only lesson learned is to place some kind of protection over the area
you will be spraying your fabric on as the spray was not easy to remove
from the top of our chest freezer which is what I use for my working
surface.

Jan  
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 07:44:37 -0500
Subject: doll quilts

Does anoyone know of a good book on doll quilts?   Grace 
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:11:03 -0800 (PST)#005#
Subject: Re: Buckwheat Hull Pillows

Sally, I just recently purchased two buck-wheat pillows, it is GREAT!  I
have slept better in one month than I have in years, really.
I too am eager to make these pillows myself, the two that I bought have
approximately 3 pounds of buck-wheat hulls each.  They are very heavy,
although not very big, definately not the size of a bed pillow!  Mine are
about 10 X 14 inches in size.
The cover of the b-w pillow is a very nice, very high thread count white
cotton, similar to what you would find on any bed pillow.  I made pillow
slips from some interesting fabrics and used some pretty embroidery
stitches on the hem side, since I use it every night, I wanted to be keep
it clean and besides thats what I do .  I push my big old feather
pillow aside when I go to bed, and put it on the top of my b-w pillow when
I make the bed. You will love it, just remember not to make the covers so
tight that the b-w does not have a chance to spread out a little, otherwise
it will be too hard.  One of the pillow slips I made is a mite too small to
allow the pillow to spread out.

Lin  
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:11:03 -0800 (PST)#005#
Subject: Re: Buckwheat Hull Pillows

Sally, I just recently purchased two buck-wheat pillows, it is GREAT!  I
have slept better in one month than I have in years, really.
I too am eager to make these pillows myself, the two that I bought have
approximately 3 pounds of buck-wheat hulls each.  They are very heavy,
although not very big, definately not the size of a bed pillow!  Mine are
about 10 X 14 inches in size.
The cover of the b-w pillow is a very nice, very high thread count white
cotton, similar to what you would find on any bed pillow.  I made pillow
slips from some interesting fabrics and used some pretty embroidery
stitches on the hem side, since I use it every night, I wanted to be keep
it clean and besides thats what I do .  I push my big old feather
pillow aside when I go to bed, and put it on the top of my b-w pillow when
I make the bed. You will love it, just remember not to make the covers so
tight that the b-w does not have a chance to spread out a little, otherwise
it will be too hard.  One of the pillow slips I made is a mite too small to
allow the pillow to spread out.

Lin in San Diego
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:30:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 2000DCE 

My opinion re: 2000DCE / price / upgrade from 600
If you have a machine with differential feed that works reliably, I would
not get the 2000DCE for $1700. I have a 700D and a 2000DCE (different
residences.) First of all, I paid $1700 for the DCE 2 years ago.  The
conversion is inconvenient enough that you would never want to convert it
back and forth in the middle of one project and sometimes, you really need
to be able to do that.  The tension dials on the 006 should not be an
issue because you should know how to modifiy them for special projects,
and for standard midweight fabrics, basic balanced stitch, the settings
are pretty predictable.  I have a cheat sheet next to my 700D and my
2000DCE.  I would either look at the newest Bernina serger, the newest
Elna top of the line, or consider saving a bunch of money and buying the
009 cover stitch machine for $500. 

Barbara 
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Subject: "Anonymous" post of BFC
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:52:29 -0700

Here's my dilemma--the question I have is if anyone knows how to get the
smell of cigarette smoke out of small pieces of fabric.  I'm in a charm
swap, which I love, but the pieces always smell of cigarette smoke, even
though each person packages theirs individually in plastic bags.  I don't
want to offend any of the ladies in my swap (most, if not all, who are
readers of BFC) and I'm not on an anti-smoking crusade--I just want to know
if anyone has any suggestions.  Since I use the pieces for fusible
applique, I can't toss them in the dryer with a softener sheet; and since
they're so small, if I washed them there'd be nothing left.
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 08:28:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Shopping in Sacramento

Kathleen,
   I went to Sacrramento about a year ago with my sister. Didn't look 
into fabric shops,(only had 2 days).  A couple of things you must look 
into is the Jelly Belly Factory in Fairfield over by the Wal-mart store. 
 They have tours and you can see how the jelly beans are made. You can 
also buy what they call "Belly Flops" which are the jelly beans that 
don't pass inspection. Also the Napa Valley Wine Train in Napa. It was 
wonderful!!! If you like wine this is a must!! The food is out of this 
world!  Now would be a great time to go because they are all set for 
Christmas. Reservations are needed for the wine train. Phone # 
1-800-427-4124. For the Jelly Belly Factory it's 707-428-2838.  Old 
Sacramento is a must see also! Lot's of shops. Good luck with your move! 
Cork  
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:40:18 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Bobbins

Melody,

Kenmore machines with a 158 prefix were made by a Japanse Co. called 
JIC.  If you call the Sears 800 number ( I don't remember if it's the 
parts and accessories no. or which, but they could probably direct you to 
the right no.), they will tell you who made the machine from the serial 
no. prefix.
 
Lori  
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 12:55:38 EST
Subject: Re: "Dirty Feet"

Karen,
  Are these dirty feet ON your machine, or do you have them stored somewhere?
For the feet NOT on the machine, I would recommend using a soft, lint-free
cloth. ( or even a paper towel). For feet ON the machine, and, the machine
itself, get one of those attachments sets for your vacuum cleaner ( They are
made for computer equipment), and vacuum the whole thing. (DON"T forget to do
under the throat plate, and in the bobbin area. You'd be surprised at HOW MUCH
lint, etc collects there!)
Also, don't forget to give your machine a wiping-down with a soft cloth,
either. Both of these measures will go a long way toward keeping your 'Nina in
tip-top shape. also, don't neglect its' annual check-up!

                 Vicki 
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 08:37:59 ES
Subject: Re:  Burda Patterns

Hi!

Does someone have an address from the Burda Magazine so that a subscription
could be requested?

Thanks,

VonnieK
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 09:55:32 +0000
Subject: denim quilts

While I have never made a denim quilt myself, last month I put a sleeve on a
denim lap quilt for a friend. I will tell you that that quilt was extremely
heavy. Before you even worry about batting, see how much the top weighs. You
don't want the recipient to get under the covers and lose all circulation.

Also, quilting the thing may not be so easy. I broke several needles, regular
and jeans, when sewing the sleeve on the back.

As for block size, you can make blocks whatever size strikes your fancy. Its
your quilt.

Robbi 
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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 11:06:09 +0100
Subject: Christmas gifts

Hi all,

I have just been making out my list of gifts for Christmas and have been
racking (sp?) my brain for more ideas for gifts, when I came up with the
idea of making some scented pot stands.  The sort that are filled with
cinnamon or something similar.  I bought some a few years ago in the Shaker
Village in Canterbury, NH.  They had a faint aroma when they were cold, but
as soon as you put a warm pot on them, the aroma really increased with
beautiful smells.  Thinking about it, there was probably clover in there as
well, because it reminded me of Sunday afternoons at my grandmother's house
with baked apple pie!  I gave these as gifts and now have no possibility of
examining them.  I know how to make the pot stand but am not at all sure of
the spices to put in and in what form.  Has anyone ever done this before?
Can I use cinnamon stick and cloves as they come or should they be in a
different form?  Will they stain the fabric?  Would greatly appreciate some
advice.  Please e-mail me a.s.a.p.  - Christmas is only two and a bit weeks
away!!!!!  AHH!!!!


Laura 
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 08:52:02 EST
Subject: Re: Paper Piecing??

Carol Doak has several wonderful books on Paper Piecing. Published by That
Patchwork Press: Easy Machine Paper Piecing is my favorite.
- --ellen 
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Subject: Machine wanted
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 22:20:28 -0800

I wnat to purchase a used for a 1230 or 1260 if any of you want to sell.
Please E me privately.

DeAnn & her 830 
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Subject: Re: Denim Quilt
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 08:46:01 -0800

I would recommend putting a polyester batting in the quilt.  Also suggest
that you join the blocks together using the same overlapping technique that
you used in piecing them.  Are you planning to quilt or tie the quilt?  The
eyelet stitch makes an excellent quilt tie.

If you are planning to tie the quilt, then recommend using a batting that
has been bonded so it won't shift.

Carol 
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:08:47 EST
Subject: Re: Binding Foot?

I have a Bernina 1030 which I love to use and am thinking about purchasing a 
foot that will do binding on clothing.  I would appreciate some comments about
using this foot and whether I purchase  just a foot or need other attachments
for it.
I always look forward to reading about Bernina on this list.  I live on the
Eastern Shore of Virginia and usually have to travel a long way to get
information and practical advice.  It's great to turn on the computer and feel
connected.

Kai+ 
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 22:22:03 -0600
Subject: 830 for Sale

I have a Bernina 830 for sale. It is a one-owner machine, with all
original feet, accessory box, instruction manual, slide-on portable
table, and carrying case.  It has just been serviced.  If you are
interested, please e-mail me privately.
Teresa 
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 15:12:58 EST
Subject: Re: Miami Store?

In a message dated 97-12-07 06:31:34 EST, you write:

>>
 Do any list members from the Miami area have recommendations as to fabric,
 quilt or wearable art-type stores to visit? I'll be in North Miami for a
 weekend in mid-December and just wanted to find out if there was anything
 that shouldn't be missed! Thanks.
 Maggi
 __ >>


Miami is not so great for fabric/sewing stores, unfortunately.  The Quilt
Scene on US 1 in the South Miami area is very good, friendly and knowledgeable
both about quilting and about Berninas, which they sell and service.  However,
it is the only really good quilt shop in the county, as far as I know.  There
is Jo-anns and Fabric King, but those are not the same quality, of course.
For dressmaker fabrics, there is Abrams Fabrics on Biscayne Boulevard north of
downtown Miami, and Isa Couture Fabrics, which caters to the couture trade and
has beautiful, expensive fabrics, but which is in a crummy neighborhood (but
does have a fenced parking lot).  Since you are going to be in North Miami,
there may be people out there who can point you to places in southern Broward
County thay may be worth a trip.  Have fun.

Pam 
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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 13:38:03 -0600
Subject: Nancy's notions

Though agreeing that NN is a good store with good service - I found when I
compared prices that Softwear Productions in Chciago is still cheaper for
all the things I checked, even factoring in sales tax and s and h and
allowing for NN not charging shipping at the moment.
        No affiliation - just a customer.
        Bronwyn 
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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 11:51:32 -0700
Subject: Re: Nursing Nightgowns

> Does anyone know of a source for a pattern for nursing nightgowns.

Elizabeth Lee designs http://snj.com/eldesigns/index.htm has two nursing
nightgowns, I think.  I have made one of these, and it turned out really
nice.  They also have a lot of other neat patterns for nursing.  I've got
six children, and have ordered from them several times, and the patterns
come within a few days, it seems.  Good luck.

Kathy
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 21:08:39 EST
Subject: Re: 2500DCE

What's the going rate for a 2500DCE?

Didi 
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Subject: Re: Nursing nightgowns
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 19:43:03 -0800

>>Does anyone know of a source for a pattern for nursing nightgowns.  I
can find a pattern for nursing shirts (with the flap) but my daughter
wants the nightgowns with openings in the front darts.   Thanks. >>

Elizabeth Lee Designs has a pattern for one.  Go to:
http://www.snj.com/elddesigns/mompats.htm

Carol 
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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 18:40:22 -0700
Subject: Bernina/Pfaff

I have a Pfaff 1475 and a Bernina 1260QPE (as well as a Bernina 930).  I love 
them all and wouldn't put down the Pfaff by saying that no one would like it
if 
they'd only sewed on a Bernina.  This is NOT SO.  The Pfaff is better for in 
the ditch or straight line quilting because the built in even feed foot is
much 
less cumbersome than the Bernina walking foot.  For free motion quilting, both

machines have advantages.  For metallic thread the Bernina works better
because 
of the vertical spool.  Sometimes with some threads the Pfaff works
better--who 
knows why . The Bernina has a better buttonhole and I like the mock 
handquilting stitch and buttonhole stitch.  On the other hand, the Pfaff's 
"extra" stitches are more interesting to me. I originally got the 1475 because

I couldn't lift the Berninas after  shoulder surgery.  I have a Brother 
embroidery machine, so that wasn't important to me. Also, I am one of those
who 
dislike the kneelift.  I've  TRIED over and over but find it a pain to use. 
(Yes, it's adjusted correctly, I just don't find it useful FOR ME---know
others 
feel differently!) All I care about is needle down which both machines have. I

repeat, both of these are good machines.  Please don't put down the Pfaff just

because it's not a Bernina.  It really is possible for more than one brand to 
be good.  I wouldn't give up either of them.

Feenix 
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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 16:40:34 -0800
Subject: 1230-1260 Price

How much should a used 1230 or 1260 cost? Also does anyone know where I
can find a 009DCC Coverstitch/chainstitch machine for less than $500.

- -- 
Debra 
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:33:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Artista 180 Embroidery Box

I was just at my dealer's and ask the same question. The answer was that she
didn't think they'd come out with one. The nylong one for the 1630 was $80
and maybe there just isn't much of a market for one.  I plan to try making a
ballistic nylon (now that I've got all this sewing equipment, I might as
well put it to good use!) that the foam (which I think we need to hang on
to) will fit in.  Maybe after Christmas. . .
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:04:23 +0000
Subject: Boyfriend Sewing

Bernina wrote:
> Before the dust settled, the 9 year old
> had made a pillow with facial features sewed on, and the 17 year old had
> sewed 16 legs on an 8 sectioned caterpillar critter.

So I am wondering......how did the girlfriend like the caterpillar?  Was
she shocked and impressed that her boyfriend would actually SEW her
something?

At that age, I would have been thrilled to get something like that from
a guy.
Come to think of it, I would be thrilled at ANY age!

Bravo!
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 22:22:59 -0600
Subject: pe-100 For Sale

Hi all...I have a gently used pe-100 for sale for $1000.00.  Needless to
say I want the 180.  Included in that price is the large hoop and 2
menory cards, #1(the alphabet) and #2(floral).  I have 4 other cards
that I will sell for $50.00 each.  If you are interested e-mail me at
ewatkins@bayou.com.  Happy Holidays, Connie  
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 22:19:32 -0700
Subject: Re: Artista 180 Embroidery Box

Micki wrote:

"Does anyone know whether BOA is designing a sturdier carrying case for the
embroidery unit?  Has anyone found a suitable replacement box for the "box"
which BOA provided us?? " 

and Lana wrote:  "Maybe  Bernia will come up with a case
for a few more hundred dollars :'( "
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 22:39:10 -0500
Subject: My New 1230

Can you folks stand a few more questions about my "new" 1230 I got over
the weekend?  This is my first venture into computerized sewing machines,
so please bear with me.

What is a good thread for monogramming?  I want to monogram some of my
husband's pinpoint oxford shirts with the alphabet stitch.  Please
recommend the best thread to use.

How do some of you make your own labels using the alphabet stitch?  What
kind of fabric do you use, etc?

A few weeks ago when I was visiting my mother in Atlanta, we went into a
discount fabric shop that had spools of Metrosene quilting thread at 4
spools for $1.00.  The colors were mostly bright (red, green, yellow,
etc.).  I passed it up because it said "Quilting thread" and I did not
know about using it in my machine.  The cashier said she used it in her
machine, but I did not go back and get any.  Then over the weekend I was
in a sewing machine shop and saw the same thread for $2.05 a spool and a
sign that read "For hand quilting or for use in sewing machine".  So now
I want to know if any of you have used it in your machines and how does
it work?  Do you use it in the machine  for anything other than quilting?
 What about topstitching?   I may be near the store again soon and would
like to get some (if there is any left) and try it.

Do you know of a plastic bobbin for the Bernina machines?  I was given
one with the 1230 I bought and it fits, but is it wise to use them?  I
also don't know what kind it is or where to find more.

Can someone give me an idea of how much the 1230 sold for when it was the
current top-of-the line machine a few years ago?  I would like to tell my
husband so he can appreciate the wonderful bargain I got in the 1230 I
just bought over the weekend.

I hope I can make this question clear.  My presser feet from my 930 will
not ift my 1230, but the feet from the 1230 will fit the 930.  I have
several extra feet that I bought for my 930 that I use often and am
disappointed that I can't use them on my 1230.  On my 930, I use a
generic buttonhole foot with the little templates and attach it to my
machine with an "adaptor" called the Extension Foot (short) #315.187.03
made by Bernina.  On the foot there is a small number - 19.  I bought
this in 1986.  I have recently seen adaptors in Nancy's Notions and in
Clotilde catalogs that are described as "adaptors for use on Bernina
machines".  Is this going to be the correct adaptor so I can use the
generic feet on my 1230?   Is my Bernina Extension Foot described above
only for use on the 930?  It will not fit the 1230.   I hope this is not
too confusing, because I need an answer.  How can I know that the
adaptors advertised in the catalogs will fit my 1230?  Is the Bernina
Standard Adaptor (Foot #75) the correct adaptor for the 1230?  Also does
anyone have any presser feet they want to sell that fit the 1230?  I want
a walking foot,  an edge stitch foot, and a button sew-on foot.  Are
generic feet ok to use if I can get the correct adaptor?

Last question - I vaguely recall seeing mention of a source in New Jersey
(I think) for sewing machines/accessories at discount prices.  Will I
find Bernina presser feet there?  Can anyone tell me where it is and a
phone number.

Please forgive the long post, but I really appreciate any help you can
give me.  Thanks so much - I love this digest.
 
RC 
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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 07:42:52 -0800
Subject: Re: Clotilde

Hi,

I don't order from Clotilde anymore but for a different reason.  I have
noticed that a few of the items in the catalog are jacked up just a
little and then you get the 20% off of that price.  For instance I saw a
book that had $10.50 as the suggested retail in Clotilde but in every
other mail order source I get (and I am on several mailing lists) the
price was listed at $10.00.  I noticed this same discrepancy on several
items so I don't really trust thier prices.  Also, a couple of years ago
someone on this list mentioned about Clotilde not paying a commission on
a quilt that was photography but I don't know if that is true or not.
A few places I have found that I like ordering from are Nancy's Notions
and also Softwear Productions.  The web page for Softwear is
http://www.softwearproductions.com/  I have a catalog from Hancococks of
Paducah and I really love their prices but have not had a chance to
order from them yet.  

Kay
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Subject: The Fabric Club
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 04:13:17 +1100

This is my first posting to the list, but I noticed a comment recently about
the Fabric Club, and I felt I should add my 2c worth to the topic. I wasn't
sure which of the three lists that I subscribe to that it was on, so I'm
posting it to all three. First and foremost, the usual stuff, I have
absolutely no interest whatsoever in the company, but I am a very satisfied
customer indeed.  Secondly, I am the mail order QUEEN, so I have done heaps
of mail order over the years, and I have had a wide range of experience
dealing with various companies.

Having said that, dealing with the Fabric Club has been an extremely
positive experience for me. Aside from the prices being completely insanely
low, (like Malden Mills Polarfleece 100, 200 and 300 wts for $6.25/yd, FIRST
quality !!), I have also found the company to be efficient, courteous, and
with a genuine desire to help.  The quality of their fabrics is GREAT !! Oh,
and I forgot to say that I'm ordering from Australia !!  I received their
first lot of samples about two weeks after I requested them, a very
reasonable time given that they had to travel from Atlanta to Sydney !!
Subsequent samples arrive quarterly, without me having to request them
again. These people want my business, and they lean over backwards to get
it. Even with shipping and the exchange rate, I find I can get my goods much
cheaper than I can buy them here in Oz, plus they have these extended hours
that you can ring them (which suits me fine, given the 16 hour time
difference), and I find I can ring them at 12noon Monday Sydney time, which
is 8pm Sunday night US time, and Caryn, the owner will answer the phone and
take my order.  She told me that she recently took an order at 1am !

Anyway, I can't recommend this company highly enough, it ranks right up
there with Lands End as my mail order favourite. ;-))  They have a website
with some amazing fabrics scanned on, check out http://www.fabricclub.com
and while you're there, have a look at their News page, it has all the
polartec colours listed there.

Celia
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Date:    Mon, 08 Dec 97 13:04 HST
Subject: Metalic thread accomodations???

I saw someone with a vest that had Christmas trees appliqued on it
with gold metalic thread.  Then there were a couple of decorative
stitches sewn across the bottom tier of the tree - like a garland
trim.  One was a series of stars or flowers and the other was a
scallop.  I think both of these decorative stitches are on most
Bernina machines.  She said her sister had made it - and remarked
that sewing with metallic thread required SEVERAL adjustments to
ones machines.  I suspect it needs a special needle - but what
else would I need to do?  She thought it might need bobbin case
tension adjustment - which makes me think I should buy an extra
bobbin case so I don't make changes for my normal sewing.  Does
someone have a "to do" list for this type of sewing?  I'd love
to try what she did on the vest - on the front of a t-shirt or
sweat shirt.
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 17:30:24 +0000
Subject: Have 2000DCE for sale

If anyone is looking for an "almost new" 2000DCE serger/cover stitch
machine, I have one that I'll part with at a very modest price.  I have
used it very little.  But when I was going to sell my quilt shop and
dealership, I decided to get the 2500DCE for myself.  I don't really
have use for two - especially if someone out there is just "pining" for
one (they are super machines!).  For details, email me 
Also, I have - still in the boxes - an Arrow oak-finish sewing cabinet
with work-space caddy with drawer and side-mounted serger extension.
Since I've decided to re-do my sewing room with built-ins, I can't use
this cabinet.  Email me if you are interested.
Donna 
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:54:51 EST
Subject: Re: Paper Piecing??

Jerry Sue--

I highly recommend Carol Doak's books .  I  find them complete with easy to
follow directions.  And once, when I had a question about fabrics and such on
her reversible vest book, I e-mailed her and received a very nice reply within
24 hours.  

Mary 
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 15:03:29 +0100
Subject: Re: Artista 180 Embroidery Box

Hello Rita,
I read your information on the luggage bags for your new 180 and Embroidery
Module.  I have a Bernina dealership in Springfield, MO and would love to
contact your dealer for info on ordering these for my customers.  Could you
please share this with me privately at ndavis@getonthe.net  -  I surely
would appreciate it!
Martha in the Ozarks
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Subject: Re: New 150
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:43:30 -0600

>I am new to the list, as I just bought a Bernina 150 w/12 cps stitches
>that can be changed. This is my first Bernina and I would like to know
>if anyone else had the 150 or 160 and do you like it. Also, how much
>does it cost to have the computer stitches
>changed?
>Thank you,
>Sandy 

Sandy,

I have had a 150 for a few months now and I'm impressed with it.  However,
be careful when tightening the needle holder with the little screwdriver
supplied.  I tightened mine too hard and the bit that holds the screw broke
off and I had to have my machine sent back to have the part replaced.
Fortunately, my shop loaned me their demo model to use while mine is away.
I had only had my machine about a month when this happened.

Changing the stitch programs is free, and you can do it as many times as you
like.  I'm planning to take off most of the decorative stitches, since I use
my machine almost exclusively for clothing construction.

Anita 
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Subject: Re: Dealer
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 17:27:54 -0700

Dear Sandy,

>I am very upset with my Bernina dealer
> Has anyone else
>had trouble getting *free* promised items from their
>dealers?

ME!  I know what good Bernina dealers are like, so a mediocre or bad one is
a PET PEEVE. My local dealer is pitiful but what choice do I have? One of
the best dealers in the country is three and a half hours drive away which
is nearly impossible to get to during winter months.

I haven't yet received the "new Owner" instructional classes from my serger
purchase over two years ago. They finally have a new teacher, but after
seeing her in action in the "new owner" class for sewing machines, I think I
could do a better job. I want to know all the inside information and tricks
for using my Bernina serger, but I can tell this lady knows very little. All
she can do is try to sell more Bernina products or advise putting the
machine in the shop because she can't figure out how to adjust the machine
in class.

Sigh.

There is no better machine than Bernina so you are still better off but I
don't know what to say about the poor dealership. Most Bernina dealers are
absolutely fantastic founts of information and worth their weight in gold.

Dawn  
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Subject: Sanibel Florida Quilt Shop
Date: Tue,  9 Dec 97 18:50:14 EST

Hi Marcia:  The quilt shop of which I'm sure you must be speaking is "Three
Crafty Ladies" on Sanibel Island.  Yes, I have been there several times.  The
only problem is that because they are mainly a craft shop (albeit a good one)
they have a very small selection of fabrics.  What they do carry, however, is
top drawer.  I just have found in the past that they don't have what I want, 
and because there isn't a lot of "quilt" traffic, their fabrics last year were
pretty much what they had the previous year.  I did find that Fabric Mart in 
Ft. Myers and in Naples was a help.  Again, they had a limited selection but
it  was all excellent.  There was also a brand new shop in Ft. Myers which was 
mostly "primitive and country" type fabrics...not my interest, but it was a 
cute little shop.  Have you ever been to Rainbow's End in Dunedin?  
Wonderful!!! But a long, long ride for either of us!  Thanks.  Dennie 
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 16:30:13 -0500
Subject: My Face is Red!

Boy do I feel stupid! Yes, I bought the 170 and got it home and freaked out
when I saw no big fat manual. Well, the machine itself IS a manual!!! The
help screens and tutorials and sewing consultant tell me everything I need
to know. I am THRILLED that I traded in my 150 for the 170 and it only cost
me an additional $800. I am a happy camper!!!!!! If anyone wants 170
testimonials, just ask. Now, I'm going to sew!


Abby 
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:11:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: YLI Woolly Nylon...

Hi there!!

I have ordered woolly nylon from Nancy's notions--www.nancysnotions.com

They have a pretty decent selection of colors...

Hope this helps...

Helen  
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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 08:53:44 -0600
Subject: Re: Bobbins - AGAIN

Bernina wrote:

> Someone posted that the Bernina 930 uses the same bobbins as the Singer
> Featherweight. I assume you are referring to the NEW "Featherweights". The
> old, vintage Featherweights use a flatter bobbin than the new ones and I am
> pretty sure this would not fit in any Bernina!!!! Be careful!

> 
> Abby

There's at least one Bernina that uses Featherweight bobbins - I have
the 950 and use old Singer featherweight bobbins, yes the big flat
ones.  My Singer 301A uses the same ones, in fact I use the Bernina to
fill bobbins for the 301A - it's much faster.

Susan  
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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 10:50:56 -0700
Subject: Re: 180

Bernina wrote:

> I have another beef....owners manuals, probably written by engineers.
>  I have redesigned our Bernina classes to include some techniques
> from the owners manual, from the AGW, from Sewing Service Leaflets,
> & just things I've learned along the way.  I've observed how excited
> people get when they can see the possibilities of what they can do on
> their machines....not just how it works.  For months this year I
> finally worked on making a workbook that my students could use to
> keep all their samples from class and have all the techniques
> documented for later reference.  The book is done now & it ended up
> being 56 pages long, for every model of machine including the new
> ones.  My students really liked it, so I decided to send a copy to
> Bernina.  Now they want to advertise it for me to all their dealers &
> I feel like I'm in over my head.  But, I figure...who knows? maybe it
> will be well recieved & it seems like I shouldn't pass up the
> opportunity.  A friend of mine is making me a flyer, I've got
> business cards, and hopefully some other teachers will see the
> benefit of having the class book as a guide & reference.  If any of
> you see it in the months to come, let me know what you think.  Thanks.
>
> Kristine 

   Please share on how a new owner of a Bernina can get a copy of this
workbook.  Also thanks for doing a lot of leg work in making a user
friendly workbook.  Kay  
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Subject: Trying to find Laura
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:14:59 -0500

Will Laura  please e-mail me? I have a question for you. Your address was left off a post on the 12/5 digest.
Marya 
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 06:56:22 -0800
Subject: buckwheat hulls

Does anyone have the address for the company who manufacturers buckwheat
hulls?  It is in Livermore, CA. TIA  gonnie
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:28:47 EST
Subject: 180

I picked up my 180 on 12/5/1997 and have had some time to play with the
machine. I think when referring to speed of sewing Bernina is referring to the
speed the machine embroiders, which is slower than the Deco 600 more like the
speed of the Deco 500.

My Bernina Dealer gave me a nylon type of carrying case for the embroidery
unit.

Vouchers for video and manual and an upgrade were included.  I am anxiously
waitng for the software.  I have the Deco 500 with software which I chose to
keep because I can resize the designs in the Artista software and stitch
smaller designs on the Deco and larger designs on the Artista.

Be patient if you have a good dealer, as I do, as soon as manuals, videos,
etc. become available you will or should get what you need.

I was one of the customers that purchased the 1630 sight unseen and had the
same experience.  Vowed to take a wait and see attitude but just couldn't
wait.

Natalie
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 08:17:19 -0500
Subject: Nancy's Notions..

Regarding your comment in the BFC list I received this morning..

>I wish they had an online order form for the video club as well!


Use their on-line "tell us" (or whatever they call it) facility and write
them a note.  I did and got a very nice reply.. "a thank you for the
suggestion".. and a "we're going to do it", too!  They seem to be
listening.


Trudi 
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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 22:13:53 +0000
Subject: Re: "Dirty Feet"

I also clean my 1230 before every project and often during an big hoo-hah.
Libby Lehman taught us to put machine oil on a q-tip and use it to clean
around the bobbin case area..it's amazing how much lint comes out.  The oil acts as a wick attracting the lint, and it lubricates the bobbin mechanism at the same time.

Bev  
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 02:17:52 EST
Subject: Re: Quilt Stitch

Double check on the placement of the monofilament thread....I think it is to
be placed  on the bobbin and the regular thread on the top spindle. Go to the
FAQ section of the BERNINAUSA  website.....click on FAQ and you will find the
section that explains how to adjust each machine for the QUILT STITCH  and the
type of threads to use.
Good luck and Happy Holiday!
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Subject: RE: Including Location on Closure 
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 06:01:12 -0700

The Internet is a WORLD WIDE tool, and I'm sure everyone should include this.

15 days to Santa Comes
Linda  
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Subject: Re: 1260
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 06:07:42 -0600

Hi Christine, 
Let's go on just for fun and so I can understand. A BFC'er asked if a 1260
is a computer. My dealer said it is an electronic machine. I think it is a
"computerized" machine which means - to me anyway - that it has memory
chips. Is this what you mean by computerized? Or have I lost all my memory
chips????
Regards, LIDA
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 06:08:56 EST
Subject: Re: Speaking of Parts

I posted the information about the bobbins which was incorrect. I assumed that
the 930 had the same bobbin as the 950 ,which I own. Apparently they take a
different bobbin.Sorry to have confused anyone. The 950 does have the same
bobbin as the Featherweight, the narrow one.I have many of them as well as the
narrow Bernina metal ones. Jill
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 19:23:23 EST
Subject: Re: Artista 180 Embroidery Box

Hi,

I am going to look at the 180E tomorrow.  It is a 70 Mile (one-way) trip and I
want to make sure I know what questions to ask.  I am also nervous about
buying a machine with the dealer so far away.  I work 2 jobs now and it is
hard to find the time to go.  Should I be considering the 180E or is there a
more practical machine that will do just as well?

TIA,
julie
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:34:27 EST
Subject: 1031 Wanted

I am looking to purchase one of these machines in great condition if anyone is
selling.  Thanks
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:58:09 EST
Subject: Re: New 150

I had a 160 that I bought in August and traded in on a floor sample 1630 in
November.  I was told by my dealer that the software to make the stitch
changes to the 160 (even though the video that came with the machine said that
you would be able to do it yourself) would not be available to customers due
to the high cost of the software and due to the fact that you have to get
inside the head of the machine to hook into the computer port and that would
void your warranty.  They did change my stitches for me for free.  They would
have done it once or twice more before they started charging for the service,
they said.

I traded because I never liked the "feel" of the 160 after using a 1090 and a
1260 in the store but I, too, thought the stitch-changing capability would be
great.  After I bought the 160 I found out that I would not be able to
purchase the software so I decided to get the 1630 because it was the only
"new" machine they had left at the store in the discontinued lines.  My dealer
does not seem to offer very good warranties on used machines that are
purchased at the store for some reason and it's the only one within 1 and 1/2
to 2 hours from me. 

Helen  
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:21:31 EST
Subject: Re: Hancock Paducha

Address for Hancock's of Paducha

http://www2.hancocks-paducah.com/hancocks/default.html

I have had a Bernina 1230 for about 8 years and I LOVE it!  Am considering
getting one of the new machines that are coming out now.  Any suggestions as
to which one.  I do a lot of decorative clothing type sewing.  Some quilt
piecing, but not too much anymore.

Brenda
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 08:00:10 +0100
Subject: Re: 1530 Price

Hello Teresa,
Yes, the price quoted for the 1530 is very good.  This model has so many
wonderful advantages that you cannot have with your 830 that I think you
would fall in love with it right away.  About the slanted straight stitch -
usually this is a result of the wrong size needle for the thread diameter
and alot depends on whether you were sewing on a single thickness or double
thickness of fabric.  Other than that, I would vote YES!!  This is the
model I have at home and it is truly amazing and very dependable.
Martha  
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 08:39:32 EST
Subject: Re: Hancock Paducha

HANCOCKS WEBSITE IS; http://www2.hancocks-paducah.com/hanoccks/
Have a Merry time.Marcia
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Subject: Bernina 1530 lights

     HI, I just bought my first Bernina 1530 over the internet and when I 
     received it the two lights by the needle do not work. What do I do? I 
     don't want a $70.00  repair bill before I have even sewed on the 
     machine. The computer lights come on and the machine runs I just can't 
     see where to stitch. I have pushed on the button on the back of the 
     machine but that didn't help. I also wanted to know if anyone had a 
     walking foot or quater inch foot for sale.
     Thanks Kathy
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Subject: Software Classes
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 08:23:07 -0500

Greetings from Ohio,

I am a dedicated Bernina/Deco fan with a fantastic Amish couple (these
people are on the cutting edge for technological support for their
customers) for Bernina dealers--Chestnut Ridge Sewing in Berlin, Ohio. 
Together with a technician for Bernina, we have figured out a way to teach
classes on the Bernina software for the Deco at least (I don't see any
reason why the Artista should be any different).  

Anyone interested in the method can e-mail me privately as I still need to
check this out with the dealer about what is needed from Bernina in the way
of legal permission, etc. 

Sincerely, Linda
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Subject: Software Classes
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 08:23:07 -0500

Greetings from Ohio,

I am a dedicated Bernina/Deco fan with a fantastic Amish couple (these
people are on the cutting edge for technological support for their
customers) for Bernina dealers--Chestnut Ridge Sewing in Berlin, Ohio. 
Together with a technician for Bernina, we have figured out a way to teach
classes on the Bernina software for the Deco at least (I don't see any
reason why the Artista should be any different).  

Anyone interested in the method can e-mail me privately as I still need to
check this out with the dealer about what is needed from Bernina in the way
of legal permission, etc. 

Sincerely, Linda
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:20:56 -0700
Subject: Re: Buckwheat Hull Pillows

I'm pretty new on the list and missed the beginning of the discussion on
the buckwheat hull pillows.  Could someone email me privately with the
internet site or whatever I need to get instructions for this?  I don't get
to see Martha Stewart either so I would need directions.

Thanks,
Rita 
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 20:37:50 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Long Island fabric and/or quilt shops

Over the holidays, I'll be heading to the folks' on Long Island (Stony
Brook - North Shore, Suffolk County), and would love to be able to visit a
good shop or two while there.  I've never been able to find any shops
(other than poor quality chains) on previous visits. I'd be happy to drive
just about anywhere on the Island for a good shop.  Thanks in advance
for any information you could send my way :-)							
				
Amy  
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:17:56 EST
Subject: Re: Houston, TX

NinaSue,

If you like Bernina's you need to check out the Bernina shop on 1960 east in
Humble.  It is called It's A Stitch.  Multi-line dealer, quilt shop, patterns,
classes, books, etc.  I must see shop. 
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:38:34 -0500
Subject: 170 and 180

As the very happy owner of a new 170 (I seem to be the only one on the
list!) I think the major differences between it and the 180 are: 180 has
many directional stitching (16 directions, I think) the 170 does not have
this. Also the hook mechanism is different. Other than that, they are
pretty much the same; the 180 may have a few more stitches or more
alphabets too.

I also got the "voucher" for a manual, but I've found the on-screen help to
be quite helpful. I can do all the basics and am counting on the classes to
help with the rest.

HTH,

Abby 
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:18:37 EST
Subject: Re: Useful sewing book information wanted please

Andrea:  There is another book called More Polar Fleece Pizzazzz.  Another
neat little book is Napkin Creations by Gail Brown.

Happy Holidays.
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Subject: Artista 180
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:32:39 -0500

I did notice something I thought was quirky with the 180 embroidery. If I
need to search to a different color, the machine stops at the END of the
color.  So when I press start, it moves to the next color. To compensate, I
search to the color before the one I actually need. Anyone else have this
"bug-ette?"

Donna W 
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:30:18 -0400
Subject: nursing nightgowns

Does anyone know of a source for a pattern for nursing nightgowns.  I
can find a pattern for nursing shirts (with the flap) but my daughter
wants the nightgowns with openings in the front darts.   Thanks.

- --A great source is the Elizabeth Lee catalog.  She sells great patterns
for clothes for nursing moms, including gowns with openings in the darts.
You can order her catalog from her Web site at:
http://www.snj.com/eldesigns/

- --Jennifer, an expectant mom with WAY too many projects to complete before
the baby comes!
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Subject: Artista 180 Manual
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:28:42 -0500

>And have gotten in quite a few hours of practice already.  My biggest
disappointment is the owners
manual.  >

The manual was not ready for shipping when the Artista's left the factory.
So, there should be a voucher for a free manual in your empty binder or
somewhere in box. If you didn't get one, tell your dealer. The pamphlet you
received is only a preliminary manual with the "quick and dirty" basics.

Donna  
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Subject: Re: Stitch Quality of 180
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:41:55 -0600

> I just got my new 180 yesterday. I also subscribed to the list yesterday.
I 
> would like to ask any of you who have the 180 to stitch out some of the
little 
> animals. I have been putting my machine through its paces and am finding
that 
> the decorative stitches are not all stitching out without distortion. I
had a 
> 1630 before and some of those stitches never were right. I want to make
sure 
> this machine is working. I have 30 days to return it. I probably wont use
all 
> those stitches but I want them all to work for the price of this machine
they 
> should. If it is a simple adjustment then no problem. Any input would be 
> greatly appreciated.

Vickie,

Sounds like your dealer needs to balance your machine.  This is done in
about 5 min in the shop, my dealer did this on the spot before I brought
mine home.  I sewed out the bear and his tummy did not meet so I pointed
this out to my dealer and he fixed it on the spot.  The 1630 has a dial on
the side to do this, but your dealer has to do it on the 180.  (It may be
possible for us to do it ourselves, but I haven't gotten that far yet)   In
any event, this is a very minor thing, don't sweat it.  Merry Christmas!

lana, 
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:14:45 -0500
Subject: paper piecing

"Quilter's Newsletter - Jan/Feb98" has a article by Carol Doak for some
neat stars and they mention several books on paper piecing:
"Easy Mix & Match Machine Paper Piecing" and "Show Me How to Paper
Piece" that are available from That Patchwork Place 1-800-426-3126.
The trick is to use a copier that is accurate!  You need to be able to
think in reverse.
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 07:01:14 -0800
Subject: Re: "New" 1230 Bernina

Congratulations on your new machine!
I think you need to order the book through your local Bernina Dealer. 
My dealer keeps several copies of older books in stock.  We have a lot
of people come in for 830 and 730 books even so getting a new one
shouldn't be a problem.  Don't worrry about using a magnetic
pincushion.  You shouldn't use one around computers and because the 180
has software that can be damaged by them, those owners shouldn't use
them, but machines 1630 and down are safe around them.
Rebecca 
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 06:31:03 -0500
Subject: Re: "Dirty Feet"/Wenol

On where to buy Wenol (which I have always used as a silver and
jewelry polish):  depending on where you live, usually in any store
which has a good selection of metal polishes in it's housewares dept.
sometimes in a well stocked hardware store.  It isn't the cheapest
around so not everyone carries it.  Sometimes in good "kitchen" stores,
and often wherever they sell siverware, the kind people used to be able
to afford to put on their tables, places like jewelry stores.
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 15:35:37 EST
Subject: Re: "New" 1230 Bernina

I have been a 1230 owner for at least 8 years and love it!  I have my manual,
if you don't find one, I could photcopy my manual and send it to you!  It does
have lots of good information in it.  Plus, there are some notes written in
that I put there when I took my guide lessons at the Bernina Dealer's shop
where I bought the machine.

Brenda 

PS  Or feel free to email me about specifics and I will gladly look it
up--(Had trouble finding my manual at first--it was in the case cover that
came with the machine--and I hadn't had it on the machine in over a year!
Forgot where I had put it!  
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:49:01 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Hancock Paducha

I have the following www2.hancocks-paducah.com/hancocks/sampler.html
Good luck.MK
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:25:09 -0500
Subject: Re: New Artista 180 (for Rita)

I can't answer your question about the "lift presser foot" screen with
the embroidery module as I haven't played with mine yet...
But in response to your disappointment with the manual, rest assured
that there is indeed a "real manual" in production (thus the binder),
and you can be sure it will be complete. Unfortunately, it wasn't ready
in time to go out with the machines (along with the cards for the
embroidery mod. and the new feet). I was disappointed in this too- 
I was all set to jump in and sew all my pending projects on the 180, but
am doing some of them on my 930 (would never give it up!), like velvet,
as I have the walking foot for my 930.
As far as stitch/function explanations, have you discovered the help
button? It's the "?", and you touch it first, then the stitch or
function you want to know about, and up comes the info. It by no means
replaces a good manual, but helped to clarify a few mystery stitches and
symbols for me!. Also try (if you haven't) the sewing consultant and
tutorial, as they have lot's of good info. 
I think we have to be patient; I know the first day I found myself
wondering if I'd made a mistake, but now know I didn't. The bright side
is that I was able to figure everything out (and I mean EVERYTHING!)
without a manual, and this good because my dealer isn't offering the
guide class until mid-March. I told him I'll be ready to TEACH it by
then! 

Michele
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 06:30:19 -0500
Subject: Re: New 150

Hello 

I collected my new 150 last Sunday. It is the first Bernina that I have
had. I really would have liked the 180 but my budget wouldn't stretch to
that at the moment but hopefully I will be able to trade up in the not too
distant future. Having said that I am absolutely delighted with my new 150
- - it is soooo easy to use. I have had a good play with it and have tried
everyhting including some freehand embroidery so I am now ready to start my
first project which is a cape for my 7 year old daughter. Once I get all
the utility work (I also have curtains and some blinds to make) done I will
be able to start some real fun projects.
As far as changing the stitches is concerned my dealer does this for free
for life - by the sounds of things I have stuck lucky here. Also he offers
unlimited training also for life. I had a quick demonstration on Sunday and
that was enough to get me started but I will be going for extra tuition on
applique, quilting and free hand embroidery.  I haven't chosen my optional
feet yet so I will just get them as I need them and will chnage stitches as
the need arises - there are so many stitches that I don't think that i will
ever be able to decide on a final set.  I have to admit that the thing 
that impressed me most was the gathering technique using a fine cord - no more
thread breakages.

I don't know who posted the original message but perhaps you would like to
contact me and we can share  experiences as we go along.

BTW I have only just found this group and have subscribed to the normal list. 
Could someone please tell me what the difference is between that and
the digest. I just about died when I signed on the other day and there were
52 messages waiting for me. Apart from that it is great to be among
like minded people.

TTYS Maureen  
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:09:55 EST
Subject: Park Bench Patterns?

Has anyone used these patterns?  I am interested in trying them out, but they
are kind of expensive, so I would appreciate any input, as well as reviews of
specific patterns anyone has tried.

Thanks.

Pam 
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 97 13:17:41
Subject: Re: Bobbins


With the cost of Berninas, I can't see why anyone would chance using a
cheap bobbin, just because it fits.  I know Bernina bobbins are
expensive...I have over 6 dozen of them. 

Linda
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Subject: Clean your Bobbin
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 08:39:15 -0600

While cleaning out your machine, don't forget to clean your bobbin as well.
Couldn't understand why my bobbin stitching looked so bad yesterday, since I
had just cleaned the machine and bobbin hook, then noticed there was bit of
fuzz in the bobbin itself. Instant improvement!

Happy Stitching!
Jean
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:03:02 -0500
Subject: denim quilt

I think your idea is good.  A couple of suggestions.  20" blocks are no
problem as long as you can handle them. 
You might want do a seam between blocks where you simply overlap one
block over the other by about 1/2" and then stitch down both sides of
the overlap.  This would give you only 2 layers of fabric instead of
four.  I would  not use batting.  The denim will be heavy although you
can find lighter weights if you look for it.  If you don't have enough
types of denim (who with teens doesn't have a supply of old broken
jeans?) try the thrift shops. 

You could embellish each block on the machine before sewing the blocks
together.  It would be easier to handle.  I would think flannel would be
fine but a word of caution.  All flannels are not created equal.  It
won't pay to go on the cheap.  Try to find a tightly woven flannel and
prewash it about three times before you use it.  Some flannels shrink a
lot - which is good if you prewash.  Some are so full of synthetics that
they don't shrink nor do they become a 'tight' fabric which will hold up
well.  The fabric shops are more worried about warning you that they are
not flame-retardant.  What you should look for is the flannel that
shirts are made from.  A great plaid would be a good choice.  

I would then tie the quilt every 4-6" with something strong.  Cotton
twine works well and you can put the knots on the top or bottom.  This
quilt will also need a strong binding so be sure to double the binding
when you put it on.  I made a similar one for my daughter this fall and
have three orders from her roommates!  The flannel makes it a real cozy
quilt.  I put flannel on baby blankets also.
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:44:25 -0800
Subject: Used Bernina

Hi Fans,
I am still looking for a used Bernina and would appreciate it if any of
you would Email me if you are selling yours.  I know some of you are
updating.
E mail Judy 
I am a quilter and would prefer a quilter's edition.
Judy

Which models have the knee levers?
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:48:59 EST
Subject: Polar Fleece

In a message dated 97-12-11 09:37:00 EST, you write:

>> whether the polar fleece
 from Hancock's ($6.97 vs. $12.97 elsewhere) is "good" quality.  >>

Polar Fleece is a brand name of fabric made by Malden Mills and as far as I
know the only one worth buying.  My one attempt at sewing on "arctic fleece"
or something like that was a dismal failure!  Stretched and pilled even before
garment finished - never finished it either!
Martha Ann
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 20:01:48 EST
Subject: Re: Denim Quilt

That is a great price on the polartec.  Could you please furnish the address?

Happy Holidays...
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Date:    Thu, 11 Dec 97 11:25 HST
Subject: Re: 180

An ad in today's Honolulu Advertiser had one for sale at $1600
and hardly used (guess that's why they're selling?) - it sounded like
a good buy.  I paid $1200 for my "hardly used" 1230 and ALMOST paid
$1900 for a floor model 1260.  I was surprised to see ANY Bernina
for sale in the paper - think it's pretty rare.
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:49:56 -1000
Subject: Problem with quilting

I made a small pieced wreath wall hanging on my new Activa 140 (supposed
to be just like the 160 except for number of stitches) and I ran into
some perplexing problems I never encountered on my old 807.  The
techniques and problems are:

Trapunto by Machine - I had major problems with the water soluble thread
breaking.  I loosened the needle tension almost to 0, I sewed slowly, I
used a metafil needle - no matter what I did, it kept breaking.  I've
done this technique on the old 807 and never encountered this.

Stippling - I used Sulky gold, metafil needle, changed the needle to one
smaller, played with the needle tension FOREVER and still kept getting
green specks (loops from the green cotton in the bobbin) showing on the
top.  I checked all my books, and did all suggested.  I did reduce the
green "loops" to only occasional appearances, BUT - the gold Sulky showed
on the green back - I didn't want that.  I didn't change the bobbin
tension as nothing I had read said that would help.

Embellishing - I embellished around the wreath again with gold Sulky
using the feather stitch on the outer edge and satin stitch on the inner
circle - no problem.  Now the feed dog is up and the tension is back to
almost normal on top.  No problems with the green bobbin thread coming
thru, BUT the gold Sulky was again on the back!

One good thing with the Activa over the venerable 807 - the electronic
foot pedal meant no heat-up or shut-down!  That was fabulous.  I would
upgrade to the 160 if I could get a good enough trade - the deal I got on
the 140 was very good and enabled me to pay cash (unheard of these days).
 Thought I wouldn't want all the "extras" on the 160 - I really do!

Does anyone have any ideas of what I can do to not have this problem.  I
really like the trapunto by machine w/soluble thread, and I really like
using metallic threads - what can I do to stop the nonsense?  Your
suggestions will be most appreciated.
Aloha from Estelle  
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 07:24:46 -0500
Subject: Carol's Zoo Patterns

I am looking for Carol's Zoo Patterns.  I think that is the name of them.
They are patterns for stuffed animals using only two pattern pieces.  I
know that sounds strange but I saw two of them recently and they were
really adorable.  I would like to purchase some of the patterns but haven't
a clue where to even start looking.

If anyone has any suggestions, please e-mail me directly.  I might miss it
in the digest.  TIA

Betty  
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Subject: BULLETIN! BULLETIN!   Parking Garages
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 97 16:38:01 EST

Hi Fans:  Can you believe this?  I was in two quilt shops today looking for an
elusive fabric I need and both shops were selling the "Jammers" parking garage
that we all talk about from Walmart.  The EXACT  same thing is being 
distributed by Lynn Graves "Little Foot" except for ONE THING!!!!!!!! They are $12.95 instead of 6.95!!  And all advertisement from Jammers is replaced by "Little Foot" ads.  Just thought you'd like to know so that you can stock up before they disappear from Walmart!  
Dennie  
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 02:01:52 -0800
Subject: Superman Cape

>>Laurie (and Harriet, my 1230)  >>

Cute, Laurie!   Mine is Berniece.

Help needed quick!  I'm making (with no pattern to be found) a Superman cape
for my grandson.  I can make the cape but what else is necessary?  I didn't
have boys and aren't up on these things.  I know he wore an eyemask.  What
else?  Did he have anything on his head?  Thanks for any and all answers.
email me

Carol  
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:15:21 -0800
Subject: Re: 1530 Price

The price doesn't seem out of line, although I'm sure others on the list
can tell you of better quotes. To some degree it depends on location.

I just upgraded from a 1020 to a classroom 1530 ($1599 and $500 for the
trade in) and will tell you that there are so many variables with thread
and needle that it's hard to compare stitch quality at the store.  None
of the models in the store, even with the exact same hook, seemed to
stitch as well as the 1020.  Now that I've had the 1530 at home with the
same needle and thread, I'm hard pressed to tell the difference.  If
anything the straight stitch seems better, and maybe the satin stitch is
a little lesser quality.  If you want the added features, I'd just trust
in Bernina's reputation for stitch quality, bargain a little more if
others think you can get a lower price, and go ahead and buy.  I've very
rarely heard someone complain in the difference in stitch quality going
from the 830 or 930 models to the 1530.  Most of the controversy seems
to be with the 1630 and I guess the jury is still out on the new models.

Randall
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:32:50 -0800
Subject: easy projects for kids

I will be devoting a 2 hour cub scout meeting to making Christmas
presents for friends and family in about a week..  I would like ideas
for really easy and quick projects that 10 year old boys would like to
make and the recipients would like to receive and use.

So far I have planned, little sachets that will be made from bridal veil
material or lace filled with poupourri (spelling?) and sew straight
seams with a little ribbon on the end, a polar fleece scarf where they
will cut the "fringe" themselves, maybe a picture frame where they glue
cute little do dads on the outside.

I would like one or two other projects that would be for their Dads or
for a sibling.  I would really appreciate any ideas.  All these projects
have to be completed and wrapped within 2 hours on December 21st. 

I would really appreciate any ideas you have by the 17th so I can plan
and shop for the supplies. thanks in advance for the ideas.

I just love this group. Have been a member for almost a year now. Also I
just bought a 009DCC machine ( I make a lot of knits) and I pick it up
tonight.  Has anyone ever bought this machine for less than $499?  I got
one that had only been used about three times and the lady traded it and
her 1260 in for a 180.
- -- 
Debra 
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:15:51 EST
Subject: Re: Hancock Paducha

Gretchen

You're in luck.  I just happen to have the catalog next to me and the new web
site is- www.Hancocks-Paducah.com.  

The E-Mail is:  handpad@sunsix.infi.net

Hope this helps you out.

Didi 
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:29:21 EST
Subject: Re:  234

To Audrey,

The dealer would only give me $75.OO as a trade-in on a new serger, so I still
have it.   I keep white thread in it and has proven to be quite a convenience.

Sewalot 
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:19:25 -0800
Subject: Re: Hancock Paducha

Bernina wrote:

> 
> I've lost the information on the Hancock's Paducha web site can anyone =
> resend the information
> 

I have a web site that has several of my favorite mail order sites on it and 
Hancocks is one of these.  The url address is:  
http://www.LaTech.edu/~sld/mailoder.html

Kay D 
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Subject:  Bernette 009DCC
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 22:41:54 -0800

Can anyone tell me what the going price for the Bernette 009DCC
Cover/Chain stitch machine is now? Also what do you think a good
price would be for a used one? TIA

Glennie 
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:05:18 EST
Subject: Re: Delimma

Cigarette smoke odor can be removed by putting your fabric in a box with a
home made sachet of charcoal granules from the aquarium store. Charcoal is a
natural odor remover.I make a bag from a loose weave fabric and fill it with
the charcoal granules, place them in a large plastic box together and the
fabric seems much better after a day or two. Fresh air usually works well
too.Also an open container of baking soda will absorb odor, just like in the
refrigerator.
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:45:28 -0700
Subject: Re: Metalic thread accomodations???

At 08:43 PM 12/11/97 -0500, you wrote:

>I saw someone with a vest that had Christmas trees appliqued on it
>with gold metalic thread.  Then there were a couple of decorative
>stitches sewn across the bottom tier of the tree - like a garland
>trim.  One was a series of stars or flowers and the other was a
>scallop.  I think both of these decorative stitches are on most
>Bernina machines.  She said her sister had made it - and remarked
>that sewing with metallic thread required SEVERAL adjustments to
>ones machines.  I suspect it needs a special needle - but what
>else would I need to do?  She thought it might need bobbin case
>tension adjustment - which makes me think I should buy an extra
>bobbin case so I don't make changes for my normal sewing.  Does
>someone have a "to do" list for this type of sewing?  I'd love
>to try what she did on the vest - on the front of a t-shirt or
>sweat shirt.


Being the Christmas season, I have been doing a lot of sewing with metallic
thread (using my 1260) and I have had NO trouble with breaking thread.
Sews like a dream.  I use a metalfil (metafil?!?!?!?) needle, use the extra
thread guide on the handle and go for it at top speed.  I am using a lot of
Sulky metallic thread and finding it good quality.   I do find that using
tearaway stabilizer really helps.

On another note - what is "hollographic thread" which some of you have
mentioned, who makes it and where do I get me some???

Kathryn who is running out of sewing days before Christmas - YIKES!
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Subject: Bernina feet for sale
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:07:27 -0500

I have the following Bernina feet for sale: #5, #37, and walking foot for
1630. 
If interested contact me privately.	 
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:06:32 -0800
Subject: Re: Christmas Gifts

You can fill the hot pads with bird seed that has a few drops of
cinnamon oil mixed with it. There are many different scents you can find
in the oils, which are sold at gift shops or craft stores. Since the
seed is covered with fabric, it does not have to be decorative with
cinnamon sticks and other expensive
ingredients.                                                                  
                                       
Sandy
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:37:26 +0000
Subject: Re: Dilemma

Well, that is a dilemma...
My in-laws were heavy smokers and passed away over 10 years ago, the
crochet items that my dearDMIL made took literally years to eradicate the
stench of tobacco.  As a smoker she COULD NOT smell this odor, your fellow
"swappers" carry that odor around with them and everything in their house
is permeated.  Unless you really can not bring yourself to mention this, at
the beginning of the next swap-set the standards, try rinsing each piece by
hand in a small bowl of soapy water.  Rinse and lay them out on a terry
cloth towel and let them air dry.  Telling the "swappers" or washing the
smallest pieces by hand sounds to me like the two alternatives.  Good luck....
P.S. unlike you I do step up on the soap box and smoking is one that I
visit A LOT.  If you have ever seen ANYONE suffer from the effects....need
I say more?
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:17:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Delimma

One good way that I have found to remove smoke smells is to put said item
into a plastic garbage bag with a cake of Safeguard soap for a day or 2..
it has done the trick with clothes that I didn't want to get cleaned right
away when I had been in a smokey place.


Diane  
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Subject: Re: 170 Help!!!!
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:55:46 EST

>Subject: 170 Help!!!!
>
>Well, I picked up my 170 today, really excited, couldn't wait to get 
>it
>home. I had to teach a four hour doll class before I could actually 
>come
>home, however, so I kept my excitement in check.
>
>Now I'm home and I find that the machine does not come with a real 
>manual
>(not yet). Nice vouchers for the manual, and the video, and a free 
>upgrade
>(I don't even know to what, yet), but for a person who didn't even 
>have a
>knee lifter before, I don't know how to use this machine! And I have 
>at
>least three projects in progress.
>
>Now, do I have to wait for the lesson at my dealer or is there some 
>way to
>quick start this machine? I can always pull out my 910 or my 
>Featherweight,
>but I've been waiting to use the new toy! Advice????


Abby -- did your dealer just send you out the door with the machine in a
box!!

I work for a Bernina dealer and when we sell a machine (any model) we sit
down with the customer and show all the basics of the machine before the
customer leaves the store.  We also encourage customers to call with any
questions they may have.  Hopefully you'll be able to do this.

Congratulations on your new 170!

Becky  
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 21:40:57 EST
Subject: Re: Delimma

Try hanging them outside on a clothes line for a few hours.  It may take away
some, if not all of the oder.  Hope it helps.

Didi 
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Subject: Re: Artista 180
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:51:30 -0600

Just thought I'd add the same great thoughts that Donna Williamson had on
this machine.  I've had mine since the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and I
absolutely love everything about it so far!!!  :D

I've done all kinds of mending, free motion, used different types of threads
and it just takes it all in stride and does a great job.  I really love the
automatic tension, so far it works like a dream.

The embroidery unit is truly amazing.  The fact that you can resize any
design and have it retain its stitch density is truly amazing!!

Just my .02,

Patti 
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:24:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 12/8/97

Hi Jerry Sue,

One of my favorite paper piecing books is" Victorian Quilt Block Designs"
Designs by Linda Hampton Schiffer. It is from the Jodie Davis Needle Arts
School.
It is great for having a good varied of blocks but then shows different
layouts
and even quilts made up with the blocks................great fun and
hours of just good looking and planning.  It is a hard back I bought 
at G-Street on my semiannual Pilgrimage there.  ( My sister lives
20 minutes away and swears that is why I come visit so regularly)

Hope you get a chance to see it.
Kim  
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:29:30 EST
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 12/9/97

In a message dated 97-12-11 04:44:23 EST,    writes:

 
 I have been meaning to ask if any of you out there know whether the polar
fleece
 from Hancock's ($6.97 vs. $12.97 elsewhere) is "good" quality. 
 Hancock's is our only fabric store, per se, here in our little podunk
 town.  The bolts, many times, don't have any printing on them, however,
 Thursday they had several bolts that has the name "Rainbow" on the
 ends.  I like to patronize my Bernina/fabric dealer's store but $5 per
 yard would be quite a contribution unless the fabric actually is THAT
 much better.  (Besides its 60+ miles to my dealer's store.)  I would
 like any and all opinions.  
 - ------ >>

I have purchased quite a few pieces of polar fleece from Minnesota (same as
Hancock's), some of which weren't even on bolts and I have not had any
problems with any of them.  There are different thickness, though, so make
sure you have the weight you want.  

Debby  
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:51:50 -0500
Subject: Kenneth King Book

Does anyone know where I mail order the book by Kenneth King on Couture
Sewing?
Thanks
Cathy
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:17:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Delimma

One good way that I have found to remove smoke smells is to put said item
into a plastic garbage bag with a cake of Safeguard soap for a day or 2..
it has done the trick with clothes that I didn't want to get cleaned right
away when I had been in a smokey place.


Diane 
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:53:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: 1230-1260 Prices

At 08:13 PM 12/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>How much should a used 1230 or 1260 cost? Also does anyone know where I
>can find a 009DCC Coverstitch/chainstitch machine for less than $500.
>
>-- 
>Debra  

For sometime I have seen conversation about cover stitch. What is it? Do
you use a serger to get the stitch 
TIA from MaryKay after our 1st winter
storm
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:22:08 +0000 (EST)
Subject: Remove Smoke odor

You have a couple of choices that are fairly simple first part for all is
the same:

1) Place the fabric pieces in a large paper bag that is on its side (
opening at side instead of the top.  if you layer pieces use your strainer
or bakers racks so that air can circulate around and through all piece.

THEN

2) Add a saucer (or similar container) with 

choice of :  vinegar

or	baking soda

or	eucalyptus leaves (or oil)

or 	air freshener product such as air wick

3)  Let sit for a few days

4)  Remove fresh smelling fabric.

Kathy  
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:26:27 EST
Subject: Re: 170 Help!!!!

Abby, I think that machine is run by a touch screen.  Just try playing around
with it for a little while. And call the dealer, maybe they can give you some
information over the phone to jump start you.  Have a happy New Year!
ellen
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:17:27 MDT
Subject: Re: Dilemma

How about soaking them in a vinegar solution?

Judy 
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 19:25:12 +0000
Subject: difficult buttonholes

I recently upgraded to a Bernina 1630.  I am having problems with 
buttonholes on garments made with heavy fabric -  polar fleece and 
wool.  I have tried using stabilizer under the items, widening the 
length and width of the buttonhole, both the automatic and manual 
buttonhole feet, and praying.  All to no avail!  The center seam and 
edge keeps the feeddog from moving the fabric.  Please e-mail to 
jconway@snet.com with any suggestions for the completion of these 
Christmas projects. 

Thanks in advance 
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:08:12 -0800
Subject: Re: Dilemma

Dear anonymous,
Some  individuals have a very keenly developed sense of smell and any
fowl odor(including cigarette smoke)can be nauseating....I am one of
those as well...!
Years ago when I still had my dog and she would get "skunked" I would
spray her with a Glade deodorizer, it worked better then any other
remedy I'd tried.With INANIMATE objects such as fabrics I would put them
in a plastic bag generously spray deodorizer inside the bag,tie it up
and leave overnight.Hope this helps.Elly 
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 08:17:43 -0600
Subject: Re: Nursing Nightgowns=

When I was nursing my babies, I discovered that I preferred a nightgown
with a long center front opening that buttoned. The nursing gowns with the
side slits were harder to use, and I kept falling out on one side or the
other.

Kim
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 08:06:27 +0100
Subject: Re: Dilemma

My answer for getting rid of smoke in fabric is Zout which you can get at
your local Bernina Dealers sometimes or you can order it from Nancy's
Notions.  This product goes with every baby shower gift because it works to
well on stains that will become a part of the new child's life!
Martha  
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 08:37:27 EST
Subject: Re: 170 Help!!!!

Don't panic, the manual eventhough skimpy has most of the information you
need.
First, the purple button with the straight stitch and zigzag by it is the
button for your practical or basic sewing stitches.  The purple button with
the curvy line or something that looks like a serpentine stitch is the button
for the decorative stitches.
The purple button with the little quilt by it is the button for quilting
stitches.  The purple button with the buttonhole next to is for buttonholes. 

The first white button below the purple button is the needle up and needle
down button.

Most of the other functions such as miror imaging and pattern begin are on the
toolbar kind of thing at the bottom of the screen.  The purple buttons the
arrows that point <- or -> move the selections on the bottom of the screen.

The smart button just saves the last active stitch.  

Progaming your machine to your type of sewing can be done at the class.

Hope this helps I'm in the same boat just picked up my 180.

Natalie
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 06:34:15 -0500
Subject: New Embroidery Machine

Message text written by Bernina

>Maybe the dealer didn't go to the
classes Bernina gave for their dealers?>

I know that here in the UK the dealers are only allowed to sell the 180 if
they have been to the classes.

Maureen xx
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 03:03:49 EST
Subject: Re: Metalic thread accomodations???

In a message dated 97-12-12 20:10:40 EST, you write:

>> 
 I saw someone with a vest that had Christmas trees appliqued on it
 with gold metalic thread.  Then there were a couple of decorative
 stitches sewn across the bottom tier of the tree - like a garland
 trim.  One was a series of stars or flowers and the other was a
 scallop.  I think both of these decorative stitches are on most
 Bernina machines.  She said her sister had made it - and remarked
 that sewing with metallic thread required SEVERAL adjustments to
 ones machines.  I suspect it needs a special needle - but what
 else would I need to do?  She thought it might need bobbin case
 tension adjustment - which makes me think I should buy an extra
 bobbin case so I don't make changes for my normal sewing.  Does
 someone have a "to do" list for this type of sewing?  I'd love
 to try what she did on the vest - on the front of a t-shirt or
 sweat shirt.>>

When I sew with metalic threads, I loosen my top tension, use a wide eyed
needle that is designed for Metalics--available at my Bernina dealer, and
thread the eye of the bobbin case.  I don't make any bobbin adjustments.  And
I sew at a slower speed than I normally would.

Brenda


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